First Look at Studio Series 86 Wheelie
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Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:36am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:39am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:40am CDT
I wonder if it will be compatible with SS86 Grimlock with the same peg holes on the legs?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:52am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:55am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?
They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something
Someone else can probably recall better than me
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:57am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?
They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something
Someone else can probably recall better than me
Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:57am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:This Wheelie I'll have to get.
I wonder if it will be compatible with SS86 Grimlock with the same peg holes on the legs?
My thoughts exactly! I don't see the same pegs/holes, but that could be because of the bad image.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 10:03am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?
They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something
Someone else can probably recall better than me
Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?
I was wondering the same, though I'm not sure they'd go for it
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2022 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on July 13th, 2022 @ 10:55am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?
They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something
Someone else can probably recall better than me
There's no better recall than that. That's what they said.
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:03am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?
They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something
Someone else can probably recall better than me
Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?
How would it be any different from Spike?
Anyways, I find it's kinds of crazy that Wheelie gets this many figures. And unlike other toys, like Perceptor where it's incrementally getting to the show accurate not headmaster version, we already had a G1 accurate Wheelie in TR. With this release we now have 3 different molds for G1 accurate Wheelies in the same scale released in the past few years, two of them transforming, and all in mainline releases. All the while, Optimus Prime himself is stuck using the same base mold for 4 mainlines in a row, even though it gives him vestigial parts.
While I get the fiddliness of TR Wheelie, I will keep that toy over this one. I really like the clear plastic window and the fact that someone can actually ride in him. They really went above and beyond for that little toy
Posted by Till-all-R1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:05am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:11am CDT
But this is it for Wheelie for me. Last one.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:18am CDT
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?
How would it be any different from Spike?
That's what I thought, as writing. That's why I opted for "retool (ish)". As a smaller human head would be all I could think of to separate the two.
A friend of mine bought the upgrade kit for Grimlock & Wheelie. So it will be interesting to compare that Wheelie 2.0 to this upcoming Core Class one.
But, yeah. That is a lot of effort over the last few years. For arguably the worst '86 Movie character.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:49am CDT
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 12:36pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 13th, 2022 @ 12:42pm CDT
Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 12:45pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll be sticking to my TR and Legends Wheelie. Chest may be better on the ss86 but those lower wheel arms are ugly and can't beat a toy that can fit titan master Daniel to ride in him.
Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.
Tr wheelie looks great, and was the best version before this new one. I'd stick with tr if I already had it, seeing what an insignificant charecter Wheelie really is.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 13th, 2022 @ 12:49pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll be sticking to my TR and Legends Wheelie. Chest may be better on the ss86 but those lower wheel arms are ugly and can't beat a toy that can fit titan master Daniel to ride in him.
Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.
The tabs on my TR copy are too thick to properly transform him into alt-mode, which I thought was a universal problem with the mold. I was really happy with that figure at the time and plan to hold onto him, but this still looks like it'll be an upgrade for me, but then I don't have the Legends deco.
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 13th, 2022 @ 1:06pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Tr wheelie looks great, and was the best version before this new one. I'd stick with tr if I already had it, seeing what an insignificant charecter Wheelie really is.
He was great in headmasters....ok...maybe not, but he was kind of a main character...oh wait that's still not a good thing. But even then compared to the humping robot version in baynus...poor wheelie.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 1:10pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Tr wheelie looks great, and was the best version before this new one. I'd stick with tr if I already had it, seeing what an insignificant charecter Wheelie really is.
He was great in headmasters....ok...maybe not, but he was kind of a main character...oh wait that's still not a good thing. But even then compared to the humping robot version in baynus...poor wheelie.
I see Wheelie could hold potential as a charecter. But the main problem is he really doesn't do...anything. aside from helping Grimlock once in the movie, and we dont even now what he was doing or how he got to Quintessa.
