Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" to be comprised of 6 Female Transformers

Really cool news. Well done, Hasbro.

Combiner Hunters was just announced via IDW's July solicitations. Windblade, Chromia, and Arcee team up to stop another combiner, apparently this new one.

MrBlack wrote:Combiner Hunters was just announced via IDW's July solicitations. Windblade, Chromia, and Arcee team up to stop another combiner, apparently this new one.

Thank you for the heads up, correcting now. *brofist*

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! best go get my sunglasses, some fanboys will be having meltdowns tonight!

In all seriousness, I voted for this, its good to see others did too, celebrate the past all you want but sometimes you have to build the future.

Saw the video for her appearance on Robots in Disguise on the TFWiki Facebook page. The VA sounds awfully familiar.

SWEEET! Finlay . Though most of the fans had long Suspected that this would be the outcome for Gender and Name.

Stumpybot wrote:PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! best go get my sunglasses, some fanboys will be having meltdowns tonight!

In all seriousness, I voted for this, its good to see others did too, celebrate the past all you want but sometimes you have to build the future.

Indeed. I can't wait. I've never had a problem with fembots and we waited WAAAAAAY too long for Arcee and Chromia, as well as Windblade. Energon Arcee and the Bayverse versions were nice tries, but these are the real deal, awesome characters and figures deserving of their newfound popularity.

It's not just a boy's world anymore and everyone, especially the fans, needs to move forward, not backward. We all need to evolve a bit.

"They meant to say Combiner Wars"
News staff confirmed for not reading each other's news.


I am super excited for this. Windblade in RID and a new combiner made of six fembots? HECK YEAH. I can't wait to see the design unveiled. I kind of wish Combiner Hunters was the Free Comic Book Day issue, but I'll pick it up either way. It's a great time to be a transformers fan.

Autobot032 wrote:

Stumpybot wrote:PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! best go get my sunglasses, some fanboys will be having meltdowns tonight!

In all seriousness, I voted for this, its good to see others did too, celebrate the past all you want but sometimes you have to build the future.

Indeed. I can't wait. I've never had a problem with fembots and we waited WAAAAAAY too long for Arcee and Chromia, as well as Windblade. Energon Arcee and the Bayverse versions were nice tries, but these are the real deal, awesome characters and figures deserving of their newfound popularity.

It's not just a boy's world anymore and everyone, especially the fans, needs to move forward, not backward. We all need to evolve a bit.

Cool to see Windblade's TF RID/Adventure look will look almost exactly the same as her Generations/IDW look. But probably be a bit more sturdy. While I like her figure, Shes almost 3rd Party/Collector level in care you need to play with her.

I REALLY hope we get to see Overide/NitroConvoy soon with Blurr going to Velocitron.
ALso need to see Elita-1 and A3 and other Older Fembots. Windblade is great, really great. But now that Arcee and Chromia have gotten their figures, others should too.

Archanubis wrote:Saw the video for her appearance on Robots in Disguise on the TFWiki Facebook page. The VA sounds awfully familiar.

Her voice actress is Kristy Wu, who apparently had a recurring role on Buffy.

That Bot wrote:"They meant to say Combiner Wars"
News staff confirmed for not reading each other's news.

Yes, yes. Dur hur.

I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. Robobutch is not going to be very feminine in my opinion no matter what shade of pink or pastel easter egg colors they paint her.

While this is great news, I cannot help but feel that this was planned all along. Jerry Jivoins said in all his intereviews that the combiner "could" be female well before the vote ever went live. Plus, while the 6 bots making this combiner will be female, the molds used were all used for male bots meaning that, like in G1 (not in a good way), they arent given their own molds and are still byproducts of masculine designs.

Sorry for being such a debbie downer, but I find it kind of lame that they are throwing a fanfare about them being female when they wont go out of their way to make them special by giving them their own different molds.

Also, side question: what was the result for the torso?

