Black lives matter. 'Til all are one!

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Seibertron wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

It's a Transformers site. But it's my site. This is happening today here on Seibertron.com. This is MY form of protesting. There are a lot of other Transformers fansites out there if you want to hide under a rock and pretend that all of this isn't happening. Today, here on Seibertron.com, we are going to acknowledge the unfair treatment black people are continuing to suffer and hopefully some of you can come up with some things we each can do to help make the world a better place for people of all colors.

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Ummmm...
You're going to pull this Mod $#!% on Ryan (Seibertron)?
You got some set of bearings, kid!

Ban me, idc. If me actually looking into things beyond a news headline, and actually caring about all the people suffering right now gets me kicked off, Idc.

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Ummmm...
You're going to pull this Mod $#!% on Ryan (Seibertron)?
You got some set of bearings, kid!

Ban me, idc. If me actually looking into things beyond a news headline, and actually caring about all the people suffering right now gets me kicked off, Idc.

That rage you feel... that is part of this too.
We know ALL LIVES MATTER.
But what they are saying is
SOME LIVES MATTER MORE &
BLACK LIVES MATTER, AS MUCH AS OTHERS.

Just calm down.
No one is forcing you to read any of this.
People just want to get involved and in touch with their community.
Even this community.
It's a safe place for us.
But to ignore this is folly.

I just feel this is unwarranted. What happened was almost certainly not a race issue, so why the hell are people doing this **** now? Every creator I enjoy is doing this bullshit "anti racism charity" stuff when that makes 0 SENSE because HOW can sending money to some organization cause people to stop hating other people. Yes, racism is a real issue, and yes police should be more carefully selected. I feel like "restructuring the police force to prevent this from happening again" should be the cause to go for, not "**** the police". This situation is too **** complicated for a simple Transformers forum. You're not doing ANY "part", this is a pointless and frustrating endeavor.

Black Hat wrote:Whilst I agree with the sentiment behind the post, and the circumstances surrounding the beginnings of this situation are awful, I cannot in good conscience support BLM itself. Not with their failure to properly condemn the looting, arson and general violence performed by rioters using the protests as an excuse to act like barbarians, not to mention their close ties with Soviet-founded terrorist group Antifa (recently exposed by Project Veritas). And that's before we start on the higher-up bad actors supporting the riots (see: magically appearing bricks) and bailing out rioters. The original cause is just, but what these protests have devolved into is utterly abominable and I cannot, and will not, support them.

I've always been hugely opposed to overreach of the law- I am wholeheartedly in support of the pro-democracy campaigners in Hong Kong being oppressed by the CCP for example- but there are a lot of lies and misinformation being peddled at the moment about this mess (from both sides), and it pays to be vigilant to avoid being deceived. There is a difference between the genuine peaceful protestors and the huge amount of violent thugs who just want a reason to cause mayhem.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. 'Till all are one.

Black Hat wrote:Whilst I agree with the sentiment behind the post, and the circumstances surrounding the beginnings of this situation are awful, I cannot in good conscience support BLM itself. Not with their failure to properly condemn the looting, arson and general violence performed by rioters using the protests as an excuse to act like barbarians, not to mention their close ties with Soviet-founded terrorist group Antifa (recently exposed by Project Veritas). And that's before we start on the higher-up bad actors supporting the riots (see: magically appearing bricks) and bailing out rioters. The original cause is just, but what these protests have devolved into is utterly abominable and I cannot, and will not, support them.

I've always been hugely opposed to overreach of the law- I am wholeheartedly in support of the pro-democracy campaigners in Hong Kong being oppressed by the CCP for example- but there are a lot of lies and misinformation being peddled at the moment about this mess (from both sides), and it pays to be vigilant to avoid being deceived. There is a difference between the genuine peaceful protestors and the huge amount of violent thugs who just want a reason to cause mayhem.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. 'Till all are one.

