First Look at Transformers Legacy Velocitron Road Hauler

ZeroWolf wrote:What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

Emerje wrote:From what we can see she seems like a bit of a rip off. There's nothing about the figure that really looks like it needs to be sold as a Voyager. With Hot Rod he's got a high level of engineering and still came with a bunch of accessories to pad the price. Override just looks like a Deluxe. She still has visibly hollow arms, doesn't seem all that complex, and we haven't seen any signs of extra accessories. So what exactly are we paying extra for that makes her more worthy of being a Voyager on her own than Hot Rod?

Emerje

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

We don't have to speculate, it was in the Wreckers: Tread and Circuits miniseries. Take a look, it's in a book!

Munkky wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about that packaging, it's nice that they incorporated the Velocitron logo, but I don't like the nae "Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection", and the lettering makes it look like a dollar store bootleg toy. Either way, I'll definitely be buying Override.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

Gearslide wrote:I like the idea of having that head, but not being in a dynamic pose.

It's going to be a real look of Dull Surprise.

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Hunh...didn't notice on Override, but the packaging ia designed to be pegged, not shelved (shelfed? Naw, shelved)

I wonder why the change?

Also, not sure why I'm even bringing it up...

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the claw on Hauler has been retooled as well, something is going on with it since it can attach over the hand nozzle.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

Judging from the box art for Hauler and Override it's actually a foot race.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

I don't want those little guys, they only ever made the previous voyager figures even more expensive.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

I don't want those little guys, they only ever made the previous voyager figures even more expensive.

What they did with Stud Ser Hot Rod and Earthrise Prime is fine I guess, but for things like Override it is just plain stupid and unfair.

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the claw on Hauler has been retooled as well, something is going on with it since it can attach over the hand nozzle.

I'm pretty sure there's a peg in the claw that would allow for the nozzle/blaster/missile would peg into, even if I've never displayed it that way. I'll look at it when I get home.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the claw on Hauler has been retooled as well, something is going on with it since it can attach over the hand nozzle.

I'm pretty sure there's a peg in the claw that would allow for the nozzle/blaster/missile would peg into, even if I've never displayed it that way. I'll look at it when I get home.

Grapple's claw has an Airlock base connector, not a port, based on everything I've seen of it online.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

No.

Lore Keeper wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

No.

Is there a difference between orange Hauler and Grapple? Seems like it would be the exact same toy to me.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

No.

Is there a difference between orange Hauler and Grapple? Seems like it would be the exact same toy to me.

I think we need to see a digibash of Hauler, how else could we know

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

I don't want those little guys, they only ever made the previous voyager figures even more expensive.

What they did with Stud Ser Hot Rod and Earthrise Prime is fine I guess, but for things like Override it is just plain stupid and unfair.

Not much else they could do if she went over budget for Deluxe.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

No.

Is there a difference between orange Hauler and Grapple? Seems like it would be the exact same toy to me.

I think we need to see a digibash of Hauler, how else could we know

Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Grapple Gallery



New screaming head sculpt as said in the story, but still the Grapple cartoon head design. Otherwise, no new parts outside of the claw.

MaximalNui wrote:

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

Judging from the box art for Hauler and Override it's actually a foot race.

Emerje

Racetrack repairs? Demolition derby-esque competitions (I don't know sports and even less of motor sports)? Part of the non-racing minority established by the two IDW continuities so Knock Out could keep his buddy Breakdown?

Though we all know the real reason: easy repaint/remold which showed up in a recent comic. Still, I have to wonder what kinda logic Hasbro is working on that Sunstorm is too obscure to release a toy but (Road) Hauler is A-OK.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.

No.

Is there a difference between orange Hauler and Grapple? Seems like it would be the exact same toy to me.

I think we need to see a digibash of Hauler, how else could we know

Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Grapple Gallery



New screaming head sculpt as said in the story, but still the Grapple cartoon head design. Otherwise, no new parts outside of the claw.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:I like the way you think, with Hauler using the Inferno head.

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

I don't want those little guys, they only ever made the previous voyager figures even more expensive.