While it is an overdue first, the fact that all 6 will be "pink repaints" (not entirely literally, but you know what I mean) of toys designed to represent male characters makes this seem like the triumphant debut of a team of super-heroines who are all based on established male superheroes. I know it sort of has to be, but it still makes me think of Ms. PacMan.
"And this marshmallow's got a bow on her head!"

But it is important that all 6 component bots be identified on the packaging as female as well. I'm pretty sure the family-values crowd would completely lose their s#!t over any toy that encouraged their children to mix and match male and female body parts, which is why there have been no female Marvel characters in Hero Mashers to date. Now while there's certainly more leeway with robot parts, I think the only reason Robot Mashers Strongarm is going to slip under the radar is that these same parents probably won't even notice she's supposed to be female, and that little Noah is mix and matching Transmorphodites. But with NBC's current series on kids self-identifying as transgender way before puberty, I guess that's an untapped market as far as toy role-models go, so Victorion Scrambling in some limbs from other teams is something kids should be able to do...the boxes just shouldn't emphasize that you can is all, to avoid any backlash.

Of course, personally, I'm just plain happy about this!

Things just became a whole lot more interesting! I will definitely be buying Victorion, read Combiner Hunters, and continue to watch RID15... and I like how we are getting a female Rescue Bot as well, even if I've only ever watched the show about two times. This is pure win. Great job Hasbro!
Now let the misogyny run rampant...

Well given the extent of the remolds we've seen on CW figures thus far I wouldn't be surprised if they were heavily retooled to look more feminine. Regardless, this is AWESOME news. I'll be buying her for sure.

Rated X wrote:I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. Robobutch is not going to be very feminine in my opinion no matter what shade of pink or pastel easter egg colors they paint her.

I'm sure some third party will make a bunch of robo-boob add-ons so you're less confused about it all. Maybe wait untill those get knocked off so they can be cheap as well.

We've seen what Hasbro is capable of in terms of remolds and reshells, especially in this line. How do we know the fembots that come out of these molds won't be drastically changed and feminine? We don't. Let's not go throwing in the towel just yet.

I'd ask for patience, but that's like jumping into fire and expecting to not get immolated.

RhA wrote:

Rated X wrote:I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. Robobutch is not going to be very feminine in my opinion no matter what shade of pink or pastel easter egg colors they paint her.

I'm sure some third party will make a bunch of robo-boob add-ons so you're less confused about it all. Maybe wait untill those get knocked off so they can be cheap as well.

Welp, I have a new sig quote.

Rated X wrote:I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. Robobutch is not going to be very feminine in my opinion no matter what shade of pink or pastel easter egg colors they paint her.

Pink? I didn't see that as an option.

I can't even BEGIN to describe how awesome this news is. I can't wait to see what they all look like and what alternate modes they will have.

Rated X wrote:I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. Robobutch is not going to be very feminine in my opinion no matter what shade of pink or pastel easter egg colors they paint her.

Why the hell do all Fembots have to be super feminine?




Strika and Strongarm pull off the blocky look well so I assume that the combiner and the limbs will be given new feminine heads.




But seriously why do you guys care about them looking feminine anyways outside of perverted reasons which I hope is not the case.

Rated X wrote:I would be more excited if they were going to use new molds with actual fembot bodies instead of repainted male bodies with fembot heads. .

I couldn't agree more.

The other part that dampers my excitement is that I don't believe that RID will stay on the air long enough to get to the Windblade episode

Wheeljack808 wrote:I can't even BEGIN to describe how awesome this news is. I can't wait to see what they all look like and what alternate modes they will have.

We already know what their alt modes will be since it was voted for and chosen. Just read the previous pages of this thread. Each of these is coming from a mold that is already coming out.


Oh and I will follow the advice and stay positive. It could well be that Hasbro will be really good at retooling and making shells that make these fembots truly a toy of their own.

philswitch engage wrote:
I couldn't agree more.

The other part that dampers my excitement is that I don't believe that RID will stay on the air long enough to get to the Windblade episode

Why do you say that?



Because it's on cartoon network?



The episode is already animated so it's going to air regardless.







