Full Preview: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #54

Microraptor wrote:Chromedome is WAY stronger than I thought.

Noideaforaname wrote:So... after all this nonsense about EVERYONE'S GONNA DIE, they all just get superpowered and punch all the Decepticons dead.

Deadput wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:So... after all this nonsense about EVERYONE'S GONNA DIE, they all just get superpowered and punch all the Decepticons dead.

Who said that was the case?


They were just discussing the possibility.

Deadput wrote:Who said that was the case?


They were just discussing the possibility.

Quint wrote:It really does look like Ravage is 'presenting' to Rodimus on that cover... and he in turn looks a little disturbed...

Rodimus Prime wrote:So that "Fortress Maximus" bit was a screw-up on someone's part, and the editor missed it. Had me confused for a bit.

Also, if they were trying to copy the iconic Magnus line from TF:TM, it was also screwed up. Maybe they were going for an homage. Whichever the case, there is no "right" in the line. It's "I can't deal with that now."

And yeah, I sure hope they were superpowered by something, because no way in hell Chromedome could do that to Overlord just by himself, no matter how much Roberts wants to shove the Domey/Rewind relationship down our throats.

Speaking of Overlord, I really hope Fortress Maximus shows up to either save the day or just help do it by finally taking out Overlord and killing him for what he did to Max in LSoTW.

Speaking of saving the day, given this preview, is there a chance that Grimlock might make an appearance? I hope so.

Overall, I have stayed away from the individual issues 50-53, just to get the story as a whole. I caught a few bits and pieces along with some of your grumblings about how things are going, but I look forward to reading all 5 issues back-to-back to get the full effect of this supposedly awesome arc.

Can't wait until next week.

P.S. I also hope Rung dies.

Randomhero wrote:I'm guessing va'al is having hard time not joining in the discussion because he already has his review copy

Dr Va'al wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'm guessing va'al is having hard time not joining in the discussion because he already has his review copy

Three of us regulars have it (me, Scott, D-max), as D-max is writing the review this time!
I'm just quiet as I'm in a spot with limited internet connection. But I have MANY thoughts on this issue.

The preview does a very good job of setting up things that may or may not have been guessed correctly in the thread, but also giving away that superpowered point again. Still - better fuel them fires, right?

Crosscheck wrote:SKIDS!

Crosscheck wrote:SKIDS!

Nautica, holding him tightly and weeping into his chest, overwrought

Randomhero wrote:Vos's only speech bubble translates into "Bears love sushi." Eh??

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, yes.

Skids was very sad. He was one character I had predicted to die, but it still is sad that he did, and he didn't even die in battle. He died because he tried, despite how weak he was, to find and try to apologize to Brainstorm. His was a sad death in many regards.

As for the chooms! at the end, I have 4 theories for that:
1) Magnus and crew who are not in the room
2) Rung and Nightbeat and whatever the heck they found/did
3) Deathsaurus turning on Tarn
4) Protectobots (who remember, are just out in space trying to catch up to the Lost Light. they were not there for the mutiny)

And the fact that a whole page was dedicated to Megatron's dramatic entrance. That is the best panel of the whole book.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:To anyone who hopes to read this review and not have some spoilers, whether they be major or minor, I would highly suggest reading the comic before this review.

Randomhero wrote:Agreed. I didn't hate this issue as I have for the past couple but I am very done with this story. 3 issues setting up the storm shield and then deciding not to use it. It's not a bad issue it's quite good but I'm finding myself feeling a lot of apathy for this story and just saying "alright let's move on"

im gonna raise one more theory to your list, the lost light returning and realizing what they did was wrong. 200 autobots on that ship, characters we all know and have some personally connection with certain ones betrayed them and led them to slaughter. 5 issues later and I till don't like the idea that characters like hound, huffer, gears, percepter, etc would do that. I think we can all agree megatron isn't killed, I think the best bet is Magnus, swerve, rewind, tailgate and Cyclonus. They never went back.

The full page of megatron walking up was lovely and is now my background on my iPad. Skids was sad and I was just talking to someone about if there's more to him and well, no. All that was left was him gaining his memories. That being said I don't thinks he's gone for good. There's still the mystery of what he saw when he entered a tyrest's portal and -cough! BRIEFCASE! cough!-.

Big Grim wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:To anyone who hopes to read this review and not have some spoilers, whether they be major or minor, I would highly suggest reading the comic before this review.

