First Look at War For Cybertron: Kingdom Deluxe Class Red Alert

He looks good, but for me it's the same as Sideswipe: the Siege version is good enough, the changes aren't big enough to warrant double-dipping. This mold really should have had the spoiler.

Hopefully he'll be as easy as Ratchet and Wreck-Gar were to find for me cause I do enjoy Red Alert's color scheme the most out of all the Sideswipe repaints, plus I think this design will look closer to what I'm looking for in a Red Alert for my Lost Light shelf than Siege's due to the color changes and molding differences

While I didn't replace Universe Sideswipe or Sunstreaker, Red Alert was one I was looking to and the Siege version is just a tad too Cybertronian to do it for me. So count me in on this bandwagon.

I don't know why I like Universe RA less than his mold mates. I have a replacement head for him so it's not that. Hopefully this is easy to get.

Getting him and all other Earth Mode Cybertronians. Bring on Hound.

Already owning Siege Sideswipe and Selects Cordon, my need for Contechs isn't terribly high, but I wouldn't be totally opposed to Red Alert if he looks good enough in the wild. It's just with the figures I already own feel like I have all the different aspects that figure hits ya know

And as a side note, pretty much all of the walgreens exclusives have shown up here in the far north, the only one that hasn't isnt even a TF but a Silver Surfer Marvel Legends figure from a year or so ago

Well, Red Alert looks good, but not very screen (or toy) accurate. I’m not going to fuss about the lack of wheels on the outsides of the shoulders and such, but the color layout could have been better. The shoulders should be black, the forearms and thighs should be white. The red thighs are correct for the original toy, but the helmet is red, like the cartoon, so I think screen accuracy should have been the priority. If it were only the thighs that were red, I could probably write that off as an amalgamation of the cartoon and toy looks, but the arms are just all wrong (except for the red biceps). The missile is at least red, but the shoulder cannon should be white or silver. Black for the cannon is, again, accurate to the G1 toy, but again, with the cartoon accurate head, why not match the cartoon coloring too? I can easily swap out an extra silver-painted cannon to correct that. I might even do the same with the arms, using the Siege release, which are identical parts structurally. They can be disassembled at the bicep swivel cut joint. That won’t fix the shoulders, but it will fix the forearms. However, I’d be sacrificing the actually accurate red biceps. The thighs are unfixable through kitbashing due to all the pins used in the leg assemblies. Kingdom Mirage is a big let down. Sideswipe is nearly perfect. Red Alert falls somewhere in the middle for me.

I think Hasbro and Takara must have used the original MP-14 release of Red Alert, not the “anime colors” MP-14+ version, as their color guide for the Kingdom figure.

The toy looks cool. Every time I see it however, I feel compelled to ask my friend that works for the Sac Metro FD, when his fire chief is getting a Lamborghini .

For all you Canadians out there, I got my Earthrise Bluestreak through EB Games. Once this toy figure either gets officially released by HasTak or just plain starts showing up in the US, I would start calling the nearest EB Games to see if you can pre-order it. If the staff is nice and they happen to have it in-store, they'll probably hold for you, just give them a call.

On another note, i never got SEIGE Red Alert, or Netflix Red Alert, so I'm gonna try and pick up this guy, even if I passed up on Inferno (already had Grapple). I was perfectly fine with the SEIGE Lambo mold, which is why I have both Sideswipe and Deep Cover, but I'll bite on this one if it becomes available here in Canada. Earth-mode is a decent enough slight retool to not make me think its HasTak laziness, so Red Alert will look fine with my other two Lambros.

Emgo reviewed Rhinox last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4hr8r6Nivk


I am sticking with my Thrilling 30's one

I'm intrigued by the idea that I would only need to remove one pin to retool Rhinox into a hippo alt-mode.

I've always wanted a hippo brother for rhinox.

Sculyblast wrote:I'm intrigued by the idea that I would only need to remove one pin to retool Rhinox into a hippo alt-mode.

I've always wanted a hippo brother for rhinox.

