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News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:02 am

Maybe Alternity BB is getting ready to go undercover as a Sharkticon! He's got the proportions, he just needs a few mods, some sharp teeth, and a paint job.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:17 am

Granted, there's a banner blocking part of it, but it doesn't look nearly as bad as the the pics on the first page here:

Is that just a drawing? Holding out that there's still hope for this thing...

by **Longbridge** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:34 am

Crikey, that's ugly! He's got half a car on his chest and silly feet; unless this turns out to be mistransformed it's one to avoid for me.

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:50 am

Wow

Where is his waist?

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:04 pm

Firebird wrote:Wow

Where is his waist?

Alternity BB is wondering the exact same thing! He's also wondering where his feet went as they are out of sight as far as he's concerned. Poor BB...

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:59 pm

Ah, you guys are being silly and a bit to quick to judge. Too many times have we seen a figure mis transformered, and by god's name this figure isn't even coloured yet. I bet most of you will be crawling back and begging to have this figure.

>_>

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:14 pm

Kibble wrote:Granted, there's a banner blocking part of it, but it doesn't look nearly as bad as the the pics on the first page here:

Is that just a drawing? Holding out that there's still hope for this thing...

I actually liked this concept image and I as remember most people got excited about it at the time.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:21 pm

I do want this figure. It's actually the only Alternity figure I wanted for sure. Heck, even if the fellah's chunky in the final product I may get him anyways. The sharkticon-esque silhouette gives him character! I do like his alt mode, though, since I'm not a big fan of the live action BB's sporty design. Compact style vehicle BB all the way!

News Credits: 1 · by **Jesterhead** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:14 pm

Gonna have to wait for a colored version to decide if I wanna cancel my pre-order... Kinda disappointing.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:29 pm

Blurrz wrote:Ah, you guys are being silly and a bit to quick to judge. Too many times have we seen a figure mis transformered, and by god's name this figure isn't even coloured yet. I bet most of you will be crawling back and begging to have this figure.

>_>

Fanboys would NEVER do anything like that ...

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:00 pm

Blurrz wrote:Ah, you guys are being silly and a bit to quick to judge. Too many times have we seen a figure mis transformered, and by god's name this figure isn't even coloured yet. I bet most of you will be crawling back and begging to have this figure.

>_>

Unless his paunch transforms into extra material to supplement his legs and cover up his retarded looking shoulders, I think this figure is hopeless.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:43 pm

Strange, but he keeps reminding me of one of those 1920's silent comedies, where some naked guy runs around holding a barrel to cover up his body.

Having said that, I do like his overall G1-ish look, but his paunchy torso makes him a definite pass for me.

If the prototype Alternity Convoy pics in the past are anything to go by, the designers won't be changing Bumblebee to any measurable degree where his beer-belly is rectified. He'll likely stay pretty much the same as we see him in the prototype stage.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:56 pm

Thinking about it ... i'm not sure WHY we're getting upset over the "podgy belly".

I mean look at his G1 mini-bot and pretender toy, they were reasonably podgy.

I just think the last few years where we've seen a more "slim and sexy" Bumblebee people have become accustomed to "health and fitness" Bumblebee instead of the "classic" podgy Bumblebee.

When you look at it that way it's actually just a modern update of the G1 version.

*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*

by **Wheelimus Prime** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:59 pm

Burn wrote:
*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*

well they didn't, and they should have, because now the toys aren't accurate to each other, and, well now i am just making up BS as i go along, like everyone else who will post a comment like this

but seriously, If they fix the feet, or at least make his crotch look like he has one, i might pick it up, he is growing on me

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:50 pm

Well I for one do not like the slim and sexy BB! I say again, compact style vehicle BB is the way to go.

However, I think part of the problem with the Alternity BB is way that the wheel wells at the shoulders increases the already broad body silhouette. Another part is the proportions. With such a large torso, Alternity BB's legs and arms are too short and thus I see an undercover sharkticon.

I'll make a point using the following three images. The first is the Alternity BB.

The second is forum member Wheeljack-S70's great BB kitbash(check out more photos at his thread in the Extensive Mods and Scratchbuilds board).

The third is a photo of Classics BB with some vintage G1 BBs.

Notice how Alternity BB's paunch, while not significantly larger than the other examples, is large enough to obscure the figure's thighs whereas the Wheeljack-S70 BB and Classics/G1 BBs have clearance to allow us to see their upper and lower legs. So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.

Now I'm not one to point and say "Hah, look at that fat robot mode!". Afterall, I'm a G1 fan, which includes chunky robot designs. Classics Hound is a beautiful robot mode in my eyes, its crate-for-feet and all. I really like the Aveo Swerve because of its relative chunkiness(as well as simply great design mechanics of its transformation). However, Alternity BB isn't too fat...his arms and legs are too short!

Alternity BB has two pistols. It has a G1 flavour to its design. If my pre-orders don't destroy my budget, I'm getting Alternity BB. My first Transformer was a G1 BB so I ain't going to give up on ol' hornhead!

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:53 pm

Burn wrote:Thinking about it ... i'm not sure WHY we're getting upset over the "podgy belly".

I mean look at his G1 mini-bot and pretender toy, they were reasonably podgy.

I just think the last few years where we've seen a more "slim and sexy" Bumblebee people have become accustomed to "health and fitness" Bumblebee instead of the "classic" podgy Bumblebee.

When you look at it that way it's actually just a modern update of the G1 version.

*cue the "But they didn't do that with Classics!" responses*

Very simply, Bumble is a bad choice for the line. I hate that they've chosen a character that's popular over a character that fits the line. It's a bad design of an overused character in an overpriced line. Total fail.

Taking bets now on whether the next Alternity will be Soundwave or Starscream...

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:21 pm

Sucks beyond suck.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:43 am

Convotron wrote:So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.

Which is why I think it's mis-transformed.

I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:39 am

Burn wrote:
Convotron wrote:So the combination of Alternity BB's shoulder wheel wells and thigh obscuring paunch is what makes it appear so much more rotund than previous BBs.

Which is why I think it's mis-transformed.

I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.

That's what I'm hoping.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:20 pm

There is still hope if it's mis-transformed.

And that is one damn fine custom.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:42 pm

Burn wrote:I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.

Classics/Universe/Henkei Ironhide

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:08 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Burn wrote:I truly don't believe TT would design something that flawed.

Classics/Universe/Henkei Ironhide

Is a good figure.
Fanboy.

by **Knightmare10880** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:34 pm

It's a very odd looking figure but I think I'll wait for the final product. I hope it turns out right because I'd really like to add a really cool looking Bumblebee to my Transformers collection.