Does nobody know how television works?

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

philswitch engage wrote:
I couldn't agree more.

The other part that dampers my excitement is that I don't believe that RID will stay on the air long enough to get to the Windblade episode

Why do you say that?



Because it's on cartoon network?



The episode is already animated so it's going to air regardless.







Does nobody know how television works?

To be fair though, several filmed episodes of firefly were never aired.

I'm so very disappointed that the new combiner is female.





Hopefully we don't get a third fan made bot either that or have no gender option and have the next one be male for once.




Probably going to be called sexist for this but its not like I hate female transformers or anything I'm just annoyed that the fan made ones are always female it reminds me of awful Deviantart OCs.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

philswitch engage wrote:
I couldn't agree more.

The other part that dampers my excitement is that I don't believe that RID will stay on the air long enough to get to the Windblade episode

Why do you say that?



Because it's on cartoon network?



The episode is already animated so it's going to air regardless.







Does nobody know how television works?

You've obviously never dealt with TV networks or especially anything Turner, such as Cartoon Network, have you? Just because something is animated or filmed or whatever, doesn't mean it will make it to air. Nothing has a guarantee.

A perfect example? Firefly. The series was killed with like 3 or 4 episodes in the can, ready to air that never made it onto Fox's schedule. That's just one I can think of offhand, but there are plenty that never make it to air, so people being concerned is not unreasonable.

Same goes for movies, too. Movies end up ready to go, can't find a distributor and either go direct to video or never make it to the public. I'll bet if we dug in the archives of film studios and TV networks, we might find gold that never ever made it to the public.

william-james88 wrote:
To be fair though, several filmed episodes of firefly were never aired.

While Firefly was awesome it was live action.

william-james88 wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:I can't even BEGIN to describe how awesome this news is. I can't wait to see what they all look like and what alternate modes they will have.

We already know what their alt modes will be since it was voted for and chosen. Just read the previous pages of this thread. Each of these is coming from a mold that is already coming out.


Oh and I will follow the advice and stay positive. It could well be that Hasbro will be really good at retooling and making shells that make these fembots truly a toy of their own.

Okay total noob question here but I'm still relatively new to posting here. Where exactly are these older pages of this thread? I can't seem to find the link to them.

Autobot032 wrote:
You've obviously never dealt with TV networks or especially anything Turner, such as Cartoon Network, have you? Just because something is animated or filmed or whatever, doesn't mean it will make it to air. Nothing has a guarantee.

A perfect example? Firefly. The series was killed with like 3 or 4 episodes in the can, ready to air that never made it onto Fox's schedule. That's just one I can think of offhand, but there are plenty that never make it to air, so people being concerned is not unreasonable.

Same goes for movies, too. Movies end up ready to go, can't find a distributor and either go direct to video or never make it to the public. I'll bet if we dug in the archives of film studios and TV networks, we might find gold that never ever made it to the public.

This is Hasbro were talking about I'm pretty sure their going to air this episode regardless if there is no season 2 or if it gets canned.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
To be fair though, several filmed episodes of firefly were never aired.

While Firefly was awesome it was life action.

It doesn't matter. If a network decides to axe a show, it's done, that's it. Shows get pulled from the schedule all the time and unaired episodes are left up in the air a lot. It usually happens that you don't get to see the unaired episodes until the series comes to video. And sometimes not even then.

Back in '07 or '08 (somewhere around there), NBC had a remake/reboot of The Bionic Woman and aired something like 14 episodes, but there were closer to 18 and once it was pulled from the schedule, no one saw those episodes. In fact, when the series came to DVD, it was only the first 9 episodes and the rest never made it to home video. (Looks like it never will.)

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I'm so very disappointed that the new combiner is female.





Hopefully we don't get a third fan made bot either that or have no gender option and have the next one be male for once.




Probably going to be called sexist for this but its not like I hate female transformers or anything I'm just annoyed that the fan made ones are always female it reminds me of awful Deviantart OCs.

