Combiner Wars Leader Class Armada Megatron Pictorial

We now know that whirl, having no known weaknesses, could definitely beat armada megatron's one weakness butt in a fight.

I saw Armada Megatron listed as coming soon at HTS (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-generations-leader-class-armada-megatron-figure?BR=496&ID=33970), so I assume that he will be released shortly. I personally never liked Armada and won't be getting this, but I really like that silver G1 version. Hopefully the silver one won't be that hard to track down.

It doesn't look like it, but I wish there was a way to keep the head exposed in tank mode, not unlike the original Armada Megatron

Armada Megatron reminds me of Tankor in a way, a bad way, in how it's a "sterilized" version lacking all the goofy little toyetic gimmicks that nonetheless made the bot memorable.

At least Flathead is the right size.

Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

Vicalliose wrote:Ah the Constructicons. I guess it's nice to see Hasbro take a swing at Devastator, but it's still underwhelming. It's not all bad, I mean it is leagues ahead of what they've done with combiners up until this point, but then all the individual figures take major hits in ways that shouldn't even remotely have been an issue for their size class and budget. It's kinda depressing for them to come so close and yet still be so far.

Thee was a lot of discussion about this point in the Devastator thread, but I'll borrow a quote from myself:

That Bot wrote:Hasbro has made one of the largest combining robot toys ever here for only $150, and that's no small feat.

There are a lot of considerations that go into making something this big for this price which wouldn't go into six run of the mill non-combining voyagers at the same total price. For further reading:
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I hate that I have to buy both of these guys. I also hate that he is not at all in scale with Armada Screamer that just came out. Hopefully we at least get an Armada Prime update that scales really nicely.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....

Agamemnon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....

I've heard people say it both ways, but definitely not in a past tense.

"Rage" just makes more sense when battle is concerned, since it's not like the Autobots are always gambling their fights.

Sabrblade wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....

I've heard people say it both ways, but definitely not in a past tense.

"Rage" just makes more sense when battle is concerned, since it's not like the Autobots are always gambling their fights.

Oh, right. I used it in the past tense in my sentence, not as a direct quote, sorry. *sheepish grin*

And I was thinking how countries wage war on each other. TFwiki says "wage." *shrug*

Sabrblade wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.

"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....

I've heard people say it both ways, but definitely not in a past tense.

"Rage" just makes more sense when battle is concerned, since it's not like the Autobots are always gambling their fights.

Dosen't that make it sound like the autobots are the assholes in this? Aren't the Decepticons the aggressors in all of this. So wouldn't the Decepticons be raging war, while the autobots wage the war, considering they're continuing and reciprocating. After all the definition of wage in this context is to carry on.

Sabrblade wrote:

wage
wāj/

verb
1.
carry on (a war or campaign).
synonyms: engage in, carry on, conduct, execute, pursue, prosecute, proceed with

So, all the combiners are (will be) bought for me. My only real gripe is that Menasor doesn't really have an abdomen. It looks like his legs are sticking out of his chest. I'll display my Stunticons in individual robot modes. I'm getting two of the Arielbot sets (one Hasbro and the other Takara) - one for the individual Arielbots and one for Superion.

Passing on the Devastator. For such a large combiner, I think it could have been done better. Sure they all look decent, but I think the arms of the individual Constructicons put me off a bit...and the gimpy Mixmaster alt modes. I have Green Giant too, so he shall suffice.

Love the Defensor. Probably will be buying two sets of this as well.

Megatron(s), Cyclonus, Thundercracker, I think will have to be passes. I have the Apollyon 3rd party on pre-order, and I have the Masterpiece TC. Just not interested in the Cyclonus.

Really, I'm making a huge exception for the Combiner Wars stuff since I sold off all my CHUGs last year, vowing to only buy Masterpieces and the good 3rd Party stuff.

The Constructicons vary quite a bit in quality, but for the most part I think they're good. Bonecrusher and Scavenger are the best since being arms doesn't effect their bot and alt modes. Longhaul and Scrapper are the worst thanks to their over simplification. If Scrapper just had elbows instead of the stupid swivel he'd be one of the better figures. Hook and Mixmaster at least look good, but the elbows are awful. Vehicle modes are all great and Devastator is nearly perfect. Really want to know if the chest wings still go with Scrapper and if we see the return of the drills.

I guess I'm the only one that likes Cyclonus? The Deluxe figure is OK, but was never a huge fan of his needle nose alt mode. I love the Voyager's alt mode, it's almost perfect to the original figure. The bot mode is off, but I was never a big fan of Cyclonus' ears anyway. I'll probably give him Nightstick and do something else with the deluxe.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:The Constructicons vary quite a bit in quality, but for the most part I think they're good. Bonecrusher and Scavenger are the best since being arms doesn't effect their bot and alt modes. Longhaul and Scrapper are the worst thanks to their over simplification. If Scrapper just had elbows instead of the stupid swivel he'd be one of the better figures. Hook and Mixmaster at least look good, but the elbows are awful. Vehicle modes are all great and Devastator is nearly perfect. Really want to know if the chest wings still go with Scrapper and if we see the return of the drills.

