Artwork Revealed for Optimal Optimus from Transformers Power of the Primes

ZeroWolf wrote:

bodrock wrote:Yes, exactly what Sabrblade said!

Do you live in Germany, LP? I'm always curious about availability of new and vintage figures in other countries. I'm fortunate to not only have all those B&Ms, but also several vintage toy stores in the area.

I have to go online for most of the Beast Wars Neo figures, though. I should have a demon lord arriving today who will need proper pics for his face-off against the Primes.

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very nice shin megami tensei reference (true demon ending was a pain to achieve but worth it)

I would love to see Hasbro remake magmatron, just to see what they can do with 2018 engineering.

Yeah it was, ZeroWolf! SMT3 is still an all-time fave.

Good call on a Perfect Effect Magmatron, LP -- their Lio Convoy was pretty cool. But if HasTak can do cool AND affordable, it'd be a whole lot cooler.

I can't wait to get PotP PRIMAL!

Does it bother anyone else that they seem to be primarily identifying this guy by his evolving form of Primal, as opposed to the other leader class figures primarily identified by their evolved forms?

Sodan-1 wrote:Does it bother anyone else that they seem to be primarily identifying this guy by his evolving form of Primal, as opposed to the other leader class figures primarily identified by their evolved forms?

Not really. The "Optimal Optimus" name was only his formal name on the original toy, while in the show it was just a joke that Megatron made once or twice while the guy was still referred to as "Optimus Primal" even in that form.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Does it bother anyone else that they seem to be primarily identifying this guy by his evolving form of Primal, as opposed to the other leader class figures primarily identified by their evolved forms?

Not really. The "Optimal Optimus" name was only his formal name on the original toy, while in the show it was just a joke that Megatron made once or twice while the guy was still referred to as "Optimus Primal" even in that form.

Makes you wonder if the "Optimus Primal" name will be applied to the Combined "Prime" form, or the smaller one. Also, what would the other be called (please not "Optimus Minor"!).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, quick question for the people who own Starscream: is there a sculpted number on the inside of his Enigma and if yes, what is that number? Grimlock's has what I think is the number "1" inside his.

Also a 1.

Ok, how about the Matrix Cores of Optimus and Rodimus?

Don't have Prime, but Rod's Matrix core is molded diferently than the enigmas. It os hollow, but has structural cross braces to extend the peg farther out. There is no stamped number inside.

What theory are you conjuring Jelz?

Ah, overthinking things again. I was theorizing that the number refers to the mold used for the Matrix Core/Enigma, since they, along with the Prime Armor, seem to be cast independently from the figure itself. Like Grimlock is Type "1", Starscream is Type "2", that sorta thing. That's not the case, obviously, but you never know.

Thanks for pitching in so quickly.

I know we moved past this, but I would guess that is a cavity number. In plastic molding, when any identical parts are gang molded, the cavities are numbered, with a molded number ending up on the part. (We used to use this to determine which mold was degrading or otherwise going out of spec...)

So, this has me speculating that there may be other Enigmas coming that may be numbered differently as they close and open different cavities for different toys. It will be interesting to see if Elita 1, Starscream's mold mate, has a different number on her Enigma...

Lunatic Prime wrote:

bodrock wrote:Thanks Will -- you close to picking up a Heinraddo of your own?

I saw Rodimus Unicronus on eBay the other day from Kansas. I think it sold for $80+, but it was almost like seeing a unicrorn in the wild....

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Those people who can't just wait

I agree with you unless it was a reviewer that bought it as they like to review them before it hits shelves and that makes sense since a lot wait to see a review b4 buying toys.

AlexisSkrull wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

bodrock wrote:Thanks Will -- you close to picking up a Heinraddo of your own?

I saw Rodimus Unicronus on eBay the other day from Kansas. I think it sold for $80+, but it was almost like seeing a unicrorn in the wild....

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Those people who can't just wait

I agree with you unless it was a reviewer that bought it as they like to review them before it hits shelves and that makes sense since a lot wait to see a review b4 buying toys.

That was my first thought right after I clicked Submit

bodrock wrote:I can't wait to get PotP PRIMAL!

Same here

Could we start a discussion about the small guys alt mode (and weaponry)?

Because his artwork show's him with original Optimus Primal's sabers but the toy just gets the gun barrels of Optimal Optimus mode as bats.


