Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20
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We finally have the full previews for this week's comics from IDW Publishing featuring Transformers, and we're headed for a number of endings - continuing with Lost Light #20 below! Check it all out, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub as we prepare our review for the release date this new comic book day.
Transformers: Lost Light #20—Cover A: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Casey W. Coller (a) • Jack Lawrence (c)
Rodimus vs. Getaway! Finally!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Transformers: Lost Light #20—Cover B: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Casey W. Coller (a) • Jack Lawrence (c)
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
Cyclonus vs. Star Saber!
It’s a battle for the heart and soul of the Lost Light!
A story years in the making!
B&W variant cover by Jack Lawrence!
Credit(s): IDW
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Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969973)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 10th, 2018 @ 8:39am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 10th, 2018 @ 8:39am CDT
Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969990)
Posted by snavej on July 10th, 2018 @ 9:23am CDT
Posted by snavej on July 10th, 2018 @ 9:23am CDT
Gareth Southgate, manager of the England soccer team. 
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970161)
Posted by Randomhero on July 10th, 2018 @ 5:32pm CDT
I don’t know but I do know that with Thunderclash being interrupted on the last panel he’s probably dead on the next page.
Posted by Randomhero on July 10th, 2018 @ 5:32pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?
I don’t know but I do know that with Thunderclash being interrupted on the last panel he’s probably dead on the next page.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970166)
Posted by Sagitta on July 10th, 2018 @ 5:38pm CDT
Who knows? Maybe he can activate the ejection mechanism that he had Brainstorm build into the pilot's chair now that he's close enough....and send Getaway flying right into Scorp's unprotected back.
It's a thought.
Posted by Sagitta on July 10th, 2018 @ 5:38pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?
Who knows? Maybe he can activate the ejection mechanism that he had Brainstorm build into the pilot's chair now that he's close enough....and send Getaway flying right into Scorp's unprotected back.
It's a thought.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970251)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 11th, 2018 @ 2:35am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 11th, 2018 @ 2:35am CDT
Does this version of Grimlock have a toy representing it, or a figure that's at least close? (This is technically a toy question, but I didn't know where to ask in the toy discussion forum. Sorry.)
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970278)
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:22am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:22am CDT
I got the Fansproject one for this purpose but it's not really super close, especially in T-Rex mode. Nothing's taken the comic design and really used it. MMC showed some renders so maybe in 3 or 4 years they'll deliver a SwoopRodimus Prime wrote:Does this version of Grimlock have a toy representing it, or a figure that's at least close? (This is technically a toy question, but I didn't know where to ask in the toy discussion forum. Sorry.)
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970279)
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:23am CDT
Part 2 of the final story in the larger More Than Meets The Eye and Lost Light saga has arrived, with a big promise found in the solicitation: at last, Rodimus and Getaway are set to do battle!
To make this a long, wordy review will almost definitely spoil someone on something even if I don't intend to. If you're here just to find an answer to the question "is this issue good?", then the answer is "Yes, it's great - and you can stop reading this review now."
Two images from page one? Yes. Just go read it.
As highlighted by Va'al in his review of issue 19, there is a great deal going on. In issue 20, there still is, but the amount that is addressed in satisfying ways is nothing short of incredible. While not every pertinent question is answered, those within the context of the main events of this particular issue get some form of an answer. Telling you how complete these answers are may imply plot details, which I'm desperately trying to avoid in this review. Praise nonetheless is deserved for the pacing and intensity delivered by every page of this important chapter of the story.
"Guess Who The Mecannibals Are Having For Dinner?"
There is one side plot in particular among the several that get attention which felt somewhat truncated and short, at least upon a first reading. If you know me at all, you might know what I'm referring to, but if not, you probably will after reading. After taking some time to think about it over the last several days, it was close to the best choice that could have been made considering the wider narrative. Did it get space? Yes. Would I have liked for it to have gotten more? Yes. Would the plot have been better served with said "more" space? No. This issue had a purpose, and this part of the story was not the focus for a reason.
Actually lol'd
The focus is exactly what was promised in the solicitation: Rodimus vs Getaway. Getaway stole the Lost Light during a mutiny in More Than Meets The Eye #50, which was published on March 9th, 2016. Two years, four months, and two days later, the confrontation you've been waiting for arrives. It's the focus of the issue, it deserves that focus, and James Roberts absolutely delivers. Page 16 is absolutely chill-inducing, and the entire creative team deserves your $4 pretty much just based on it alone.
Yeah he did terrible things, but he throws one hell of a 4th of July party!
Speaking of the creative team: Casey. Freaking. Coller. One of the great missed opportunities of the IDW run is that Coller wasn't chosen for more interior work. Ever since the incredible Ironhide mini-series, I've been absolutely blown away by his work and the output on Lost Light #20 did so all over again. I couldn't post many of the best panels without spoiling stuff that shouldn't be spoiled, but his work on the action scenes breathes another level of life into them, telling a story within the story. The panels with more talking look great too (scroll up for that look at Rung and Wipe Out - wow!) and if this ends up being Casey Coller's last work on an IDW Transformers book, then it's one hell of a last hurrah.