I guess I'm the only one that likes Cyclonus? The Deluxe figure is OK, but was never a huge fan of his needle nose alt mode. I love the Voyager's alt mode, it's almost perfect to the original figure. The bot mode is off, but I was never a big fan of Cyclonus' ears anyway. I'll probably give him Nightstick and do something else with the deluxe.

Emerje

I think we all have to hold off fully prejudging Dev. At least until his release. Same thing happened to MP-BB. He actually came out very good despite his initial pictures.

So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

JustPlainME wrote:
Passing on the Devastator. For such a large combiner, I think it could have been done better. Sure they all look decent, but I think the arms of the individual Constructicons put me off a bit...and the gimpy Mixmaster alt modes. I have Green Giant too, so he shall suffice.

Obviously, CW Devastator is not meant for Hercs/Giant owners. It is for the collector who don't want to spend 300-500$ for a Constructicon combiner or the kid who just want to go pew pew pew. If one already own the ultimate (and very expensive) 3rd party Devastator, of course you would want to pass on the official release.

As for me, I'll go the official route. around 200$CAN shipped is the most money I wanna spend on a Devastator.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

I would argue that you can make a complete Superion using Silverbolt and any four random CW deluxes.
However, to answer the question you really meant, yes. the fourth deluxe plane is currently only going to be available from Takara if you really don't want a white and red Vortex on your Superion. Although I reject the idea that a helicopter (notably an aerial vehicle) does not belong on a team called the Aerialbots. It's a way to diversify the toy shelves, so instead of parents seeing 4 deluxe planes they see 3 and a helicopter and are more likely to buy the last member.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

I get it, to be fair. I like the comics before the toys, and have little attachment at all to G1, so Alpha Bravo does not jar at all with my idea of Superion.

The Takara version, however, has a repaint of one of the other jets as the fourth jet. If you're fine with having two of the same mold as limbs, that's what you want. And currently, the cheapest option it seems, too!

The Takara UW thread is here, for more: takara-transformers-unite-warriors-discussion-thread-t102999.php

I second Va'al here, and I also plan to scramble these up once I've got them all I'm hoping that all this Exposure will get alpha Bravo mote face time in the comics

Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

Yup. The Tomy version comes as a set.

I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)

Anyway...

That Armada Megatron is very disappointing and this is coming from Armada Megatron's A#1 fan. It really does lack a lot of the character that the Micron Legend version had. Really a shame, but nice to see the figure get a homage.

Counterpunch wrote:I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)

Anyway...

That Armada Megatron is very disappointing and this is coming from Armada Megatron's A#1 fan. It really does lack a lot of the character that the Micron Legend version had. Really a shame, but nice to see the figure get a homage.

He needs no homage, all Armada Megs needs are regular knees.

Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio.

i thought it was odd too. at least mention the minicons!

Counterpunch wrote:I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)

It would still be a double mold, either way!

Va'al wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

I get it, to be fair. I like the comics before the toys, and have little attachment at all to G1, so Alpha Bravo does not jar at all with my idea of Superion.

The Takara version, however, has a repaint of one of the other jets as the fourth jet. If you're fine with having two of the same mold as limbs, that's what you want. And currently, the cheapest option it seems, too!

The Takara UW thread is here, for more: takara-transformers-unite-warriors-discussion-thread-t102999.php

Don't forget that ToysRUs has Slingshot listed in their system as well as Wildrider so technically there WILL be 4 jet limbs. It will just be a matter of minor color differences between TakTomy and Hasbro.

shajaki wrote:Thanks to blogger Black Plastic Life, we now have in hand picture of Combiner Wars Leader Class Megatron! This figure is a retool of the Leader Megatron also in recent news who is more Generation 1 inspired. But if you're more interested in his Armada incarnation at the moment, take a look at his Bio!

For millions of years, Megatron has led fanatical legions of evil Decepticons on their war for conquest. A living weapon with dozens of modifications made in the name of increased power and destructive capabilities, his only weakness is his single-minded desire for the enslavement of the universe.

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Botcon Megazarak here we come. Although, I'd still prefer it from Energon Scorponok with that Headmaster gimmick.

alright, so its easy to coming from a mile away and it mustv been discussed already, but perhaps this new comic cover is the first indication that we're getting a leader starscream?

Starscream changes bodies AGAIN?!!

Sabrblade wrote:Starscream changes bodies AGAIN?!!

A recolor of TC from the Jetfire mold. Maybe that was already planned from the begining? TC a test if it sells?

I really don't mind the Jetfire mold for the seekers, the only thing it's lacking are the iconic air intake shoulder stack thingies. Design wise, those really define them as seekers.

Why is Skywarp always the last to get any love?

