Details on Upcoming Transformers Legacy Crankcase

An update of the one Triggercon who didn't become a part of Thunder Mayhem?! Yes, please!

Oh huh, he won't be a retool of Skids? I hope I'm not reading this wrong heheh, but that's honestly good that Crankcase will be getting proper love instead of being a sloppy second head swap.

Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

That toy was originally meant to be in the 2008-2009 Universe line, but Walmart demanded more Movie toys, so Hasbro gave Crankcase, Fracture, Breakaway, Jolt, Big Daddy, Divebomb, and Grindcore all Movie packaging ad toy bios to satisfy Walmart's demands.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

To be fair, the Cybertron redecoes in that line were originally intended to be Universe-branded but Mall-Wart wanted them in the movie packaging instead.

But yes, that was a decent effort. Red Alert has a similar backpack, and his Cyber Key cannons mean that Crankcase's original gimmick is preserved, so it worked out very well!

I will be interested to see this Crankcase, although I'm surprised he got in ahead of Needlenose or Sureshot.

SpaceEagle wrote:Oh huh, he won't be a retool of Skids? I hope I'm not reading this wrong heheh, but that's honestly good that Crankcase will be getting proper love instead of being a sloppy second head swap.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

Leakers said Crankcase would be a new mold back in September.

Considering Hasbro already seems to be taking Override-from-Hot-Rod from 3rd-party stuff, I'm hoping this guy leads to a new Ironfist in addition to looking good in his own right.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Oh huh, he won't be a retool of Skids? I hope I'm not reading this wrong heheh, but that's honestly good that Crankcase will be getting proper love instead of being a sloppy second head swap.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

Leakers said Crankcase would be a new mold back in September.

Considering Hasbro already seems to be taking Override-from-Hot-Rod from 3rd-party stuff, I'm hoping this guy leads to a new Ironfist in addition to looking good in his own right.

Ah, right, forgot about the leaks saying that. Personally I'd much rather prefer a new mold for Ironfist if HasTak loves us that much...an Ironfist from Crankcase wouldn't be bad as long as they made it look more like a Humvee (as much as genericism allows, of course )

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Oh huh, he won't be a retool of Skids? I hope I'm not reading this wrong heheh, but that's honestly good that Crankcase will be getting proper love instead of being a sloppy second head swap.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

Leakers said Crankcase would be a new mold back in September.

Considering Hasbro already seems to be taking Override-from-Hot-Rod from 3rd-party stuff,

Idiotically so, considering the different transformation of that 3P Hot Rod.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm hoping this guy leads to a new Ironfist in addition to looking good in his own right.

Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

SpaceEagle wrote:Ah, right, forgot about the leaks saying that. Personally I'd much rather prefer a new mold for Ironfist if HasTak loves us that much...an Ironfist from Crankcase wouldn't be bad as long as they made it look more like a Humvee (as much as genericism allows, of course )

Oh I would prefer a new mold as well, I'm just attempting to keep my hopes realistic and would gladly take Ironfist being a retool if the alternative is no Ironfist. They already turned Spinister into Rotorstorm and people were speculating the currently unspecified Bulkhead reuse in the Wreckers exclusives could be Pyro, I feel like this would be in line with those.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Idiotically so, considering the different transformation of that 3P Hot Rod.

Your irrational hatred of the figure no one has seen yet has been well-documented by this point, yes.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist). As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm). Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

This talk of who would be the better base mold for Ironfist has reminded me we never got an Earth mode Hound. That's a bit strange, given Hasbro used the Jeep license for Offroad Bumblebee. Maybe they only had the license for use with that specific figure? Oh well, he's probably in the cards for release in the next few years anyway.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Idiotically so, considering the different transformation of that 3P Hot Rod.

Your irrational hatred of the figure no one has seen yet has been well-documented by this point, yes.

