First Look at Transformers Velocitron Crasher (Go Bot)

Well, that's one less bot on my want list. I was REALLY hoping for a retool of PotP Jazz, which was probably a pipe dream anyway, given the "mass-shifting" we're seeing in toys these days.

Man seeing those alt mode pics makes me nostalgic for the 07 movie crasher. Now that was a figure that made the classics mirage mold work. This new one is looks pretty good as well, if legit

ZeroWolf wrote:Man seeing those alt mode pics makes me nostalgic for the 07 movie crasher. Now that was a figure that made the classics mirage mold work. This new one is looks pretty good as well, if legit

Haha, I felt the same thing

Crasher... Yes please

I’m a huge huge gobots fan. When action toys started up machine robo I grabbed my Cy-kill do. I’ve been waiting for a crashed for a while. Got really excited for the news of her being released. Never been a huge fan of the racer body for her. It’s acceptable for now but that head sculpt? Not crasher. As someone else pointed out potp jazz was the perfect retool body. Why not just go there? Sculpt a beautiful new head and just keep the rest literally the same. I’d buy that version no questions asked. This however I’ll get but I already know I’m gonna paint pupils in the eyes. I guess for now it’s an actual branded crasher. Here’s hoping one day we get an actual amazing third party figure. Definitely disappointed in this mirage repaint body. Time to overhaul the go-bots.

While I understand the want for Crasher from PotP Jazz as I made one myself from Stepper, I still think a Dragstrip retool would've been perfect. The way the parts line up on the chest and their placement on the alt mode as well as the front scoop being just a small retool away from going behind the head, it would've worked so well. Far better than any version of WFC Mirage would've been.

And again, the fact that Dragstrip is a combiner piece doesn't matter as it's barely noticeable. Nothing with the mold is sacrificed for the combining aspect. Not that I would care anyway in the case of Hasbro using PotP Jazz. With Jazz though, it's more to the effect that the mold kind of sucks compared to so many other CW/PotP limbs. Yeah a retool of Jazz would look amazing but since you're retooling the mold anyway to get flip the front and back, why not just put that same retool budget into a better base mold like Dragstrip to get the same effect. The front scoop is so close to working as it is. Seriously, pop them off the shoulders and put them behind the head. They fit perfectly in between the shoulder wheels and don't limit articulation. Not that the second set of wheels would be there though as those would be retooled away.

Just retool the front scoop to move down and back behind the head. Retool the front wheels so there's only one set. Retool the cockpit to not be open. And then retool the spoiler. Maybe retool the engine too I guess.

It's not like I won't get this if it is indeed what's being released though. I just think that it's a letdown.

Grahf_ wrote:While I understand the want for Crasher from PotP Jazz as I made one myself from Stepper, I still think a Dragstrip retool would've been perfect. The way the parts line up on the chest and their placement on the alt mode as well as the front scoop being just a small retool away from going behind the head, it would've worked so well. Far better than any version of WFC Mirage would've been.

And again, the fact that Dragstrip is a combiner piece doesn't matter as it's barely noticeable. Nothing with the mold is sacrificed for the combining aspect. Not that I would care anyway in the case of Hasbro using PotP Jazz. With Jazz though, it's more to the effect that the mold kind of sucks compared to so many other CW/PotP limbs. Yeah a retool of Jazz would look amazing but since you're retooling the mold anyway to get flip the front and back, why not just put that same retool budget into a better base mold like Dragstrip to get the same effect. The front scoop is so close to working as it is. Seriously, pop them off the shoulders and put them behind the head. They fit perfectly in between the shoulder wheels and don't limit articulation. Not that the second set of wheels would be there though as those would be retooled away.

Just retool the front scoop to move down and back behind the head. Retool the front wheels so there's only one set. Retool the cockpit to not be open. And then retool the spoiler. Maybe retool the engine too I guess.

It's not like I won't get this if it is indeed what's being released though. I just think that it's a letdown.

A retool would be more expensive then what this is (a redeco with a previously used mirage head)

Yeah, "this mold would be perfect if they changed almost every part" isn't that compelling an argument.

Think I'm sticking with Fracture. would have picked it up if it was a potp jazz reuse

Grahf_ wrote:While I understand the want for Crasher from PotP Jazz as I made one myself from Stepper, I still think a Dragstrip retool would've been perfect. The way the parts line up on the chest and their placement on the alt mode as well as the front scoop being just a small retool away from going behind the head, it would've worked so well. Far better than any version of WFC Mirage would've been.