And his alt mode is just the space carrier on Optimal Optimus'es back. Or maybe it's the research vessel he was a captain of? But that wouldn't make sense as far as he would have been the captain of his own alt mode
But it's kinda nice because it could be his pre- BEAST WARS alt mode.


Or did we already have that and I missed it because I got in here late

I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out. I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black and grey colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

Munkky wrote:I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out.

I got that one 2 to 3 years ago. It looks cool in robot and beast mode but that's it.

Munkky wrote:I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black, grey and red colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

I guess the cockpit section will be bright orange because otherwise it wouldn't be accurate to the original one and look pretty off. And the rest of him will be black with a bit white and red like in the artwork.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Munkky wrote:I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out.

I got that one 2 to 3 years ago. It looks cool in robot and beast mode but that's it.

Munkky wrote:I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black, grey and red colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

I guess the cockpit section will be bright orange because otherwise it wouldn't be accurate to the original one and look pretty off. And the rest of him will be black with a bit white and red like in the artwork.

The neat thing is that the "Trailer" is more akin to a Pretender Shell, meaning the smaller robot except for the cockpit is hidden away.

I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Munkky wrote:I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out.

I got that one 2 to 3 years ago. It looks cool in robot and beast mode but that's it.

Munkky wrote:I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black, grey and red colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

I guess the cockpit section will be bright orange because otherwise it wouldn't be accurate to the original one and look pretty off. And the rest of him will be black with a bit white and red like in the artwork.

The neat thing is that the "Trailer" is more akin to a Pretender Shell, meaning the smaller robot except for the cockpit is hidden away.

Uhhhhm...nope
Look at the third picture on the upper left side:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

A very rainbow gorilla. Looks like something out of the 90's.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.
But I prefer the contruction site like color scheme of Optimal Optimus over Burning Convoy and Primal Prime. I also didn't like the Year of the Ape recolor of Supreme class Beast Machines Optimus Primal. I'm glad that I got the original one lately

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.

Uh, sorry...HasCon

Lunatic Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Munkky wrote:I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out.

I got that one 2 to 3 years ago. It looks cool in robot and beast mode but that's it.

Munkky wrote:I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black, grey and red colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

I guess the cockpit section will be bright orange because otherwise it wouldn't be accurate to the original one and look pretty off. And the rest of him will be black with a bit white and red like in the artwork.

The neat thing is that the "Trailer" is more akin to a Pretender Shell, meaning the smaller robot except for the cockpit is hidden away.

Uhhhhm...nope
Look at the third picture on the upper left side:

O, who cares about backsides?

Lunatic Prime wrote:But what are the opinions on his weapons and alt mode now?

I don't really care since he's going to be combined with the munky armor all the time. The 10th anniversary deluxe is going to be my pre-evolved form on the shelf.

I voted for Boss Monkey as I wanted a new figure of the Beast Wars character from the original first season. Having a Beast Wars figure that doesn't turn into the actual beast mode seems a bit... meh... to me.

But that's just my 2 cents. I'll wait for for tangible images.

I have so many different Primal figures that turn into gorillas (all of the Hasbro BW releases plus a tiny transforming Takara TM version, Deluxe and Mega BM versions, the anniversary Ultra remold and new deluxe mold, regular Robot Master, Year of the Monkey, and both MPs) so I'm fine with just one Primal that turns into something else.

I'm fine with the weapons being clubs instead of swords, it still feels like it suits him. The Transmetal version had clubs, too, after all.



Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.

i would say a primal prime repaint is very likely at some point maybe have the smaller optimus primal figure repainted as the first transmetal optimus primal

WreckerJack wrote:A very rainbow gorilla. Looks like something out of the 90's.

Pretty sure that's entirely the intent, buddy.

The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I also got Optimal within the last year, and he's been lot of fun. But I agree his munky and bot modes are the only forms that work well.

I was honestly hoping to get a good, original Optimus Primal representation with the PotP figure -- he has the bot mode down. I'm curious about his alt mode....I want to see the final product. But regardless, I'm absolutely buying him. >_<

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

Emerje wrote:I have so many different Primal figures that turn into gorillas (all of the Hasbro BW releases plus a tiny transforming Takara TM version, Deluxe and Mega BM versions, the anniversary Ultra remold and new deluxe mold, regular Robot Master, Year of the Monkey, and both MPs) so I'm fine with just one Primal that turns into something else.

