#Botcon2016: Titans Return Updated Images: Fort Max Diorama, Sentinel, Windblade, Brainstorm

Man, that backpack on Mindwipe is gnarly, it's like it's not even trying to collapse to the back

Ran into two of the guys at the airport on my way home. I chatted them up for a minute, and they told me that when they pulled Astrotrain out, his wing had snapped off. So they had Fort Max pull the wings off that fly.

Gotta say, those guys have a great job.

I've heard of a bat outta hell, but this is just ridiculous

Was Windblade remolded or just redecoed?

Also, who is that green repaint of Groove?

RiddlerJ wrote:Was Windblade remolded or just redecoed?

Redeco of the RID Warrior class Windblade mold.

RiddlerJ wrote:Also, who is that green repaint of Groove?

Rust Dust, Victorion's Legends class component.

RiddlerJ wrote:Was Windblade remolded or just redecoed?

Also, who is that green repaint of Groove?

That is a repaint of the RiD Windblade. and the green Groove is Rust Dust, the chest piece to Victorion

Okay, now I'm curious. Is that supposed to be sentinels own fraction symbol on the sdcc exclusive or is there more we haven't been told.

ZeroWolf wrote:Okay, now I'm curious. Is that supposed to be sentinels own fraction symbol on the sdcc exclusive or is there more we haven't been told.

That's the symbol for the Autobot Security Services operating under Sentinel Prime. It's origin? Why, the IDW comics of course, Megatron Origins to be exact. It is missing the central chevron however:

Thanks jelZe it's been a while since I've read megatron origins. I just assumed he had the autobot symbol like everyone else.

Who's the orange car beside Mindwipe?

Is that a Voyager size Windblade?

Does anyone know how much the heads will cost?

Windsweeper wrote:Who's the orange car beside Mindwipe?

Is that a Voyager size Windblade?

The Orange car is wheelie and wind blade is just a deluxe, she's redeco'ed from her new RiD mold

Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Emerje wrote:Not resculpted, it pops out, whoever displayed him at BotCon forgot to pull it out. Here's the same figure from Toy Fair:

Well that's a relief! I was getting nervous when it was pointed out earlier, but I thought I had seen the fintenna up on the Hasbro version.
Thanks for the eagle eye, Emerje! Good lookin' out.

A great touch - shame it can't save hasbro's 'deco'

That's a key point. Through minor use of paint apps, Takara manages to make their figures not look like cheap crap. The exact opposite of Hasbro's apparent strategy.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Well, that's... interesting. I wonder why on earth they're doing that

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Well, that's... interesting. I wonder why on earth they're doing that

She was initially linked with Metroplex, right? In this take on the character she could be linked with Fort Max instead and thus would have different colours showing her new "colours".

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Well, that's... interesting. I wonder why on earth they're doing that

She was initially linked with Metroplex, right? In this take on the character she could be linked with Fort Max instead and thus would have different colours showing her new "colours".

True, but as of right now IDW Fort Max isn't a Titan, just a bigger than average guy.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Well, that's... interesting. I wonder why on earth they're doing that

She was initially linked with Metroplex, right? In this take on the character she could be linked with Fort Max instead and thus would have different colours showing her new "colours".

Since all the Platinum sets are supposed to be recreating prominent scenes - or in the case of Autobot Heroes, bundling together characters that were in a team together - I am starting to think this is a hint at an upcoming IDW Titans Return crossover. And so far this has all the makings of 'what the fuck', what with Sentinel back, Windblade linking up with Fort Max and then joining with Brainstorm from the Lost Light. I don't know how to feel about it. Just as long as Hasbro doesn't mess IDW's story up as bad as Combiner Wars...

