AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ok, as we near the end, a slight tangent. Given the above reactions to Star Saber, Defensor and others before, as well as my own misgivings about previous deaths/defeats IE The totally pathetic way Bruticus was "defeated".
Who do you feel has been screwed over the most in the IDWverse continuity? Be that in characterisation, representation etc
Oh, lets keep the discourse civil/adult too.
Personally, my pick is Punch/Counterpunch IE The bot that never was. The fact Legacy of Rust exists, to an unknown level of completion, and was simply shelved for the most asinine of excuses boggles the mind. By rights this is/was the character's only appearance in this continuity, his own mini no less and it will now likely never see the light of day again with the end of this continuity. Meanwhile blatant trash like Heart of Darkness, Transformers/Avengers and the Costa Run will endure through collected volumes. Could this have been up there with The Wreckers mini's in terms of quality? The world will never know..
Rodimus Prime wrote:Since we're in the Lost Light thread, my answer will pertain to MTMTE/LL only. And the 2 characters who were most grossly misused were Ultra Magnus and Overlord, in my opinion.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm not really talking about comparisons between previous runs either, that is subjective. I'm purely referring to representation within IDWverse. Scourge was my number two choice also. His entire appearance from Heart of Darkness to CHAOS was a complete mess. I ultimately equate it to: They had plans for Cyclonus and eventual plans for Galvatron, Scourge was the odd one out.
My point exactly.Randomhero wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Since we're in the Lost Light thread, my answer will pertain to MTMTE/LL only. And the 2 characters who were most grossly misused were Ultra Magnus and Overlord, in my opinion.
Overlord was never a main character. He was a side story.
Randomhero wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm not really talking about comparisons between previous runs either, that is subjective. I'm purely referring to representation within IDWverse. Scourge was my number two choice also. His entire appearance from Heart of Darkness to CHAOS was a complete mess. I ultimately equate it to: They had plans for Cyclonus and eventual plans for Galvatron, Scourge was the odd one out.
Isn’t that scourge in 99% media? He’s just the lackey of the trio. hHe was in the the cartoon, headmasters, marvel and UK marvel . McCarthy had plans for him but hasbro(not IDW) said no to them.
Randomhero wrote:Isn’t that scourge in 99% media?
ZeroWolf wrote:I think hasbro has changed the definition of the trinity and who they are now as I think it could be prime, bee and megs
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Because I like Scourge and I think someone could really do something different and interesting with him and the Sweeps concept. Which no one has since his debut. Considering how they really reinvented Thunderwing, Arcee etc it is such a missed opportunity to one of the most visually unique Transformers to just say "New IDWverse, same old Scourge".
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I think hasbro has changed the definition of the trinity and who they are now as I think it could be prime, bee and megs
They are not that kind of Trinity, the DC kind. They are a trio of linked characters. Synonymous with each other.
The irony of this image, eh?
Even their concept art was drawn together
ZeroWolf wrote:Quite an ingenious idea and saved them a bit of time. Still, the closest idea I could think of giving scourge a new lease of life is to say that there was only one of him but in an effort to create an immortal spark and body to match, started experimenting on himself. He does have a sort of alchemist look after all. This is how the sweeps came into being as clones he uses to share his mind between. Sort of a transformers ultron in some regard
ZeroWolf wrote:The way you describe his ability makes me think of agent Smith in the matrix reloaded, which could be another concept for the character...or insecticons. Having characters bitten and then slowly having codes rewritten, being re-formatted forcibly.
As for rodimus, I cant sat I was bugged too much about his character. With rodimus I always found it jarring how he was handled in season 3 of the toon compared to the movie
Randomhero wrote:Because there really isn’t much to do with him. dreamwave tried. They introduced him in war and peace and it was “holy crap scourge!? In 2002!? And he’s not affiliated with unicron?!” One year later: NOPE! Spawn of unicron nothing truly special. Sweeps? Nope spawns of unicron
In defense of IDW they did do something different and interesting wth scourge and the sweeps. He’s an ancient cybertronian. Made the sweeps Galvatron a army and none of it was connected with Unicron.
If you’re wanting different they did. Whether you like it or not they did do something different with them.
Randomhero wrote:Their concept and everything is made together the same reason the 86 autobots is. They were the new toys. The only new Decepticons in the movie and the sweeps were just the seekers with a different look. How many seekers popped up in season one? So many genetics. They just decided by the movie to make them identical to save animation costs.
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