Big fan of your thought process
We need a hippo alt mode already! Those things are dangerous af
Hip hop anonymous

As much as I dislike Siege Red Alert its not worth the hassle or [rice to track this down with out it having the effort put into it. On the very slim chance that I find it rally cheap then its a maybe just so that I dont have to keep hiding red alert behind other figures.

Loving that Red Alert. Hopefully non-US Amazon can get it.

Otherwise, its off to BBTS or TFsource and a steep markup.

Is Galvatron’s wave mate Ultra Magnus?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Is Galvatron’s wave mate Ultra Magnus?

I think so...If that is the case, then the Magnus I saw earlier this week at Target (the first leader in months), means I just missed Galvatron...go figure...

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Is Galvatron’s wave mate Ultra Magnus?

I think so...If that is the case, then the Magnus I saw earlier this week at Target (the first leader in months), means I just missed Galvatron...go figure...

Yes he is, based on the 2 that were on the shelf when I found my Galvatron Thursday. That shelf was empty for a month.

As Galvatron is starting to be found in the wild, I'd like to point out that the 'shoulder fix' is truly optional as it is purely cosmetic and does not change the function of the figure or the transformation. Furthermore, with the way the arms become the tank treads, the fix doesn't even affect them.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Is Galvatron’s wave mate Ultra Magnus?

I think so...If that is the case, then the Magnus I saw earlier this week at Target (the first leader in months), means I just missed Galvatron...go figure...

Yes he is, based on the 2 that were on the shelf when I found my Galvatron Thursday. That shelf was empty for a month.

Mine has been empty for 3 months or more. But tonight I stopped in after work and lo and behold there were 3 Magni and 2 Galvatrons, with the bad shoulders (pins in the back?). I'm still not sold on Galvatron, but he looked better in hand than in photos. The crap on the chest still bothers me.

And I noticed the Commander Class slot on the shelf, so I asked the guy to scan it for me for a possible arrival date of the product. He said that the CC is being discontinued in the store, but I can get it online. I'm not sure if this is just regional or company-wide. My Wal-Mart did away with the CC slot after Jetfire, but I got Sky-Lynx at Target. Looks like Rodimus will be an online purchase, if I can get a deal for him.

So, I just learned that the email from Hasbro that initially reassured me about Rodimus Prime's height... was misrepresenting him. The 7.5" figure they gave me was measured from the bloody spoiler and his actual bodily height is only 6.5".

So every last bit of that premium engineering, all those features... All wasted because he's too short. He needed to be on par with Galvatron height-wise. No ifs, ands, or buts. The climactic throwdown scene makes that an absolute necessity, and they blew it. Even with as good as every last other aspect about him is, the height was make-or-break.

And it turns out, the answer was break.

I was so looking forward to him... I hadn't been that hyped for a Transformer in ages... But now because they screwed up that one single but oh-so-important thing....
I'm rather frustrated and bummed.... HasTak are unlikely to correct their obscene design failure at this point, and given how halfassed so many 3P upgrade kits are I don't dare hope for any worthwhile help from that quarter either.

He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

I was already on the fence about Rodimus, but if he's too short against Galvatron, it's a pass. I find emgo fucking annoying (I'm convinced he has some kind of mental deficiency), but I braved his review since I only needed to see the minute-long clip of comparisons, and Rodimus is definitely too small. He should be bigger than Springer and Cyclonus and he isn't. That's not right. I noticed he was the same height as the Optimus figure, which I believe is the guideline they used to design him, but it hinders him. If he was only a head taller, it would work. But as it is, it's a hard pass. I didn't think it was worth $80 before, and it certainly isn't now. The paint apps are really sharp, he looks great otherwise. Just too damn short.

Yes, they set his height by the undersized representation of the guy who spent most of his existence dead, instead of against Galvatron like they should have.
Screw WFC Optimus and the Equinoid he rode in on. Worthless undersized overengineered junk that caused another figure to be underheight.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

1. Wrong timestamp, since 27:00 is just a comparison with SS86 Hot Rod.
2. The relevant comparison just reaffirms the failure: Roddy's head only comes up to the base of Galvatron's neck. Which is no good...