Joana Lafuente's colors aren't to be ignored either, bringing the look right into "definitely Lost Light" territory. Despite there now being six interior artists (apologies if I missed someone) throughout the run of the series, you can always know what book it is just by taking a glance at a few pages. Tom B. Long provides all the "THUD"s, "HFF"s, and "THWACK"s you could ask for along with the usual stellar letter work, with some clever twists in the "speech" of the alien characters that calls right back to a previous plot-line. Regular series artist Jack Lawrence provides two covers, with Lafuente again on colors, with the "A" cover shown in this news story's thumbnail. As always, you can look up all the covers, credits, and potentially-spoiler-laden character appearances in our Vector Sigma Database entry for Lost Light #20.
This is what you've been waiting for. The main undercurrent for the main character of the series crashes to the shore in Lost Light #20, and it's a great ride. Read, experience, and enjoy. There are only so many more times you can.
Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue were not available as of this writing, either that or I've forgotten how Twitter works on a desktop. Here's my own suggestion, because why not, and because it just works for this one:
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:23am CDT
A Good Plan
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #20
Generally Spoiler-Free
Here we see the fandom outside Mr. Roberts' office
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #20
Generally Spoiler-Free
Here we see the fandom outside Mr. Roberts' office
Part 2 of the final story in the larger More Than Meets The Eye and Lost Light saga has arrived, with a big promise found in the solicitation: at last, Rodimus and Getaway are set to do battle!
To make this a long, wordy review will almost definitely spoil someone on something even if I don't intend to. If you're here just to find an answer to the question "is this issue good?", then the answer is "Yes, it's great - and you can stop reading this review now."
Two images from page one? Yes. Just go read it.
As highlighted by Va'al in his review of issue 19, there is a great deal going on. In issue 20, there still is, but the amount that is addressed in satisfying ways is nothing short of incredible. While not every pertinent question is answered, those within the context of the main events of this particular issue get some form of an answer. Telling you how complete these answers are may imply plot details, which I'm desperately trying to avoid in this review. Praise nonetheless is deserved for the pacing and intensity delivered by every page of this important chapter of the story.
"Guess Who The Mecannibals Are Having For Dinner?"
There is one side plot in particular among the several that get attention which felt somewhat truncated and short, at least upon a first reading. If you know me at all, you might know what I'm referring to, but if not, you probably will after reading. After taking some time to think about it over the last several days, it was close to the best choice that could have been made considering the wider narrative. Did it get space? Yes. Would I have liked for it to have gotten more? Yes. Would the plot have been better served with said "more" space? No. This issue had a purpose, and this part of the story was not the focus for a reason.
Actually lol'd
The focus is exactly what was promised in the solicitation: Rodimus vs Getaway. Getaway stole the Lost Light during a mutiny in More Than Meets The Eye #50, which was published on March 9th, 2016. Two years, four months, and two days later, the confrontation you've been waiting for arrives. It's the focus of the issue, it deserves that focus, and James Roberts absolutely delivers. Page 16 is absolutely chill-inducing, and the entire creative team deserves your $4 pretty much just based on it alone.
Yeah he did terrible things, but he throws one hell of a 4th of July party!
Speaking of the creative team: Casey. Freaking. Coller. One of the great missed opportunities of the IDW run is that Coller wasn't chosen for more interior work. Ever since the incredible Ironhide mini-series, I've been absolutely blown away by his work and the output on Lost Light #20 did so all over again. I couldn't post many of the best panels without spoiling stuff that shouldn't be spoiled, but his work on the action scenes breathes another level of life into them, telling a story within the story. The panels with more talking look great too (scroll up for that look at Rung and Wipe Out - wow!) and if this ends up being Casey Coller's last work on an IDW Transformers book, then it's one hell of a last hurrah.
Joana Lafuente's colors aren't to be ignored either, bringing the look right into "definitely Lost Light" territory. Despite there now being six interior artists (apologies if I missed someone) throughout the run of the series, you can always know what book it is just by taking a glance at a few pages. Tom B. Long provides all the "THUD"s, "HFF"s, and "THWACK"s you could ask for along with the usual stellar letter work, with some clever twists in the "speech" of the alien characters that calls right back to a previous plot-line. Regular series artist Jack Lawrence provides two covers, with Lafuente again on colors, with the "A" cover shown in this news story's thumbnail. As always, you can look up all the covers, credits, and potentially-spoiler-laden character appearances in our Vector Sigma Database entry for Lost Light #20.
Verdict
American translation: "will always sound stupid"
American translation: "will always sound stupid"
This is what you've been waiting for. The main undercurrent for the main character of the series crashes to the shore in Lost Light #20, and it's a great ride. Read, experience, and enjoy. There are only so many more times you can.
. 
out of
out of Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue were not available as of this writing, either that or I've forgotten how Twitter works on a desktop. Here's my own suggestion, because why not, and because it just works for this one:
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970282)
Posted by Va'al on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:43am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:43am CDT
A very very good review, and deserved praise for Coller!
