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How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

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Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009 12:46PM CDT

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Hey everyone, (anyone with any experience modding/fixing a toy probably doesn't need to read through this, just make sure you end up swapping both sets of parts, not just the knee).

If you're like me, you've bought RotF Superion and remembered what a huge piece of crap the Stormjet (Silverbolt in this instance) is.

You might have noticed that his knees in robot mode bend the wrong way entirely and that he doesn't quite transform properly.

That's because he is wonderfully and wrongly assembled every time someone goes about making a batch of this mold.

This fix is easy, you will need a small screwdriver, Phillips head preferably and some work space.

The problem:
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes
Nope, that ain't right...

First step: Disassemble

Now, you're going to take the legs apart. Be sure to keep everything in order and leave those black hip joints (in yellow circles) in place. They have springs in them you don't want to lose and we'll get back to them later.
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

Second step: correct the lower leg parts


You will separate them like so
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

the piece pulls out of the leg via a pin you can simply slip out, like so
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

Third step: Swap knee joints

How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

Forth step: Reassemble lower legs



Fifth step: Swap hips

You will need to use care when swapping the front part of the hip to the other side. It's easy, but it's a hassle if you let those little springs pop
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

Insert the lower leg portions in and close up the hip pieces. Did you do it right? Yours will look like this if you did:

How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

You're done. Easy eh?

So what does this little fix get you?

Rescued articulation:
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes

A proper alt mode:
How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes
Credit(s): Counterpunch, Overcracker

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Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931375)
Posted by Flashwave on June 3rd, 2009 @ 1:36pm CDT
Great, but is there a fix for the saggy jet front though?
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931384)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 1:43pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Didn't I post this a few weeks ago? Oh wait I did, here:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52620&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=superion


Well, we're out of cookies, so no treat for you.

At any rate, now that I've done it, it's awesome.

This topic comes up about once a year or every time the Stormjet mold hits the shelf, so really the fact that either of us have posted this is nothing special.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931386)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 1:44pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Great, but is there a fix for the saggy jet front though?


Hrm? What do you mean?
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931396)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 2:00pm CDT
He's probably talking about the peg that is too small to hold the nose of the jet to the bottom of the torso. It causes him to hunch over at if the peg slips out.

what do those little springs in there do?
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931400)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 3rd, 2009 @ 2:07pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:He's probably talking about the peg that is too small to hold the nose of the jet to the bottom of the torso. It causes him to hunch over at if the peg slips out.

what do those little springs in there do?

They hold the ratchet joint in the position you put it into.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931403)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 2:12pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:He's probably talking about the peg that is too small to hold the nose of the jet to the bottom of the torso. It causes him to hunch over at if the peg slips out.

what do those little springs in there do?


Ah, then no.

The little springs put pressure on the ratcheting joints to support him in combined mode.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931431)
Posted by TheMuffin on June 3rd, 2009 @ 2:59pm CDT
:( I want a Superion too.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931445)
Posted by Starscream6 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 3:33pm CDT
Excellent! i love doing these little fixes, now i just need to find this bad boy. got the Fansproject add on kit on preorder but wont do me much good till my local targets stock him.

anyone in the fort wayne IN area that has seen him or know when he will be released PM me, Thanks!!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931448)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 3:38pm CDT
Anyone looking for him, just go to Target with the DCPI number: 087-06-0146

They'll bring him to the front counter for you.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931449)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 3:40pm CDT
Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931458)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 3:54pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.


Every version of the Stormjet mold ever made has had this issue.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931471)
Posted by Overcracker on June 3rd, 2009 @ 4:13pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.


Every version of the Stormjet mold ever made has had this issue.


Nope, not every version.

The Japanese Superlink version, Afterburner, was actually assembled correctly. If the pictures in the Gallery are anything to go by:
Image

Thigh pegs visible on the outside of the legs.

but yeah any of the American releases seem to have the problem.

Damn exclusives, I was hoping they'd make it down here in another store.
May have to give in and buy them from BBTS even though they are slightly more expensive there.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931478)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 4:27pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.


Every version of the Stormjet mold ever made has had this issue.


Nope, not every version.

The Japanese Superlink version, Afterburner, was actually assembled correctly. If the pictures in the Gallery are anything to go by:


Since we're playing the petty corrections game, Afterburner came with correctly assembled hips but the knees still fell victim to being swapped, though not at the 100% rate the US version Stormjet had.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931497)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 4:59pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.


Every version of the Stormjet mold ever made has had this issue.


