First In Hand Images of Generations Cyber 11 inch Optimus Prime

Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

I agree that it's a bit baffling.

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

Depends what you mean by scale though. These toys never shied away from the Cyber Class name. While we commonly attribute the cyberverse line as small, Hasbro sees it as just meaning easier to transform with less articulation. All this toy is is an upscaled cyberverse toy which didnt have an original small toy come out first. None of my generations legion toys have knees so consider this just an upscale of those, that's how Hasbro seems to deal with it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

I agree that it's a bit baffling.

I'm fully aware it's for the kiddies, but I agree.

Kneeds Knees!

william-james88 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

Depends what you mean by scale though. These toys never shied away from the Cyber Class name. While we commonly attribute the cyberverse line as small, Hasbro sees it as just meaning easier to transform with less articulation. All this toy is is an upscaled cyberverse toy which didnt have an original small toy come out first. None of my generations legion toys have knees so consider this just an upscale of those, that's how Hasbro seems to deal with it.

Excuses, excuses. You know it needs those knees. Stop lying to yourself. We're all here to help you.

Also, so many legion and commander figures DO have knees. How hard it would have been to put some hard clickitty ratchet knees on them? To transform, just straighten the legs first. I can understand the no knees on the 3 step changers, but these it's a bit sad.

Yeah... lack of articulation/poseability? That's a deal-killer for me. Sure the G1 figures were also bricks, but they've had 30 years to refine the technology. Surely they could have given him some knees. I mean - giving him ankle pivots was easy, but knees were too hard? Uy...

Desslok2201 wrote:Excuses, excuses. You know it needs those knees. Stop lying to yourself. We're all here to help you.

Haha, thanks for being there for me, its nice to know there are people out there who care for you

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

On another note, I love his head sculpt. That is an Optimus Prime head right there!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

Yeah, that doesnt make much sense to me.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

Yeah, that doesnt make much sense to me.

It is very strange and illogical to have ankle tilts and no knees, but I wasn't at the board meetings. There may be a reason. A strange, twisted, illogical, unthinkable, very-problematic reason perhaps...

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

Yeah, that doesnt make much sense to me.

Oh wow. Maybe it's for transformation?
Also, I wonder how hard it would be to mod him some knees?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

Yeah, that doesnt make much sense to me.

Oh wow. Maybe it's for transformation?
Also, I wonder how hard it would be to mod him some knees?

Looking at the truck mode, I do not believe it is for transformation. I have no remote idea why there are ankle tilts.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

LOL Looks like it's taking a dump!

Have these shown up online anywhere yet? eBay? Not sure if I'm searching for these properly.

Desslok2201 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

Depends what you mean by scale though. These toys never shied away from the Cyber Class name. While we commonly attribute the cyberverse line as small, Hasbro sees it as just meaning easier to transform with less articulation. All this toy is is an upscaled cyberverse toy which didnt have an original small toy come out first. None of my generations legion toys have knees so consider this just an upscale of those, that's how Hasbro seems to deal with it.

Excuses, excuses. You know it needs those knees. Stop lying to yourself. We're all here to help you.

Jabs aside, even Legends Bumblebee has better articulation for its scale compared to this piece of plastic. Hasbro's been dropping the ball on their Optimus toys a lot lately - and they don't even try to be subtle about it anymore.

william-james88 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Ok, it kinda looks nicer than I expected it to, but...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T IT HAVE KNEES???
At that scale, it's inexcusable, damn it.

Depends what you mean by scale though. These toys never shied away from the Cyber Class name. While we commonly attribute the cyberverse line as small, Hasbro sees it as just meaning easier to transform with less articulation. All this toy is is an upscaled cyberverse toy which didnt have an original small toy come out first. None of my generations legion toys have knees so consider this just an upscale of those, that's how Hasbro seems to deal with it.

That Starscream totally has knees, though.

Seibertron wrote:Have these shown up online anywhere yet? eBay? Not sure if I'm searching for these properly.

Sorry Seibertron, but anything we know of this line is associated with Brazil (like the show they premiered at, the online stores, the catalogue they first appeared in). Here is where they are sold online, but it comes with the insane exchange which I assume the canadian fan had to swallow when buying these.

The only hint that these are getting a US release is that they appear on Hasbro's website with a US MSRP.

Super Megatron wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

LOL Looks like it's taking a dump!