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970283)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 8:06am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 8:06am CDT
I'm happy to hear that this delivers on the promise of getaway getting exactly what he deserves. I'm going to enjoy reading this one I think.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970305)
Posted by MrBlack on July 11th, 2018 @ 8:41am CDT
Posted by MrBlack on July 11th, 2018 @ 8:41am CDT
This was a really enjoyable issue.
I honestly didn't expect to see this part of the plot wrap so soon, and it was VERY satisfying. Star Saber went down quickly, but he's been little more than a plot device in this series so that's to be expected. The Getaway/Rodimus confrontation was perfect.
With Getaway gone it looks like Roberts will have plenty of space to tell the Grand Architect's story. I wonder to what degree it will intersect with the Unicron event. Is he "the Beast" Tyrest spoke of? Is Unicron coming through that portal at the end?
I honestly didn't expect to see this part of the plot wrap so soon, and it was VERY satisfying. Star Saber went down quickly, but he's been little more than a plot device in this series so that's to be expected. The Getaway/Rodimus confrontation was perfect.
With Getaway gone it looks like Roberts will have plenty of space to tell the Grand Architect's story. I wonder to what degree it will intersect with the Unicron event. Is he "the Beast" Tyrest spoke of? Is Unicron coming through that portal at the end?
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970321)
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:08am CDT
You’re not reading the other books are you? Unicron has been slumbering pretending to be a planet for eons. There’s no portal for him to come through and lost light is not partaking in the Unicron event
. Everything we’re gettjng is what James set up 6 years ago. this is their story.
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:08am CDT
MrBlack wrote:This was a really enjoyable issue.
I honestly didn't expect to see this part of the plot wrap so soon, and it was VERY satisfying. Star Saber went down quickly, but he's been little more than a plot device in this series so that's to be expected. The Getaway/Rodimus confrontation was perfect.
With Getaway gone it looks like Roberts will have plenty of space to tell the Grand Architect's story. I wonder to what degree it will intersect with the Unicron event. Is he "the Beast" Tyrest spoke of? Is Unicron coming through that portal at the end?
You’re not reading the other books are you? Unicron has been slumbering pretending to be a planet for eons. There’s no portal for him to come through and lost light is not partaking in the Unicron event
. Everything we’re gettjng is what James set up 6 years ago. this is their story.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970326)
Posted by MrBlack on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by MrBlack on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:16am CDT
I am reading the other books.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970329)
Posted by YoungPrime on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:30am CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:30am CDT
Good issue I give it an 8/10.
Loved the way one particular Bot bought the farm. Another long awaited "conclusion" was too cut and dry though.
Not sure what that was at the end though but I'm looking forward to finding out in the next issue.
Loved the way one particular Bot bought the farm. Another long awaited "conclusion" was too cut and dry though.
Not sure what that was at the end though but I'm looking forward to finding out in the next issue.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970330)
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:31am CDT
There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:31am CDT
MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970332)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:38am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:38am CDT
Randomhero is right, not to say that James could have let barber know how things were going to end if he wanted to add anything from ll to the last issues of unicron but I sincerely doubt it. So sit back and watch the ll's last flight...then go and see Cybertron being eaten 
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970335)
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:41am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:41am CDT
Look at it this way, MTMTE/LL is a fairly isolated book. It’s james story. Yes it’s crossed over with Dark Cybertron and contributed very lightly with Combiner wars and the only hiccup in the entire series has been bringing Megatron in which he got rid of last year to get back on track.
Does shoehorning unicron into the finale of the whole thing really work with everything james Roberts has done? Unicron has his own series and Optimus Prime will be dealing with what’s happening on a earth with Unicron because John Barber has been laying seeds to cross with unicron in that book since the start of 2018.
Can you actually be satified with adding anything unicron to MTMTE and lost light at the end very end where there will not be a pay off of him because it’s happening elsewhere?
Does shoehorning unicron into the finale of the whole thing really work with everything james Roberts has done? Unicron has his own series and Optimus Prime will be dealing with what’s happening on a earth with Unicron because John Barber has been laying seeds to cross with unicron in that book since the start of 2018.
Can you actually be satified with adding anything unicron to MTMTE and lost light at the end very end where there will not be a pay off of him because it’s happening elsewhere?
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970340)
Posted by YoungPrime on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:54am CDT
Which works for me! I'm not even that hyped for Barber's stuff.
I can't stand most of OP's cast anyway. Or the humans, the Hasbro-verse shoe in's and now Beast War characters as Unicron's minions...? It's no wonder why JR won't be part of the this tie in or the reboot.
Posted by YoungPrime on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:54am CDT
Randomhero wrote:MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
Which works for me! I'm not even that hyped for Barber's stuff. I can't stand most of OP's cast anyway. Or the humans, the Hasbro-verse shoe in's and now Beast War characters as Unicron's minions...? It's no wonder why JR won't be part of the this tie in or the reboot.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970345)
Posted by Big Grim on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by Big Grim on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:04am CDT
Top notch issue. One death a little quick, the other was perfect. Rodimus emerging from the fires in his proper colours with Getaway was sublime!