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2022 @ 1:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2022 @ 1:37pm CDT
I guess they really wanna recreate the TFTM scenes of him climbing and riding on the Dinobots.o.supreme wrote:So Bumblebee and the other "minibots" are getting upgraded from legends/core figures in previous years, to deluxe within the last two years and going forward. But Wheelie remains legend/core scale?. Yeah I know TF scale is pretty much all about inconsistency, and I'm no Wheelie fan, but it just seems odd.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 1:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I guess they really wanna recreate the TFTM scenes of him climbing and riding on the Dinobots.o.supreme wrote:So Bumblebee and the other "minibots" are getting upgraded from legends/core figures in previous years, to deluxe within the last two years and going forward. But Wheelie remains legend/core scale?. Yeah I know TF scale is pretty much all about inconsistency, and I'm no Wheelie fan, but it just seems odd.
Scale and being able to re-enact scenes from the movie is the entire point of Studio Series, so it does makes sense.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 13th, 2022 @ 2:02pm CDT
The SS86 Core Wheelie will not be hampered by a gimmick. So I expect it to be good.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 2:06pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:TR Wheelie is a very bad toy. It's floppy, fiddly, and not fun to handle. All because of the Titan Master seat gimmick. He goes well with TR Kup at least.
The SS86 Core Wheelie will not be hampered by a gimmick. So I expect it to be good.
TR Wheelie actually seems similar to TR Bumblebee. I have TR Bumblebee and it's not as bad as it seems, very interesting transformation.
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2022 @ 2:35pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Scale and being able to re-enact scenes from the movie is the entire point of Studio Series, so it does makes sense.
Cool. Would love to hear What scene from any of the films you were able to recreate with these:
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 2:37pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Scale and being able to re-enact scenes from the movie is the entire point of Studio Series, so it does makes sense.
Cool. Would love to hear What scene from any of the films you were able to recreate with these:
Dont have those, never liked the bay films.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CDT
I got nothing for Nest Bee, but Thundercracker's packaging pegs him as one of the unnamed Decepticon reinforcements in Dark of the Moon that came from the moon through the Space Bridge and took part in the Battle of Chicago.o.supreme wrote:Cool. Would love to hear What scene from any of the films you were able to recreate with these:
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:37pm CDT
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:43pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Plus thundercracker makes a great body for any bodyless titan masters you might have lying around.
But he's not a headmaster I though.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:48pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Plus thundercracker makes a great body for any bodyless titan masters you might have lying around.
But he's not a headmaster I though.
He's based on The Last Knight Nitro (Zeus):
... who has a Titans Return-like head removal gimmick as part of a deleted scene involving the "Headmaster" (ha ha) Cogman:
Cogman would have torn Nitro's head off and hijack his body.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:53pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Plus thundercracker makes a great body for any bodyless titan masters you might have lying around.
But he's not a headmaster I though.
He's based on The Last Knight Nitro (Zeus):
... who has a Titans Return-like head removal gimmick as part of a deleted scene involving the "Headmaster" (ha ha) Cogman:
Cogman would have torn Nitro's head off and hijack his body.
Alright, I think I remember that in a stopmotion.
Posted by Overcracker on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:57pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Plus thundercracker makes a great body for any bodyless titan masters you might have lying around.
But he's not a headmaster I though.
He is:
Just that his head does not transform into a tiny robot.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2022 @ 3:59pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Plus thundercracker makes a great body for any bodyless titan masters you might have lying around.
But he's not a headmaster I though.
The Thundercracker toy is though, as he's based off the nitro zeus mold who also shares the feature. It's all based off a plan for the Last Knight film where nitro zeus was going to get Decapitated and cogman was going to transform into a head and take control of the body. While it never made it to the movie itself, the feature was in the toys.
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:22pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Scale and being able to re-enact scenes from the movie is the entire point of Studio Series, so it does makes sense.
Cool. Would love to hear What scene from any of the films you were able to recreate with these:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Dont have those, never liked the bay films.