Wow. Not sure if I'm gonna do the fix since I didn't notice the problem the first go around and Energon Superion held together just fine.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931504)
Posted by T-Macksimus on June 3rd, 2009 @ 5:08pm CDT
Lapse Of Reason wrote:Dammit. I los the springs. Suckers popped right off and disappeared.

If you still have yet to find them I would resort to (or at least attempt in an effort to not have a screwed up toy) cannibalizing a click action pen and start snipping the spring. The smaller the pen diameter the better considering the size of those posts. Anybody else with a better or more detailed cheap solution please jump in. I'm part Redneck so I don't always have the precision fixes off the top of my head but I can usually come up with something workable pretty darn fast.
I don't have my Stormjet easily accessible so I can't be more specific on ideas about that spring size.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931512)
Posted by youngku on June 3rd, 2009 @ 5:21pm CDT
Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931523)
Posted by T-Macksimus on June 3rd, 2009 @ 5:43pm CDT
youngku wrote:Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.


Doesn't much matter since nearly every version of Stormjet has the same screw-up. I'll use this info to correct my Energon version. Besides, there are more of them floating around here than people think. Official release dates don't mean diddly. If it gets shipped into a store from the main distribution hub, regardless of how long they are supposed to sit on the stock, most stores are shoving stuff out to keep their stock rooms from becoming overcrowded. Hasbro's threats don't seem to phase the major retailers much.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931551)
Posted by Overcracker on June 3rd, 2009 @ 6:33pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the Universe Superion set have this problem or just the ROTF Target exclusive set? I don't remember the original Stormjet having a problem like this.


Every version of the Stormjet mold ever made has had this issue.


Nope, not every version.

The Japanese Superlink version, Afterburner, was actually assembled correctly. If the pictures in the Gallery are anything to go by:


Since we're playing the petty corrections game, Afterburner came with correctly assembled hips but the knees still fell victim to being swapped, though not at the 100% rate the US version Stormjet had.

Sorry, did not mean to sound petty. And I did say "If the pics are anything to go by".

For those not wanting to do the fix, its simple, just do it in a well lit place on a large table, and separate the thighs carefully.

I had one of the springs fly off to, fortunately I did find it.

I was extra careful with the other leg and the spring did not fly off.

Make sure the Screw driver is a size 0 (zero) Philips screw driver or it won't fit in the lower leg holes. if its to small it will be hard to make it unscrew the screw.

The Thigh screws are easily accessible and you can use pretty much any screw driver.

Ohh and Having functional knees makes a world of difference.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931555)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 6:41pm CDT
youngku wrote:Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.


Then I guess I was dreaming since I've bought four of him in 3 different stores now.

He's out.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931588)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 8:25pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
youngku wrote:Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.


Then I guess I was dreaming since I've bought four of him in 3 different stores now.

He's out.


4? Wow. Somebody loves him some Airialbots.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931595)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 3rd, 2009 @ 8:44pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
youngku wrote:Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.


Then I guess I was dreaming since I've bought four of him in 3 different stores now.

He's out.


4? Wow. Somebody loves him some Airialbots.


Got some friends to hook up with new toys. You know how we do homie. :grin:
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931614)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 9:40pm CDT
Thanks for posting this fix, CP. I fixed both my ROTF and Energon version. It was pretty easy. Can't wait to get the add on set from FansProject.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931633)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2009 @ 10:35pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
youngku wrote:Awesome...now, how many of you out there actually have a ROTF Superion yet? They aren't even released in the US yet.


Then I guess I was dreaming since I've bought four of him in 3 different stores now.

He's out.


4? Wow. Somebody loves him some Airialbots.


Got some friends to hook up with new toys. You know how we do homie. :grin:


Oh fo shizzle my nizzle. Holla at me latrz's
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931648)
Posted by Flashwave on June 3rd, 2009 @ 10:56pm CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:Dammit. I los the springs. Suckers popped right off and disappeared.

If you still have yet to find them I would resort to (or at least attempt in an effort to not have a screwed up toy) cannibalizing a click action pen and start snipping the spring. The smaller the pen diameter the better considering the size of those posts. Anybody else with a better or more detailed cheap solution please jump in. I'm part Redneck so I don't always have the precision fixes off the top of my head but I can usually come up with something workable pretty darn fast.
I don't have my Stormjet easily accessible so I can't be more specific on ideas about that spring size.