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970349)
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:15am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:15am CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
I can't stand most of OP's cast anyway. Or the humans, the Hasbro-verse shoe in's and now Beast War characters as Unicron's minions...? It's no wonder why JR won't be part of the this tie or the reboot.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970354)
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:44am CDT
I know it may seem harmless but the wholesale dismissal of conversation like this drives folks away.
Posted by ScottyP on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:44am CDT
Randomhero wrote:MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.
I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
Or maybe MrBlack's just throwing out some fun speculation!ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero is right, not to say that James could have let barber know how things were going to end if he wanted to add anything from ll to the last issues of unicron but I sincerely doubt it. So sit back and watch the ll's last flight...then go and see Cybertron being eaten
I know it may seem harmless but the wholesale dismissal of conversation like this drives folks away.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970358)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 11th, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT
Sorry, wasn't supposed to sound quite like that 
was supposed to be letting him down gently that there's no crossover. Suppose there could be a last minute surprise
was supposed to be letting him down gently that there's no crossover. Suppose there could be a last minute surprise
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970366)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 11th, 2018 @ 11:44am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 11th, 2018 @ 11:44am CDT
A little visual cameo of Rodimus Prime towards the end of this run would be nice. I mean they've already completely botched the Beast Wars cameos by leaving them as generic soldiers. So I think having the Chosen One, who actually legitimately defeated the original Unicron appear in some way would be the only potential tie in/crossover necessary from LL.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970398)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 11th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 11th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CDT
I gotta disagree with bringing Megatron in being a "hiccup." Roberts has done a lot of things badly in MTMTE and LL, but Megatron's story was not one of them. It's one of the few redeeming parts the book has. Until the end, anyway. The ending of Dying of the Light was f**king horrible. But like I said before, maybe this last arc will bring everything together. It seems to be improving in story telling.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970429)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:15pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2018 @ 6:15pm CDT
Spoilers ahead!
1) I felt Star Saber went far too fast. He had Defensor syndrome here (not over that, thanks for asking) in a horrible way. we didn't even see his Robot mode! That was kinda sad, but also insanely awesome. Proof Roberts has once again made a great Cyclonus.
2) Whirl and his scraplets. again proof Whirl is another one of the best IDW bots. That was great! And great use of them to eat Getaway, perfect ending for him. Especially since Rodimus overcame a lot of personal stuff right beforehand. Also, still kinda sad that those guys still ate like 25 crewmembers.
3) the sparkeaters felt disposed of a bit too fast too, especially since numerous ones died last issue. Eh, things happen.
The sky torn asunder. I really want to know who the grand architect is and what this is... Maybe it's that creature from "Call of the Primitives?"
1) I felt Star Saber went far too fast. He had Defensor syndrome here (not over that, thanks for asking) in a horrible way. we didn't even see his Robot mode! That was kinda sad, but also insanely awesome. Proof Roberts has once again made a great Cyclonus.
2) Whirl and his scraplets. again proof Whirl is another one of the best IDW bots. That was great! And great use of them to eat Getaway, perfect ending for him. Especially since Rodimus overcame a lot of personal stuff right beforehand. Also, still kinda sad that those guys still ate like 25 crewmembers.
3) the sparkeaters felt disposed of a bit too fast too, especially since numerous ones died last issue. Eh, things happen.
The sky torn asunder. I really want to know who the grand architect is and what this is... Maybe it's that creature from "Call of the Primitives?"
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970445)
Posted by Ironhidensh on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:54pm CDT
After how Defensor went out, I really loved seeing Starsaber go out like a bitch!
This was a great issue, just simply great. Every thing clicked together just right. We finally saw Rodimus Prime. Kudos to Roberts and Coller and the whole team!
Posted by Ironhidensh on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:54pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Spoilers ahead!
1) I felt Star Saber went far too fast. He had Defensor syndrome here (not over that, thanks for asking) in a horrible way. we didn't even see his Robot mode! That was kinda sad, but also insanely awesome. Proof Roberts has once again made a great Cyclonus.
2)
After how Defensor went out, I really loved seeing Starsaber go out like a bitch!
This was a great issue, just simply great. Every thing clicked together just right. We finally saw Rodimus Prime. Kudos to Roberts and Coller and the whole team!
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970446)
Posted by Sagitta on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by Sagitta on July 11th, 2018 @ 7:56pm CDT
Anyone catch that Rung was familiar, using his own personal memory, with the sound/impression/insignia the telepaths chanted after the countdown? Unless he was "off panel" he wasn't seen in Megatron's class on the Knights' various coat of arms. 
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970537)
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
Information creep. Rung doesn’t remember much of his past
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
Sagitta wrote:Anyone catch that Rung was familiar, using his own personal memory, with the sound/impression/insignia the telepaths chanted after the countdown? Unless he was "off panel" he wasn't seen in Megatron's class on the Knights' various coat of arms.
