A Better Look at New Transformers Robots in Disguise Figure Paralon

That's a BIG cranium. Like he's wearing a goofy-looking puffy hat.

While playing around with him some more I discovered that if yiu take his arms off those shoulder claws come off and they can snap around his hook hands for an better beast wars look.

He has BW Scorponok's head?!?


Well damn, I may need that as well now.

Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

Not gonna lie, I'm actually not liking the head on paralon... it's a pretty great likeness/homage to BW Scorponok, I love that it can really look like scorps too with the legs on it's sides, and big claws, actually really, really well done

grimdragon2001 wrote:Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

I kind of hope so since both of the decos so far are very similar to two existing RiD cons Quillfire and Fracture.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Heh, I was going to post these pics from the thread on 4chan! Whoops!

(I never knew Down_Shift was a /toy/ soldier...)

So what do you think of the new seeker mold?

Well, I can only speak from what I can see in Down_Shift's photos, but...I'm not impressed. The robot mode looks good...from the front. The overall shape, the wings and the shoulder pads are all cool but he's so damned hollow it isn't funny. The legs, the arms, the back, even the HEAD is hollowed out. Also, the headsculpt is (IMO) seriously ugly.

The jet mode looks OK from the top but holy undercarriage junk, Batman! The shoulderpads make the wings utterly useless and the hollowness continues unabated.

Also, the plastic has the "metallic swirl of doom" which at best makes him look horribly cheap and at worst is potentially a signifier of the figure crumbling to bits in a few years.

Jeez the head is hollow, this is getting a little out of hand - definitely won't pay $23 for this now

On the flip side, the head and guns are cast in the same blue plastic as the feet and forearms, meaning the entire headsculpt's deco is painted.

Loving Paralon, way better colors for the mold! Prime is a skip, already own the mold (the previous version minus wings and things). Starscream looks really cool, but he does look extremely hollow...

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:If you can't tell Prime is my most hated show due to wasted potential and lack of characterization outside of a couple of characters.

I dont think any of us could tell when your signature has a Prime image in it. I thought it was your favourite show, no joke.

I do love the Prime aesthetic the robots have (except the bland silver noseless faces) and the dude in my sig is my OC Deadput that I made up during when Transformers Universe was a thing also said OC is based on the purple Japanese release of Terrocon Cliffjumper since I don't think purple works for Cliff like at all.


Well it's complicated it was my fave show and I loved it watching it through until the end but it was during Predacons rising and after the show was over I realized that I was supremely disappointed I mean not even the Bay movies disappointed me as much as Prime did.


I just wish it was better

SureShot18 wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

I kind of hope so since both of the decos so far are very similar to two existing RiD cons Quillfire and Fracture.

They probably wont, Takara Tomy doesn't like to use the same mold more than once if they can help it. At the very least they might do him as a magazine exclusive or something, but not likely for retail.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

I kind of hope so since both of the decos so far are very similar to two existing RiD cons Quillfire and Fracture.

They probably wont, Takara Tomy doesn't like to use the same mold more than once if they can help it. At the very least they might do him as a magazine exclusive or something, but not likely for retail.

Emerje

Yeah I realize that is just the unfortunate truth, sadly.

SureShot18 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

I kind of hope so since both of the decos so far are very similar to two existing RiD cons Quillfire and Fracture.

They probably wont, Takara Tomy doesn't like to use the same mold more than once if they can help it. At the very least they might do him as a magazine exclusive or something, but not likely for retail.

Emerje

Yeah I realize that is just the unfortunate truth, sadly.

Our best hope is either a 3rd Party or KO...

Actually, that tends to just be true in the Legends line. Meanwhile in the TAV line, they've seen virtue in giving Strongarm and Steeljaw exclusive new decos in Grejeeber and Phantomjaw -- if they're fine with making random recolours out of nowhere, I'm sure they'll be fine with new tooling.

Kurona wrote:Actually, that tends to just be true in the Legends line. Meanwhile in the TAV line, they've seen virtue in giving Strongarm and Steeljaw exclusive new decos in Grejeeber and Phantomjaw -- if they're fine with making random recolours out of nowhere, I'm sure they'll be fine with new tooling.

So not all hope is lost for a BW Scorponok deco and, hopefully, we'll be able to get a Skywarp or Thundercracker out of Starscream. Heck, since they've made new characters out of recolors we might even get a brand new seeker! Wishful thinking though...

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Kurona wrote:Actually, that tends to just be true in the Legends line. Meanwhile in the TAV line, they've seen virtue in giving Strongarm and Steeljaw exclusive new decos in Grejeeber and Phantomjaw -- if they're fine with making random recolours out of nowhere, I'm sure they'll be fine with new tooling.

