First look at Alternity Suzuki Swift Bumblebee
Friday, August 7th, 2009 5:26AM CDT
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Posted by Narc on August 7th, 2009 @ 5:29am CDT
Posted by Diem on August 7th, 2009 @ 5:34am CDT
Posted by i_amtrunks on August 7th, 2009 @ 5:40am CDT
Has a Classics Sunstreaker vibe to me.
Posted by astig on August 7th, 2009 @ 5:53am CDT
bot mode reminds me of sunstreaker, while alt mode reminds me of ironhide.
guess it's better to wait for pics of the colored version.
Posted by tom brokaw on August 7th, 2009 @ 6:02am CDT
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:16am CDT
Posted by Covenant on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:25am CDT
That item is hardly worth the effort. It sort of shocks me that it has such care in its head, arms and legs only to be complete fail in the torso department. I'm hoping there's some for of mechanism in play that allows the chest to slide in a bit, or something similar. If not, then the bulging chest that sticks out rediculously far was very played down in the concept image.
It's simply stopped stroking me.
Posted by Counterpunch on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:28am CDT
What a F'n ugly sack of shit.
Wow.
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:39am CDT
The robot mode, hmm, very chunky torso while the limbs are relatively scrawny. That's my main issue. It's unbalanced in robot mode. I like the design of the limbs, though, so if I were in charge of designing it, I'd say find a way to alter the torso rather than the limbs.
I like the head sculpt. It's an update to the traditional G1 hornhead design, which I like.
Admittedly, the concept art does show a rotund figure but these photos show a chunkier body. Wow, if only it wasn't so big in the torso, I'd buy this. I like but am in no way a big fan of the other Alternity figures and BB was the first one I was considering buying since his alt mode reminds me of a more traditional alt mode for the character.
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:42am CDT
Posted by Wheelimus Prime on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:47am CDT
I think it is miss transformed. look at the chest, it looks like the roof is supposed to flip over
if not then, either way its a pass
Posted by Rated X on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:49am CDT
Posted by --B-- on August 7th, 2009 @ 7:59am CDT
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 7th, 2009 @ 8:10am CDT
What a crappy, craptastic crapola piece of junk!
Uhhh.... I think... I think I'm gonna be sick....
Hmmmprghphhh!!!
Posted by Technically weird on August 7th, 2009 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 9:02am CDT
Technically weird wrote:Bumblebee smoked too much pot with spike as a minibot.
He got the energon munchies and now he's as wide as Optimus.
Posted by Kibble on August 7th, 2009 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on August 7th, 2009 @ 9:58am CDT
Convotron wrote:Technically weird wrote:Bumblebee smoked too much pot with spike as a minibot.
He got the energon munchies and now he's as wide as Optimus.
lol
Counterpunch wrote:Pre-order canceled!
What a F'n ugly sack of shit.
Wow.
When it even draws your ire, there's something wrong.
Yeah, so far it doesn't look good, but I'll wait to see some color pics before making my final judgement.
Even if the lower torso extends more so you can see his hip armor under it would be a major improvement. He's just too short and fat.
Posted by Jacob P. Galvatron on August 7th, 2009 @ 10:11am CDT
I can understand having their chest as the face of the car, but not half the frikin' car being their body.
Posted by Editor on August 7th, 2009 @ 11:30am CDT
but that bot mode, it can't be right.
No change of grabbing this one unless there is a mistransformation here.
Posted by Universe on August 7th, 2009 @ 11:39am CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on August 7th, 2009 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by Powersa on August 7th, 2009 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 12:02pm CDT
Posted by Kibble on August 7th, 2009 @ 12:17pm CDT
Is that just a drawing? Holding out that there's still hope for this thing...
Posted by Longbridge on August 7th, 2009 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by Firebird on August 7th, 2009 @ 12:50pm CDT
Where is his waist?
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 1:04pm CDT
Firebird wrote:Wow
Where is his waist?
Alternity BB is wondering the exact same thing! He's also wondering where his feet went as they are out of sight as far as he's concerned. Poor BB...
Posted by Blurrz on August 7th, 2009 @ 1:59pm CDT
>_>
Posted by Delicon on August 7th, 2009 @ 3:14pm CDT
Kibble wrote:Granted, there's a banner blocking part of it, but it doesn't look nearly as bad as the the pics on the first page here:
Is that just a drawing? Holding out that there's still hope for this thing...
I actually liked this concept image and I as remember most people got excited about it at the time.
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by Jesterhead on August 7th, 2009 @ 4:14pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2009 @ 4:29pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Ah, you guys are being silly and a bit to quick to judge. Too many times have we seen a figure mis transformered, and by god's name this figure isn't even coloured yet. I bet most of you will be crawling back and begging to have this figure.