Information creep. Rung doesn’t remember much of his past
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970575)
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 12:10pm CDT
Says the dude who’s taking break to enjoy some delicious ecto-cooler. GET BACK TO WORK!
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 12:10pm CDT
Says the dude who’s taking break to enjoy some delicious ecto-cooler. GET BACK TO WORK!
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970598)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 12th, 2018 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 12th, 2018 @ 1:42pm CDT
Ok, as we near the end, a slight tangent. Given the above reactions to Star Saber, Defensor and others before, as well as my own misgivings about previous deaths/defeats IE The totally pathetic way Bruticus was "defeated".
Who do you feel has been screwed over the most in the IDWverse continuity? Be that in characterisation, representation etc
Oh, lets keep the discourse civil/adult too.
Personally, my pick is Punch/Counterpunch IE The bot that never was. The fact Legacy of Rust exists, to an unknown level of completion, and was simply shelved for the most asinine of excuses boggles the mind. By rights this is/was the character's only appearance in this continuity, his own mini no less and it will now likely never see the light of day again with the end of this continuity. Meanwhile blatant trash like Heart of Darkness, Transformers/Avengers and the Costa Run will endure through collected volumes. Could this have been up there with The Wreckers mini's in terms of quality? The world will never know..
Who do you feel has been screwed over the most in the IDWverse continuity? Be that in characterisation, representation etc
Oh, lets keep the discourse civil/adult too.
Personally, my pick is Punch/Counterpunch IE The bot that never was. The fact Legacy of Rust exists, to an unknown level of completion, and was simply shelved for the most asinine of excuses boggles the mind. By rights this is/was the character's only appearance in this continuity, his own mini no less and it will now likely never see the light of day again with the end of this continuity. Meanwhile blatant trash like Heart of Darkness, Transformers/Avengers and the Costa Run will endure through collected volumes. Could this have been up there with The Wreckers mini's in terms of quality? The world will never know..
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970617)
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:02pm CDT
None. I don’t compare previous fiction to current IDW characters because it’s not fair. There more continuities and universes for there to be comeplelty different and new versions.
Could legacy of Rust been good? Maybe/maybe not. There’s a reason they pulled it. It was created while they were wanting to change things in a new direction. It was also an Andy Schmidt creation so keep that that under advisement. People can say negative things about Barber. 1. They’re wrong and 2. Schmidt admitted fully on message boards he didn’t even read what he was being the editor of. John did that.
Only character I won’t say was screwed but was Unfortunate was Scourge. He was just forgotten and killed off panel and confirmed dead in a commentary to an u related book.
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:02pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ok, as we near the end, a slight tangent. Given the above reactions to Star Saber, Defensor and others before, as well as my own misgivings about previous deaths/defeats IE The totally pathetic way Bruticus was "defeated".
Who do you feel has been screwed over the most in the IDWverse continuity? Be that in characterisation, representation etc
Oh, lets keep the discourse civil/adult too.
Personally, my pick is Punch/Counterpunch IE The bot that never was. The fact Legacy of Rust exists, to an unknown level of completion, and was simply shelved for the most asinine of excuses boggles the mind. By rights this is/was the character's only appearance in this continuity, his own mini no less and it will now likely never see the light of day again with the end of this continuity. Meanwhile blatant trash like Heart of Darkness, Transformers/Avengers and the Costa Run will endure through collected volumes. Could this have been up there with The Wreckers mini's in terms of quality? The world will never know..
None. I don’t compare previous fiction to current IDW characters because it’s not fair. There more continuities and universes for there to be comeplelty different and new versions.
Could legacy of Rust been good? Maybe/maybe not. There’s a reason they pulled it. It was created while they were wanting to change things in a new direction. It was also an Andy Schmidt creation so keep that that under advisement. People can say negative things about Barber. 1. They’re wrong and 2. Schmidt admitted fully on message boards he didn’t even read what he was being the editor of. John did that.
Only character I won’t say was screwed but was Unfortunate was Scourge. He was just forgotten and killed off panel and confirmed dead in a commentary to an u related book.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970625)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CDT
I think term screwed over is going to vary from person to person just as randomhero has pointed out and demonstrated. I think though kup got a raw deal but likely he was given the go ahead to go like that based on the fact he probably didn't have a place in the finale.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970626)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CDT
I'm not really talking about comparisons between previous runs either, that is subjective. I'm purely referring to representation within IDWverse. Scourge was my number two choice also. His entire appearance from Heart of Darkness to CHAOS was a complete mess. I ultimately equate it to: They had plans for Cyclonus and eventual plans for Galvatron, Scourge was the odd one out.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970639)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 12th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 12th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Since we're in the Lost Light thread, my answer will pertain to MTMTE/LL only. And the 2 characters who were most grossly misused were Ultra Magnus and Overlord, in my opinion.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970662)
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 7:47pm CDT
Overlord was never a main character. He was a side story. Roberts made him stupid powerful and indestructible which led to “well why do you do with him?” He had more right to be concluded in a wrecker story than this series
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 7:47pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Since we're in the Lost Light thread, my answer will pertain to MTMTE/LL only. And the 2 characters who were most grossly misused were Ultra Magnus and Overlord, in my opinion.