I'm fine with the weapons being clubs instead of swords, it still feels like it suits him. The Transmetal version had clubs, too, after all.



Emerje

Same here.
I always regret to not have been able to get botcon 2006 set, in order to have pre-earth Primal, so the Potp version wil take this role, it's in fact a good news for me.

Power of the Primes are starting to appear in Ireland. I bought MetalHawk and Cloudburst in Ken Black in Wexford for €7 each. They also had Skullgrin along with the Leader Class Optimus and Rodimus for €53.




Sadly my local SMYTHS in Waterford had nothing new, though it is a good sign that they are starting to appear.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

Wasn't that 's plan anyway?

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

He says teased bit it's a shadow on one of the early pages, it's more of an easter egg then a tease as he didn't speak and wasn't seen again. Of course having checked the wiki it states they've been seen multiple times but having speaking roles is what's important, and he's had zip.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

Wasn't that 's plan anyway?

That's what we're all betting on -- but until they say 'YESSSSS', I'm going to try and remain patient.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:O, who cares about backsides?

Sir Mix-a-Lot certainly does!

As for the toy bio, it certainly does seem to be a generic retelling of the original Beast Wars story for Optimus Primal. I don't think we're going to get anything more about him ascending to the position of "Prime" of all Cybertronians, though. The first two parts of the Prime Wars Trilogy had almost zero plot. Everything revolved around the gimmick in terms of story telling on the packages. It was rather rudimentary with Combiner Wars having fleeting references to gestalt modes, where applicable. Titans Return made it all about the various powers that Titan Masters granted the Transformers they combined with. With Power of the Primes, it's now about the combination of an individual's personality with a specific Prime's powers, and even then, we only really get that explained in randomly packed trading cards. The bios on the boxes are little more than "How will (insert name here) use the Power of the Primes?" Alas, Hasbro's invitation to "Choose the Next Prime" was likely more a publicity stunt than any true urge to add to the Transformers narrative. We voted on the toy we wanted most...and that's pretty much it. Hasbro expects us (collector and kid alike) to fill in the blanks ourselves with imagination.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:O, who cares about backsides?

Sir Mix-a-Lot certainly does!

As for the toy bio, it certainly does seem to be a generic retelling of the original Beast Wars story for Optimus Primal. I don't think we're going to get anything more about him ascending to the position of "Prime" of all Cybertronians, though. The first two parts of the Prime Wars Trilogy had almost zero plot. Everything revolved around the gimmick in terms of story telling on the packages. It was rather rudimentary with Combiner Wars having fleeting references to gestalt modes, where applicable. Titans Return made it all about the various powers that Titan Masters granted the Transformers they combined with. With Power of the Primes, it's now about the combination of an individual's personality with a specific Prime's powers, and even then, we only really get that explained in randomly packed trading cards. The bios on the boxes are little more than "How will (insert name here) use the Power of the Primes?" Alas, Hasbro's invitation to "Choose the Next Prime" was likely more a publicity stunt than any true urge to add to the Transformers narrative. We voted on the toy we wanted most...and that's pretty much it. Hasbro expects us (collector and kid alike) to fill in the blanks ourselves with imagination.

Actually I think Hasbro are relying on IDW and/or Machima to tell the story but the stories will probably end up looking nothing alike.

And that's even if IDW will do anything with these Pretenders and Prime Masters. They're doing stuff with the Thirteen, yes, but not really anything with the POTP toy characters.

As for Machinima, well, expect the bare minimum of anything in the toyline from them, really, as they gave us Combiners who didn't show off the execution of their combination gimmick, and a single Titan Master who never used his head gimmick in conjunction with his assigned Titan.

Uhm... I don't see London, I don't see France...

Sabrblade wrote:And that's even if IDW will do anything with these Pretenders and Prime Masters. They're doing stuff with the Thirteen, yes, but not really anything with the POTP toy characters.

I guess it will end up like Titans Return's Sentinel Prime and Sovereign. As far as my memory goes they could have just let that part out and nothing would have changed or would be missing for the ongoing story. Or did I forget something essential?
And I dont't count the Titans as representing the gimmick of the TR line

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Uhm... I don't see London, I don't see France...

He's missing his crotch
How did somebody manage to mess that up?

Normally we get the alternative head spoiled in instructions but this is new to me, that's quite a blunder.

