Hasbro Celebrates Funded Victory Saber by Posting First Painted Prototype Photo
Wednesday, September 29th, 2021 7:53PM CDT
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But we’re not done yet! When we get to 14,000 backers, you’ll be getting the V-Lock Cannon (seen here) as well as the blast effects (not shown). Be sure to stay tuned for the Tier 3 reveal coming soon!
Pre-order and back the Transformers Victory Saber HasLab project for $179.99. This crowdfund project will run until October 10th, 2021.
You can back this here: https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... tory-saber
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 30th, 2021 @ 11:29am CDT
It was kind of neat last night. I was killing time before bed looking at the Haslab listing for Victory Saber and over the course of about 20 seconds and 3 refreshes of the page, I saw the count go up by 6.
Posted by o.supreme on September 30th, 2021 @ 11:50am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on October 1st, 2021 @ 8:23am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:30am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe I'm a little pessimistic here but I wonder what they are going to change to make it cheaper to produce like they did with Unicron.
People are already complaining that this doesn't look MP level so there's that.
Posted by sol magnus on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:35am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe I'm a little pessimistic here but I wonder what they are going to change to make it cheaper to produce like they did with Unicron.
People are already complaining that this doesn't look MP level so there's that.
They're complaining, but it's not a valid complaint. They said it's a Generations scale figure. That's pretty much the end of that for expectations.
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:42am CDT
I am hoping that Victory saber comes in a packaging that homages the original C-328 set. Having a flap held down with magnets (ala Unite Warriors) to see the toy inside would be neat as well. This is just wish fulfillment for me. But anything besides a plain brown box would be nice.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:49am CDT
sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe I'm a little pessimistic here but I wonder what they are going to change to make it cheaper to produce like they did with Unicron.
People are already complaining that this doesn't look MP level so there's that.
They're complaining, but it's not a valid complaint. They said it's a Generations scale figure. That's pretty much the end of that for expectations.
Personally, I don't really expect it to be MP quality since it's not an MP. I can see why people would make the comparisons though since so many of these "early" toy reviewers keep on complaining the standard TFs to the MPs.
I just don't like the bait and switch game Hasbro did previously with Unicron.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:55am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe I'm a little pessimistic here but I wonder what they are going to change to make it cheaper to produce like they did with Unicron.
People are already complaining that this doesn't look MP level so there's that.
They're complaining, but it's not a valid complaint. They said it's a Generations scale figure. That's pretty much the end of that for expectations.
Personally, I don't really expect it to be MP quality since it's not an MP. I can see why people would make the comparisons though since so many of these "early" toy reviewers keep on complaining the standard TFs to the MPs.
I just don't like the bait and switch game Hasbro did previously with Unicron.
I would say expect something to change no matter what and be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't. The thing with any Haslab campaign is that due to the model, we are seeing and making a purchasing decision based on the early prototypes typically made of resin before they make the production molds. What they show at the time of the funding decision is their best guess at how things should be able to look if everything goes according to plan with making the molds and production.
With Unicron, I'm thinking it was the sheer size and number of parts and number of molds to make a single figure that their best guesses were exactly that, guesses. I don't think the brand team has even designed and made something that large/complex in a single shot before. I really don't think it was a matter of them saying, "now that we sucked them in, where can we cut corners" but rather more likely "oh crap, we didn't realize that we can't have more than x different sprues of color y and have to move this from here to here" or something similar. Unicron was bigger than anything they tried before, so a few hiccups didn't surprise me.
The good news is that Victory Saber is well within the design teams wheelhouse in terms of size and complexity, so I would expect fewer changes here post funding than for Unicron.
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:02pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe I'm a little pessimistic here but I wonder what they are going to change to make it cheaper to produce like they did with Unicron.
People are already complaining that this doesn't look MP level so there's that.
They're complaining, but it's not a valid complaint. They said it's a Generations scale figure. That's pretty much the end of that for expectations.
Personally, I don't really expect it to be MP quality since it's not an MP. I can see why people would make the comparisons though since so many of these "early" toy reviewers keep on complaining the standard TFs to the MPs.
I just don't like the bait and switch game Hasbro did previously with Unicron.
I would say expect something to change no matter what and be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't. The thing with any Haslab campaign is that due to the model, we are seeing and making a purchasing decision based on the early prototypes typically made of resin before they make the production molds. What they show at the time of the funding decision is their best guess at how things should be able to look if everything goes according to plan with making the molds and production.
With Unicron, I'm thinking it was the sheer size and number of parts and number of molds to make a single figure that their best guesses were exactly that, guesses. I don't think the brand team has even designed and made something that large/complex in a single shot before. I really don't think it was a matter of them saying, "now that we sucked them in, where can we cut corners" but rather more likely "oh crap, we didn't realize that we can't have more than x different sprues of color y and have to move this from here to here" or something similar. Unicron was bigger than anything they tried before, so a few hiccups didn't surprise me.
