Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids
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To follow up from the previous news about an additional BotCon figure, showing the Generations Skids mold in a Trailcutter/breaker-esque / Diaclone Skids redeco, weibo user Lost-Zzl has added a small selection of higher quality photos of the figure. Check them out mirrored below, and let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub!
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Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685064)
Posted by Emerje on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
With the lack of faction symbols I'm going with new guy from the Diaclone universe to match the box set. I doubt they were just forgotten.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685066)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:42pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:42pm CDT
Or the neutral-aligned FlatlineEmerje wrote:With the lack of faction symbols I'm going with new guy from the Diaclone universe to match the box set. I doubt they were just forgotten.
Emerje
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685070)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:51pm CDT
Diaclone had no sentient robots at all. Just piloted mechs.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:51pm CDT
Emerje wrote:With the lack of faction symbols I'm going with new guy from the Diaclone universe to match the box set. I doubt they were just forgotten.
Emerje
Diaclone had no sentient robots at all. Just piloted mechs.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685071)
Posted by shajaki on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:52pm CDT
I posted the first story this morning, and my opinion was kinda just an indifferent "huh... neat". But with these new images.... I'm really diggin him. Like REALLY.
Is it accurate to the original Diaclone? I mean, did the Diaclone have a mouth or faceplate?
Is it accurate to the original Diaclone? I mean, did the Diaclone have a mouth or faceplate?
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685072)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
It mainly depended on the color:
Humanoid Face (Skids)
Blue
Red
Black
Faceplate (Crosscut)
Red
Silver
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I posted the first story this morning, and my opinion was kinda just an indifferent "huh... neat". But with these new images.... I'm really diggin him. Like REALLY.
Is it accurate to the original Diaclone? I mean, did the Diaclone have a mouth or faceplate?
It mainly depended on the color:
Humanoid Face (Skids)
Blue
Red
Black
Faceplate (Crosscut)
Red
Silver
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685100)
Posted by Stryfe Convoy on May 13th, 2015 @ 3:38pm CDT
Posted by Stryfe Convoy on May 13th, 2015 @ 3:38pm CDT
I'd buy that in retail. That looks pretty nice.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685111)
Posted by Emerje on May 13th, 2015 @ 3:56pm CDT
In the IDW comics Alpha Trion mentions the "Diaclona Tribe" on Cybertron so the idea of a universe where Cybertron is populated by sentient Diaclones isn't much of a stretch.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 13th, 2015 @ 3:56pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:With the lack of faction symbols I'm going with new guy from the Diaclone universe to match the box set. I doubt they were just forgotten.
Emerje
Diaclone had no sentient robots at all. Just piloted mechs.
In the IDW comics Alpha Trion mentions the "Diaclona Tribe" on Cybertron so the idea of a universe where Cybertron is populated by sentient Diaclones isn't much of a stretch.
Emerje
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685121)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:12pm CDT
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:12pm CDT
Huh, it looks nice, black redecos have a tendency to look classy, this doesn't dissapoint 
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685125)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:16pm CDT
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:16pm CDT
I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685128)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:24pm CDT
The Crosscut head has a vaguely Optimus feel to it...
Posted by Agamemnon on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:24pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
The Crosscut head has a vaguely Optimus feel to it...
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685131)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
*checks the Diaclone versions of Skids again*
*noticed the one in the lower right is red with a blue head*
*Is reminded of G2 Go-Bot Optimus Prime*
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
The Crosscut head has a vaguely Optimus feel to it...
*checks the Diaclone versions of Skids again*
*noticed the one in the lower right is red with a blue head*
*Is reminded of G2 Go-Bot Optimus Prime*
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685148)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:58pm CDT
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 13th, 2015 @ 4:58pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685153)
Posted by prjkt on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:03pm CDT
The Thunderclash mould is still a lot more "primey" (
) than Roadster... I wonder if this repaint will get the Euro G2 name for G2 Optimus, "Sureshot" is a military enough name.