I'm not the biggest fan of the live action films either, nor do I own those specific toys. The point is, hopefully now you understand that despite the fan assumed pretense of Studio Series, the toys that are Produced are not always from a film, nor are they always to scale.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:23pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Scale and being able to re-enact scenes from the movie is the entire point of Studio Series, so it does makes sense.
Cool. Would love to hear What scene from any of the films you were able to recreate with these:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Dont have those, never liked the bay films.
I'm not the biggest fan of the live action films either, nor do I own those specific toys. The point is, hopefully now you understand that despite the fan assumed pretense of Studio Series, the toys that are Produced are not always from a film, nor are they always to scale.
Studio series 86 is all the studi series I care about.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:33pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Ss86 isn't always gonna be to scale either (ratchet)
He was that scale in an animation error.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Ss86 isn't always gonna be to scale either (ratchet)
Excluding Core Class versions of larger characters... That should be specific enough to work for everyone, right?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:39pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Ss86 isn't always gonna be to scale either (ratchet)
Excluding Core Class versions of larger characters... That should be specific enough to work for everyone, right?
This^ Aside from certain characters, core class exists so that parents/collectors have a cheaper alternative for a character. Outside of that price point, the other toys are adhering to a scale the best they can. Its mostly worked so far.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:43pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2022 @ 4:55pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:The point being made was not all figures from these lines are going to be to scale or only figures that appeared in the films. I know what the core class is for, didn't think i had to spell the rest out. Just adding on to o.supremes point
Not exact scale no, but you gotta allow for some leeway... but the idea of Core Class Ratchet being based on an animation error makes me think it wasn't all that unintentional
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2022 @ 5:00pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:The point being made was not all figures from these lines are going to be to scale or only figures that appeared in the films. I know what the core class is for, didn't think i had to spell the rest out. Just adding on to o.supremes point
Not exact scale no, but you gotta allow for some leeway... but the idea of Core Class Ratchet being based on an animation error makes me think it wasn't all that unintentional
Oh I don't care about exact scale haha I think the core class figures are great for what they are, and some of them are done better than their larger counterparts. Scale for figures in most lines over the past few years has been pretty consistent
And it'd be pretty funny if they released ratchet first solely for that reason. Some dank humor in the tf world is always welcome
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 13th, 2022 @ 8:38pm CDT
I did get my Sludge in tonight. My oh my I am enjoying him. He is exactly the chonkster I was hoping he would be. He is DENSE. He is a good figure. The transformation was pretty fun, and the dino mode is huge. He is really fun. Definitely leagues better than Slug.
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2022 @ 9:35pm CDT
Hasbro can do as they wish, which is fine, but the illusion that SS are so exactly on point as shown in animation is a proven fallacy.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 13th, 2022 @ 11:33pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I like my TR Wheelie just fine, so I think I am good with him.
I did get my Sludge in tonight. My oh my I am enjoying him. He is exactly the chonkster I was hoping he would be. He is DENSE. He is a good figure. The transformation was pretty fun, and the dino mode is huge. He is really fun. Definitely leagues better than Slug.
He does look like an amazing figure, I wish I could afford the dinobots.
Posted by X3ROhour on July 14th, 2022 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2022 @ 3:14am CDT
o.supreme wrote:That was pretty much my point. It makes no sense that Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are deluxe, while Wheelie ( roughly the same size) is a core - and all from TFTM.
Hasbro can do as they wish, which is fine, but the illusion that SS are so exactly on point as shown in animation is a proven fallacy.
Considering that SS86 started just to move TF:TM designs to when they added beast wars to kingdom, that wasn't ever true anyway (especially when Kup and Cliffjumper got more accurate releases in Buzzworthy)
Now let's say that Wheelie got moved to Deluxe..I think he'd be packing a lot of accessories to bulk out the price point.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 14th, 2022 @ 3:15am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeesh. Unless it looks better in other pics, I'll stick with the Legends version over that scrawny thing.
I need to see what it looks like too. Just that image, the figure looks kind of gross.