The good news is that Victory Saber is well within the design teams wheelhouse in terms of size and complexity, so I would expect fewer changes here post funding than for Unicron.
This ^
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:59pm CDT
https://www.cbr.com/exclusive-haslab-tr ... er-tier-3/
It's a rerelease of the Siege Stakeout/Red Heat pack, but now you get Holi in Victory Anime accurate colors (if you have Stakeout, then you have Zone colors already ) and Red HotHeat renamed for his Victory Anime name "Fire"
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:05pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:3rd tier (20K stretch goal) officially revealed. Shield plus 2 Micromasters Nice !
https://www.cbr.com/exclusive-haslab-tr ... er-tier-3/
It's a rerelease of the Siege Stakeout/Red Heat pack, but now you get Holi in Victory Anime accurate colors (if you have Stakeout, then you have Zone colors already ) and Red Heat renamed for his Victory Anime name "Fire"
"Revealed" I correct you. The first tier is not even unlocked yet.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:09pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:"Revealed" I correct you. The first tier is not even unlocked yet.
Yeah I caught that and corrected it
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
Here is the main crowdfunding page: https://hasbropulse.com/collections/has ... tory-saber
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Man, can we really make another 7652 orders in just nine days?
It's going to be tough, but not impossible. If we just get the V Lock cannon I'll be happy. I have no basis here, just random guessing, but lets say there are 3000 orders from other retailers sites that haven't been counted yet, and 3000 from TT Mall that haven't been counted (I think its a pretty safe bet VS gets more orders than Legends Grand Max which got more than 2000 back in 2018),so, that is 6K, it's close , but not enough...We shall see.
Also I kind of wish the Fire Truck Micromasters' name was Smoke. I'll see myself out now.
Posted by Autobot N on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by balgorra on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:26pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:33pm CDT
balgorra wrote:not sure how the two individual bots size up to each other.
Posted by Mindmaster on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Man, can we really make another 7652 orders in just nine days?
If they haven’t already tallied up international and Japanese orders, I think it could be very possible we’ll just skirt on by at the very end.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:46pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:51pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'll be honest, I kinda think we might have just crossed the number for the stand. I'm hoping I'm wrong and what actually happened was that we crossed the shield mark, but I'm not confident we're getting there unfortunately. I could also be wrong in thinking we crossed the stand mark. Either way, I'm not feeling particularly confident in us clearing the shield, but I'm really hoping we do
Huh? It jumped from 12,412 to 12,415 just now. That's not enough for the stand. Am I missing something?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:55pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'll be honest, I kinda think we might have just crossed the number for the stand. I'm hoping I'm wrong and what actually happened was that we crossed the shield mark, but I'm not confident we're getting there unfortunately. I could also be wrong in thinking we crossed the stand mark. Either way, I'm not feeling particularly confident in us clearing the shield, but I'm really hoping we do
Huh? It jumped from 12,412 to 12,415 just now. That's not enough for the stand. Am I missing something?
My assumption is that Hasbro isn't putting the numbers from the third party vendors in, but still has access to the numbers and is using that as a gage for when to reveal new stuff. It's completely me guessing, but it kinda makes sense to me because they might not put them in until the orders are locked in so as to not mess with the "official" count, but they probably get like a daily or weekly count or something to help them track progress and decide when to reveal things, especially after Galactus I believe blasted through like 3 tiers in a day because of affiliate orders.
But like I said, I'm totally guessing and very likely wrong
Posted by Emerje on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:01pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Now that this has actually funded, I was wondering, what do you imagine the packaging may look like? (or what would be your wish?). I mean I know the size will vary depending on whether or not all the tiers are funded. But both the SW Sail Barge and Marvel Legends Sentinel got what I would call premium packaging (Sail Barge homaging classic SW toy releases, and Sentinel with high color gloss and graphic art). While Unicron was a 3 foot Cube Plain brown box. Sure it did have a little graphic design, but not much.
I am hoping that Victory saber comes in a packaging that homages the original C-328 set. Having a flap held down with magnets (ala Unite Warriors) to see the toy inside would be neat as well. This is just wish fulfillment for me. But anything besides a plain brown box would be nice.
I'm guessing it'll just be a brown box since Hasbro seems to think these are part of Selects based on comments they made about Unicron's box. If not that then, like other HasLab projects, the box will just look like whatever is on the shelves at release, so in this case Legacy packaging.
Emerje
Posted by TF85fan on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:07pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:29pm CDT
Tier 1: V-Lock Cannon - 14,000sol magnus wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'll be honest, I kinda think we might have just crossed the number for the stand. I'm hoping I'm wrong and what actually happened was that we crossed the shield mark, but I'm not confident we're getting there unfortunately. I could also be wrong in thinking we crossed the stand mark. Either way, I'm not feeling particularly confident in us clearing the shield, but I'm really hoping we do
Huh? It jumped from 12,412 to 12,415 just now. That's not enough for the stand. Am I missing something?
