Comparison Images for Transformers WFC Siege Voyagers Optimus Prime and Megatron

Sentinel_Primal wrote: I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote: I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote: I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

I was just meaning will he be present in Brick and Mortar or will he be an "online exclusive" cause stores wouldn't pick up a figure of that size and waste shelf space on him

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote: I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

I was just meaning will he be present in Brick and Mortar or will he be an "online exclusive" cause stores wouldn't pick up a figure of that size and waste shelf space on him

well did Predaking get a brick and mortar release?

Sabrblade wrote:

Shredd the Dinobot wrote:I wasn't sure how to ask or if you get notified by who quotes you or what, I'm completely brand new to the forum but I was curious if the new Prime could store the POTP Matrix in his chest, or atleast the matrix block minus the handles?

According to this Tweet, the Matrix core by itself can fit inside the space where the robot head goes, most likely by coincidence rather than intent.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Wait, Wal-Mart stopped carrying Leader classes?? I thought that was just the Wal-Marts out here in the Midwest not getting supplies. Didn't know it was a general Wal-Mart thing

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Wait, Wal-Mart stopped carrying Leader classes?? I thought that was just the Wal-Marts out here in the Midwest not getting supplies. Didn't know it was a general Wal-Mart thing

I believe they only have Studio Series Leaders now, with unsold stock of Blackout and Grimlock. PotP, all gone.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

This is 100% incorrect. Titans Return was carried at Target and Walmart as well as other big box stores. Toys R Us didn't have anything unique about Titans Return or any other recent mainline Transformers series.

Seibertron wrote:This is incorrect as well, if I'm reading these messages correctly. I bought a 2nd Leader Class Rodimus Prime at Walmart not too long ago so that I could have Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. Hoping to do the same with a discounted Optimus Prime here in the near future.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

But Classics Optimus was the first ever voyager class toy. So how could it be an undersized voyager back in its day?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

But Classics Optimus was the first ever voyager class toy. So how could it be an undersized voyager back in its day?

The Voyager class began in the Cybertron line, right before Classics.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

But Classics Optimus was the first ever voyager class toy. So how could it be an undersized voyager back in its day?

The Voyager class began in the Cybertron line, right before Classics.

Ah dammit, of course it did. How could i forget.

Fireback wrote:E.g. I was happy to see such A Negative backlash to TiTans Starfire being cast as Anna Diop (who is A Lovely black woman) BUT,,, She's not built for an Iconic Character like Teen Titans Starfire! Who's an Upper Eschelon "comic babe". Alittle tiny, cute & petite black chic is far from A 6ft. Miami Beach; Banging Red head broad w/ A Really bad orange tan. Which she's been for almost 50yrs. Thus I was happy My YouTube video "Teen Titans trailer Trash" (see: "5 Fold Understanding" YouTube) Went over really well w/ people....

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

But Classics Optimus was the first ever voyager class toy. So how could it be an undersized voyager back in its day?

The Voyager class began in the Cybertron line, right before Classics.

Ah dammit, of course it did. How could i forget, it has the greatest voyager figure of all time.

DeathReviews wrote:I know without G1 Megatron, we wouldn't have the much BETTER Megatrons that we have today. But I can't help wondering if Hasbro looks at the original toy, shakes their heads and wonders, 'What the heck were we THINKING?'

And not because he turned into a pistol. But because the robot mode was so embarrassingly bad. Those floppy extend-o-hips, the stubby arms, that horrible coffee table crotch, and the pull trigger in his groin which was the source of so much juvenile locker-room joking...

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

This is 100% incorrect. Titans Return was carried at Target and Walmart as well as other big box stores. Toys R Us didn't have anything unique about Titans Return or any other recent mainline Transformers series.

Titan Class, not Titans return.

DeathReviews wrote:I know without G1 Megatron, we wouldn't have the much BETTER Megatrons that we have today. But I can't help wondering if Hasbro looks at the original toy, shakes their heads and wonders, 'What the heck were we THINKING?'

And not because he turned into a pistol. But because the robot mode was so embarrassingly bad. Those floppy extend-o-hips, the stubby arms, that horrible coffee table crotch, and the pull trigger in his groin which was the source of so much juvenile locker-room joking...

Caelus wrote:

Fireback wrote:E.g. I was happy to see such A Negative backlash to TiTans Starfire being cast as Anna Diop (who is A Lovely black woman) BUT,,, She's not built for an Iconic Character like Teen Titans Starfire! Who's an Upper Eschelon "comic babe". Alittle tiny, cute & petite black chic is far from A 6ft. Miami Beach; Banging Red head broad w/ A Really bad orange tan. Which she's been for almost 50yrs. Thus I was happy My YouTube video "Teen Titans trailer Trash" (see: "5 Fold Understanding" YouTube) Went over really well w/ people....