Posted by prjkt on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:03pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
The Thunderclash mould is still a lot more "primey" (
) than Roadster... I wonder if this repaint will get the Euro G2 name for G2 Optimus, "Sureshot" is a military enough name.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685157)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:07pm CDT
That's for sure- I was just thinking of the head I hope it's a new character- I'm Optimus and Bumblebee'd out for the next several years
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:07pm CDT
prjkt wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
The Thunderclash mould is still a lot more "primey" (
That's for sure- I was just thinking of the head
I hope it's a new character- I'm Optimus and Bumblebee'd out for the next several years
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685163)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CDT
Oooh. I like the idea of the name being Sureshot (Prime). I may call mine that regardless of what he's called on the proverbial box.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685164)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CDT
I could see the club beeline for that name actually
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 13th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CDT
prjkt wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
The Thunderclash mould is still a lot more "primey" (
I could see the club beeline for that name actually
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685178)
Posted by prjkt on May 13th, 2015 @ 6:10pm CDT
Posted by prjkt on May 13th, 2015 @ 6:10pm CDT
sure it's a different mould to the original that was named Sureshot, but the name hasn't been used since has it?
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685222)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 13th, 2015 @ 8:14pm CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 13th, 2015 @ 8:14pm CDT
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685247)
Posted by megatronus on May 13th, 2015 @ 9:33pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 13th, 2015 @ 9:33pm CDT
Would anyone else be totally down for a box set of black repaints? Make them a Black-Ops (awful pun intended!); the stealthy brains to The Wreckers muscle, and write a story around the concept.
-Black Tracks
-Black Skids
-Black Sideswipe (G2, I guess)
-Black Ironhide
-Some Black Voyager???
I would be all over that.
-Black Tracks
-Black Skids
-Black Sideswipe (G2, I guess)
-Black Ironhide
-Some Black Voyager???
I would be all over that.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685261)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 13th, 2015 @ 9:49pm CDT
Blackarachnia, Onyx Primal, Ravage, BW Scorponok, and Bonecrusher can be their adversaries in the add-on sets.
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 13th, 2015 @ 9:49pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Would anyone else be totally down for a box set of black repaints? Make them a Black-Ops (awful pun intended!); the stealthy brains to The Wreckers muscle, and write a story around the concept.
-Black Tracks
-Black Skids
-Black Sideswipe (G2, I guess)
-Black Ironhide
-Some Black Voyager???
I would be all over that.
Blackarachnia, Onyx Primal, Ravage, BW Scorponok, and Bonecrusher can be their adversaries in the add-on sets.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685316)
Posted by Stryfe Convoy on May 13th, 2015 @ 10:57pm CDT
When you say Tracks, Sideswipe, and Ironhide, I'm assuming you're talking about Classics/Universe. With that assumption made, I wouldn't even both with a black voyager. You can throw a black Reveal the Shield Jazz in there, or a black Hound, and You'd have a good 5 pc set. Hell, throw a black Wheeljack in there, see how well it sells. I'd buy it...
Posted by Stryfe Convoy on May 13th, 2015 @ 10:57pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Would anyone else be totally down for a box set of black repaints? Make them a Black-Ops (awful pun intended!); the stealthy brains to The Wreckers muscle, and write a story around the concept.
-Black Tracks
-Black Skids
-Black Sideswipe (G2, I guess)
-Black Ironhide
-Some Black Voyager???
I would be all over that.
When you say Tracks, Sideswipe, and Ironhide, I'm assuming you're talking about Classics/Universe. With that assumption made, I wouldn't even both with a black voyager. You can throw a black Reveal the Shield Jazz in there, or a black Hound, and You'd have a good 5 pc set. Hell, throw a black Wheeljack in there, see how well it sells. I'd buy it...
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685322)
Posted by megatronus on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
I was just trying to think of black redecos we haven't gotten out of Classics/Generations. I didn't care who the characters are too much, or what molds they come from. But black is always in.
Posted by megatronus on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Stryfe Convoy wrote:megatronus wrote:Would anyone else be totally down for a box set of black repaints? Make them a Black-Ops (awful pun intended!); the stealthy brains to The Wreckers muscle, and write a story around the concept.
-Black Tracks
-Black Skids
-Black Sideswipe (G2, I guess)
-Black Ironhide
-Some Black Voyager???
I would be all over that.
When you say Tracks, Sideswipe, and Ironhide, I'm assuming you're talking about Classics/Universe. With that assumption made, I wouldn't even both with a black voyager. You can throw a black Reveal the Shield Jazz in there, or a black Hound, and You'd have a good 5 pc set. Hell, throw a black Wheeljack in there, see how well it sells. I'd buy it...
