IDW Publishing Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #39 Incentive Cover by Pitre-Durocher
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Posted by Madeus Prime on April 4th, 2015 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by Dead Metal on April 4th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
I seriously, can't wait for this to finally come out and answer some more questions.
What's Tarn's deal, how will the Brainstorm situation be dealt with, will Rodimus get a new Rodpod?
Posted by Shuttershock on April 4th, 2015 @ 1:59pm CDT
Posted by Syn_13 on April 4th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
Awesome cover, by the way.
Posted by ArmadaPrime on April 4th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Ohhhhh, I want that in a poster...
Seconded
(also, I love how sassily Helex's extra arms are folded)
Syn_13 wrote:I think Skids is a good candidate to being the former Vos. Firstly he was Special Ops working for Prowl. Secondly, he used the Binary gun to bury memories that Chromedome told him weren't worth bringing back (Empyrean suite was also mentioned), and he clearly has a dark past. Thirdly, it was mentioned at Megatron's trial that Vos was a big guy with hooks for hands. Although Skids isn't huge, he could've altered his body (something demonstrated before by Roberts with Senator Momus' killer in Shadowplay), and he also has hooks in his hands. Fourthly, it was mentioned that he went missing for ages, and I'm not sure if he was even seen for a majority of the war. He could've spent some of this time, particularly around the time of Last Stand of the Wreckers, as the DJD mole, only to return once the war had ended, and then being sent of the Luna 1 mission with Getaway.
That would actually make a lot of sense. Plus, I'm fairly sure that Crosscut, who of course resembles Skids, was apparently often mistaken from one of the DJD- though that may have been the Decepticon Crosscut that I believe is in LSOTW, I'm not sure.
Then again, the bit about the Empryean suite being in Skids' head (along with other horrific memories) could just mean he bore witness to Tarn's work, or maybe even was nearly a victim of his once.
However, I've been thinking myself. Whilst I totally subscribe to the theory of Tarn being Roller, having originally joined the 'cons after having been left to die when Pax's crew all had their memories of the time-travellers wiped, I suspect Agent 113 to be Vos. I've been toying with the idea that Agent 113 doesnt actually know that they're a spy, and hence can bring themselves to be so sadistic, and realised that if it were Vos that could work. Vos was allied with Megatron since before the war, there's an image of Megatron firing Vos in supposedly one of the shots that started the Decepticon uprising, so he was probably a founding member of the DJD. My thoughts are that at one stage he was captured and, through mnemosurgery and shadowplay, "convinced"(*ahem*) to act as the autobot's agent. Obviously they would need to wipe his mind of the experience, so the cons couldn't find him out, but then surely he wouldn't know any of the stuff about shooting through the faction symbol's eye. However, Vos doesn't fire a gun, he turns into one. What if they somehow built the whole eye-shooting thing into his targeting system, so he wouldn't even have to be able to remember it?
Plus, maybe all the tampering and could explain why he can only really speak in old cybertronian-
mnemosurgery is messy business and it seems like it would be easy to accidentally cause something like that.
EDIT: This came out a lot more ramble-y than I expected, I can only apologise
Posted by Dead Metal on April 4th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CDT
And maybe we won't find out who Agent 113 is till the very end of MTMTE, where it's then revealed it was actually Swerve, and his uselessness as a fighter is all a brandnew personality to make him forget the horrors.
Posted by Demonology7789 on April 4th, 2015 @ 3:37pm CDT
Posted by padfoo on April 4th, 2015 @ 6:29pm CDT
Syn_13 wrote:I'm sorry but you cannot convince me that Tarn is not Roller. You can clearly see the exact shape of Roller's head under that mask. Compare it to any of the images of Roller (particularly his last appearance in the past before he vanishes) and it's really obvious.
Awesome cover, by the way.
What? Really?
Posted by Syn_13 on April 4th, 2015 @ 6:58pm CDT
padfoo wrote:Syn_13 wrote:I'm sorry but you cannot convince me that Tarn is not Roller. You can clearly see the exact shape of Roller's head under that mask. Compare it to any of the images of Roller (particularly his last appearance in the past before he vanishes) and it's really obvious.
Awesome cover, by the way.
What? Really?
There certainly are a lot of similarities.
EDIT: You know what? The more I look at it, the more I'm willing to bet Roberts is just messing around with us though.
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on April 4th, 2015 @ 8:40pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 5th, 2015 @ 3:28am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:That's an awesome image, I like the WW2 propaganda vibe I'm getting from this.
Ah, close historical reference, but not quite!
You'll see what I mean with the full preview and the issue.
There are some really good comments in here so far that I cannot respond to as I'd like as I'm preparing the review. But YES GOOD COMMENTS GOOD
Posted by ArmadaPrime on April 5th, 2015 @ 5:55am CDT
Va'al wrote:There are some really good comments in here so far that I cannot respond to as I'd like as I'm preparing the review. But YES GOOD COMMENTS GOOD
Ooh, you tease
Seriously though, hyped for this. I love all the fan-theories and speculation, and who incites it better than the DJD?