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Unless there's an extreme degree of alternate tooling baked into the mold, there is no way that SS86 Hot Rod can become anything more than a sloppy second head swap (to borrow your term) Override. The transformation design is too different. The build of the arms and legs is too different.
The 3P thing worked because in modelling Hot Rod's IDW design the look and transformation scheme wound up being close to Override's (curvy, feet at the front, etc). That is not the case with SS86 Hot Rod. SS86 Hot Rod's design bends over backwards and cheats with a faux-parts chest (that there is zero room to swap with a convincing imitation of Override's cockpit chest) to get a hyper screen-accurate Hot Rod in both robot and vehicle modes, and is thus inherently specialized to that. He could be retooled into an okay Hot Shot (because Cybertron Hot Shot was himself a heavy homage to Hot Rod, to the point of having a stylized representation of Hot Rod's hood chest in robot mode), but Override? I don't see how that's happening in any sort of satisfactory way. An angularized Override as a heavy retool of SIEGE Springer seems more feasible than pulling off a good one from SS86 Hot Rod (although only so much of an improvement).
And it bugs me that they're branding the line "Velocitron" but apparently phoning in Override.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist).

Considering that mold would need to be reshelled at asbolute minimum to be repurposed at all anyway, hopefully it would come with better arms if it did. And why would it be too big?

Nemesis Primal wrote:As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm).

I dunno, SIEGE Hound's silhouette seems closer to a Humvee than Crankcase's Land Cruiser-esque silhouette (assuming his new toy retains that).

Nemesis Primal wrote:Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

How so? What Ironfist had was a big turret that became a stand-supported gun, so neither is super-close there IMO.

I mean, Hasbro has already shown with Prime Arcee and Bulkhead that they're willing to make unfaithful redesigns of non-G1 characters to give them a more G1 aesthetic. Chances are Override will be similarly G1-ified to look only kinda like her original Cybertron design.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist). As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm). Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

Yep, I know I really don't like it. And it's impossible for Hasbro to reuse it for anything else since the mold was made as a movie license making it completely off limits to use as anything other than a JP figure. Legally a regular figure can be made into a licensed figure, but you can't go the other way around. They could recreate the transformation for another figure, but it would have to be completely new parts (and maybe not be half assed with a bunch of shortcuts and clear plastic hinges).

Emerje

I'd have to agree that Hound would make for a good Ironfist retool. Even if it wouldn't be perfect, it still has the design of "big rugged army vehicle" that would still suit him. Might come at the cost of being a measly head swap but...it at least would be a logical swap, methinks.
Would love it if they did more retooling so he resembles the original figure more heheh.

Sabrblade wrote:I mean, Hasbro has already shown with Prime Arcee and Bulkhead that they're willing to make unfaithful redesigns of non-G1 characters to give them a more G1 aesthetic. Chances are Override will be similarly G1-ified to look only kinda like her original Cybertron design.

hmm, with this in mind, now I'm definitely believing they'll just give us a repaint botch job with SS86 Hottie Roddie into Override...
They'll probably change the faux chest at most so it resembles her windshield with the new head (and new paint apps, of course), then call it a day.
At least it's better than nothing...right?

Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

Because they made fembots a thing. Especially for those who looks feminine.
So we care about their genders because they ARE gendered.
The Transformers are no Daleks nor Cybermen.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

Because they made fembots a thing. Especially for those who looks feminine.
So we care about their genders because they ARE gendered.
The Transformers are no Daleks nor Cybermen.

I was speaking metaphorically, I think we're all well aware about how awkwardly fembots were introduced in the cartoon

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

Because they made fembots a thing. Especially for those who looks feminine.
So we care about their genders because they ARE gendered.
The Transformers are no Daleks nor Cybermen.

I was speaking metaphorically, I think we're all well aware about how awkwardly fembots were introduced in the cartoon

If you mean in the G1 show, sure, it was awkward as heck. As if the producers were... shy... to introduce fembots. It's even more apparent when the planned G1 Arcee toy never went pass the prototype stage.

Then in Cybertron, there was that ONE fembot, Thunderblast. But the Americans felt there were not enough females so they dubbed in some more by gender-swapping characters that were male in the Japanese show. That was quite forced.