It's very frustrating, because everything else about him is so good.
But all of that's completely undermined by him coming up short next to Galvatron. The scene of Rodimus picking up Galvatron and chucking him into space shows they should be pretty much the same, as do subsequent encounters... So getting this right was an absolute necessity.
It's probably too late for HasTak to fix this colossal failure... And I doubt the 3P dunderheads will turn out a height fix that actually integrates transformably...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

1. Wrong timestamp, since 27:00 is just a comparison with SS86 Hot Rod.
2. The relevant comparison just reaffirms the failure: Roddy's head only comes up to the base of Galvatron's neck. Which is no good...

27:00 is where the comparisons start. It gets to Galvatron like 15 seconds after. And it saves you from having to look through the whole review.

Maybe find/wait for a different Galvatron that's an inch shorter?
Or give Roddie Astrotrains boots or a fossilizer/weaponizer?
Or I guess wait for a new roddie or go 3P, it shouldn't be that much longer before a new one comes out though

Maybe Galvatron is the one that's too tall instead of Roddy being too short? Not that the main bad guy being taller is a problem in my eyes, but Roddy, Optimus, Megatron, and Glvatron should all be about the same height.

Yes. Galvatron is the one who is off. It's possible having him rival Ultra Magnus instead of Rodimus was what they had in mind.

I just did a size comparison: Galvatron is only slightly shorter than Magnus. Remember, both their roles were as City Commander in the original toyline.

i think the height disparity is distracting from the fact that RodPrime is proportionally a LARGER figure then regular RodHot, and in that vain he may appear better along side Galvatron and Optimus.

And I do hope that as more .. thoughtful reviews, pictorial or video, come out y'all will warm up to him, hate to see excited fans miss out on a good figure. Personally, on the merits of the toy itself will still be trying to pick it up, but probably not for 70/80 dollars. Got Jetfire on sale so my hopes are high

If you absolutely doesn't want the thing, you wouldn't have to make random excuses to get it.

If the only reason to not get a toy is a tiny random insignificant detail like it's half an inch "too short", it mean that you want it deep down. So you'll skip, then some months later come to regret it, then see that the only ones available are on the secondary market at double or triple the price.

It happened too many times for me already. So I learned that if I have just one gripe about a toy that I think it's pretty fine and nice overall, I'd better get it.
DOTM Guzzle, Throne of the Primes, and so many other.................

-Kanrabat- wrote:If you absolutely doesn't want the thing, you wouldn't have to make random excuses to get it.

If the only reason to not get a toy is a tiny random insignificant detail like it's half an inch "too short", it mean that you want it deep down. So you'll skip, then some months later come to regret it, then see that the only ones available are on the secondary market at double or triple the price.

It happened too many times for me already. So I learned that if I have just one gripe about a toy that I think it's pretty fine and nice overall, I'd better get it.
DOTM Guzzle, Throne of the Primes, and so many other.................

While I do agree with this sentiment for a good chunk of figures, I think there are other issues with Rodimus (cost, size, sculpt details, and accessories being the most common), plus, at $70-80, if you're hoping for a figure to have one thing (ability to rival Galvatron in height), I think regardless of the other details, if the one thing you wanted most was his height to be equal to his rival, and Rodimus doesn't have that, it's not worth the $70-80.

It's all up to consumers. Personally, I'll probably pick up Rodimus, but I also really like the accessories he comes with, and don't really care whether or not he's in perfect scale. If you were wanting him for scale reasons, and the accessories were an extra that you were probably going to sell, then he's not worth it

I won't be buying Rodimus Prime, and I still think he shouldn't have been this year's Commander. A Leader with a smaller trailer would've worked just fine, even if it has only been three years since Power of the Primes Rodimus. As it is, Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod is good enough for me.

Munkky wrote:I won't be buying Rodimus Prime, and I still think he shouldn't have been this year's Commander. A Leader with a smaller trailer would've worked just fine, even if it has only been three years since Power of the Primes Rodimus. As it is, Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod is good enough for me.