This is pretty easy to figure out. They just released Jetfire in that same body style... Starscream is too similar to that color scheme, being light gray and red... so they kick off the new series of seekers with a vastly different color seeker: Thundercracker.

I think the rest of the trio is inevitable.

Sabrblade wrote:Starscream changes bodies AGAIN?!!

Such a Diva!

Cobotron wrote:I really don't mind the Jetfire mold for the seekers, the only thing it's lacking are the iconic air intake shoulder stack thingies. Design wise, those really define them as seekers.

Why is Skywarp always the last to get any love?

Same boat here... Scale wise is my only beef... Would have loved it to be slightly smaller than Jetfire considering he is suppose to be so much larger, but heck I don't have to display them all together...

Either way it would seem if you have the MP Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp it would almost be useless other than getting a Generation Mold...

*Sigh* missing Starscream & Thundercracker...

My feeling here is Thundercracker won't stay on the shelves for long. Especially if they do a Starscream or Skywarp.

it's a cheap alternative to mp

Cobotron wrote:I really don't mind the Jetfire mold for the seekers, the only thing it's lacking are the iconic air intake shoulder stack thingies. Design wise, those really define them as seekers.

Why is Skywarp always the last to get any love?

huh... *looks back*... i thought TC had faux shoulder stacks. lame!

SW is probably last because the black/purple deco is thrle prettiest. it makes more sense to put the worst foot forward first in this instance. people want to experience the mold, so theyll settle for TC rather than wait for the iconic SS, or cutee-pie SW.

*not to discout current IDW TC fans*

KnightAero wrote:*Sigh* missing Starscream & Thundercracker...

MP? Me too.

peaces wrote:it's a cheap alternative to mp

Been my plan all along.

Of course there may be that instance were Shockwave zaps 'em with a Giganto Ray so they can go toe to toe with Superion and the likes. Who knows what adventure lays ahead?
(I liketh to play wif my toys)

Cobotron wrote:

KnightAero wrote:*Sigh* missing Starscream & Thundercracker...

MP? Me too.

peaces wrote:it's a cheap alternative to mp

Been my plan all along.

Of course there may be that instance were Shockwave zaps 'em with a Giganto Ray so they can go toe to toe with Superion and the likes. Who knows what adventure lays ahead?
(I liketh to play wif my toys)

I am finding that "waiting" on certain Transformers is a bad idea... Which I waited to get MP Starscream & Thundercracker (I had seen them at Walmart too!!) Now I am kicking myself as they go for any where from $140-$200+

I do plan on using TC as a "in between" while I wait to get MP TC...

Meh, ruins the uniqueness of Jetfire. That might just be the geewunner in me though.

I wish someone wouldn't have pointed out the missing seeker shoulder bits. That makes these about as accurate as Cloud Starscream, in my book. The shoulder bits are kinda important.

Really, I think Hasbro needs to make a big chart showing the important features for each character... That way they wouldn't miss important features like the visor on Jazz (upcoming RID release) or the missing faceplate on Grimlock. Really, it seems like they just started going all willy nilly with the characters' faces. Faceplates are on and off in various versions of figures in the same line. Strongarm and Grimlock flip back and forth.

Seriously, that's how we IDENTIFY these characters. Quit changing the way they look. Sheesh. There are some really simple features that should be consistent across a character, even as it changes color, vehicle mode, etc.

You don't see that on other tv shows... Rick Grimes with long blond hair in one scene, short brown the next. Ole Iron Man sporting a beard one scene, then clean shaven the next.

Okay. End of rant.

Well, Starscream has already had a toy of that body previously:

thats a really flawed argument. their faces dont change from scene to scene. they change (sometimes) from series to series.

and from time to time, rick goes from haircut and clean shaven to dirty hippy. ironman? come on. he wears a different suit every 12 minutes.

let the kids have their different grim and jazz.

Yeah, I think it's still valid because there are versions of same character IN THE SAME LINE with different faces. It's confusing to kids. It's a bad corporate decision — in my opinion.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I think it's still valid because there are versions of same character IN THE SAME LINE with different faces. It's confusing to kids. It's a bad corporate decision - in my opinion.

there are?
is it like, optimus variable faceplate in some fictions? or are they only depicted i one way in the RID show? if so i retract my previous statement.

Eh? Don't see the big deal with ss not having thoese stacks and kids getting it won't know they were supposed to be there (and likely won't care)

I would love to get a skywarp in that mold, in fact I would probably not bother with jetfire or starscream

My kids have no trouble identifying the major characters... My oldest son (5 years old) knows even some of the oddest Transformers that don't get a lot of loving.

What they do notice is colors, and once they understand the coloration differences they pick up on who is who... Explaining that in certain lines Megatron becomes Galvatron is rather confusing to a kid though...

We can expect these guys to continue to evolve and change... What most kids are clear on is Bumblebee is usually Yellow... Starscream a mixture of white, blue, and red.

Characteristically speaking when Starscream talks or his attitude shows its clearly Starscream...