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on April 5th, 2015 @ 8:11am CDT
Posted by MrBlack on April 6th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Syn_13 wrote:padfoo wrote:Syn_13 wrote:I'm sorry but you cannot convince me that Tarn is not Roller. You can clearly see the exact shape of Roller's head under that mask. Compare it to any of the images of Roller (particularly his last appearance in the past before he vanishes) and it's really obvious.
Awesome cover, by the way.
What? Really?
There certainly are a lot of similarities.
EDIT: You know what? The more I look at it, the more I'm willing to bet Roberts is just messing around with us though.
Who also looks vaguely like Heretech (minus his inverted Matrix hat)...
...who may also be Roller and/or Tarn.
Who knows at this point? He may take off his mask and turn out to be Bumblebee merged with Shockwave, spit out back in time after being sucked into the Dead Universe and rescued by a young Megatron.
Posted by Va'al on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:43am CDT
NOTE: The solicit below lists Alex Milne as interior artist, as well as cover - we know this is not correct, as Hayato Sakamoto is taking over art duties for the issue, as reported here. The cover, however, is still by Milne.
Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #39—Return of the Decepticon Justice Division
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
RETURN OF THE D.J.D.! A punishment squad created by MEGATRON to hunt down dissidents, turncoats and cowards—no one believes more passionately in the DECEPTICON cause than the D.J.D. So what happens when they discover their founder has joined the Autobots? (Clue: it’s not pretty.)
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
The long-awaited return of the most dangerous villains in comics history!
If you don’t already know the names Tarn, Kaon, Tesarus, Helex, and Vos—you better learn ’em before they get you!
Variant Cover by Transformers game and toy artist Sara Pitre-Durocher!
Posted by MrBlack on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:54am CDT
Posted by RevTibe on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:56am CDT
Neat to see the DJD in their downtime.
Posted by squeegeewing on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:00pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:Oh Primus, they have a mascot...
squeegeewing wrote:They have a mom...I love you, IDW!
Much much more than that.
(Think Winry from Full Metal Alchemist, for example!)
Posted by ScottyP on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by Moody magpie on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:15pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:28pm CDT
Posted by Syn_13 on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:49pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Best. Preview. Ever.
Hah! I love it!
Posted by Madeus Prime on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by Dead Metal on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:41pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Something tells me Vos locked himself in his room to listen to his Tears for Fears albums.
"Something happens, and I'm head over wheels..."
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:51pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Something tells me Vos locked himself in his room to listen to his Tears for Fears albums.
"Something happens, and I'm head over wheels..."
Ah, don't take my spark, don't break my spark, Don't, don't, don't throw it away
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:02pm CDT
I like it.
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:02pm CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:04pm CDT
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by Ginrai Minor on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
please and thank you
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:If Roberts doesn't use this as Vos' theme song, I'll be very sad.
I think Vos was somewhere here in Portland during Dark Cybertron when they were playing live
Posted by Va'al on April 6th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:wait wait wait.
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
All will be explained.
Posted by Deadput on April 6th, 2015 @ 3:16pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:wait wait wait.
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
Maybe she is an Ammonite since they have females
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ammonite
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Windshear
Posted by Deadput on April 6th, 2015 @ 3:19pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:wait wait wait.
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
All will be explained.
Wrong place to ask this but is it possible to change my username?
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 3:41pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:wait wait wait.
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
All will be explained.
Wrong place to ask this but is it possible to change my username?
C-c-c-combo breaker!!
Posted by dreadwing95 on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:12pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:24pm CDT
dreadwing95 wrote:who is that guy on the cover? he looks awesome
Deathsaurus
Posted by Va'al on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:38pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:wait wait wait.
She??? How long has Nickel been with the DJD? Did they pick her up from Caminus or something because I thought Cybertronians were unfamiliar with gender
All will be explained.
Wrong place to ask this but is it possible to change my username?
Very wrong place indeed. Please keep to appropriate channels for this type of request - and go ask Burn. Nicely.
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:45pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:who is that guy on the cover? he looks awesome
Deathsaurus
I do hope they come up with a good name for him. Something that doesn't sound so awkward but fits him. (Never liked deathsaurus or Dezarus, or whatever)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:who is that guy on the cover? he looks awesome
Deathsaurus
I do hope they come up with a good name for him. Something that doesn't sound so awkward but fits him. (Never liked deathsaurus or Dezarus, or whatever)
How about Escro?
Posted by dreadwing95 on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:who is that guy on the cover? he looks awesome
Deathsaurus
thought it looked like him but wasnt quite sure
Posted by Syn_13 on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:55pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:who is that guy on the cover? he looks awesome
Deathsaurus
I do hope they come up with a good name for him. Something that doesn't sound so awkward but fits him. (Never liked deathsaurus or Dezarus, or whatever)
I'm pretty sure he's going to still be called Deathsaurus. Mainly because I'm sure at the end of #38 they mention him, along with his pic, for #39.
Posted by ctrlFrequency on April 6th, 2015 @ 4:57pm CDT
I don't want the DJD humanized, I especially don't want them having a mom. For many reasons, especially a feminist point of view, but I won't go there. Too hot of a topic.