Overlord was never a main character. He was a side story. Roberts made him stupid powerful and indestructible which led to “well why do you do with him?” He had more right to be concluded in a wrecker story than this series
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970663)
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 7:49pm CDT
Isn’t that scourge in 99% media? He’s just the lackey of the trio. hHe was in the the cartoon, headmasters, marvel and UK marvel . McCarthy had plans for him but hasbro(not IDW) said no to them.
Posted by Randomhero on July 12th, 2018 @ 7:49pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm not really talking about comparisons between previous runs either, that is subjective. I'm purely referring to representation within IDWverse. Scourge was my number two choice also. His entire appearance from Heart of Darkness to CHAOS was a complete mess. I ultimately equate it to: They had plans for Cyclonus and eventual plans for Galvatron, Scourge was the odd one out.
Isn’t that scourge in 99% media? He’s just the lackey of the trio. hHe was in the the cartoon, headmasters, marvel and UK marvel . McCarthy had plans for him but hasbro(not IDW) said no to them.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970668)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 12th, 2018 @ 9:58pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 12th, 2018 @ 9:58pm CDT
My point exactly.Randomhero wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Since we're in the Lost Light thread, my answer will pertain to MTMTE/LL only. And the 2 characters who were most grossly misused were Ultra Magnus and Overlord, in my opinion.
Overlord was never a main character. He was a side story.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970684)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 2:28am CDT
What plans did he have?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 2:28am CDT
Randomhero wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm not really talking about comparisons between previous runs either, that is subjective. I'm purely referring to representation within IDWverse. Scourge was my number two choice also. His entire appearance from Heart of Darkness to CHAOS was a complete mess. I ultimately equate it to: They had plans for Cyclonus and eventual plans for Galvatron, Scourge was the odd one out.
Isn’t that scourge in 99% media? He’s just the lackey of the trio. hHe was in the the cartoon, headmasters, marvel and UK marvel . McCarthy had plans for him but hasbro(not IDW) said no to them.
What plans did he have?
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970690)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 3:49am CDT
So we're calling G1, upto 1991 (at the latest for Marvel UK) "99%" of media now? I mean they've all had toys name after them since but Scourge, as he was traditionally depicted, had been absent for a long time.
Likewise depending on when it was written in G1 comics, Scourge was been depicted as the brains and Cyclonus the lackey, but that is semantics. At the end of the day he is part of The Iconic Trinity of Transformers.
Galvatron got a reinvention in IDW. Cyclonus, much like Ultra Magnus got Two reinventions, contentious as they are. Meanwhile next to nothing new was done with Scourge. Even the idea of the Sweeps were botched, as they appeared out of thin air because a writer was too lazy to give Galvatron an army of individuals in CHAOS.
Plus you can't really dismiss Scourge's lack of exposure/development as because he is just a lackey. meanwhile Runabout, Runamuck and even one and done Ramjet got more time to shine than he did and they are all nobodies.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 3:49am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Isn’t that scourge in 99% media?
So we're calling G1, upto 1991 (at the latest for Marvel UK) "99%" of media now? I mean they've all had toys name after them since but Scourge, as he was traditionally depicted, had been absent for a long time.
Likewise depending on when it was written in G1 comics, Scourge was been depicted as the brains and Cyclonus the lackey, but that is semantics. At the end of the day he is part of The Iconic Trinity of Transformers.
Galvatron got a reinvention in IDW. Cyclonus, much like Ultra Magnus got Two reinventions, contentious as they are. Meanwhile next to nothing new was done with Scourge. Even the idea of the Sweeps were botched, as they appeared out of thin air because a writer was too lazy to give Galvatron an army of individuals in CHAOS.
Plus you can't really dismiss Scourge's lack of exposure/development as because he is just a lackey. meanwhile Runabout, Runamuck and even one and done Ramjet got more time to shine than he did and they are all nobodies.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970693)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 4:50am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 4:50am CDT
I think hasbro has changed the definition of the trinity and who they are now as I think it could be prime, bee and megs
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970694)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:01am CDT
They are not that kind of Trinity, the DC kind. They are a trio of linked characters. Synonymous with each other.
The irony of this image, eh?
Even their concept art was drawn together
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:01am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think hasbro has changed the definition of the trinity and who they are now as I think it could be prime, bee and megs
They are not that kind of Trinity, the DC kind. They are a trio of linked characters. Synonymous with each other.The irony of this image, eh?
Even their concept art was drawn together
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970698)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:50am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:50am CDT
Then maybe hasbro decided that it was time to break it? Take things in a new direction. I mean why should that be kept? Next you'll be arguing that prime and megs should be kept (my tongue is firmly in cheek here, I know how you feel about those two being trotted out again and again, so I'm just a little confused as to why you think this trinity matters)
(my tongue is firmly in cheek here, I know how you feel about those two being trotted out again and again, so I'm just a little confused as to why you think this trinity matters)
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970701)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:54am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:54am CDT
Because I like Scourge and I think someone could really do something different and interesting with him and the Sweeps concept. Which no one has since his debut. Considering how they really reinvented Thunderwing, Arcee etc it is such a missed opportunity to one of the most visually unique Transformers to just say "New IDWverse, same old Scourge".