One thing that I should have found cringe is Skywarp's gender-swap in Cyberverse. But it worked perfectly because those seekers were almost at a 50/50 female and male ratio and it felt natural. Also, that big burly and idiotic fembot Clobber was quite refreshing.

Oh, might as well shill for this old video that I made:

Ah well, doesn't matter to me one bit if there's """forced""" female casting.
As long as the toys are good, who cares?

And so, I hope the Crankcase toy and Override toy will be enjoyable. Especially Crankcase's, the little guy needed something after all these years! I still got that one Windsweeper toy redecoed from Skydive, maybe this'll finally incline me to get that Ruckus toy made from Offroad (who was supposed to be Ruckus from the get-go, how ironic!)

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Unless there's an extreme degree of alternate tooling baked into the mold, there is no way that SS86 Hot Rod can become anything more than a sloppy second head swap (to borrow your term) Override. The transformation design is too different. The build of the arms and legs is too different.
The 3P thing worked because in modelling Hot Rod's IDW design the look and transformation scheme wound up being close to Override's (curvy, feet at the front, etc). That is not the case with SS86 Hot Rod. SS86 Hot Rod's design bends over backwards and cheats with a faux-parts chest (that there is zero room to swap with a convincing imitation of Override's cockpit chest) to get a hyper screen-accurate Hot Rod in both robot and vehicle modes, and is thus inherently specialized to that. He could be retooled into an okay Hot Shot (because Cybertron Hot Shot was himself a heavy homage to Hot Rod, to the point of having a stylized representation of Hot Rod's hood chest in robot mode), but Override? I don't see how that's happening in any sort of satisfactory way. An angularized Override as a heavy retool of SIEGE Springer seems more feasible than pulling off a good one from SS86 Hot Rod (although only so much of an improvement).
And it bugs me that they're branding the line "Velocitron" but apparently phoning in Override.

See, you're pre-judging the figure based on a gripe you have with the Hot Rod mold and the fact that you at least seem to want as close to 100% accuracy to the original Override design as possible, or at least that's how it reads to me. I am waiting to see the actual figure before making these kinds of judgements, since I don't care about 100% accuracy, I just care about it looking good to me and looking enough like Override to work for me. Considering the Velocitron line is supposed to be the replacement for the Netflix line, and the Netflix line had the retooling budget to replace 3/4ths of Soundwave's parts, I have belief that they CAN make a decent Override in this scenario, we just have to wait and see. They're using Warpath to make Cosmos, radical retools seem to clearly be on the table here.

I also don't have SS86 Hot Rod (nothing against the figure, I just don't care enough about Hot Rod to replace the TR one), but I would think having a fake chest would actually make it easier to swap that part for a more accurate chest piece, would it not?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering that mold would need to be reshelled at asbolute minimum to be repurposed at all anyway, hopefully it would come with better arms if it did. And why would it be too big?

From what I've seen, that mold is around Hoist/Ironhide/Rotorstorm height, so the large end of Deluxe, whereas Ironfist's only media appearances in the comics have put him at average Deluxe height or below and definitively shorter than Rotorstorm.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I dunno, SIEGE Hound's silhouette seems closer to a Humvee than Crankcase's Land Cruiser-esque silhouette (assuming his new toy retains that).

If we're going for as-accurate-an-Ironfist-as-possible (which is I think what you're arguing for, but again, I could be misconstruing that), then they would still have to retool the whole backpack if not half the figure to give it an enclosed cab and the boxier back half. I don't see Hasbro doing that and a new head for a comic-only character like Ironfist unless that remold was planned from the start, and I'm assuming the remold that would be planned for Hound would be a more-G1 Earth mode version, which isn't the same Jeep and wouldn't solve most of that. Crankcase is already a self-enclosed boxy Jeep-thing, at least, so the only retooling needed would be the new head and maybe a fake hood-chest panel (if they didn't just paint it on like Rotorstorm).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:How so? What Ironfist had was a big turret that became a stand-supported gun, so neither is super-close there IMO.