What they did with Stud Ser Hot Rod and Earthrise Prime is fine I guess, but for things like Override it is just plain stupid and unfair.

Not much else they could do if she went over budget for Deluxe.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Does seem weird that the voyagers don't have ikkle guys with them like the netflix line. Hasbro overcharging for deluxes aint anything new, theyve done it before and been praised for it so dont see any difference for Override.

I don't want those little guys, they only ever made the previous voyager figures even more expensive.

What they did with Stud Ser Hot Rod and Earthrise Prime is fine I guess, but for things like Override it is just plain stupid and unfair.

Not much else they could do if she went over budget for Deluxe.

Nothing they can do about the figure itself, but there's stuff they can do about the price point by adding a bunch of extra stuff to make it feel worth the higher price. Or, you know, more paint since it's missing a lot of apps from the original figure.

To me this feels more like Hasbro knew they were probably only going to use this mold once (I doubt it'll get a GTS repaint) and being a store exclusive they needed to maximize their profit from its exclusive use.

Emerje

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:She's got noticeably more meat on her than Hot Rod (who trade size for engineering).

sol magnus wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:She's got noticeably more meat on her than Hot Rod (who trade size for engineering).

He traded size for scale, not 'engineering.'

AcademyofDrX wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:She's got noticeably more meat on her than Hot Rod (who trade size for engineering).

He traded size for scale, not 'engineering.'

Trading size for scale doesn't explain why he's a Voyager, the engineering does. In the case of Override, the question is why she's being sold as a Voyager when the engineering and part count don't match Hot Rod. Emerje's theory of limited mold reuse on a retailer exclusive is a good one.

People are finally accepting now, more or less, that size class doesn't directly relate to the size of the toy. We're all still struggling with the right now conceptual model. Profit margins, product variation, and shelf space considerations are manufacturer and retailer considerations, rather than consumer-centric, so even if they're true, they're harder to know and validate.

Is it worth the money? That's always the question regardless of class, everyone has to figure that out for themselves.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:She's got noticeably more meat on her than Hot Rod (who trade size for engineering).

He traded size for scale, not 'engineering.'

Trading size for scale doesn't explain why he's a Voyager, the engineering does. In the case of Override, the question is why she's being sold as a Voyager when the engineering and part count don't match Hot Rod. Emerje's theory of limited mold reuse on a retailer exclusive is a good one.

People are finally accepting now, more or less, that size class doesn't directly relate to the size of the toy. We're all still struggling with the right now conceptual model. Profit margins, product variation, and shelf space considerations are manufacturer and retailer considerations, rather than consumer-centric, so even if they're true, they're harder to know and validate.

Is it worth the money? That's always the question regardless of class, everyone has to figure that out for themselves.

sol magnus wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:She's got noticeably more meat on her than Hot Rod (who trade size for engineering).

He traded size for scale, not 'engineering.'

Trading size for scale doesn't explain why he's a Voyager, the engineering does. In the case of Override, the question is why she's being sold as a Voyager when the engineering and part count don't match Hot Rod. Emerje's theory of limited mold reuse on a retailer exclusive is a good one.

People are finally accepting now, more or less, that size class doesn't directly relate to the size of the toy. We're all still struggling with the right now conceptual model. Profit margins, product variation, and shelf space considerations are manufacturer and retailer considerations, rather than consumer-centric, so even if they're true, they're harder to know and validate.

Is it worth the money? That's always the question regardless of class, everyone has to figure that out for themselves.

I agree, but the direct engineering for size 'trade' isn't accurate. They could have made him the same size as the PotP Hot Rod, but he would have been out of scale. It's not correct to say they shrunk him for the sake of engineering when they're doing these figures in 'scale.'

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:My only complaint with her is the front half of her car mode ending up so much wider than the rear. I blame the waist swivel.

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:My only complaint with her is the front half of her car mode ending up so much wider than the rear. I blame the waist swivel.

What would the waist swivel have to do with that? I think the car proportions are more a product of trying to give her bot mode more accurate proportions.