Then you can buy one of the FOUR other combiners currently set for release that are male, rather than the ONE pending female combiner.

The posts discussing Windblade's appearance and the fate of the show need to be moved to the new thread created specifically for that news piece. Any and all future posts in this thread need to stay on track and discuss the combiner news only.

The Windblade specific posts will be moved to the new thread ASAP and any and all discussion on her appearance can be found in this thread: female-autobot-windblade-to-debut-in-transformers-robots-in-disguise-cartoon-t104026.php

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
To be fair though, several filmed episodes of firefly were never aired.

While Firefly was awesome it was live action.

The fact it was live-action has nothing to do with it.

The actual difference worth looking at is Network TV vs Cable. Networks kill shows with episodes unshown all the time. Cable is likely more invested and while they may bury something in a different timeslot, they are more likely to finish a shows run.

Did Hasbro get the all-clear from Takara to use the name "Victorion"?
Allow me to explain:
Some time back, there was a video game for the Playstation called "Brave Saga", the cast of which was mostly made up of robot characters from the various "Brave Series", all of which were owned by Takara.
The second game, "Brave Saga 2", features a game-original robot named "Victorion".
The video cutscene featuring Victorion's transformation sequence can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-4aSbqFg_Y

My apologies if this information bothers you in any way; for some reason when I brought this up in 4chan I was accused of "trolling" for pointing out the existence of a previous character with the same name. I just thought it needed bringing up; not trying to cause trouble here.

It's nice that there's going to be more females added to the TF cast. Gotta admit, however, that it doesn't increase in interest in this Combiner at all. Unless some of these turn out to be based off the Autobots from the G1 cartoon. I really want plastic representations of those.

Now, how about adding some women to the Decepticons?

william-james88 wrote:While this is great news, I cannot help but feel that this was planned all along. Jerry Jivoins said in all his intereviews that the combiner "could" be female well before the vote ever went live.

Given that there were two choices, and that there's so much known demand for more female characters in the brand without really having to look very hard for it, I don't think there's a conspiracy theory to be had here. Sorry.

Well, it is a Hasbro/Takara Tomy venture, most of the tooling and engineering comes from takara's departments, so i'd assume yes. Even then, doesn't the name trademark for a toy differ from a video game character.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Probably going to be called sexist for this but its not like I hate female transformers or anything I'm just annoyed that the fan made ones are always female it reminds me of awful Deviantart OCs.

I apologize for the numerous angry replies you're going to get, including this one:

DUDE. The only freaking way Transformers is going to appeal to a wider audience beyond older fans and 6-12 year-olds is if they diversify their cast of characters to appeal to those of the opposite sex. I love OCs if they are well thought out. Take Mindmaster (creation of Mindmaster), normally I scoff at OC bots, but he's got a huge backstory for him and a defined personality! Now obviously Mindmaster is not a female character, but I've seen a number of interesting female OC Transformers on DA and other art sites. These characters are sometimes given a unique personality or backstory, but they are sometimes created with not much development and are just intended to be "shipped" with a favorite male character.

MrBlack wrote:Then you can buy one of the FOUR other combiners currently set for release that are male, rather than the ONE pending female combiner.

Oh yeah I sure have never thought of that what a genius idea.


Maybe I don't like the other combiners besides Superion and the rumored and hinted but not confirmed Bruticus.


Like I said I don't hate female Transformers hell I like Windblade but there is just something about this one that really bugs me and I don't know what.

Madeus Prime wrote:I apologize for the numerous angry replies you're going to get, including this one:

DUDE. The only freaking way Transformers is going to appeal to a wider audience beyond older fans and 6-12 year-olds is if they diversify their cast of characters to appeal to those of the opposite sex. I love OCs if they are well thought out. Take Mindmaster (creation of Mindmaster), normally I scoff at OC bots, but he's got a huge backstory for him and a defined personality! Now obviously Mindmaster is not a female character, but I've seen a number of interesting female OC Transformers on DA and other art sites. These characters are sometimes given a unique personality or backstory, but they are sometimes created with not much development and are just intended to be "shipped" with a favorite male character.