It was, but 90% of the time it was shown in the comics he just carried it around as a backpack. I'm pretty sure he only used it in Wreckers once and it was right at the beginning, and I think he used it more in the FunPub stuff but that's had way less exposure. With that in mind, then if they do Ironfist as a minimal-remolding new head repaint like Rotorstorm, I assume they would go for him having a big gun backpack but not actually prioritize it being functional as a removable turret. Depending on how they implement Crankcase, they may at the very least match in terms of having large gun backpacks and/or a way to plug the large rifle into the backpack to make a large gun backpack. Hound, meanwhile, has no real way of making his guns stick up over his head if you plug them into his back unless you use both of them pegged together (I checked on Selects Hot Shot a ways back), let alone a bulky backpack.

I agree about forcing gender-swapping for the sake of it being ridiculous, but since the new figure will be called Override, it should have the original's pronoun. If it had been (and it should have been) called Nitro Convoy, or even Nitro Prime, since Convoy is mainly a Japanese designation, obviously it would have been a dude.

I'm curious regarding the supposed Hot Rod retool, as I also believe Blurr would have worked better. And since Thunderblast was mentioned, I would love an update on her as well. Knockers and all.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm curious regarding the supposed Hot Rod retool, as I also believe Blurr would have worked better. And since Thunderblast was mentioned, I would love an update on her as well. Knockers and all.

I don't think they will ever make the... finer details, but I do hope an updated Thunderblast will be "hot" and FEMININE like ER Arcee. Backpack and shellforming be damned.



No Legacy Arcee like pretool shenanigans please.

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I could see Ironfist from Siege Hound in both modes, but for me he would be a bit too big. Continuing with Hound, it is kinda strange we didnt get an earth mode one. I still use Universe Hound in my collection cause, to me, it is still by far the best Hound made. I really want a new Ironfist as well. Also I see why people are putting him and Crankcase as mould mates cause of those 3rd party ones years ago. But even if that Ironfist was great, it made the Crankcase repaint, not that great. They are just too different. Although with the way has been doing these heavy remoulds, they may be able to pull it off. Ironfist and Pyro are two figures I would really like to have.

After reading the IDW 2.0 Transformers comics, a character I way, way really want a figure of is Geomotus. Just think he is super cool looking. Size and shape wise, he may be able to be remoulded from a Crankcase or Ironfist, if they dont share a mould. Far as I know Geomotus is a new character created for IDW 2.0. I havent checked the wiki or anything yet. Plus I never heard of him before and I have either watched/read nearly everything Transformers.

That Tom Hardy/Mad Max meme is the gift that keeps on giving, lol

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

That toy was originally meant to be in the 2008-2009 Universe line, but Walmart demanded more Movie toys, so Hasbro gave Crankcase, Fracture, Breakaway, Jolt, Big Daddy, Divebomb, and Grindcore all Movie packaging ad toy bios to satisfy Walmart's demands.

Yup, and we got some really good repaints out of it.

Big Daddy and Fracture where fantastic uses of those molds along with Crankcase.

What I'm saying, is it was a really good attempt. We'll see what the Legacy version brings to the table.

Picked up Bulkhead and Kickback at Target today. Scalewise, Bulkhead is only shorter than Rodimus at the head level, which sort of gives credence to some kind of Optimus retool. As Voyagers, they're bigger than the previous voyagers. While Bulkhead's scale works fine, I think Blaster is a bit too tall, but I can live with it.

All 3 core class figures and buzzworthy silverstreak are in stock as part of this week's friday restock on pulse.

Grabbed an Iquanus.

My Target right now. Dragstrip is coming home. Maybe even Galvatron.

Found the Legacy voyagers and picked up Blaster yesterday. I expected him to be good based on what I'd already seen, but he's honestly blown my expectations away. Since he's a bigger voyager, I thought he'd be a bit light and hollow feeling, but he feels like one of the most solid figures I've bought in the last few years, especially in the legs. He's a simple figure in concept, but everything about him is super well done. I even like his headsculpt. Even though I'd still prefer a Marvel/toy accurate head, the face on this one gives off the same ultra-hardcore vibes as his comic appearances. I hate to throw the word "perfect" around, but Blaster may be one of those very rare, virtually perfect figures. Early contender for toy of the year for me.