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970708)
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:50am CDT
Because there really isn’t much to do with him. dreamwave tried. They introduced him in war and peace and it was “holy crap scourge!? In 2002!? And he’s not affiliated with unicron?!” One year later: NOPE! Spawn of unicron nothing truly special. Sweeps? Nope spawns of unicron
In defense of IDW they did do something different and interesting wth scourge and the sweeps. He’s an ancient cybertronian. Made the sweeps Galvatron a army and none of it was connected with Unicron.
If you’re wanting different they did. Whether you like it or not they did do something different with them.
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:50am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Because I like Scourge and I think someone could really do something different and interesting with him and the Sweeps concept. Which no one has since his debut. Considering how they really reinvented Thunderwing, Arcee etc it is such a missed opportunity to one of the most visually unique Transformers to just say "New IDWverse, same old Scourge".
Because there really isn’t much to do with him. dreamwave tried. They introduced him in war and peace and it was “holy crap scourge!? In 2002!? And he’s not affiliated with unicron?!” One year later: NOPE! Spawn of unicron nothing truly special. Sweeps? Nope spawns of unicron
In defense of IDW they did do something different and interesting wth scourge and the sweeps. He’s an ancient cybertronian. Made the sweeps Galvatron a army and none of it was connected with Unicron.
If you’re wanting different they did. Whether you like it or not they did do something different with them.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970709)
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:09am CDT
Their concept and everything is made together the same reason the 86 autobots is. They were the new toys. The only new Decepticons in the movie and the sweeps were just the seekers with a different look. How many seekers popped up in season one? So many genetics. They just decided by the movie to make them identical to save animation costs.
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:09am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I think hasbro has changed the definition of the trinity and who they are now as I think it could be prime, bee and megs
The irony of this image, eh?
Even their concept art was drawn together
Their concept and everything is made together the same reason the 86 autobots is. They were the new toys. The only new Decepticons in the movie and the sweeps were just the seekers with a different look. How many seekers popped up in season one? So many genetics. They just decided by the movie to make them identical to save animation costs.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970711)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:19am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:19am CDT
Quite an ingenious idea and saved them a bit of time. Still, the closest idea I could think of giving scourge a new lease of life is to say that there was only one of him but in an effort to create an immortal spark and body to match, started experimenting on himself. He does have a sort of alchemist look after all. This is how the sweeps came into being as clones he uses to share his mind between. Sort of a transformers ultron in some regard
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970712)
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:21am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 7:21am CDT
But to get back on track in a way and since this is a lost light thread the one character I’ve never enjoyed in the series sadly is Rodimus. He’s awful. Roberts took everything written for him in costas ongoing and threw it out the window. You can say how much you hate costas ongoing but he was a damn good character writer when it came to the second half of his run. Yes the first year of the ongoing is rough but I won’t say a bad thing about year two. It’s where mike shined.
Rodimus was a good character in the ongoing. He started out selfish and reckless but by the end he earned his name, rank and trust as Optimus’s second in command by chaos. He grew as a character. You saw him go from telling Optimus off to believing he could be a prime to abandoning everyone just to get back to matrix to show he’s great and then dying, coming back and seeing ironhide and group on Cybertron to show him the wrongs he’s commited.
MTMTE ignored all that and made him an uncharismatic character again who was selfish and reckless all over again that got crew memeber killed on more occasions it should have and every arc that had a tragedy it “no more. No more distraction, no more deaths. We save lives” next issue, it’s like that conversation never happened.
I wish I could say the moment Getaway makes his point. And Rodimus looks legitimately shocked and then goes in to save Getaway made me feel something but we’ve had similar scenes for 80 issues.
Rodimus was a good character in the ongoing. He started out selfish and reckless but by the end he earned his name, rank and trust as Optimus’s second in command by chaos. He grew as a character. You saw him go from telling Optimus off to believing he could be a prime to abandoning everyone just to get back to matrix to show he’s great and then dying, coming back and seeing ironhide and group on Cybertron to show him the wrongs he’s commited.
MTMTE ignored all that and made him an uncharismatic character again who was selfish and reckless all over again that got crew memeber killed on more occasions it should have and every arc that had a tragedy it “no more. No more distraction, no more deaths. We save lives” next issue, it’s like that conversation never happened.
I wish I could say the moment Getaway makes his point. And Rodimus looks legitimately shocked and then goes in to save Getaway made me feel something but we’ve had similar scenes for 80 issues.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970718)
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 8:15am CDT
And it worked. I have 4 generations scourges and 4 titans return scourges and one legends Scourge.
My own personal fanon of the sweeps is Scourge is an outlier that can copy his template to protoforms and legitimate clone himself. They don’t have sparks they’re just drones but he’s mentally connected to
All of them. It was an idea I came up with when I was a kid for Cyclonus to finally have his armada but eventually went to Scourge. This was way before the term outlier was conceived by Roberts, I just called it an ability.