Yes I'm sorry about my post but the results of the voting is giving me a really ominous feeling about the future of the Transformers franchise.



Just something really off about this combiner.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I'm so very disappointed that the new combiner is female.





Hopefully we don't get a third fan made bot either that or have no gender option and have the next one be male for once.




Probably going to be called sexist for this but its not like I hate female transformers or anything I'm just annoyed that the fan made ones are always female it reminds me of awful Deviantart OCs.

Do you know why people are voting for females? Because there are so few female characters in Transformers fiction. There are about a hundred major male characters and only 10 or so major female ones across all iterations of the franchise. In a given series, maybe 2 characters out of a cast of dozens will be female. If Transformers are going to be an analogue for human problems (which they are), they should represent humanity a little better.

Wheeljack808 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:I can't even BEGIN to describe how awesome this news is. I can't wait to see what they all look like and what alternate modes they will have.

We already know what their alt modes will be since it was voted for and chosen. Just read the previous pages of this thread. Each of these is coming from a mold that is already coming out.


Oh and I will follow the advice and stay positive. It could well be that Hasbro will be really good at retooling and making shells that make these fembots truly a toy of their own.

Okay total noob question here but I'm still relatively new to posting here. Where exactly are these older pages of this thread? I can't seem to find the link to them.

If you're looking at the article from the homepage, click the link at the top that says "view discussion". That will take you to the forum thread and you can go back a few pages to find the discussion on what molds are being used for this combiner. FYI it was two jets, two cars, and an undefined torso.

That Bot wrote:Do you know why people are voting for females? Because there are so few female characters in Transformers fiction. There are about a hundred major male characters and only 10 or so major female ones across all iterations of the franchise. In a given series, maybe 2 characters out of a cast of dozens will be female. If Transformers are going to be an analogue for human problems (which they are), they should represent humanity a little better.

I'm pretty sure that female action figures don't sell well considering some toy lines got canned because not many people buy them.

I don't know which molds were chosen via the poles, but just looking at who is on my desk, I see a few who I would pass as female with no retooling/resculpting.
Dragstrip is nice and curvy. Off Road's torso could be feminine. Firefly and Alpha Bravo could easily pass as female too.
I don't know why fembots need boobs to be female. They're not nursing any robo babies. The star ship Enterprise has a female voice, but no boobs. Though she does have a nice set of nacelles.

For the sake of breaking down gender BS, maybe it's time we redefine what it means to be a fembot.

I'm assuming these are going to be brand new characters. Shame as I would've liked to see some established characters in the combiner (Beta and Firestar never got toys, did they? Elita-1 could use a new toy, Minerva too)

Cobotron wrote:I don't know which molds were chosen via the poles, but just looking at who is on my desk, I see a few who I would pass as female with no retooling/resculpting.
Dragstrip is nice and curvy. Off Road's torso could be feminine. Firefly and Alpha Bravo could easily pass as female too.
I don't know why fembots need boobs to be female. They're not nursing any robo babies. The star ship Enterprise has a female voice, but no boobs. Though she does have a nice set of nacelles.

For the sake of breaking down gender BS, maybe it's time we redefine what it means to be a fembot.

We know for a fact that the limbs will consist of two jets and two cars




For the torso Hot Spot and Silverbolt were the choices and since people did not know what Hot Spot looked like at the time I'm sure that Hop Spot will be the mold chosen which is good since it's better then the Silverbolt mold anyways.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:But seriously why do you guys care about them looking feminine anyways outside of perverted reasons which I hope is not the case.

There's nothing "perverted" about wanting female characters to have a more traditional looking female form. Variety is great too.

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm assuming these are going to be brand new characters. Shame as I would've liked to see some established characters in the combiner (Beta and Firestar never got toys, did they? Elita-1 could use a new toy, Minerva too)

It was confirmed from the start that the combiner would be new Characters.




Wouldn't be a fan created bot if it was preexisting bots now would it?