And that doesn't even mention Eject. I like him more than I thought I would too, he's pretty fun. I just wish he wasn't clear plastic and/or some of his parts weren't as thin, but as long as he doesn't break, it's fine.

Anyone else have trouble getting their Skid's roof to slot into place? One of mine's back corners refuses to stay put, it pops right back out.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Anyone else have trouble getting their Skid's roof to slot into place? One of mine's back corners refuses to stay put, it pops right back out.

Emerje

The corners are fine with mine, but I'm having a hard time with the hinge under the windshield that connects to his head. I gotta be very gentle when trying to put it (and the roof) in place in vehicle mode. I thought it was the corner tabs as well, but it's the hinge itself.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Anyone else have trouble getting their Skid's roof to slot into place? One of mine's back corners refuses to stay put, it pops right back out.

Emerje

The corners are fine with mine, but I'm having a hard time with the hinge under the windshield that connects to his head. I gotta be very gentle when trying to put it (and the roof) in place in vehicle mode. I thought it was the corner tabs as well, but it's the hinge itself.

I was having that issue at first, but realized it was a lot easier if I did the front of the windshield right after lifting up the front end to get the head out of the way. Everything just pops into place, but that back corner just wont stay down.

Emerje

One of my Targets had legacy figures for Bulkhead, Blaster, Prime Arcee, and Skids. I walked away with Skids. Keeping an eye out for Dragstrip and Kickback.

It's been a while since the last Seibertron.com Galleries, but the most recent version of Laser Rod Optimus Prime gave us little choice but to start up the gallery machine yet again. Behold -- almost 250 photos of the all-new Leader Class Laser Optimus Prime from the brand new Transformers Legacy toy line!

The all-new Laser Optimus Prime gives a modern update to G2 Laser Rod Optimus Prime. While the toy takes a few ques from Earthrise Optimus Prime, it is mostly a brand new figure. While it's tough to top the original G2 Laser Rod Optimus Prime, Legacy Laser Optimus Prime tries it's best. This version has the expected sword accessory, a new axe accessory that fits in with the theme of Legacy, and has a cannon that attaches to the base mode which can also be used as a hand-held accessory.

The camera didn't stop with Laser Optimus Prime either. This was a fantastic opportunity to take a comprehensive look at Generations Selects WFC-GS14 Megatron, which homages G2 Megatron in all of his green with purple 1990s-styled camouflaged glory. This version of Megatron is a recolor of the Transformers Earthrise Voyager Class Megatron.

Laser Optimus Prime just started showing up at retail and is available online. Selects G2 Megatron was an online exclusive. Both can be found from various online retailers. Selects G2 Megatron is currently available at the Seibertron Store.

Check out both galleries using the image links below and share your thoughts about both figures on the Energon Pub forums. Enjoy!

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Transformers Legacy Laser Optimus Prime (249 images) - Leader Class




























Generations Selects G2 Megatron (130 images) - Voyager Class

Looks awesome, can't believe they retooled op's legs and didn't remove his extraneous trailer hitch, it's really annoying

Nice gallery! Though personally I think the original and the TR versions are superior to this new version at least looks-wise in robot mode. Vehicle modes can't really be compared, the TR figure incorporates the tanker, the others don't. The trailer might be the best part of the Legacy release. Still a nice figure.

Found Legacy Galvatron at one of the Targets near me. Hoping that they'll get the others soon, I'm really itching to get started on the Stunticons and pick up the Prime Universe fellas

Nice gallery. Where as photos of golden disc tigertron totally put me off a figure these have done the opposite on two figures I was never keen on.

I have the original g2 prime and it seemed a much big figure so to see this optimus nearly as tall is nice. The lack of red on the knees and the tankors sticker is still kind of annoying but as per the norm of hasbro encouraging third party add ons. I'm also not keen on the shape of legacies feet but that's because I'm picky more than anything else. I really like the TR version and don't really need a third (technically Forth as I have the old deluxe to get rid of somewhere) g2 prime but I'd be tempted now.