Tier 2: flight stand - 17,000
Tier 3: shield, Holi, and Fire - 20,000
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:47pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on October 2nd, 2021 @ 1:28am CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 2nd, 2021 @ 1:32am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:sorry but that base mode is a joke and not a funny one. sigh.
But an accurate one
Posted by Rodimus Knight on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:10am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:sorry but that base mode is a joke and not a funny one. sigh.
But an accurate one
"Quick do the splits to form the base!"
It was stupid with Powermaster Prime too. If you're going to add a base mode, put some effort into it.
Posted by Emerje on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:19am CDT
Doesn't even compare.
I will say this, the shield makes all the difference in base mode, I really hope it gets that far.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:28am CDT
It's less an actual building and more just a gun turret, like what Energon Omega Supreme's two vehicles can turn into, but with more walls for a better defense.Rodimus Knight wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:sorry but that base mode is a joke and not a funny one. sigh.
But an accurate one
"Quick do the splits to form the base!"
It was stupid with Powermaster Prime too. If you're going to add a base mode, put some effort into it.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 2nd, 2021 @ 11:07am CDT
For that matter, Riker could be an easy remold of Swindler/Blackjack...
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 2nd, 2021 @ 7:55pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:sorry but that base mode is a joke and not a funny one. sigh.
But an accurate one
"Quick do the splits to form the base!"
It was stupid with Powermaster Prime too. If you're going to add a base mode, put some effort into it.
Years ago somebody on the site made a joke, If spreading its legs turns PM Prime into a base then Paris Hilton must turn into the Pentagon.
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:10pm CDT
So here are the images, along with some we already posted before, but please remember that this shows fully painted grey plastic while the finished toy would be a mix of coloured plastic and paint applications, as is always the case.
Here is the main crowdfunding page: https://hasbropulse.com/collections/has ... tory-saber
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2021 @ 11:28pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 2nd, 2021 @ 11:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I do wish they'd found a way to paint the Brain's face. I know it's so tiny, but still.
I mean, I'm not expecting any of that paint to stay. Maybe the red, white, and blue, but the gold's probably not
Posted by King Kuuga on October 2nd, 2021 @ 11:51pm CDT
Shield looks good, hope we get it, won't lose sleep if we don't.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2021 @ 11:56pm CDT
It's more of a weapons platform/turret than a battle station.King Kuuga wrote:Base mode is a joke, I don't care if it's accurate to the original toy or not.
Posted by King Kuuga on October 3rd, 2021 @ 11:42am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's more of a weapons platform/turret than a battle station.King Kuuga wrote:Base mode is a joke, I don't care if it's accurate to the original toy or not.
You can call it what you want, it's still just Star Saber doing the splits.
Posted by Asepticon on October 3rd, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2021 @ 12:39pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's more of a weapons platform/turret than a battle station.King Kuuga wrote:Base mode is a joke, I don't care if it's accurate to the original toy or not.
You can call it what you want, it's still just Star Saber doing the splits.
Does it matter though? I think there is no one out there going “I was gonna back this, but now that I see the base mode looks like it did on the G1 toy, I won’t anymore”
Posted by King Kuuga on October 3rd, 2021 @ 12:47pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's more of a weapons platform/turret than a battle station.King Kuuga wrote:Base mode is a joke, I don't care if it's accurate to the original toy or not.
You can call it what you want, it's still just Star Saber doing the splits.
Does it matter though? I think there is no one out there going “I was gonna back this, but now that I see the base mode looks like it did on the G1 toy, I won’t anymore”
It's not a deterrent but it's funny that they're pushing it, even just as a bonus feature.
Posted by First-Aid on October 3rd, 2021 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2021 @ 1:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I do wish they'd found a way to paint the Brain's face. I know it's so tiny, but still.
I do too but I what I think is that since it will just be molded plastic, it will look better and more detailed than the shot they put there which is just dabbed in blue paint.
King Kuuga wrote:william-james88 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's more of a weapons platform/turret than a battle station.King Kuuga wrote:Base mode is a joke, I don't care if it's accurate to the original toy or not.
You can call it what you want, it's still just Star Saber doing the splits.
Does it matter though? I think there is no one out there going “I was gonna back this, but now that I see the base mode looks like it did on the G1 toy, I won’t anymore”
It's not a deterrent but it's funny that they're pushing it, even just as a bonus feature.
Since it's not a deterrent and rather easy to ignore, there is only a possibility of gain by showing all the features this toy has. There's always gonna be a fan that goes "but the G1 toy did that, can this toy do this too?" And yes, it can, here's some extra images about it. Plus I think the real goal here is to show how much the shield adds to this, making the stretch goal even more desired than it may have been before.
Posted by King Kuuga on October 3rd, 2021 @ 2:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Plus I think the real goal here is to show how much the shield adds to this, making the stretch goal even more desired than it may have been before.
Alright that's fair, I'll drink to that.
Posted by Whifflefire on October 3rd, 2021 @ 3:54pm CDT
"Let's-a-go?"
"No, Let's say go!"
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 3rd, 2021 @ 4:09pm CDT