And again, the fact that Dragstrip is a combiner piece doesn't matter as it's barely noticeable. Nothing with the mold is sacrificed for the combining aspect. Not that I would care anyway in the case of Hasbro using PotP Jazz. With Jazz though, it's more to the effect that the mold kind of sucks compared to so many other CW/PotP limbs. Yeah a retool of Jazz would look amazing but since you're retooling the mold anyway to get flip the front and back, why not just put that same retool budget into a better base mold like Dragstrip to get the same effect. The front scoop is so close to working as it is. Seriously, pop them off the shoulders and put them behind the head. They fit perfectly in between the shoulder wheels and don't limit articulation. Not that the second set of wheels would be there though as those would be retooled away.

Just retool the front scoop to move down and back behind the head. Retool the front wheels so there's only one set. Retool the cockpit to not be open. And then retool the spoiler. Maybe retool the engine too I guess.

It's not like I won't get this if it is indeed what's being released though. I just think that it's a letdown.

The Mirage repaint with new face is perfect for crasher, no other mold would do it proper justice.
I have the POTP Jazz and looking at him it just doesn't fit for the bot mode, I can kind of see with the alt mode but the upcoming racecar mode is more sleek. Ill take what we are getting any day.

Actual Crasher images
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TRMtWvqqI-k/maxresdefault.jpg

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/ ... rasher.jpg

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0758/ ... 1545495626

I also have her as Decepticon Fracture the generations mirage repaint and that is closer than the Jazz.

I'm not saying that it would be cheap. I'm going back to things that were said when this was first leaked. People were going on about retooling PotP Jazz since the alt mode was already the correct one. But since they also said to retool the entire top and front of the vehicle mode as well as the arms to get the proper robot mode look, you might as well just use a better mold to begin with like Legacy Dragstrip. It's not like half of the things I said even needed to be done when you compare to the nothing that was done to Mirage. Assuming that this is what we're getting. The shapes of the parts and their placement are already there as it is, so really only the front scoop retool would be all that's needed to complete the look. The rest would just be extra but not necessary.

I also talked about the budget. They were going to retool a good amount of Origins Bumblebee to get Cosmos but they managed to work within the budget to make him a new figure entirely. So there is a budget set aside to work on either retools or new molds outright. The fist Velocitron line had enough budget for two new molds (one voyager and one deluxe) and an extensive retool of another deluxe besides the three new heads. Two of the three heads should already have been designed and on the sprues already though with possibly Hauler's being new entirely. So why would I think that this line wouldn't have a similar budget? With the figures that were leaked so far, it doesn't seem that the budget is being stretched yet at all. So why not spend some of it on Crasher? They could be using some of it for Shadow Striker but we just don't know yet as only three names have been leaked so far.

And yeah, it's not like people did this exact same thing when Override was first leaked saying that SS86 Hot Rod would be perfect if they just retooled everything. Oh wait, they did.

Grahf_ wrote:I'm not saying that it would be cheap. I'm going back to things that were said when this was first leaked. People were going on about retooling PotP Jazz since the alt mode was already the correct one. But since they also said to retool the entire top and front of the vehicle mode as well as the arms to get the proper robot mode look, you might as well just use a better mold to begin with like Legacy Dragstrip. It's not like half of the things I said even needed to be done when you compare to the nothing that was done to Mirage. Assuming that this is what we're getting. The shapes of the parts and their placement are already there as it is, so really only the front scoop retool would be all that's needed to complete the look. The rest would just be extra but not necessary.

I also talked about the budget. They were going to retool a good amount of Origins Bumblebee to get Cosmos but they managed to work within the budget to make him a new figure entirely. So there is a budget set aside to work on either retools or new molds outright. The fist Velocitron line had enough budget for two new molds (one voyager and one deluxe) and an extensive retool of another deluxe besides the three new heads. Two of the three heads should already have been designed and on the sprues already though with possibly Hauler's being new entirely. So why would I think that this line wouldn't have a similar budget? With the figures that were leaked so far, it doesn't seem that the budget is being stretched yet at all. So why not spend some of it on Crasher? They could be using some of it for Shadow Striker but we just don't know yet as only three names have been leaked so far.

And yeah, it's not like people did this exact same thing when Override was first leaked saying that SS86 Hot Rod would be perfect if they just retooled everything. Oh wait, they did.

I am one of the few that said that they should use the kingdom mirage mold as soon as the leak about the toy came out. I even said it on reddit and some douche replied that I was stupid and it wouldn't happen that they would use the POTP jazz mold. Now that guy really looks like the dick bag he truly is.

That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

They would never have used the POTP mold. This toy isn't just a reference to the Gobot but to Hasbro's Transformers Crasher so Mirage was what most people guessed (rightfully).