*Doesn;t know what the springs look like* If you have a hobby shop near you, and I mean a good one, you might go back to the trains section, and look into the springs used for couplers, probably HO or O scale, I wouldn't go larger, they might be small enough to fit. We model railoaders are not unfamiliar with springs going PWOING!! at the site of a screw driver and fresh air... Take Silverbolt in with you, they can probably hook you up.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931786)
Posted by Cobalt Prime on June 4th, 2009 @ 9:14am CDT
Quick and easy fix, thanks! :grin:
I never realized that there was a mistake in the pieces' assembly, but now that I followed your steps on my Energon Stormjet I can see a vast improvement in what the designers originally intended.
Gonna go get my Energon Superion Maximus now and do the same, since I display one set separate and one set combined.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (931857)
Posted by Flashwave on June 4th, 2009 @ 12:16pm CDT
Okay, so I tried the fix on Energon Stormy, but the legs sdidn't want to seperate right off, and I really didn;t want to push it too hard and break something, like his knee guard. It was acting like they bonded the plastic. ANd yes, I did try a flathead run along the side seams
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (933964)
Posted by zero-kaiser on June 8th, 2009 @ 8:09pm CDT
Picked this guy up today in my local Conways ToyMaster (for all of about £20 to!!) I'll have to perform this mod tomorrow, Storm Jet's (or Silverbolt) leg assembly error is very noticeable right out of the box.. and this is the first version of this mold that I've owned.

Thanks for the guide guys!!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944787)
Posted by FracturedKoi on June 29th, 2009 @ 2:36pm CDT
How in the world, exactly, am I supposed to separate the two pieces of his lower legs? They just won't pry open! Any advice?
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944836)
Posted by Overcracker on June 29th, 2009 @ 3:42pm CDT
Each lower leg has 2 screws that need to be removed.

Once that is done, the leg halves should come apart easily.

The peg into the Knee mechanism so it may be slightly tight. But you shouldn't need too much force to do it.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944845)
Posted by Knock Out on June 29th, 2009 @ 3:54pm CDT
Just grabbed mine today, and applied this fix first thing. Again, MANY THANKS! I now have a superior Superion and a Breakaway that are correct!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944855)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 29th, 2009 @ 4:08pm CDT
Knock Out wrote:Just grabbed mine today, and applied this fix first thing. Again, MANY THANKS! I now have a superior Superion and a Breakaway that are correct!


Excellent!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944862)
Posted by zero-kaiser on June 29th, 2009 @ 4:14pm CDT
Knock Out wrote:Just grabbed mine today, and applied this fix first thing. Again, MANY THANKS! I now have a superior Superion and a Breakaway that are correct!


Seconded.. I eventually got round to fixing my Storm Jet/Silverbolt and the difference is phenominal!! Curious though.. in vehicle mode its almost like the legs are a little big for the space they fit in.. they make the arm/shoulder mounts bow out slightly. Is this just mine or is it a more common problem?

Again.. thank you to Counterpunch and Overcracker for this!

Now to await the upgrade set from FansProjects :P
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944925)
Posted by Brychanus on June 29th, 2009 @ 5:05pm CDT
Well would you look at that... 5 minutes with a tiny screwdriver and I don't hate his robot mode anymore. Thanks for posting this with all the photos!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944930)
Posted by FracturedKoi on June 29th, 2009 @ 5:09pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Each lower leg has 2 screws that need to be removed.

Once that is done, the leg halves should come apart easily.

The peg into the Knee mechanism so it may be slightly tight. But you shouldn't need too much force to do it.


Oh...heh...never even saw those two screws! Thanks for that!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (944985)
Posted by It Is Him on June 29th, 2009 @ 6:17pm CDT
I performed the fix last night. Silverbolt displays great now. Thanks CP.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (945845)
Posted by thedistinctroom on June 30th, 2009 @ 8:24pm CDT
The lower legs are so hard to separate from the pins. I give up.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (945867)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 30th, 2009 @ 8:56pm CDT
thedistinctroom wrote:The lower legs are so hard to separate from the pins. I give up.


You aren't unscrewing the leg halves and then separating.

Look close, each leg has two screws in it.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (946901)
Posted by Prime Evil on July 2nd, 2009 @ 9:56am CDT
I got my ROTF Superion in the mail from target yesterday. Wow, the colors scheme on those guys are soo awesome. Kinda makes me want to keep'em in individual bot modes when the limbs do come int. Anywho, I'll be doing this mod tonite.