I was just trying to think of black redecos we haven't gotten out of Classics/Generations. I didn't care who the characters are too much, or what molds they come from. But black is always in.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685323)
Posted by no-one on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:13pm CDT
Posted by no-one on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:13pm CDT
That's a sharp deco Skids is wearing there.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685368)
Posted by Flashwave on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:22am CDT
Little Scooter.
Posted by Flashwave on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:22am CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:I think he'll be another character, an Optimus makes sense given there's a Megatron on the set, but there's no way Hasbro will allow a toy to bear that name without a proper Optimus Prime head.the deco is very nice, though.
Machine Wars Optimus wasn't vaguely 'primey'
I'd love to see them do a little scooter. That's what I thought Crosscut was missing
Little Scooter.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685375)
Posted by RhA on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:42am CDT
Posted by RhA on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:42am CDT
Well, if anything this thread makes me want to buy a Generations Crosscut.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685481)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Yeah, I have to agree. A box set with a very clear theme — like five black figures — seems like a really good way to go.
While I admit, I DO like getting some figures that match with previous years SG or G2 sets... I don't want the ones in the set to appear random... and it's seemed that way for quite a few years now. Even the Machine Wars set had Beast Machines heavily mixed into its content... and the G2 set had SkyByte in it.
Looking back, I think the Stunticon, SG year one, Beast Wars redux and Wings set nailed it.
Again, I DO want an assortment of figures that throw a nod to various fans and factions... I just want the set to be really matchy-matchy. (all black, all white, all Diaclone homage, all race cars, all one gestalt, all one TV show...
BUT getting back on track... the more I look at this black Skids, the more I love it. Absolutely excellent.
While I admit, I DO like getting some figures that match with previous years SG or G2 sets... I don't want the ones in the set to appear random... and it's seemed that way for quite a few years now. Even the Machine Wars set had Beast Machines heavily mixed into its content... and the G2 set had SkyByte in it.
Looking back, I think the Stunticon, SG year one, Beast Wars redux and Wings set nailed it.
Again, I DO want an assortment of figures that throw a nod to various fans and factions... I just want the set to be really matchy-matchy. (all black, all white, all Diaclone homage, all race cars, all one gestalt, all one TV show...
BUT getting back on track... the more I look at this black Skids, the more I love it. Absolutely excellent.
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Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 10:26am CDT
100% agree - clear themes for the box set! The random figures should be the polybagged attendee sets.
Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 10:26am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I have to agree. A box set with a very clear theme - like five black figures - seems like a really good way to go.
While I admit, I DO like getting some figures that match with previous years SG or G2 sets... I don't want the ones in the set to appear random... and it's seemed that way for quite a few years now. Even the Machine Wars set had Beast Machines heavily mixed into its content... and the G2 set had SkyByte in it.
Looking back, I think the Stunticon, SG year one, Beast Wars redux and Wings set nailed it.
Again, I DO want an assortment of figures that throw a nod to various fans and factions... I just want the set to be really matchy-matchy. (all black, all white, all Diaclone homage, all race cars, all one gestalt, all one TV show...
BUT getting back on track... the more I look at this black Skids, the more I love it. Absolutely excellent.
100% agree - clear themes for the box set! The random figures should be the polybagged attendee sets.
Re: Additional In-Hand Images - Possible BotCon 2015 Diaclone Black Skids (1685564)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:40pm CDT
(Of course, I'm guessing some of these weird box sets may be dictated by which five toys they can actually FIT in the box. (???)) I'll try to cut them a little slack. 
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
Why is this year's theme so hard to understand? It is what it was said to be back when it was first announced. Five misfit criminals from different walks of life (and worlds) brought together by common purpose.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
It's the toys themselves that don't follow a single pattern, there's nothing that really binds them together when it comes to deco and characters, or origins thereof.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why is this year's theme so hard to understand? It is what it was said to be back when it was first announced. Five misfit criminals from different walks of life (and worlds) brought together by common purpose.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
It's the toys themselves that don't follow a single pattern, there's nothing that really binds them together when it comes to deco and characters, or origins thereof.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:50pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:50pm CDT
That's what makes them misfits.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why is this year's theme so hard to understand? It is what it was said to be back when it was first announced. Five misfit criminals from different walks of life (and worlds) brought together by common purpose.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
It's the toys themselves that don't follow a single pattern, there's nothing that really binds them together when it comes to deco and characters, or origins thereof.