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

So... Using violence is ok, if you use it against folks that you see (not a fact) as a terrorist group? You just kinda chasticed the rioters for using violence, and right after that remarked that you would also use violence against left wing people. Or is your responce like... A nice chat with these people... You know, finding some common ground etc.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

So... Using violence is ok, if you use it against folks that you see (not a fact) as a terrorist group? You just kinda chasticed the rioters for using violence, and right after that remarked that you would also use violence against left wing people. Or is your responce like... A nice chat with these people... You know, finding some common ground etc.

There is a difference between attacking and terrorizing people in public and defending myself against those attacks.

ZeroWolf wrote:I stand with those who stand against prejudice. Reading about all those lives that got snuffed out so carelessly, it makes me angry to think that it's 2020 and this is the world we have.

Your words stand strong.

Till All Are One
#BlackLivesMatter

Black Hat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

So... Using violence is ok, if you use it against folks that you see (not a fact) as a terrorist group? You just kinda chasticed the rioters for using violence, and right after that remarked that you would also use violence against left wing people. Or is your responce like... A nice chat with these people... You know, finding some common ground etc.

There is a difference between attacking and terrorizing people in public and defending myself against those attacks.

Precisely this. Antifa are quite open and upfront about their desire to attack "fascists" (read: anyone they disagree with/think they can get away with attacking). They aren't giving out pamphlets about ending racism or whatever, they're attacking people. They're absolutely terrorists (remember the bikelock incident?) and they deserve no sympathy.

-Kanrabat- wrote:No. Please don't.
Black Lives Matter is a freaking CULT that wallow itself into perpetual victim status.

WHITE PEOPLE GET KILLED BY POLICE ALL THE TIME AND MEDIA JUST DONT CARE.

Stop it with the white guilt. Stop it with separating everyone in little boxes based on their race. Let black people, white people, ALL people take responsibility for their own action and STOP blaming other groups for your own failures.

STOP SPITTING ON MARTIN LUTHER KING JR'S DREAM FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Dorkimus wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

So... Using violence is ok, if you use it against folks that you see (not a fact) as a terrorist group? You just kinda chasticed the rioters for using violence, and right after that remarked that you would also use violence against left wing people. Or is your responce like... A nice chat with these people... You know, finding some common ground etc.

There is a difference between attacking and terrorizing people in public and defending myself against those attacks.

Precisely this. Antifa are quite open and upfront about their desire to attack "fascists" (read: anyone they disagree with/think they can get away with attacking). They aren't giving out pamphlets about ending racism or whatever, they're attacking people. They're absolutely terrorists (remember the bikelock incident?) and they deserve no sympathy.

Well, some of you are equally eager to attack other People that you label as terrorist. Don't believe every thing fix news tells you. Besides, blaming Antifa or freaking China or whatnot is just a diversion. It is a refusal of seeing the real problems here and making this just some political "left vs right thing" where the Evil leftists are making trouple over nothing. That way it is a very nifty to demonize the whole BLM movement. And if you think I'm wrong, then read some of those comments above.

Dorkimus wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.

So... Using violence is ok, if you use it against folks that you see (not a fact) as a terrorist group? You just kinda chasticed the rioters for using violence, and right after that remarked that you would also use violence against left wing people. Or is your responce like... A nice chat with these people... You know, finding some common ground etc.

There is a difference between attacking and terrorizing people in public and defending myself against those attacks.

Precisely this. Antifa are quite open and upfront about their desire to attack "fascists" (read: anyone they disagree with/think they can get away with attacking). They aren't giving out pamphlets about ending racism or whatever, they're attacking people. They're absolutely terrorists (remember the bikelock incident?) and they deserve no sympathy.

Well, some of you are equally eager to attack other People that you label as terrorist. Don't believe every thing fix news tells you. Besides, blaming Antifa or freaking China or whatnot is just a diversion. It is a refusal of seeing the real problems here and making this just some political "left vs right thing" where the Evil leftists are making trouple over nothing. That way it is a very nifty to demonize the whole BLM movement. And if you think I'm wrong, then read some of those comments above.