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Didn't take long for them to use the new Windblade mold lol. I'm still confused just what on earth her colours are supposed to be, especially when Brainstorm and Sentinel are so accurate to their original colours (well, Sentinel is translucent but)
I'd be tempted to get that set just because of Sentinel's faction symbol but since he seems translucent I think I won't. Reprolabels'll always come around anyway :p
It's funny he has his own faction symbol now. I was just thinking the other week about how Sentinel Prime, at least this one, is being marketed as a heroic autobot leader to kids and they'll be getting him thinking "woah, an Optimus Prime that's orange and turns into a spaceship!" sort of deal. When we know the horrible, horrible things he's done. Oh IDW~

At the Hasbro panel, they said the deco for Windblade in the SDCC set is meant to be Fort Max colors.

Well, that's... interesting. I wonder why on earth they're doing that

She was initially linked with Metroplex, right? In this take on the character she could be linked with Fort Max instead and thus would have different colours showing her new "colours".

Since all the Platinum sets are supposed to be recreating prominent scenes - or in the case of Autobot Heroes, bundling together characters that were in a team together - I am starting to think this is a hint at an upcoming IDW Titans Return crossover. And so far this has all the makings of 'what the ****', what with Sentinel back, Windblade linking up with Fort Max and then joining with Brainstorm from the Lost Light. I don't know how to feel about it. Just as long as Hasbro doesn't mess IDW's story up as bad as Combiner Wars...

Except that this isn't a Platinum set, it's the SDCC exclusive set.

Well I just skimmed this thread to look at all the BotCon pics and have a nice little stroll down memory lane. I had kinda written off the TR line, but after seeing the figures in person I'm back on board the space hype choo choo! Woo Woo!

They had some really fun displays and the sculpting is amazing. There are lots of play options and this is going be a real fun line to pick up and tinker with. I'm even excited by the little single head packs, they'll be the cheap and easy minicon buys of this line.

Fun stuffs

Given Windblade is a city speaker, it makes sense for her to be Fort Max's new city speaker and take his colors as she took Caminus' facial paint. Cool idea

Shuttershock wrote:True, but as of right now IDW Fort Max isn't a Titan, just a bigger than average guy.

This set doesnt have anything to do with IDW. Fort Max is clearly a Titan in whatever fiction that Windblade belongs to. He's on the box, you can see the tip of his fingure holding the sword:



So yeah, she's just coordinated with the titan she is serving.

carytheone wrote:Well I just skimmed this thread to look at all the BotCon pics and have a nice little stroll down memory lane. I had kinda written off the TR line, but after seeing the figures in person I'm back on board the space hype choo choo! Woo Woo!

They had some really fun displays and the sculpting is amazing. There are lots of play options and this is going be a real fun line to pick up and tinker with. I'm even excited by the little single head packs, they'll be the cheap and easy minicon buys of this line.

Fun stuffs

Well then we can have some hands on perspective on this stuff. From what you saw, can you let us know which figures excite you the most? Is Apeface also a must have for you?

william-james88 wrote:Well then we can have some hands on perspective on this stuff. From what you saw, can you let us know which figures excite you the most? Is Apeface also a must have for you?

Well let me get the "duh of course I'm getting them guys" out of the way.

Chromedome y Rewind - well obvs for my Lost Light shelf and the hopeless romantic in me

Wheelie is another buy on site

Fort Max is really starting to call my name

Galvatron is probably the biggest surprise for me, the sculpting is just awesome and I don't own a Galvy yet

While the deluxes look cool, not many of them really call my name, maybe Blurr, Hardhead and what ever the new twin heli one is called (I like my Gen Brainstorm and as you may know I'm not really a fan of beastformers)

The triple changing voyagers are looking nice, but unlike CW I'm only getting one of each mold - so really just Astrotrain and see above about A3

I may get one of the boomboxes, but I haven't made up my mind yet - I would like at least one playset

And I'll probably get a butt load of the small individual Titan Masters - just for fun - and what's the deal with Apeface, why all the hype?

It's really the design aesthetic and sculpting that impressed me the most. They are all so Cybertronian and lovely looking. Tak's got my attention with all their awesome paint apps for the deluxes.

If you need me later this year I will be apologizing to my wallet.

carytheone wrote:what's the deal with Apeface, why all the hype?