For a fellow who warns of spoilers, there are precious few in your reviews, and I appreciate that. I generally have longer to wait to get my issues in the UK but I do like to read the reviews. Your reviews are great because there are so few spoilers.

Thanks!

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, yes.

Skids was very sad. He was one character I had predicted to die, but it still is sad that he did, and he didn't even die in battle. He died because he tried, despite how weak he was, to find and try to apologize to Brainstorm. His was a sad death in many regards.

As for the chooms! at the end, I have 4 theories for that:
1) Magnus and crew who are not in the room
2) Rung and Nightbeat and whatever the heck they found/did
3) Deathsaurus turning on Tarn
4) Protectobots (who remember, are just out in space trying to catch up to the Lost Light. they were not there for the mutiny)

And the fact that a whole page was dedicated to Megatron's dramatic entrance. That is the best panel of the whole book.

Agreed. I didn't hate this issue as I have for the past couple but I am very done with this story. 3 issues setting up the storm shield and then deciding not to use it. It's not a bad issue it's quite good but I'm finding myself feeling a lot of apathy for this story and just saying "alright let's move on"

im gonna raise one more theory to your list, the lost light returning and realizing what they did was wrong. 200 autobots on that ship, characters we all know and have some personally connection with certain ones betrayed them and led them to slaughter. 5 issues later and I till don't like the idea that characters like hound, huffer, gears, percepter, etc would do that. I think we can all agree megatron isn't killed, I think the best bet is Magnus, swerve, rewind, tailgate and Cyclonus. They never went back.

The full page of megatron walking up was lovely and is now my background on my iPad. Skids was sad and I was just talking to someone about if there's more to him and well, no. All that was left was him gaining his memories. That being said I don't thinks he's gone for good. There's still the mystery of what he saw when he entered a tyrest's portal and -cough! BRIEFCASE! cough!-.

ricemazter wrote:I really, really hope that no one helps Megatron with the triple choom It'd be a real shame to have some deus ex character arrive in the nick of time to save the day. I know everyone would be excited for the protectobots to show up or something, but I'd prefer a Megatron character piece instead.

How about if the shot noises are actually Megatron's fists as he beats down tarn and overlord, proving the only thing holding him back was his own fear? He could be afraid to be without a gun, but not for the reasons the other cons assume. Another thing for him to use to keep his brutality in check.

Though I do have to wonder what the heck thunderclash is doing. I have a hard time believing he would go along with getaway's mutiny given everything we know about him.

Randomhero wrote:Nice call back to Maximun Dinobots with Rodimus doing his best human torch impersonations it was driving me nuts asking "he has done this before has he done this?" It was when he got captured by the Machination

DaRonin wrote:As for the cliffhanger in this issue, one of two things are going to happen. Either those three shots we heard were megatron firing from the cannon on his back, or it was Ultra Magnus to the rescue as, now that he has his upgrade, deserves a rematch with overlord while Megatron settles things with Tarn.

Also, I really hope Ravage isn't dead. I like him a lot.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Randomhero wrote:im gonna raise one more theory to your list, the lost light returning and realizing what they did was wrong. 200 autobots on that ship, characters we all know and have some personally connection with certain ones betrayed them and led them to slaughter. 5 issues later and I till don't like the idea that characters like hound, huffer, gears, percepter, etc would do that. I think we can all agree megatron isn't killed, I think the best bet is Magnus, swerve, rewind, tailgate and Cyclonus. They never went back.

I can agree about the Lost Light. I was very disturbed when Roberts mentioned that in issue 50, the entire crew did know that the exiles were on the same planet as the DJD knowingly. I hate that characters like Hoist, who had his roommate killed by one, would do that.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And you are right about the whole issue 21 thing. I'm not sure what they will do about that. I have been thinking that at the end of this arc, the exiles would hunt down their ship, or pursue the quest themselves, and eventually meet up again with the Lost Light and do battle for their ship. So, them coming back would be surprising and cool.

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Randomhero wrote:im gonna raise one more theory to your list, the lost light returning and realizing what they did was wrong. 200 autobots on that ship, characters we all know and have some personally connection with certain ones betrayed them and led them to slaughter. 5 issues later and I till don't like the idea that characters like hound, huffer, gears, percepter, etc would do that. I think we can all agree megatron isn't killed, I think the best bet is Magnus, swerve, rewind, tailgate and Cyclonus. They never went back.

I can agree about the Lost Light. I was very disturbed when Roberts mentioned that in issue 50, the entire crew did know that the exiles were on the same planet as the DJD knowingly. I hate that characters like Hoist, who had his roommate killed by one, would do that.

