Additional Images and Listings for Walmart Exclusive Beast Wars Reissues
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There are listings now for all 4 Beast Wars reissues. The listings do confirm that Rattrap and Cheetor are in the same class/price point. The listings come with new images showcasing the mutant masks and the weapon storage. Rattrap and Cheetor have subtle deco differences, but Megatron and Optimus have much more obvious differences. Megatron no longer has silver paint on his head, for instance and Optimus has very light coloured weaponry and no red on his robot mode chest, among other deco changes.
These will come in their original boxes and the listings below should become live with preorders this tuesday:
Megatron https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers/791542741
Optimus Prime https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers/632803916
Rattrap https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /200598161
Cheetor https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers/662391149
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Posted by blackeyedprime on March 13th, 2021 @ 3:46pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 13th, 2021 @ 3:50pm CST
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 13th, 2021 @ 4:32pm CST
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Barney Megatron is a bad figure. Arguably the worst Predacon design of the original line.
I think it's an awesome design. Have the leader turn into a T Rex is as cool as it can get. And I like the design. If we are gonna talk about gimmicks hampering toys, I feel that's the case with Primal. Really hate not being able to move his arms freely without hearing the gears clicking in miscontent.Dragma Kerp wrote:I hope those reissues are not walmart exclusive T_TSabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, back during the 10th Anniversary line, Hasbro went looking for that mold and either couldn't find it or it was lost beyond recovery.GrangerPerry wrote:Or a states release for the first time of ravage would be nice
I hear that but no one ever presents evidence of this. Was that said in an interview or at a show somewhere? I thought they didn't put Rattrap because he didn't fit the price point.
Isn't this where we came in?
Posted by Dead Metal on March 14th, 2021 @ 1:35am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Dead Metal wrote:william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:Anyone else wanting the original Dinobot?His tail gimmick seens a lot of fun.
I'm good. I have a good copy of the original. Not a big fan if that toy though, it's very awkward.
The best thing about that toy is how people used to believe it actually used parts of the Jurassic Park Raptor.
I have the BW Neo Hardhead retool, and he's fun to transform. Compared to his contemporaries, Dinobot's articulation isn't as restricted. True, the legs could have been dealt with better, but it was a learning moment for everyone.
Hardhead always appealed to me. I never liked the look of Dinobot, even the show model took a while to grow on me, but Hardhead looked great. I really wanted a retool of the Universe Dinobot (god I recently rediscovered that thing and I questioned why I thought it looked amazing at the time XD) mold into Hardhead.
I would like to add, that the packaging isn't actually the original. It's inspired by it, but it has a couple differences. The background is better defined, the artwork is clearer and placed differently, and they changed some of the writing on it. But honestly, I think it looks much better than the original. Even though I kinda miss the original tags for the modes.
Posted by Emerje on March 14th, 2021 @ 6:56am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 14th, 2021 @ 2:19pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Not sure how I feel about Primal's weapons all being baby blue now. I do like that his head is now a darker blue like the 10th anniversary version. Looks like the back of his head is no longer red (what a missed opportunity for light piping!) so I guess they must have painted his eyes red unless the whole head is painted.
Emerje
The back of the head is gangmolded with the arm gun, the foot pistons and the flipping gorilla face, so light-piping wasn't as high a priority as having eyes that didn't need to be painted.
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2021 @ 9:15pm CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on April 22nd, 2021 @ 9:41pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 22nd, 2021 @ 9:44pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2021 @ 9:59pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:This is good news! The silver helmet was make or break for me. I don't want cartoon accurate colors on reissue toys. That's what Kingdom and 10th anniversary toys are for. IMO, reissues are meant to be as accurate to the original toy as possible.
We'll only know for sure when we find him in stores
Posted by Betenoire on April 22nd, 2021 @ 11:30pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 23rd, 2021 @ 1:02am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2021 @ 6:07am CDT
It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2021 @ 3:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.
Emerje
I guess the Kingdom one will fill that spot, with the reissue toy-accurate.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Terrorsaur scheduled in a later wave? If so... what mold would they use? I just learned that there are two distinct molds for the Basic Pteranodon: the original Terrorsaur, and Lazorbeak with minor differences in proportions, plus an indent for a mood sticker. Here's which mold made that figure, according to TFWiki:
Terrorsaur
Terrorsaur (original run)
Fractyl
AoE Dinobot Strafe
Lazorbeak
Terrorsaur (later EU runs)
Lazorbeak
BW Neo Hydra
Dinobots Terranotron/Swoop
More than likely the original Terrorsaur mold, but... Why make a variant mold at all?!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 25th, 2021 @ 3:34am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 25th, 2021 @ 8:28am CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.
Emerje
I guess the Kingdom one will fill that spot, with the reissue toy-accurate.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Terrorsaur scheduled in a later wave? If so... what mold would they use? I just learned that there are two distinct molds for the Basic Pteranodon: the original Terrorsaur, and Lazorbeak with minor differences in proportions, plus an indent for a mood sticker. Here's which mold made that figure, according to TFWiki:
Terrorsaur
Terrorsaur (original run)
Fractyl
AoE Dinobot Strafe
Lazorbeak
Terrorsaur (later EU runs)
Lazorbeak
BW Neo Hydra
Dinobots Terranotron/Swoop
More than likely the original Terrorsaur mold, but... Why make a variant mold at all?!