A leader class rodimus Prime would have literally been just ss86 hot rod with a hollow shell of a trailer. The tooling we see in Rodimus Prime here takes him well past the Voyager price point.

I don't mind him being smaller then Galvatron, just makes it more fitting that he comes out on top over Galvy.

Or better yet, just put Rodimus on his gun platform and point the guns at Galvatron and watch your height worries drop away as you imagine the Decepticon being given new ventilation holes.

I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Uhm... a video review showed him to be the same height as TR Galvatron.

aronjlove wrote:As Galvatron is starting to be found in the wild, I'd like to point out that the 'shoulder fix' is truly optional as it is purely cosmetic and does not change the function of the figure or the transformation. Furthermore, with the way the arms become the tank treads, the fix doesn't even affect them.

I tried to do the fix and stopped, I don't want to risk stress marks or cracks (there is a youtube vid I was following). It is not an easy fix at all but a quicker fix if you want the arms looking correctly is just turn the shoulders around, only thing this does is when he is in bot mode you have nothing to lock the treads into behind the arms.

Besides that I am digging Galvatron.

Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

No, assortment-based products (pretty much all action figures and the like) are not available for in-store pick-up, or anything of that nature because the company has no way to track which stores have which figures specifically. Usually the site will just say "check your local store" and "inventory may vary", things like that

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

No, assortment-based products (pretty much all action figures and the like) are not available for in-store pick-up, or anything of that nature because the company has no way to track which stores have which figures specifically. Usually the site will just say "check your local store" and "inventory may vary", things like that

^^^^This.

But I would clarify, occasionally when Walmart/Target do have an option to pick up in store it is likely at a future date and would be actually shipped to your store from the online warehouse and not come from your stores stock.

Picked up Inferno at Target

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Uhm... a video review showed him to be the same height as TR Galvatron.

What does that have to do with WFC Voyagers and him being bigger than WFC Voyager Cyclonus? If he was the same size as as Rodimus (and Megatron and Optimus) he'd be properly shorter than Cyclonus.

This looks right.


This looks wrong.


Emerje

Yup. As far as "pure G1" is concerned, Kingdom Galvatron is the one who is too big.

However, if we can set the WFC figures in their own universe (à la Netflix) it work. Especially when the villain is supposed to be the ultimate hurdle to jump over for the hero.

Emerje wrote:
This looks wrong.

Galvatron.JPG

Emerje

No kidding it looks wrong. That Galvatron needs his shoulders fixed!

It is worth noting, though, that Galvatron is standing closer to the camera in that picture, so his height difference is being exaggerated. You can tell when you look at the feet that something is up with the angle of view.

It's all a matter of opinion.

In my opinion leaders should be slightly taller and larger than subordinates, except in certain cases like Titans or combiners. So I think Galvatron bring bigger than Cyclonus is fine. It's Rodimus and Prime (and even Shockwave and Megatron) who are a bit too short.

I've solved it!!!!

Galvatron's height is wrong, and the shoulder mis-assembly is intentional because it then puts at least the shoulders at the correct scale with Rodimus prime and the rest of WFC.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I've solved it!!!!

Galvatron's height is wrong, and the shoulder mis-assembly is intentional because it then puts at least the shoulders at the correct scale with Rodimus prime and the rest of WFC.

So in your own facetious way you're saying Galvatron's head is too big?
But he's a Decepticon leader, so that would be very unlikely.

Also, 1 thing I saw in a Rodimus review that I think is a neat feature is that he can attach the cannon from his battle platform onto his back. Makes him hella top heavy, but it looks cool.

Just jammin'

transformers_va wrote:

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Just jammin'

NICE!

That works perfectly.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Is Galvatron’s wave mate Ultra Magnus?

Yes, he is.

As far as Galvatron's size, I think they were trying to split the difference between Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus.

FOOLS! GALVATRON CAN BE ANY SIZE HE WANTS!

Sabrblade wrote:FOOLS! GALVATRON CAN BE ANY SIZE HE WANTS!

Absolutely