The hype comes from the semi fakeout we got (and technically are still getting). He was introduced as just a head before. And that was all we saw on the first day since we just see a hed on the box. And that blows right? Whats awesome about that guy is that he turns into a robot gorilla and a space ship And we were getting just his head.

BUT as it turns out they are going all out with that titan master. The vehicle he comes with is a ship that does turn into a gorilla. And its all super cute one at that. So sure, this isnt the G1 apeface, but its a new cute version that respects his namesake within the confines of what they could do with that size class.

Pretty much what I mean is you have Nightbeat who comes with a drill tank that turns into what looks like a jet. And thats kind of lame if this is all we get for Nightbeat.

But now we have Apeface who comes with a plane that turns into a gorilla. Now thats taking advantage of the apeface name if this is all we get.

Its pretty much the same hype fans were giving to Legion RID Clampdown but this is a toy that offers far more and done even better.

Ah Will, so I see. Speaking of Titan Master shenanigans. Have you seen that some alt modes support multiple TMs?

Like Hardhead for example. One TM drives and the other rides shotgun, quite literally.

carytheone wrote:Ah Will, so I see. Speaking of Titan Master shenanigans. Have you seen that some alt modes support multiple TMs?

Like Hardhead for example. One TM drives and the other rides shotgun, quite literally.

Same with Alpha Trion in spaceship mode. By attaching the weapon, you can have one riding indie and have another in the clear yellow cockpit. Does Hardhead need to attach the weapon to have multiple TMs?

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:Ah Will, so I see. Speaking of Titan Master shenanigans. Have you seen that some alt modes support multiple TMs?

Like Hardhead for example. One TM drives and the other rides shotgun, quite literally.

Same with Alpha Trion in spaceship mode. By attaching the weapon, you can have one riding indie and have another in the clear yellow cockpit. Does Hardhead need to attach the weapon to have multiple TMs?

The weapons is always ready for a hop-on in either mode so technically yes, but why wouldn't he have his weapon.


Hi ya buddy!

Okay, that is wonderful. Just imagining two titan masters riding in his tank mode shooting at things reminds me of this.

Kurona wrote:Okay, that is wonderful. Just imagining two titan masters riding in his tank mode shooting at things reminds me of this.

I think fun is one of the things they are pushing silently the hardest. That middle display with Fort Max had so many fun little easter eggs. TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

carytheone wrote:

Kurona wrote:Okay, that is wonderful. Just imagining two titan masters riding in his tank mode shooting at things reminds me of this.

I think fun is one of the things they are pushing silently the hardest. That middle display with Fort Max had so many fun little easter eggs. TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

And fun is definetely how I feel about the toyline - I mean sure getting a good Blurr and Chromedome to display is great, but Skullcruncher and Weirdwolf just look so fun in beast mode and I'm loving the titan masters expanding on the headmasters. Play Pattern is 10/10 and they've even got some combiners in Victorion, G2 Bruticus and Computron to expand even more

carytheone wrote: TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

But wsnt that what Hasbro was pushing for with Combiner Wars as well?

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote: TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

But wsnt that what Hasbro was pushing for with Combiner Wars as well?

It arguably is, but TR looks like it does it so much better with so many different ways of doing things. Combiners admittedly are a bit limited due to sacrifices that have to be made so Scramble City is the silver lining of playability. They're best as a supplement to a different main play pattern rather than the entire line imo; Titan Masters are much more malleable

Courtesy of Entertainment Earth, we have the actual breakdown of the cases for wave 1 of the upcoming Transformers Titans Return Legends class toys - Wheelie, Stripes and Rewind - which we have seen both in official photography from Toy Fair and during BotCon this past weekend. Check out the info below, along with

Transformers Generations Titans Return Legends Wave 1
Scheduled for June 2016

• These robots transform into cars, cats, tablets, and more!
  
• Each mini-vehicle can interact with Titan Masters mini-figres (sold separately)!
  