The big thing is, why do we have to turn the Decepticons into pussy cats?
I do feel that it is important to make the Decepticons less 1 dimensional... bad because they're the bad guys. I like my bad guys to have a reason for it beyond "Because I am bad."
Depth, personality, reason, yes. Cutesy... it spoils the appeal of the DJD (I probably wouldn't even think twice about it if it was any other Decepticons). The DJD are monsters, why can't they remain that way? Why does everything scary (some of us like things scary) have to become Tumblr girl squee-fest material?
I wanted more depth to the DJD,but I was thinking more... I dunno, reason they were chosen, what personality/life event quirk brought them to where they are now. Not cookies, goodnight kisses, and motherly scolding.
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 5:24pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:I guess I'll have to be the one voice of dissent here. I can't even express my disappointment on this.
I don't want the DJD humanized, I especially don't want them having a mom. For many reasons, especially a feminist point of view, but I won't go there. Too hot of a topic.
The big thing is, why do we have to turn the Decepticons into pussy cats?
I do feel that it is important to make the Decepticons less 1 dimensional... bad because they're the bad guys. I like my bad guys to have a reason for it beyond "Because I am bad."
Depth, personality, reason, yes. Cutesy... it spoils the appeal of the DJD (I probably wouldn't even think twice about it if it was any other Decepticons). The DJD are monsters, why can't they remain that way? Why does everything scary (some of us like things scary) have to become Tumblr girl squee-fest material?
I wanted more depth to the DJD,but I was thinking more... I dunno, reason they were chosen, what personality/life event quirk brought them to where they are now. Not cookies, goodnight kisses, and motherly scolding.
Yeah, this.
I agree with you. Don't really like it too much. They are horrifically brutal, they should have remained such. after all, removing Megsatron as a villian left a vacuum and I was hoping the djd would fill it. I think this is a misstep.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 6th, 2015 @ 5:24pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:I guess I'll have to be the one voice of dissent here. I can't even express my disappointment on this.
I don't want the DJD humanized, I especially don't want them having a mom. For many reasons, especially a feminist point of view, but I won't go there. Too hot of a topic.
The big thing is, why do we have to turn the Decepticons into pussy cats?
I do feel that it is important to make the Decepticons less 1 dimensional... bad because they're the bad guys. I like my bad guys to have a reason for it beyond "Because I am bad."
Depth, personality, reason, yes. Cutesy... it spoils the appeal of the DJD (I probably wouldn't even think twice about it if it was any other Decepticons). The DJD are monsters, why can't they remain that way? Why does everything scary (some of us like things scary) have to become Tumblr girl squee-fest material?
I wanted more depth to the DJD,but I was thinking more... I dunno, reason they were chosen, what personality/life event quirk brought them to where they are now. Not cookies, goodnight kisses, and motherly scolding.
I think the problem is after their first appearance, and the alternate probability of them shown in the slaughter-hause; there's no way to develop them further without making them look more like wrestling heels, without changing the tone. Based on their few issues alone, one would think they've been booked to be the most OP transformers ever; to the point of why isn't the next issue, "DJD goes on rampage, Kills everyone everywhere". If they did something that was just this is how american psycho #1 got his/her job, it would get boring, especially considering the DJD haven't been shown before this point to have anymore character than "I love blood and violence! I've got a boner for murder!".
Posted by Optimizzy on April 6th, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:I guess I'll have to be the one voice of dissent here. I can't even express my disappointment on this.
I don't want the DJD humanized, I especially don't want them having a mom. For many reasons, especially a feminist point of view, but I won't go there. Too hot of a topic.
The big thing is, why do we have to turn the Decepticons into pussy cats?
I do feel that it is important to make the Decepticons less 1 dimensional... bad because they're the bad guys. I like my bad guys to have a reason for it beyond "Because I am bad."
Depth, personality, reason, yes. Cutesy... it spoils the appeal of the DJD (I probably wouldn't even think twice about it if it was any other Decepticons). The DJD are monsters, why can't they remain that way? Why does everything scary (some of us like things scary) have to become Tumblr girl squee-fest material?
I wanted more depth to the DJD,but I was thinking more... I dunno, reason they were chosen, what personality/life event quirk brought them to where they are now. Not cookies, goodnight kisses, and motherly scolding.
I think the problem is after their first appearance, and the alternate probability of them shown in the slaughter-hause; there's no way to develop them further without making them look more like wrestling heels, without changing the tone. Based on their few issues alone, one would think they've been booked to be the most OP transformers ever; to the point of why isn't the next issue, "DJD goes on rampage, Kills everyone everywhere". If they did something that was just this is how american psycho #1 got his/her job, it would get boring, especially considering the DJD haven't been shown before this point to have anymore character than "I love blood and violence! I've got a boner for murder!".
I think there are ways to preserve those fearsome rep, without making them cute. The religious aspect is good. The idea that they may not be happy with what they do but so it anyway could be better explored. The whole mom thing though just degrades it a bit.