@Lunatic Prime so yeah don't expect optimal Optimus with IDW or Machima
(Though I wouldn't another beast wars mini series but given the framework currently it won't be a spin off from the main series)

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And that's even if IDW will do anything with these Pretenders and Prime Masters. They're doing stuff with the Thirteen, yes, but not really anything with the POTP toy characters.

I guess it will end up like Titans Return's Sentinel Prime and Sovereign. As far as my memory goes they could have just let that part out and nothing would have changed or would be missing for the ongoing story. Or did I forget something essential?
And I dont't count the Titans as representing the gimmick of the TR line

So yeah don't expect optimal Optimus with IDW or Machima
(Though I wouldn't another beast wars mini series but given the framework currently it won't be a spin off from the main series)

That's not exactly what I wanted to express. I guess we will get Optimal Optimus in Machnima's Power of the Primes because he's the Windblade, Victorion and Trypticon of PotP (and just now I notice that they actually put in every fan-voted figure/character).
And I could see Optimus Primal being the right hand of Onyx Prime in the IDW comics. We already got Eukarians (Beastformers) and with them some of the original Beast Wars series' cast. I expected him to be the leader of the Eukarians we haven't seen yet. Maybe he is, as well. We will see as the comics progress.

If I had to guess, when it comes to a Power of the Primes storyline in IDW, they'll just do the same thing they did with Combiner Wars and Titans Return: briefly shows off some new toys and work the gimmick into a storyline, and after a couple of issues everything will be wrapped up with a nice little bow and swiftly forgotten about as the writers resume the stories they actually want to tell.

Optimus Primal will no doubt be a major player, he may even get the Matrix of Leadership at one point, but once the story is over I'll be surprised if he sticks around for long afterwards. Primal becoming the new leader of Cybertron? Windblade only just got the job, so probably not. Volcanicus? Maybe at one point, but he may end up like Optimus Maximus in the Combiner Wars storyline, the Dinobots combine once and never do so again after the story has concluded. Prime Masters? Many of the Pretender characters used in the toyline are dead in the IDW continuity, so it'll be interesting to see how the comics handle the idea, if they choose to at all.

Munkky wrote:If I had to guess, when it comes to a Power of the Primes storyline in IDW, they'll just do the same thing they did with Combiner Wars and Titans Return: briefly shows off some new toys and work the gimmick into a storyline, and after a couple of issues everything will be wrapped up with a nice little bow and swiftly forgotten about as the writers resume the stories they actually want to tell.

That's exactly what I wanted to express

Munkky wrote:Optimus Primal will no doubt be a major player, he may even get the Matrix of Leadership at one point, but once the story is over I'll be surprised if he sticks around for long afterwards. Primal becoming the new leader of Cybertron? Windblade only just got the job, so probably not. Volcanicus? Maybe at one point, but he may end up like Optimus Maximus in the Combiner Wars storyline, the Dinobots combine once and never do so again after the story has concluded.

And that's pretty likely.

I wouldn't hold out too much hope, plus remember what happened to poor old rhinox...if anything you'll see him in crowd shots...like he has already.

On reflection though if they are brave enough, they could introduce the Beast era factions and give us a series where maximals face down the autobots (this is an example).

If this Optimal Optimus figure functions as the prototypes (not concept art) indicate, it may very well end up the 'Leader Evolution' mold with the most play value, since his 'trailer' can still function as a mostly-complete gorilla and because his combine alt mode allows for both sufing monkey and the more classic Optimal Optimus beast mode with the cannon chunk on the back. This make me hope he's transformable directly from complete beast mode to complete robot mode without too much part removal.

I also wonder if his chest cockpit won't be grey to allow for a better Optimus Primal figure.

You know, it just hit me who else the Optimal Optimus mold (but not the smaller Optimus Primal mold) could be redone as besides Primal Prime.

This guy's suit:

Sabrblade wrote:You know, it just hit me who else the Optimal Optimus mold (but not the smaller Optimus Primal mold) could be redone as besides Primal Prime.

This guy's suit:

Hah, that would make for an interesting custom that's for sure.

I'm holding out hope for a Beast Machines Megatron version of Primal Prime myself.

Did people already forget that Primal was announced for the Machinima cartoon voiced by Ron Perlman? Why so much question of if he'll be in it?

Emerje