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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:54pm CDT
The problem is there's no direction.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 14th, 2015 @ 1:54pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That's what makes them misfits.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why is this year's theme so hard to understand? It is what it was said to be back when it was first announced. Five misfit criminals from different walks of life (and worlds) brought together by common purpose.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
It's the toys themselves that don't follow a single pattern, there's nothing that really binds them together when it comes to deco and characters, or origins thereof.
The problem is there's no direction.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:02pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:02pm CDT
"Five unrelated individuals who would typically have no connection to each other being brought together" pretty clearly seems to be the intended direction they were going for.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's what makes them misfits.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why is this year's theme so hard to understand? It is what it was said to be back when it was first announced. Five misfit criminals from different walks of life (and worlds) brought together by common purpose.
Emphasis on the "misfit" part.
It's the toys themselves that don't follow a single pattern, there's nothing that really binds them together when it comes to deco and characters, or origins thereof.
The problem is there's no direction.
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Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:06pm CDT
They don't match... so you make the THEME that they don't match. Problem solved!
But still, I AM loving a lot of these toys this year. Not knocking the theme or toys, just wondering if they could be grouped differently.
But still, I AM loving a lot of these toys this year. Not knocking the theme or toys, just wondering if they could be grouped differently.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:08pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:08pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:They don't match... so you make the THEME that they don't match. Problem solved!
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Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CDT
Sabr, just because the Club Fiction somehow finds a way to shoehorn these guys together, doesn't mean it's intuitive or makes sense beyond that.
You have a tendency to blindly defend the Club's choices. Which is fine, I guess... but don't treat questions as if they're coming out of nowhere or are in no way reasonable based on the reality on the ground.
Exactly this. Exactly this.
You have a tendency to blindly defend the Club's choices. Which is fine, I guess... but don't treat questions as if they're coming out of nowhere or are in no way reasonable based on the reality on the ground.
gothsaurus wrote:They don't match... so you make the THEME that they don't match. Problem solved!
Exactly this. Exactly this.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:39pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:39pm CDT
It's just, they told us that the theme was going to be "Misfit Criminals" from the get-go, so what's baffling to me is that people still don't get it when the answer was already given a long time ago.
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Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
It's not that I don't GET IT... it's just that a lot can be done to ensure the toys DISPLAY well together... and logically sit-well in your mind as a set. Having a beast, shattered glass, movie character, Pretender and Duocon mixed comes across weird to many people — when we know some could be in the bagged sets.
Again, it's the GROUPING that is weird... not including the characters in the 2015 story or selection. I'm loving them this year, especially if we get Skids and SureShot Prime in the batch.
SO I get that they are in a story together and that's good-enough-for-you... but I am an artist, so visuals have a lot more clout to me than some other people (like the programmers I work with.) I do think the color schemes will look nice together this year. All that blue and gray with a touch of orange is a good color palette.
After we see the rest of the figures, it may turn out to be the best choice to put these five in a box. We will see.
Again, it's the GROUPING that is weird... not including the characters in the 2015 story or selection. I'm loving them this year, especially if we get Skids and SureShot Prime in the batch.
SO I get that they are in a story together and that's good-enough-for-you... but I am an artist, so visuals have a lot more clout to me than some other people (like the programmers I work with.) I do think the color schemes will look nice together this year. All that blue and gray with a touch of orange is a good color palette.
After we see the rest of the figures, it may turn out to be the best choice to put these five in a box. We will see.
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Posted by King Kuuga on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
The entire point of the set is that they have nothing in common. It's not complicated.
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Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Misfit criminals is one thing. You can have a cohesive group of misfits.
Mis-matching misfit criminals is another thing entirely. Do we need 5 misfits from 5 separate universes? Even from a character's given universe, their representation can be jarring (a la SG Stepper) or confusing (a la DOTM Megatron). Together as a group it's even harder to wrap your head around. Sure, the comic will explain it, but that fiction will be necessarily contrived. So it just doesn't sit right.
Posted by megatronus on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's just, they told us that the theme was going to be "Misfit Criminals" from the get-go, so what's baffling to me is that people still don't get it when the answer was already given a long time ago.