We only know of this first wave for the Beast Wars reissues. We know they have the original run mold close at hand so I'd guess they would use that one.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 25th, 2021 @ 7:15pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 26th, 2021 @ 5:43am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Putting more thought into that Optimus, the mutant mask looks really sharp
I personally love the Mutant masks, on my original bw Megs, I used to cover one side of it (the only part of the mask remaining) and pretend he had a phantom of the opera vibe going on
Posted by Emerje on April 26th, 2021 @ 6:59am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Putting more thought into that Optimus, the mutant mask looks really sharp
I personally love the Mutant masks, on my original bw Megs, I used to cover one side of it (the only part of the mask remaining) and pretend he had a phantom of the opera vibe going on
Yeah, I was always very partial to the Megatron mask. It has always reminded me of some of the various versions of the Final Fantasy Dark Knight helmets.
Emerje
Posted by Tuned Agent on June 6th, 2021 @ 4:22pm CDT
PrimeVsPrime's review is embedded below, as well as an image of the original Beast Wars Megatron from Seibertron's own galleries so you can compare the two releases for yourself. For Megatron's full gallery, just click on the image below.
What do you think? Are these changes a deal breaker, or do these differences make this release worth buying? Let us know in the Energon Pub forums!
Posted by Lore Keeper on June 6th, 2021 @ 11:50pm CDT
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Posted by Spider5800 on June 7th, 2021 @ 12:50pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 7th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CDT
It's likely for adults now, who grew up with BW, but haven't seen the toys in many years, same idea with most "G1" re-releases. Most hardcore fans can tell the differences, but many casual "fans-when-they-were-kids" wont really know the difference.
Heck, it's even been asserted at times, that modern-figures in retro packaging (ex. The Headmasters at Walmart) -some casual "fan-when-they-were-a-kid" might even think they ARE reproductions of the original toys .
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 7th, 2021 @ 1:02pm CDT
Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 7th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.
What piece?
Posted by aronjlove on June 7th, 2021 @ 1:58pm CDT
People like me who didn't have any of the originals. Toy or cartoon accuracy also isn't a huge stickler for me, these are close enough.Spider5800 wrote:Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?
Posted by william-james88 on June 30th, 2021 @ 11:53am CDT
Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Rattrap Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /200598161?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Cheetor Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /662391149?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Let us know if your order works out, you never know with Walmart.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 30th, 2021 @ 5:45pm CDT
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 2nd, 2021 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 5th, 2021 @ 12:47am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 8th, 2021 @ 1:22am CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.
The hold on the order has been released and I have the money back in my Paypal account. Don't know what to do.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2021 @ 7:59pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 20th, 2021 @ 11:17pm CDT
Firstly, unlike what some naysayers can say, this reissue's plastic quality is as good as the original 1996 toy. My OG Cheetor's joints have gotten really loose over time so it's nice to have a Cheetor with nice tight joints (but not too tight). This is a quality reissue, nothing feels cheap.
Mold wise, this is not the same mold used for the original Cheetor. It becomes more obvious when looking at the fur and the gut gun. The details are not the same with the fur curling in a different direction and the gut gun's innards pattern looks more organic and misshapen around the edges in the original, while more even on the reissue.
In terms of deco, I am impressed at how they used a yellow plastic that is very close to the original. I thought my OG Cheetor had faded since he wasn't bright yellow but as it turns out, that is indeed his original colour.
The blue paint on the reissue is of a brighter blue, similar to the MP and the Netflix toy, while the original looks more navy (well that's what it looks like now). Also, and this could simply be due to the passage of time, the bronze parts are much nicer on the reissue while mine look more brownish.
But these are all just slight differences, and could be due to age. The main difference is in the three sets of eyes, the beast eyes, robot eyes and mutant eyes. On my OG toy, they are all the same 90s rad fluo green. It gives it a nice uniformity from one mode to the next. In the reissue, all three sets have a different deco. The eyes on the beast mode are a darker forest green, the eyes for the robot mode are bright salmon and the eyes for the mutant head are bronze.
Overall, the quality is as good as you could hope on this reissue and I am glad to have a fresh new "OG" Cheetor in my collection.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2021 @ 5:17pm CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).
Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 21st, 2021 @ 8:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).
Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.
One of Takara's variants of Cheetus: Cheetus on TFU.info
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 21st, 2021 @ 8:54pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2021 @ 9:02pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2021 @ 5:06pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 18th, 2021 @ 5:13pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?
Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 18th, 2021 @ 5:55pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2021 @ 3:25am CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?
Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.
One of my local Walmarts just reset and didn't have space set aside fore these.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2021 @ 11:27am CDT
https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/c/cTFbwv/
They've also slightly renamed the line as "Transformers: Beast Wars Vintage".
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 7th, 2021 @ 12:39pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 7th, 2021 @ 2:47pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.
So both shipped from Walmart?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 7th, 2021 @ 3:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.
So both shipped from Walmart?
Yes, both. Two orders actually as I thought the first one was canceled.