I see Dennis Reynolds showing his range of motion in cutoff jean shorts

Desslok2201 wrote:I see Dennis Reynolds showing his range of motion in cutoff jean shorts

I would rather it be Denise Richards.

william-james88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Have these shown up online anywhere yet? eBay? Not sure if I'm searching for these properly.

Sorry Seibertron, but anything we know of this line is associated with Brazil (like the show they premiered at, the online stores, the catalogue they first appeared in). Here is where they are sold online, but it comes with the insane exchange which I assume the canadian fan had to swallow when buying these.

The only hint that these are getting a US release is that they appear on Hasbro's website with a US MSRP.

Are Optimus and Bumblebee the only ones available currently? What about Grimlock, Megatron and Starscream?

Seibertron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Have these shown up online anywhere yet? eBay? Not sure if I'm searching for these properly.

Sorry Seibertron, but anything we know of this line is associated with Brazil (like the show they premiered at, the online stores, the catalogue they first appeared in). Here is where they are sold online, but it comes with the insane exchange which I assume the canadian fan had to swallow when buying these.

The only hint that these are getting a US release is that they appear on Hasbro's website with a US MSRP.

Are Optimus and Bumblebee the only ones available currently? What about Grimlock, Megatron and Starscream?

That seems to be it. This retailer also only has those two.

william-james88 wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote:I see Dennis Reynolds showing his range of motion in cutoff jean shorts

I would rather it be Denise Richards.

That's.....not the pose I would put her in.

It can't be healthy to have his legs spread so far apart. It looks ridiculous on an otherwise nice looking figure.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Behold: He may lack knees, but he has ankle tilts!!

How does this even happen?!



Also, good lord people stop quoting those same 2 dang pics already.

What a piece of crap.

hes the bees knees!

Don't think it's a big deal. As Optimus has over One hundred different toys.

The missing and articulation in odd spots reminds me of the armada toys.

Seen worse than this. If these Cyber Eleven toys cost $20 at my stores. Then i'm buying them as it's a good deal for a toy this size.

This picture shows that the truck mode does not need his feet to tilt at all. They are required to just be straight and stiff (thats what she said) in that mode so it is all the more baffling.

Super Megatron wrote: Hasbro's been dropping the ball on their Optimus toys a lot lately - and they don't even try to be subtle about it anymore.

Think it's the opposite.

Optimus gets almost Ten toys each year. Spread across different toy lines and different sizes. A few of these are great must have toys.

MP-01, MP-10, Transformers Prime Weaponizers Optimus, Some Movie Optimus toys. Classics 1.0 Voyager Optimus, 2005 Cybertron Leader Optimus. Rid 2001 Super Optimus and some others.
Were all great toys that were worth buying.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Super Megatron wrote: Hasbro's been dropping the ball on their Optimus toys a lot lately - and they don't even try to be subtle about it anymore.

Think it's the opposite.

Optimus gets almost Ten toys each year. Spread across different toy lines and different sizes. A few of these are great must have toys.

MP-01, MP-10, Transformers Prime Weaponizers Optimus, Some Movie Optimus toys. Classics 1.0 Voyager Optimus, 2005 Cybertron Leader Optimus. Rid 2001 Super Optimus and some others.
Were all great toys that were worth buying.

I think all his smaller scaled releases were also great, like the Prime cyberverse and the beast hunters version, the legion one from RTS and even the Generations one which the Huffer mold is based out of. And the War for Cybertron Optimus is one of the best out there. I also like Orion Pax but dont know if her counts.

Perfect counter to CW Megatron!

Ya know I read a lot from you people and keep my mouth shut but this I gotta say something. You're going on and on about Prime not having knees, WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES DO YOU PEOPLE DO WITH YOUR FIGURES?!!??? On second thought, I don't want to know.

I think that if you'd turn it around, he's completely hollow. I mean, look at those arms. I'm going to cry and hug my Armada toys.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I read a lot from you people and keep my mouth shut but this I gotta say something. You're going on and on about Prime not having knees, WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES DO YOU PEOPLE DO WITH YOUR FIGURES?!!??? On second thought, I don't want to know.

RhA wrote:I think that if you'd turn it around, he's completely hollow. I mean, look at those arms. I'm going to cry and hug my Armada toys.