RiddlerJ wrote:That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

The toy-accurate Holo Mirage head is the closest to being circular and the most similar to Crasher's cartoon head design. Yes, it may require some squinting, but that's Hasbro for you: if it works even remotely, it works.

I have noticed that all the black on this Crasher is paint. While that doesn't necessarily make this a hoax, it does seem only white and grey plastic is used.

RiddlerJ wrote:That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

I'll most likely paint her "lips" red like I did on the Generations Fracture/crasher to see if that helps. I do agree about head, well the face as if you look at the original crashers toon her head resembled mirage in a way, maybe if they gave her a sinister female face it may have been better.

The current face looks too... Happy?

I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

I wonder if they'll put "GoBot Universe" on the package

AcademyofDrX wrote:I wonder if they'll put "GoBot Universe" on the package

That would be a thing, wouldn't it? Or just "Decepticon Fracture" after the Movie toy to be extra safe in having at least a (legal) base toy.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

The original was a Ligier JS11 race car, I have been searching around to see if there were any noted legal issues with them using that exact style car.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

The original was a Ligier JS11 race car, I have been searching around to see if there were any noted legal issues with them using that exact style car.

I'm not sure Ligier is an active company or brand anymore. I'm holding out hope that Hasbro legal permits future Mirage toys to more closely resemble the original, but Siege is fine for now.

RiddlerJ wrote:That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

I agree, I don't like that head at all. If they were going to make a new head, why not make it good.

Rodimus Knight wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

I agree, I don't like that head at all. If they were going to make a new head, why not make it good.

It's not a new head. It's the toy-accurate Holo-Mirage head.

I'm really happy with how this looks honestly, I'm assuming this was probably the closest race-car mold out of recent releases that both fits a race-car bot like Crasher and isn't required to be a combiner. (Hasbro probably didn't want to confuse kids by using the Dragstrip mold since there'd be no "dedicated" combiner for it... and the whole Combiner Wars gimmick is long gone so I don't know why PotP Jazz would've been a candidate at all. Especially considering all the fragility issues people reported, I think it was for the best that they didn't use PotP Jazz.)

As much as it requires a lot of squinting, I think it was a clever reuse of the Holo Mirage head for Crasher since it more or less has the same shape as her 'toon noggin.
Still gonna be a nice Decepticon rank filler much like the Decepticon redeco of Mirage was.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

The original was a Ligier JS11 race car, I have been searching around to see if there were any noted legal issues with them using that exact style car.

I'm not sure Ligier is an active company or brand anymore. I'm holding out hope that Hasbro legal permits future Mirage toys to more closely resemble the original, but Siege is fine for now.

They're still active: Ligier Automobiles. Even if it had gone bankrupt, another company would buy the designs and take over copyrights.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

The original was a Ligier JS11 race car, I have been searching around to see if there were any noted legal issues with them using that exact style car.

I'm not sure Ligier is an active company or brand anymore. I'm holding out hope that Hasbro legal permits future Mirage toys to more closely resemble the original, but Siege is fine for now.

They're still active: Ligier Automobiles. Even if it had gone bankrupt, another company would buy the designs and take over copyrights.

I'm not sure the associated IP has all that much long-term value, but I guess someone would probably buy it.

Those colors on that head mold REALLY bring out the "I am constipated and suffering" expression on that face!

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:They're still active: Ligier Automobiles. Even if it had gone bankrupt, another company would buy the designs and take over copyrights.

Thank you for that clarification.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:That head doesn't work at all for Crasher

I agree, I don't like that head at all. If they were going to make a new head, why not make it good.

It's not a new head. It's the toy-accurate Holo-Mirage head.

either way, while the colors are nice, that head does not look that good with this coloration or character

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I, I don't think I like it. That Earthrise Mirage mold didn't feel good to me, and neither did the Siege one, and this just seems off. There might be some legalities over doing a more toy-accurate car mold, I still might go for it.

The original was a Ligier JS11 race car, I have been searching around to see if there were any noted legal issues with them using that exact style car.

I'm not sure Ligier is an active company or brand anymore. I'm holding out hope that Hasbro legal permits future Mirage toys to more closely resemble the original, but Siege is fine for now.

They're still active: Ligier Automobiles. Even if it had gone bankrupt, another company would buy the designs and take over copyrights.

I'm not sure the associated IP has all that much long-term value, but I guess someone would probably buy it.

Someone would have to, just to end the auction. It would just sit there and wait for an opportunity to turn a profit either by selling it off again or licensing it, whichever is better in the long run. That's the hardest part of economics: patience.