>_>
Fanboys would NEVER do anything like that ...
Posted by Diem on August 7th, 2009 @ 6:00pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Ah, you guys are being silly and a bit to quick to judge. Too many times have we seen a figure mis transformered, and by god's name this figure isn't even coloured yet. I bet most of you will be crawling back and begging to have this figure.
>_>
Unless his paunch transforms into extra material to supplement his legs and cover up his retarded looking shoulders, I think this figure is hopeless.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 7th, 2009 @ 8:43pm CDT
Having said that, I do like his overall G1-ish look, but his paunchy torso makes him a definite pass for me.
If the prototype Alternity Convoy pics in the past are anything to go by, the designers won't be changing Bumblebee to any measurable degree where his beer-belly is rectified. He'll likely stay pretty much the same as we see him in the prototype stage.
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2009 @ 8:56pm CDT
I mean look at his G1 mini-bot and pretender toy, they were reasonably podgy.
I just think the last few years where we've seen a more "slim and sexy" Bumblebee people have become accustomed to "health and fitness" Bumblebee instead of the "classic" podgy Bumblebee.
When you look at it that way it's actually just a modern update of the G1 version.
*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*
Posted by Wheelimus Prime on August 7th, 2009 @ 8:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:
*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*
well they didn't, and they should have, because now the toys aren't accurate to each other, and, well now i am just making up BS as i go along, like everyone else who will post a comment like this
but seriously, If they fix the feet, or at least make his crotch look like he has one, i might pick it up, he is growing on me
Posted by Convotron on August 7th, 2009 @ 10:50pm CDT
However, I think part of the problem with the Alternity BB is way that the wheel wells at the shoulders increases the already broad body silhouette. Another part is the proportions. With such a large torso, Alternity BB's legs and arms are too short and thus I see an undercover sharkticon.
I'll make a point using the following three images. The first is the Alternity BB.
The second is forum member Wheeljack-S70's great BB kitbash(check out more photos at his thread in the Extensive Mods and Scratchbuilds board).
The third is a photo of Classics BB with some vintage G1 BBs.
Notice how Alternity BB's paunch, while not significantly larger than the other examples, is large enough to obscure the figure's thighs whereas the Wheeljack-S70 BB and Classics/G1 BBs have clearance to allow us to see their upper and lower legs. So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.
Now I'm not one to point and say "Hah, look at that fat robot mode!". Afterall, I'm a G1 fan, which includes chunky robot designs. Classics Hound is a beautiful robot mode in my eyes, its crate-for-feet and all. I really like the Aveo Swerve because of its relative chunkiness(as well as simply great design mechanics of its transformation). However, Alternity BB isn't too fat...his arms and legs are too short!
Alternity BB has two pistols. It has a G1 flavour to its design. If my pre-orders don't destroy my budget, I'm getting Alternity BB. My first Transformer was a G1 BB so I ain't going to give up on ol' hornhead!
Posted by Diem on August 7th, 2009 @ 10:53pm CDT
Burn wrote:Thinking about it ... i'm not sure WHY we're getting upset over the "podgy belly".
I mean look at his G1 mini-bot and pretender toy, they were reasonably podgy.
I just think the last few years where we've seen a more "slim and sexy" Bumblebee people have become accustomed to "health and fitness" Bumblebee instead of the "classic" podgy Bumblebee.
When you look at it that way it's actually just a modern update of the G1 version.
*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*
Very simply, Bumble is a bad choice for the line. I hate that they've chosen a character that's popular over a character that fits the line. It's a bad design of an overused character in an overpriced line. Total fail.
Taking bets now on whether the next Alternity will be Soundwave or Starscream...
Posted by rpetras on August 8th, 2009 @ 12:21am CDT
Posted by Burn on August 8th, 2009 @ 1:43am CDT
Convotron wrote:So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.
Which is why I think it's mis-transformed.
I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.
Posted by Convotron on August 8th, 2009 @ 7:39am CDT
Burn wrote:Convotron wrote:So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.
Which is why I think it's mis-transformed.
I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.
That's what I'm hoping.
Posted by kirbenvost on August 8th, 2009 @ 5:20pm CDT
And that is one damn fine custom.
Posted by Counterpunch on August 8th, 2009 @ 6:42pm CDT
Burn wrote:I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.
Classics/Universe/Henkei Ironhide
Posted by Burn on August 8th, 2009 @ 7:08pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Burn wrote:I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.
Classics/Universe/Henkei Ironhide
Is a good figure.
Fanboy.
Posted by Knightmare10880 on August 8th, 2009 @ 8:34pm CDT