• Autobots come ready to fight the Decepticons - or try to maintain the peace on Cybertron.

Get ready to build something big with Transformers Generations Titans Return Legends! Each individually packaged figure has at least two modes, going from vehicle to 4-inch heroic Autobot or evil Decepticon.

Some of these Legends figures have a bonus mode, interacting with the mighty Titan Masters! Each package includes figure, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Case of 8 individually packaged figures includes (subject to change):

• 2x TRA GEN LEGENDS AUTOBOT STRIPES 630509385683
  
• 3x TRA GEN LEGENDS AUTOBOT REWIND 630509385669
  
• 3x TRA GEN LEGENDS AUTOBOT WHEELIE 630509414475

So Stripes, the one guy people don't care much about, is being packed the least.
Yay!

For once it seems like Hasbro is well aware of what will sell better. More Rewind and Wheelie than Stripes!

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote: TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

But wsnt that what Hasbro was pushing for with Combiner Wars as well?

Isn't that what all toys should push?

I don't know, this line seems inherently more fun. Maybe it's all the little vehicles and play sets. Things that aren't just transformers or action figures to stand on a shelf and look cool. TR seems like something that will be spread across the living room floor, made into bases and have battles for hours.

CW seemed more like a thing to collect with the fun coming in the mixing and matching. TR just seems more toy like to me. Maybe that's why I wasn't that in to TR at first. I thought I wanted cool things on a shelf to tinker with from time to time. Maybe my perspective is changing?

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote: TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

But wsnt that what Hasbro was pushing for with Combiner Wars as well?

Isn't that what all toys should push?

I don't know, this line seems inherently more fun. Maybe it's all the little vehicles and play sets. Things that aren't just transformers or action figures to stand on a shelf and look cool. TR seems like something that will be spread across the living room floor, made into bases and have battles for hours.

CW seemed more like a thing to collect with the fun coming in the mixing and matching. TR just seems more toy like to me. Maybe that's why I wasn't that in to TR at first. I thought I wanted cool things on a shelf to tinker with from time to time. Maybe my perspective is changing?

I forget Cary, were you into the MP Line? I dont remember that being your thing. Because if cool stuff on a shelf to tinker from time to time was your thing then I would have strongly encouraged MP. Thats the king of all that. And yes I do find it fun that we have something at the tail end of that spectrum available too

Yay, TR soon! Now if I can just find Sky Lynx and Wreck gar before everything switches.

william-james88 wrote:I forget Cary, were you into the MP Line? I dont remember that being your thing. Because if cool stuff on a shelf to tinker from time to time was your thing then I would have strongly encouraged MP. Thats the king of all that. And yes I do find it fun that we have something at the tail end of that spectrum available too

Yes, I do like the MP line, it's one of my focuses this year. The other being some of the nicer classics/universe stuff that I missed and botcon helped me fill in some nice gaps (you were right about the classic seekers btw, they are great).

I find there is room for all the different types of figures. From 1-step to MP; there's a market at every stop along the way. I'll be getting a few cherry picked figures from the TR line just to experience what the Titan Masters is all about. Probably the ones that I need to fill in the gaps. I will not be going whole hog like I did with the CW line though.


Yay on the legends case pack. No interest in Stripes the table cat, but Rewind and Wheelie are high on my list of BoS and the price point for legends scale makes an easy retail pick-up while hunting.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote: TR is going be a fun line to play with as well as to collect.

But wsnt that what Hasbro was pushing for with Combiner Wars as well?

Isn't that what all toys should push?

I don't know, this line seems inherently more fun. Maybe it's all the little vehicles and play sets. Things that aren't just transformers or action figures to stand on a shelf and look cool. TR seems like something that will be spread across the living room floor, made into bases and have battles for hours.

CW seemed more like a thing to collect with the fun coming in the mixing and matching. TR just seems more toy like to me. Maybe that's why I wasn't that in to TR at first. I thought I wanted cool things on a shelf to tinker with from time to time. Maybe my perspective is changing?