Misfit criminals is one thing. You can have a cohesive group of misfits.
Mis-matching misfit criminals is another thing entirely. Do we need 5 misfits from 5 separate universes? Even from a character's given universe, their representation can be jarring (a la SG Stepper) or confusing (a la DOTM Megatron). Together as a group it's even harder to wrap your head around. Sure, the comic will explain it, but that fiction will be necessarily contrived. So it just doesn't sit right.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Ever since Fun Pub started doing themes for BotCon sets, the themes have virtually always been rooted in whatever the story was to be in the convention comic.
Can anyone honestly tell what the 2005 "Descent Into Evil" theme was by looking at that year's toys without looking at that year's comic?
It's been like this since the beginning.
Can anyone honestly tell what the 2005 "Descent Into Evil" theme was by looking at that year's toys without looking at that year's comic?
It's been like this since the beginning.
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Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:16pm CDT
Seriously. I'm just talking about choosing a different five toys out of the 20 that will be at the con to put in the box... because they would look better together.
Same story, different mix.
Look better.
How the toys look.
Things matching.
When you put that monkey, car, rat, truck and helicopter on a shelf and try to tell your girlfriend that they ALLLLL "go together", you'll see what I'm talking about.
Same story, different mix.
Look better.
How the toys look.
Things matching.
When you put that monkey, car, rat, truck and helicopter on a shelf and try to tell your girlfriend that they ALLLLL "go together", you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 14th, 2015 @ 5:59pm CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 14th, 2015 @ 5:59pm CDT
It's a mess. Just because they acknowledge it's a mess doesn't mean it's clean... it's still a fucking mess.
They build the box around the figures. You can see a difference between the '05 and '09 boxsets.gothsaurus wrote:(Of course, I'm guessing some of these weird box sets may be dictated by which five toys they can actually FIT in the box. (???)) I'll try to cut them a little slack.
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Posted by Hero Alpha on May 15th, 2015 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 15th, 2015 @ 12:17pm CDT
As mismatched/matched badly as some people are claiming this set to be, I still love that DoTM Megatron. Again if anyone wants to sell theirs for a decent price I'm down.
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Posted by gothsaurus on May 15th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on May 15th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
Yeah, Moonshot, I agree. I'm loving just about everything revealed so far. The Megatron grew on me pretty quickly.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2015 @ 7:30pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2015 @ 7:30pm CDT
The following idea was just proposed elsewhere.
Remember the redeco of Chop Shop we were shown before that was confirmed to be a BotCon 2015 non-boxed set figure?
Though we guessed Vice Grip, with the appearance of the black Diaclone based Skids redeco, what if the Chop Shop redeco is instead meant to be a Diaclone driver figure? Specifically one of the Waruder Insecter Robo drivers?
Remember the redeco of Chop Shop we were shown before that was confirmed to be a BotCon 2015 non-boxed set figure?
Though we guessed Vice Grip, with the appearance of the black Diaclone based Skids redeco, what if the Chop Shop redeco is instead meant to be a Diaclone driver figure? Specifically one of the Waruder Insecter Robo drivers?
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Posted by shajaki on May 17th, 2015 @ 7:40pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 17th, 2015 @ 7:40pm CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
Another batch of potential BotCon exclusives - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.74.r9RYCh&id=45477430507
The leftmost one is based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator (thus making him a dead ringer for Shattered Glass Waspinator).
The second-left one is based on the unreleased Universe (2003) "Halloween Horrorcon Value Pack" Waspinator.
The two on the right, however, have decos that aren't as obvious.
The leftmost one is based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator (thus making him a dead ringer for Shattered Glass Waspinator).
The second-left one is based on the unreleased Universe (2003) "Halloween Horrorcon Value Pack" Waspinator.
The two on the right, however, have decos that aren't as obvious.
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Posted by prjkt on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:48pm CDT
Posted by prjkt on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:48pm CDT
purple one looks cool, others a little too much for me imo... sure these aren't KOs? Though the timing does suggest otherwise.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:58pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:58pm CDT
No one's sure of anything, as there's no confirmation either way.prjkt wrote:purple one looks cool, others a little too much for me imo... sure these aren't KOs? Though the timing does suggest otherwise.