Thanks CP, you daffy bastard you!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (947249)
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 2nd, 2009 @ 8:43pm CDT
Hey bud, thanks for this. I'd kinda forgotten how to go about the fix and I was avoiding doing it. Just finished and man, I still don't care for this guy lol. On the upside, the decos on them are all pretty neat and the add-on is coming soon. Now if only there was room in my case for improved Superion and eventually Bruticus. :lol:
:BOT:
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (947602)
Posted by thedistinctroom on July 3rd, 2009 @ 11:45am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:The lower legs are so hard to separate from the pins. I give up.


You aren't unscrewing the leg halves and then separating.

Look close, each leg has two screws in it.


Ahh ha! Thanks Counterpunch! Got it to work!

:BOT2:
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (947643)
Posted by Autoclot on July 3rd, 2009 @ 1:27pm CDT
Thanks for this... I tried it when it was first posted a couple of weeks ago, but completely missed the little screws in the back of the leg, and kept trying to separate the halves with a craft knife :)

All sorted now, though :)
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (957484)
Posted by Turbobungle on July 18th, 2009 @ 12:44pm CDT
Allo folks. Cheers for this, vast improvement, but did anyone work out a way to fix the stupid waist/nose peg issue? I have my Fansproject kit and it really is the ONLY downer on the whole figure for me right now....
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992281)
Posted by Convotron on September 8th, 2009 @ 4:10pm CDT
I just want to thank CP for this great and easy to follow guide. I just received my own RotF Superion set and the leg fix makes a huge improvement!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992449)
Posted by tom brokaw on September 8th, 2009 @ 6:47pm CDT
Convotron wrote:I just want to thank CP for this great and easy to follow guide. I just received my own RotF Superion set and the leg fix makes a huge improvement!

i thought problem was already fixed by the time it hit the rotf line?.... i have superion, and i didnt really notice anything wrong
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992473)
Posted by shonenfan4 on September 8th, 2009 @ 7:16pm CDT
tom brokaw wrote:
Convotron wrote:I just want to thank CP for this great and easy to follow guide. I just received my own RotF Superion set and the leg fix makes a huge improvement!

i thought problem was already fixed by the time it hit the rotf line?.... i have superion, and i didnt really notice anything wrong


^That. ROTF Superion is standing in my display shelves fine. :grin:
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992509)
Posted by Convotron on September 8th, 2009 @ 7:55pm CDT
shonenfan4 wrote:
tom brokaw wrote:
Convotron wrote:I just want to thank CP for this great and easy to follow guide. I just received my own RotF Superion set and the leg fix makes a huge improvement!

i thought problem was already fixed by the time it hit the rotf line?.... i have superion, and i didnt really notice anything wrong


^That. ROTF Superion is standing in my display shelves fine. :grin:


My RotF Silverbolt came with its legs misassembled(its knees bent forwards and it couldn't transform properly into alt mode) so I followed CP's guide, switched the knee parts, and now his legs bend the right way and transformation to alt mode is flawless.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992519)
Posted by shonenfan4 on September 8th, 2009 @ 8:07pm CDT
Convotron wrote:
shonenfan4 wrote:
tom brokaw wrote:
Convotron wrote:I just want to thank CP for this great and easy to follow guide. I just received my own RotF Superion set and the leg fix makes a huge improvement!

i thought problem was already fixed by the time it hit the rotf line?.... i have superion, and i didnt really notice anything wrong


^That. ROTF Superion is standing in my display shelves fine. :grin:


My RotF Silverbolt came with its legs misassembled(its knees bent forwards and it couldn't transform properly into alt mode) so I followed CP's guide, switched the knee parts, and now his legs bend the right way and transformation to alt mode is flawless.


I guess the problem is like QC problem and is only on a select few batches. :-? Guess I'm lucky with mine.
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992526)
Posted by Convotron on September 8th, 2009 @ 8:14pm CDT
I'm just happy that I didn't get a QC problem involving duplicate limb parts. If it had two left or right knee parts, I'd be pretty upset!
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992527)
Posted by tom brokaw on September 8th, 2009 @ 8:21pm CDT
shonenfan4 wrote:.... I guess the problem is like QC problem and is only on a select few batches. :-? Guess I'm lucky with mine.

ah i see....
Re: How to fix your RotF Superion in under 15 minutes (992528)
Posted by Mkall on September 8th, 2009 @ 8:22pm CDT
tom brokaw wrote:i thought problem was already fixed by the time it hit the rotf line?.... i have superion, and i didnt really notice anything wrong

Try bending Silverbolt's knees. If they bend like a person's should, then maybe they've fixed it in later runs.

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