G2 megs looks decent in robot mode but like prime I have the original and purple TR and artic selects. Selects Tank mode is still a let down for me in the green coloring as details are out of place compared to the original but I think if you get legacy prime he is kind of a must to go with him.

If hasbro goes all weird and releases g2 prime in heroic colors for selects rather than as magnus I think I'll be picking one up

Can’t wait for Scourge or Nemesis version.

Looking good! I'm always down for a G2 Optimus, really looking forward to finding him in stores.

I need to get myself a G2 Megatron, somehow I've gone all this time without one despite having the purple Combat Hero version.

I have all three Generations G2 Megatrons, all using different molds (green from the Earthrise mold, purple from the Titans Return/Legends mold and gray from the Siege mold) which is pretty neat.

Emerje

Prime looks fantastic! I'll be waiting for Scourge, but I'm very much looking forward to him.

Definitely love seeing him next to Generation Selects G2 Megatron. I originally passed on purchasing the G2 Megatron. This just might entice me to purchase him to have him alongside Optimus Prime once i find him in the store.

A Scourge version would definitely look great along with a Laser Ultra Magnus version. If in fact HasTak would make the other two they would look great alongside the original releases which i own. I know the Laser UM was a e-Hobby exclusive release but still it would look great in those colors too.

I would think Toyhax would come up with or plans to release a sticker set for G2 Optimus Prime; giving homage to the original G2 version, especially for the trailer.


SGM

The deco that would interest me most would be Toxitron.

Man I was really, super excited for Legacy G2 Prime when I heard about it. After seeing it, I am not much at all. I wish they hadnt re-used those legs, the new Bulkhead legs would have looked awesome on G2 Prime. I dont like the upper shoulders have no articulation, his proportions are just too off for me. His upper body/chest is too small; vertically and horizontally. This gallery is great but seeing Legacy G2 Prime next to the original just shows off how cool looking the original is and how strange proportionally Legacy one is. None of those poses look good, and its not Seibertron's fault, its just Prime's awkward look. I understand how some would say Im being nit-picky, but its just a lot of small things that add up to me. I may end up buying the OG one. I wanted to like the new one and planned on using him as my upgrade Optimus to match Selects Ultra Megatron.

I too am very much looking forward to the Velocitron line's release of this mold as Black Convoy (presumably, they wanna keep the name "Scourge" assigned to the Sweep leader, and so are using the Japanese name instead).

The first question anyone asks whenever a toy from one line is reissued in another is: "is there anything different?" And the answer this time is YES. This Galvatron does not have those extra battle damage paint apps. The canon is also left full clear with no additional paint on it. Here are two images below comparing both modes. They come with a quick review from Ziltama who posted that here.

This is what we should've had in the first place: correct shoulders and no nonsensical battle damage.

This is just a mini-review that goes over differences between the Legacy and Kingdom versions of Galvatron. The main obvious difference is that all the "battle damage" has been removed. Granted, the way it was done on the Kingdom version didn't make a whole lot of sense, and sometimes, less is more. The "battle damage" marks have been removed the cannon, forearms, chest, and lower legs. The bare plastic and paint colors are otherwise the same.

I have noticed that various joints are indeed tighter, including the hips and skirt flaps. This was a pleasant change to find.

...and that's it. The accessories are the same, so didn't include pics of those.

Is this worth $50 to double dip again? Probably not, unless your Kingdom version had various QC issues and/or the incorrectly assembled shoulders...and you really, really like Galvatron.

Not sure if this is the start of a trend for Hasbro to re-release figures again with slight changes. It's one thing if it's on a cheap figure, but this is a $50 Leader Class figure. That's a bit steep.

It's nice that Legacy Galvatron is cleaned up. But not nice enough to pay another $50+ to get a second copy. Like many others, I fixed the shoulders on my copy of Kingdom Galvatron, so he's OK now. The differences in paint aren't worth double-dipping on this figure, at least not IMO.