While color and build are important considerations for human characters because they influence a character's past experience, they're irrelevant to a character from outside Earth's social/cultural context.

Starfire is a chipper, polyamorous extraterrestrial powerhouse. Her sexual attitudes, behaviors, and relationships are part of her character; her color and shape are part of her (often insultingly lowbrow) marketing, not her character.

Also, "babe", "chic", and "broad"? Is patriarchal-bro considered a dialect now?

Alright I'm going to chime in again on this. Firstly I don't completely agree with you. I think that Starfire should have been cast as someone who does more closely resemble her usual design, at least in terms of skin tone. Before somebody calls me racist it probably would still be an African American woman that would match the best in terms of that (many of the cosplays of her out there are proof enough of that. That's also not to mention that her powers are nothing like those of the original character either from what we have seen. I do think she could use a less sexualised costume compared to the comics version in general but just because the old ones look stupid. Also I agree with you on the way he talks being stupid but I think I'd call it fifties asshole as opposed to what you called it.

There, now lets stop this conversation all together and get back on topic.

Seibertron wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I know without G1 Megatron, we wouldn't have the much BETTER Megatrons that we have today. But I can't help wondering if Hasbro looks at the original toy, shakes their heads and wonders, 'What the heck were we THINKING?'

And not because he turned into a pistol. But because the robot mode was so embarrassingly bad. Those floppy extend-o-hips, the stubby arms, that horrible coffee table crotch, and the pull trigger in his groin which was the source of so much juvenile locker-room joking...

First, I love that I forgot to extend G1 Megatron's arms for those pics. Ooops!

Second, I disagree about G1 Megatron or other similar robots being embarrassingly bad. I love the G1 Megatron. I love the look of a lot of Transformers who have elements of their alt mode used in clever ways in their robot modes. To me, that was always part of the charm. Having everything "hide" away to form a sleek robot mode that is evocative of their respective cartoon models is how we end up with a WFC Siege Voyager Class Optimus Prime that has to have a front bumper and grill section that isn't integrated into his robot mode or various Starscreams where the front of the jet no longer forms the middle of his front torso which is now faked unfortunately. "Form dictates function" shouldn't be a bad thing with Transformers. A little more emphasis on that could continue providing unique robot modes for future Transformers. Not everyone needs to have a standard humanoid robot form.

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

Caelus wrote:

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

It's not quite the ssame IMO - G1 Starscream and G1 Soundwave's chests are good example of altmode integration. Classics Prime's arm shields and Classic Megatron's butterfly wings are kibble.

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

Seibertron wrote:a standard humanoid robot form.

ScottyP wrote:

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

Kibble is the spice of life when it comes to Transformers. Too much can be a bad thing, but without enough you just have...

Seibertron wrote:a standard humanoid robot form.

And I'm not here for that. A sleek robot with a piece of a car sticking off is part of the charm. Without it, it doesn't look like they're trying to be "robots in disguise"!

william-james88 wrote:

Caelus wrote:

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

It's not quite the ssame IMO - G1 Starscream and G1 Soundwave's chests are good example of altmode integration. Classics Prime's arm shields and Classic Megatron's butterfly wings are kibble.

Agreed, well said and explained. Also regarding G1 Megatron, Hasbro had nothing to do with its design.

ScottyP wrote:

Skritz wrote:It's funny you say that because this same design standard is what, years ago, had people whining about overly large and intrusive 'kibble'.

Kibble is the spice of life when it comes to Transformers. Too much can be a bad thing, but without enough you just have...

Seibertron wrote:a standard humanoid robot form.

And I'm not here for that. A sleek robot with a piece of a car sticking off is part of the charm. Without it, it doesn't look like they're trying to be "robots in disguise"!

ZeroWolf wrote:But this Prime is designed to scale with all those in the siege line, basically if you're saying prime is too small, does that mean all the others are as well?

AcademyofDrX wrote:CW OP is maybe a fraction of an inch taller than TR OP, and in these images Siege OP is almost exactly the same height as that. They're all Voyagers, so that seems expected. And the Siege figure has much better proportions than those, especially with head size. He might not be the tallest Voyager ever, but I don't see how he's out of scale. If he has to be taller than all of the other Autobots, then I guess the Leader class is called for.

I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see it. I've seen multiple reviews that say he's coming in on the short side, but he looks right to me in this Seibertron feature and compared to the rest of the Siege figures.