I'd say that's highly unlikely. Remember, at the start of Dying of the Light we see various characters receiving the stranded crew's last words, they specify that this message took three weeks to reach Optimus, Starscream, and the Scavengers, and then Optimus discovers that the Lost Light is radio silent, following Getaway deactivating comm.s post-mutiny. Theoretically, the LL could show up and then have a handwaved reason for being radio silent for a month, but eh, I'm a bit too optimistic to expect a cop out of that degree.

That said, I'm a bit suspicious of Thunderclash's place in the mutiny, especially since Roberts went out of his way to establish that he was forced into a coma when he showed up on the Lost Light, and remained in a coma until after Getaway and Atomizer were arrested. He may be playing along, but the coma seems to be a deliberate attempt to avoid having Thunderclash be "vetted" by Atomizer, Getaway and his nudge gun.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And you are right about the whole issue 21 thing. I'm not sure what they will do about that. I have been thinking that at the end of this arc, the exiles would hunt down their ship, or pursue the quest themselves, and eventually meet up again with the Lost Light and do battle for their ship. So, them coming back would be surprising and cool.

My pet theory is that the "subspace mailbox" introduced post-Combiner Wars will play into this - crew will have a Titans Return adventure, wind up on Luna 1, use Luna 1 tech to stretch out subspace mailbox.

Randomhero wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Randomhero wrote:im gonna raise one more theory to your list, the lost light returning and realizing what they did was wrong. 200 autobots on that ship, characters we all know and have some personally connection with certain ones betrayed them and led them to slaughter. 5 issues later and I till don't like the idea that characters like hound, huffer, gears, percepter, etc would do that. I think we can all agree megatron isn't killed, I think the best bet is Magnus, swerve, rewind, tailgate and Cyclonus. They never went back.

I can agree about the Lost Light. I was very disturbed when Roberts mentioned that in issue 50, the entire crew did know that the exiles were on the same planet as the DJD knowingly. I hate that characters like Hoist, who had his roommate killed by one, would do that.

I'd say that's highly unlikely. Remember, at the start of Dying of the Light we see various characters receiving the stranded crew's last words, they specify that this message took three weeks to reach Optimus, Starscream, and the Scavengers, and then Optimus discovers that the Lost Light is radio silent, following Getaway deactivating comm.s post-mutiny. Theoretically, the LL could show up and then have a handwaved reason for being radio silent for a month, but eh, I'm a bit too optimistic to expect a cop out of that degree.

That said, I'm a bit suspicious of Thunderclash's place in the mutiny, especially since Roberts went out of his way to establish that he was forced into a coma when he showed up on the Lost Light, and remained in a coma until after Getaway and Atomizer were arrested. He may be playing along, but the coma seems to be a deliberate attempt to avoid having Thunderclash be "vetted" by Atomizer, Getaway and his nudge gun.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And you are right about the whole issue 21 thing. I'm not sure what they will do about that. I have been thinking that at the end of this arc, the exiles would hunt down their ship, or pursue the quest themselves, and eventually meet up again with the Lost Light and do battle for their ship. So, them coming back would be surprising and cool.

My pet theory is that the "subspace mailbox" introduced post-Combiner Wars will play into this - crew will have a Titans Return adventure, wind up on Luna 1, use Luna 1 tech to stretch out subspace mailbox.

The reason why thunderclash was part of the mutiny is simple. megatron. 200 autobots covertly decided to mutiny because megatron was being allowed to live and be part of the crew. Getaway even says "not him, he is not allowed to be forgiven" 4 million years of war is reason enough to for some I'm not saying all but for some to do something about it. no doubt that's plenty reason for thunderclash.

Shauyaun wrote:I want to get into the transformers comics but I have no idea where to start I read till all are one issue one last night and I had no idea what was going on can anyone tell me how to start reading and what comics are related like I know robots in disguise and combiner wars are in the same time line(I think) I don't know.

MemphisR56 wrote:

Shauyaun wrote:I want to get into the transformers comics but I have no idea where to start I read till all are one issue one last night and I had no idea what was going on can anyone tell me how to start reading and what comics are related like I know robots in disguise and combiner wars are in the same time line(I think) I don't know.

There are 2 main timelines... sort of... it's now 3.

EDIT: making an image to go here because text formatting sucks.

Most people recommend starting at 'Death of Optimus Prime', this is what IDW officially considers the start of "Phase 2"