I think Crasher looks great ... except I'd really like to see her with a more Cartoon accurate head. Does Hasbro own the rights to the cartoon likenesses? Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book? I could care less about Go-Bots toy accuracy ... but Go-Bots cartoon accuracy would be amazing. One day!

This reminds me that I need to do those 2007 Classics/Cybertron galleries still after all these years. Plus I think I'm going to sell what Go-Bots I have. I keep thinking I'll have time to do their galleries, but I never do plus I don't think I want to own Go-Bots also (though it'd be a limited collection and I own most of the key characters already). Decisions, decisions.

The galleries that never made from 2011!

Seibertron wrote:I think Crasher looks great ... except I'd really like to see her with a more Cartoon accurate head. Does Hasbro own the rights to the cartoon likenesses? Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book? I could care less about Go-Bots toy accuracy ... but Go-Bots cartoon accuracy would be amazing. One day!

This reminds me that I need to do those 2007 Classics/Cybertron galleries still after all these years. Plus I think I'm going to sell what Go-Bots I have. I keep thinking I'll have time to do their galleries, but I never do plus I don't think I want to own Go-Bots also (though it'd be a limited collection and I own most of the key characters already). Decisions, decisions.

The galleries that never made from 2011!

It would be pretty cool to see Go-Bots galleries honestly.

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

That's interesting since Hasbro doesn't have the rights to the toys.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

That's interesting since Hasbro doesn't have the rights to the toys.

I'm straight up calling this an urban legend at this point. Just because it's on TFWiki doesn't mean it's true. Generally speaking, toy designs are not protected by copyright, and the patents for the original toys expired decades ago.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

Silver face with no five o'clock shadow for Cy-Kill, mouthplated eye-less face for Leader-1, visored mouthplated face for Crasher, etc.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

There is definitely a distinction between the toy designs and the cartoon designs. Hasbro owns the Go-Bots brand and I think their fictional likenesses, but not the physical toy forms which Bandai owns. It's my understanding that Hasbro could make a silver jet Transformers toy with a cartoon accurate Leader-1 head but couldn't make an homage to a 1980s toy accurate Leader-1. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! It was always my understanding that they could homage the originals or the cartoon versions but not the toys.

I'm assuming artwork in a comic book falls under different copyright laws. Maybe Hasbro has a right to how they look as toys as well in art form but not in toy form? Or based on what Sabrblade said above, perhaps the designs were changed enough to get by.

Seibertron wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

There is definitely a distinction between the toy designs and the cartoon designs. Hasbro owns the Go-Bots brand and I think their fictional likenesses, but not the physical toy forms which Bandai owns. It's my understanding that Hasbro could make a silver jet Transformers toy with a cartoon accurate Leader-1 head but couldn't make an homage to a 1980s toy accurate Leader-1. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! It was always my understanding that they could homage the originals or the cartoon versions but not the toys.

I'm assuming artwork in a comic book falls under different copyright laws. Maybe Hasbro has a right to how they look as toys as well in art form but not in toy form? Or based on what Sabrblade said above, perhaps the designs were changed enough to get by.

I want to be clear that I'm not a lawyer and have no insider knowledge, but I've read as much on this topic as humanly possible short of going into IP law. There are certainly basic cosmetic differences between the cartoon and toy characters, but not enough that one would be permissible and the other infringing. The idea that Bandai owns something related to possible toys that Hasbro doesn't isn't supported by any law. I'll dig up old posts and elaborate, but the core of the argument is that intellectual property for media and for utility objects like toys are very different.

I'd love to see GoBot galleries here. It would be something unexpected. But I guess there are bigger fish to fry.

This version of Crasher ... I don't like it? I mean, I'm glad they remember her and it'd be great if she becomes a regular Decepticon troop, but that head just ruins it. It doesn't even look right in terms of color placement. So I'm good with Fracture.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

There is definitely a distinction between the toy designs and the cartoon designs. Hasbro owns the Go-Bots brand and I think their fictional likenesses, but not the physical toy forms which Bandai owns. It's my understanding that Hasbro could make a silver jet Transformers toy with a cartoon accurate Leader-1 head but couldn't make an homage to a 1980s toy accurate Leader-1. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! It was always my understanding that they could homage the originals or the cartoon versions but not the toys.

I'm assuming artwork in a comic book falls under different copyright laws. Maybe Hasbro has a right to how they look as toys as well in art form but not in toy form? Or based on what Sabrblade said above, perhaps the designs were changed enough to get by.