Maybe a little circuit su and metallikato? If you know what I mean.

the lack of knees is pretty baffling. It doesn't seem like there are any engineering reasons why it couldn't have had knees. The most baffling part of it isn't the lack of knees though. It's that someone at hasbro decided that knees could be cut... but ankle tilts were an absolute must. A good amount of voyagers don't even get ankle tilts! WHO DESIGNED THIS? seriously though, I'd overlook every other cost cutting measure on the figure if it had knees. It's such a great looking figure overall.

william-james88 wrote:Depends what you mean by scale though. These toys never shied away from the Cyber Class name. While we commonly attribute the cyberverse line as small, Hasbro sees it as just meaning easier to transform with less articulation. All this toy is is an upscaled cyberverse toy which didnt have an original small toy come out first.

But there was an original small toy...

Yeah I agree it should have knees...it would make it so much better...but you, its pretty awesome as it is. I'm cool with this.

It would have cost $0.05 more to have knees, so they had to be left out. I wonder if any third party or Shapeways savvy folks will make replacement legs.

Otherwise it's good looking Optimus.

Kyleor wrote:It would have cost $0.05 more to have knees, so they had to be left out. I wonder if any third party or Shapeways savvy folks will make replacement legs.

Otherwise it's good looking Optimus.

You could just buy the Hero Masher toys which have knees and already come apart and just add those to Optimus.

One thing though guys, we dont even know if we will even have a chance to complain about these toys appearing on our shelves since they were never confirmed for distribution in North America. We didnt even get the last upscaled cyberverse figures.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I read a lot from you people and keep my mouth shut but this I gotta say something. You're going on and on about Prime not having knees, WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES DO YOU PEOPLE DO WITH YOUR FIGURES?!!???

Pose them?

In walking/running/jumping/kicking/etc. poses?

yeah.... but do you really do that? I mean for longer than a few minutes... do you pose all your toys running/ sitting/ kicking etc?

One childs toy doesnt have knees, we get it, hasblow screwed us again. People need to calm the hell down and stop acting like this is the worse thing in the world. You will all cope. He looks a decent design, as an adult collector I may even buy him. But this is a toy, if it doesnt do everything you like, dont buy it, or buy it and enjoy it for what it is.

You lot seriously embarrass yourselves when you behave like this. We get it.... youre pissed a toy in a line you dont even collect yet failed to meet the lofty collector standards. Goddamn... get over it.

Stumpybot wrote:yeah.... but do you really do that? I mean for longer than a few minutes... do you pose all your toys running/ sitting/ kicking etc?

Well, my Transmetal Terrorsaur has no choice but to be in a knelt down position in order for him to fit in his little amount of room on the shelf.

Stumpybot wrote:yeah.... but do you really do that? I mean for longer than a few minutes... do you pose all your toys running/ sitting/ kicking etc?

One childs toy doesnt have knees, we get it, hasblow screwed us again. People need to calm the hell down and stop acting like this is the worse thing in the world. You will all cope. He looks a decent design, as an adult collector I may even buy him. But this is a toy, if it doesnt do everything you like, dont buy it, or buy it and enjoy it for what it is.

You lot seriously embarrass yourselves when you behave like this. We get it.... youre pissed a toy in a line you dont even collect yet failed to meet the lofty collector standards. Goddamn... get over it.

But when you're enough of a fan to join a board to discuss it, it's no surprise you run into passionate opinions. I agree while looking the figure over that it's silly he lacks knees. But at the same time I'm not really invested enough to care. End of the day, it's just another Optimus

Kyleor wrote:It would have cost $0.05 more to have knees, so they had to be left out.

... subtract the ankle tilts man, who even thought they were a priority?

Just curious, would we be up in arms over his hallowness if he had knees? I feel like the absence of knees is a big black hole absorbing all criticism distracting us from anything else

Y'know what surprises me? The fact that we have 15-16 pages of discussion of this line already. I wonder why theres so much interest?

shajaki wrote:Y'know what surprises me? The fact that we have 15-16 pages of discussion of this line already. I wonder why theres so much interest?

Haha! Yeah! And plus, these are on toys we might never get. Maybe the out of reach factor and the mystery surrounding their existence is what makes us latch on. I actually think these are the best attempt at simplifying TFs for younger kids, compared to the other kid stuff Hasbro has been pushing lately. These are the same size and price as the flip and change products and I think they are a huge leap from those.

shajaki wrote:Y'know what surprises me? The fact that we have 15-16 pages of discussion of this line already. I wonder why theres so much interest?

I think because, otherwise, these guys just look so awesome. They are designed well and have a great aesthetic to them. It just seems like sometimes Hasbro can't go 100% awesome with stuff. They have a quota of 80-90% awesome and cant go further.

Thats they way I feel. I do hope these see North America release though.