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 8:15am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Quite an ingenious idea and saved them a bit of time. Still, the closest idea I could think of giving scourge a new lease of life is to say that there was only one of him but in an effort to create an immortal spark and body to match, started experimenting on himself. He does have a sort of alchemist look after all. This is how the sweeps came into being as clones he uses to share his mind between. Sort of a transformers ultron in some regard
And it worked. I have 4 generations scourges and 4 titans return scourges and one legends Scourge.
My own personal fanon of the sweeps is Scourge is an outlier that can copy his template to protoforms and legitimate clone himself. They don’t have sparks they’re just drones but he’s mentally connected to
All of them. It was an idea I came up with when I was a kid for Cyclonus to finally have his armada but eventually went to Scourge. This was way before the term outlier was conceived by Roberts, I just called it an ability.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970734)
Posted by AlphaBass on July 13th, 2018 @ 9:03am CDT
Posted by AlphaBass on July 13th, 2018 @ 9:03am CDT
I mean, Shockwave had that ability, though it was only expanded upon in the Transformers: Devastation game.
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970739)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 9:31am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 9:31am CDT
The way you describe his ability makes me think of agent Smith in the matrix reloaded, which could be another concept for the character...or insecticons. Having characters bitten and then slowly having codes rewritten, being re-formatted forcibly.
As for rodimus, I cant sat I was bugged too much about his character. With rodimus I always found it jarring how he was handled in season 3 of the toon compared to the movie
As for rodimus, I cant sat I was bugged too much about his character. With rodimus I always found it jarring how he was handled in season 3 of the toon compared to the movie
Re: Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1970761)
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
Which is crazy to think that half of season three was already produced when the movie came out and they actually wrote him that way not knowing kids didn’t like him and wanted Optimus back. It makes sense if you strictly look at him as a young, inexperienced leader that is learning but man, Rodimus has some bad moments.
I totally understand I’m on my own with how Rodimus was portrayed in MTMTE/LL and totally respect people who don’t agree with me but I am someone who is enjoy costas ongoing by the end. Yes the first arc is rough and I did almost drop it after issue three but issue four with thundercracker got me to stay and the second volume International Incident is bad but right after with rodimus infiltrating the Decepticons to retrieve the matrix till his final issue I loved.
Some of my enjoyment probably comes from listening to some interviews he did for the underbase podcast. During the revenge of the Decepticons story he was so full of energy and really liked writing the book. Mike Costa is a transformers fan. And then when the final issue of chaos came out they had him back and the dude just sounded broken. He got crapped on so bad and fans were not afraid to hit behind their social media and forums telling him how much they hated him and his series. I felt for him. He’s a good dude and a good writer but he was being given some bad directions by editor Andy Schmidt. Costa was suppose to do MTMTE. He came up with the idea of a quest for the Knights of Cybertron but halfway through Chaos he said “I’m done. I don’t want write for transformers anymore.” The dude sounded defeated and those podcasts were only 6-8 months apart.
Maybe my enjoyment for some writing is empathy but I did enjoy some of those stories and the characterization some were given.
Posted by Randomhero on July 13th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:The way you describe his ability makes me think of agent Smith in the matrix reloaded, which could be another concept for the character...or insecticons. Having characters bitten and then slowly having codes rewritten, being re-formatted forcibly.
As for rodimus, I cant sat I was bugged too much about his character. With rodimus I always found it jarring how he was handled in season 3 of the toon compared to the movie
Which is crazy to think that half of season three was already produced when the movie came out and they actually wrote him that way not knowing kids didn’t like him and wanted Optimus back. It makes sense if you strictly look at him as a young, inexperienced leader that is learning but man, Rodimus has some bad moments.
I totally understand I’m on my own with how Rodimus was portrayed in MTMTE/LL and totally respect people who don’t agree with me but I am someone who is enjoy costas ongoing by the end. Yes the first arc is rough and I did almost drop it after issue three but issue four with thundercracker got me to stay and the second volume International Incident is bad but right after with rodimus infiltrating the Decepticons to retrieve the matrix till his final issue I loved.
Some of my enjoyment probably comes from listening to some interviews he did for the underbase podcast. During the revenge of the Decepticons story he was so full of energy and really liked writing the book. Mike Costa is a transformers fan. And then when the final issue of chaos came out they had him back and the dude just sounded broken. He got crapped on so bad and fans were not afraid to hit behind their social media and forums telling him how much they hated him and his series. I felt for him. He’s a good dude and a good writer but he was being given some bad directions by editor Andy Schmidt. Costa was suppose to do MTMTE. He came up with the idea of a quest for the Knights of Cybertron but halfway through Chaos he said “I’m done. I don’t want write for transformers anymore.” The dude sounded defeated and those podcasts were only 6-8 months apart.
Maybe my enjoyment for some writing is empathy but I did enjoy some of those stories and the characterization some were given.