I forget Cary, were you into the MP Line? I dont remember that being your thing. Because if cool stuff on a shelf to tinker from time to time was your thing then I would have strongly encouraged MP. Thats the king of all that. And yes I do find it fun that we have something at the tail end of that spectrum available too

Change is what transformers do best Cary!

My perspective is shifting all the time lately. Can't make up my mind about what figures I want. I am excited about this line, as I know I won't lose the little figures that create the heads/weapons this time around (RIP my original G1 Gort and Recoil )

And yeah Will, MP all day. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, TR with swappable heads and such? FUN! I really wish they brought back the tech spec indicator on the HeadTitanMasters..

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So Stripes, the one guy people don't care much about, is being packed the least.
Yay!

:lol: For once it seems like Hasbro is well aware of what will sell better. More Rewind and Wheelie than Stripes!

You know those pegs are still gonna be LINED with Stripes

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So Stripes, the one guy people don't care much about, is being packed the least.
Yay!

:lol: For once it seems like Hasbro is well aware of what will sell better. More Rewind and Wheelie than Stripes!

You know those pegs are still gonna be LINED with Stripes

To be followed by a ravage of black plastic.

carytheone wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So Stripes, the one guy people don't care much about, is being packed the least.
Yay!

For once it seems like Hasbro is well aware of what will sell better. More Rewind and Wheelie than Stripes!

You know those pegs are still gonna be LINED with Stripes

To be followed by a ravage of black plastic.

Somehow I keep forgetting about Wheelie, I can't wait to get that guy!!

I can't remember if I've already said this in this thread or not, but I went to BotCon and saw the Titans Return figures in person. They look absolutely amazing in person! The molded detail makes up for all the hollowness, though hollow parts have never bothered me that much. Blurr's plastic color kinda looked a little bit lighter than in photos to me. The Titan Masters are so tiny! I wish I had brought my Headrobots Stronghold to try and estimate the height of the Titanmasters, but I can tell from a glance they are smaller than Stronghold and maybe even smaller than Micromasters and Mini-cons. Blaster and Soundwave look incredible in person! I'm definitely getting both of them. Alpha Trion looked great, PMOP looked really cool in person, Galvatron looked even more bad*ss than he already did, the deluxe all looked really good, Fortress Maximus has me very excited, and the stand-alone Titanmaster heads are wonderful and their cheap price means I can buy a ton of them.

itscramtastic wrote:Somehow I keep forgetting about Wheelie, I can't wait to get that guy!!

He looks cool and has clear wheels ala RID Drift. Hmmm... He could be RID Drift's lil bro

Bonus: not sure if it was newsed or not but a TM can drive Wheelie.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:I can't remember if I've already said this in this thread or not, but I went to BotCon and saw the Titans Return figures in person. They look absolutely amazing in person! The molded detail makes up for all the hollowness, though hollow parts have never bothered me that much. Blurr's plastic color kinda looked a little bit lighter than in photos to me. The Titan Masters are so tiny! I wish I had brought my Headrobots Stronghold to try and estimate the height of the Titanmasters, but I can tell from a glance they are smaller than Stronghold and maybe even smaller than Micromasters and Mini-cons. Blaster and Soundwave look incredible in person! I'm definitely getting both of them. Alpha Trion looked great, PMOP looked really cool in person, Galvatron looked even more bad*ss than he already did, the deluxe all looked really good, Fortress Maximus has me very excited, and the stand-alone Titanmaster heads are wonderful and their cheap price means I can buy a ton of them.

Awesome to all of the above!

carytheone wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Somehow I keep forgetting about Wheelie, I can't wait to get that guy!!

He looks cool and has clear wheels ala RID Drift. Hmmm... He could be RID Drift's lil bro

Bonus: not sure if it was newsed or not but a TM can drive Wheelie.

RiD Drift has clear wheels?! Never noticed!

I figured that he worked with the other TM figures, but that is awesome!