Dorkimus wrote:Statistics. You should study those before posting.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Of course I think black lives matter. I have black friends and black coworkers who are very good people and I don't want to see anything happen to them by overzealous cops or racist a**holes who would target them because of their color. But the organized Black Lives Matter movement is not pure and not honest. They're opportunistic and choose to elevate certain people or events. Would we be in this situation if 1) Floyd was killed by a black cop or 2) the murder was not filmed? Same with Arbery. If he got killed by 2 other black guys, it would have resembled an average afternoon in Chicago or LA or any other big city with a large colored population. And nothing would have been said. Where is BLM for the black victims of black attackers?

As for Antifa, I don't have to listen to news. I can just watch videos online either they themselves or bystanders record when these coward scumbags mob up and descend on people with verbal intimidation or physical assault. They can never confront anyone 1 on 1, and they always wear masks and sunglasses, keeping themselves covered, because they know what they're doing is a crime and they don't have a backbone to stand up for their beliefs and own their actions. They're gutless.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

As for Antifa, I don't have to listen to news. I can just watch videos online either they themselves or bystanders record when these coward scumbags mob up and descend on people with verbal intimidation or physical assault. They can never confront anyone 1 on 1, and they always wear masks and sunglasses, keeping themselves covered, because they know what they're doing is a crime and they don't have a backbone to stand up for their beliefs and own their actions. They're gutless.

As for Antifa, I hate to say this but there's a pill to cure someone from the Antifa disease... a LEAD pill.
It's cruel to say this but we are going there and WHEN (not if) it will happen, it will not be pretty"

-Kanrabat- wrote:One thing the "establishment" don't want to admit is the current trouble is a CLASS struggle. It have nothing to do with race. Because all that "discrimination" black people from impoverished area suffer from, poor dirty white people suffer from too. But they are not allowed to complain.

Media LOVE to keep us divided. We are easier to conquer.

Also, good new folks, CORONA VIRUS NO LONGER EXIST! We can all protest freely (as long that it's against "racism") we can do SJW praying in tight groups, we can loot all we want, we can beat people up, we can even KILL people as long that it's for the "right" cause. We can do all this with the blessings of our dear government and the mainstream media.

But those who want to go to church or simply reopen their small businesses (no matter their color) are MONSTERS.

Dorkimus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

As for Antifa, I don't have to listen to news. I can just watch videos online either they themselves or bystanders record when these coward scumbags mob up and descend on people with verbal intimidation or physical assault. They can never confront anyone 1 on 1, and they always wear masks and sunglasses, keeping themselves covered, because they know what they're doing is a crime and they don't have a backbone to stand up for their beliefs and own their actions. They're gutless.

Yes, but have you considered that the mobilization and violent outbursts coming from the left might also have some thing to do with the fact that people answer with violence to violence and fear. What I mean is, that nowadays you also see these alt right wing "militia" protesters wearing sunglasses, mask and actual assault rifles to make their point. Like for example in Michigan state capitol not so long ago. They most certainly were not Antifa. And at least to me that is rather scary. Same goes for many of those pro-firearm protesters who bring military grade weapons with them. They look like some (mostly) White militia, ready to "take action". You know, these tacticool People. Also, what are atm those troops in Washington dc, who have no insignia of anykind. Some of them wearing sun glasses and masks. Some say they are, of Doc, sort, nsa, cia or perhaps blackwater (or whatever they are called nowadays). But apparentlybthey have right to practise violence towards possible protesters. So, is it any Wonder if also the left wing is arming up and getting riled up. It is no fun to live in fear, when other party sees their god given right to wave arms in protests etc. Many things have led to this point when it boils over.

gothsaurus wrote:If you are arguing with this post, you are arguing with Optimus Prime himself - and everything he stood for.

firefox91 wrote:To those that respond to "Black Lives Matter" with "All Lives Matter", you're missing the message.