I want to be clear that I'm not a lawyer and have no insider knowledge, but I've read as much on this topic as humanly possible short of going into IP law. There are certainly basic cosmetic differences between the cartoon and toy characters, but not enough that one would be permissible and the other infringing. The idea that Bandai owns something related to possible toys that Hasbro doesn't isn't supported by any law. I'll dig up old posts and elaborate, but the core of the argument is that intellectual property for media and for utility objects like toys are very different.

The comic using the toy designs is interesting... If anything is to be understood concerning law, it's not so much on what is actually allowed and what isn't, but how it can be interpreted to allow such and such to actually be legal, despite the law on first glance saying it shouldn't be, and vice versa. That's why we have lawyers

I went long on this in a post at TFW back in the fall:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19574786

I wish I'd saved more of the research I did, there was a post on Allspark from Jim Sorenson many years ago where he said, in his opinion, that business strategic reasons were the bigger factor in Hasbro's treatment of the GoBot brand than legal risks.

All of this is my opinion and interpretation, so I can't promise anything, and everyone is free to disagree with me. The other side of it is, once I really started to get into understanding IP, it didn't just help me understand things like GoBots but also helped me make sense of the 3P scene and why it works the way it does.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Didn't they use them in the IDW Go-Bots comic book?

The IDW comic used toy-accurate designs instead.

There is no meaningful distinction between those two things

There is definitely a distinction between the toy designs and the cartoon designs. Hasbro owns the Go-Bots brand and I think their fictional likenesses, but not the physical toy forms which Bandai owns. It's my understanding that Hasbro could make a silver jet Transformers toy with a cartoon accurate Leader-1 head but couldn't make an homage to a 1980s toy accurate Leader-1. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! It was always my understanding that they could homage the originals or the cartoon versions but not the toys.

I'm assuming artwork in a comic book falls under different copyright laws. Maybe Hasbro has a right to how they look as toys as well in art form but not in toy form? Or based on what Sabrblade said above, perhaps the designs were changed enough to get by.

I want to be clear that I'm not a lawyer and have no insider knowledge, but I've read as much on this topic as humanly possible short of going into IP law. There are certainly basic cosmetic differences between the cartoon and toy characters, but not enough that one would be permissible and the other infringing. The idea that Bandai owns something related to possible toys that Hasbro doesn't isn't supported by any law. I'll dig up old posts and elaborate, but the core of the argument is that intellectual property for media and for utility objects like toys are very different.

The comic using the toy designs is interesting... If anything is to be understood concerning law, it's not so much on what is actually allowed and what isn't, but how it can be interpreted to allow such and such to actually be legal, despite the law on first glance saying it shouldn't be, and vice versa. That's why we have lawyers

A big principle of law and life is that you can do what you want as long as you accept the consequences. In potential IP disputes, that can cut both ways, because you might not do something you have the legal authority to do if it might create some harm. Put another way, having a right doesn't mean you won't get sued, and sometimes it's not worth fighting even if you'd win. I don't think anyone would go to court over silver face paint or a particular racecar body, but you never can tell.

I'll probably buy Crasher, but I really don't like it. The colors are the only thing going for it. Bot mode doesn't look anything like her. She did not turn into an F1 race car like Mirage and Dragstrip, she's a sports race car, they're entirely different things. PotP Jazz is based on the exact same Porsche model as Crasher and in bot mode it's similar to Crasher, but backwards. This a case where I think Crasher would have been better suited for a new mold that they could then use later for Deluge.

ZeroWolf wrote:A retool would be more expensive then what this is (a redeco with a previously used mirage head)

It's hard to curb expectations for this line when wave 1 gave us two new molds.

Emerje

I still like that new Crasher.

For me, the old Classic repaint is the female crasher, and that new one is the gender-swapped, r63 male crasher.

Both will look fantastic together.... if I'm ever able to get the damn thing.

What a thoroughly dialled-in and disappointing effort from Hasblo. It should have been the POTP Jazz mold but failing that, at least a remolded head, FG's sake...

I'll stick with the semi-Bayverse version.

It should be pointed out that the only way Crasher was going to get a heavy retool/new mold was if Takara took an interest like with Overdrive and Cosmos. But for whatever reason they didn't.

And also, I only ever thought this would be the outcome (allowing for a pleasant surprise if wrong).

NEXT!!!!

ZeroWolf wrote:It should be pointed out that the only way Crasher was going to get a heavy retool/new mold was if Takara took an interest like with Overdrive and Cosmos. But for whatever reason they didn't.

Probably be hard to do right without obvious comparisons to the original Bandai Machine Robo figure, same reason why Takara Tomy shies away from G1 Deluxe Insecticons (as in the group not the price point).

Emerje

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