So not all hope is lost for a BW Scorponok deco and, hopefully, we'll be able to get a Skywarp or Thundercracker out of Starscream. Heck, since they've made new characters out of recolors we might even get a brand new seeker! Wishful thinking though...

Takara saw fit to make warp and cracker out of TFP Starscream, so it's definitely a possibility.

Plus they've done redecoes in the line referencing the characters' "origin" before. Take Drift for instance; they released his warrior toy as normal, but then later done a redeco of him in his IDW whites and reds.

Wow! I didn't notice that his face is almost identical to BW Scorponok! Maybe this is going to be used in the Takara Legends line for that 20th year anniversary of Beast Wars celebration? That would be pretty dope!

Am I the only one unhappy to see Starscream again? At the very least, some Predacon wounds would have been nice.

Freakin' popularity contest, I swear.

Zeedust wrote:Am I the only one unhappy to see Starscream again? At the very least, some Predacon wounds would have been nice.

Wounds he wouldn't have had treated after all the years that passed between Prime and RID? Knowing how vain Screamer is, surely he would have treated them.

For all we know, this new body design could be the result of his injuries, with him needing to get a new body after the Preds wrecked him in his previous one.

Zeedust wrote:Am I the only one unhappy to see Starscream again? At the very least, some Predacon wounds would have been nice.

Freakin' popularity contest, I swear.

To be fair, the entire show is a popularity contest. The leader is Bumblebee and Prime shows up once in a while to sell more toys. Plus you have the popular Drift and Windblade characters show up to cross sell media they were hyped for and lastly you have Grimlock who is ever present. And guess who shows up to help for one episode at a time: none other than Jazz and Ratchet! But all of that is balanced with the villains who are mostly original and extremely inventive in design. So its a fun show to create the biggest amount of new characters in quite a while and hedges on some big names on the good guy side.

Emerje wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:Wonder if Takara will release this in BW Scorponok colors

I kind of hope so since both of the decos so far are very similar to two existing RiD cons Quillfire and Fracture.

They probably wont, Takara Tomy doesn't like to use the same mold more than once if they can help it. At the very least they might do him as a magazine exclusive or something, but not likely for retail.

Emerje

These 3 will probably all show up unchanged in japan at TRU like the last Clash of Transformer figures did last year. Then they could do as they wish. Last year they had their own normal Bumblebee release, plus TRU exclusive Clash Bumblebee and then a remolded Supreme Bumblebee. So the Scorponok mold has a potential of 3 releases in Japan. We already know 2, the third could be a heavier remold using the new head. Just looking at possibilities based on this line last year.

Paralon is pretty cool and it's nice to get a BW homage, but I'd like to see him in Beast Mode at some point.

william-james88 wrote:To be fair, the entire show is a popularity contest. The leader is Bumblebee and Prime shows up once in a while to sell more toys. Plus you have the popular Drift and Windblade characters show up to cross sell media they were hyped for and lastly you have Grimlock who is ever present. And guess who shows up to help for one episode at a time: none other than Jazz and Ratchet! But all of that is balanced with the villains who are mostly original and extremely inventive in design. So its a fun show to create the biggest amount of new characters in quite a while and hedges on some big names on the good guy side.

Point taken. The only "typical" Decepticon design before this Starscream got dropped in was Megatronus. (Soundwave isn't a new design for the show, admittedly, but his TFP design is still a unique take on the character and I still think it's great.) And the take on Grimlock is pretty different too, so I'm inclined to let that slide.

Sabrblade wrote:For all we know, this new body design could be the result of his injuries, with him needing to get a new body after the Preds wrecked him in his previous one.

Nice theory. If they actually address it, I'll be pleased as punch, but I'm not holding my breath.

Might just have to get Starscream because it's Starscream... Thundercracker and Skywarp too, please???

If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Mindmaster wrote:Might just have to get Starscream because it's Starscream... Thundercracker and Skywarp too, please???

If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pincers crossed.

Pity he didn't look like this in Prime.

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Fellow Seibertronians, TFW2005 member Prime135 has found some interesting listings in the Toys R Us computer system. One new listing for an as of yet unknown set entitled 'Decepticon Showdown'. With a price listed as $39.99, it seems like it will be a giftset of some sort, and will likely include several figures, likely representing both factions, although who they are remains to be seen. Another is a listing for a previously unknown RID Power Surge version of Starscream listed as being $29.99. So with two previously unknown figures, Starscream seems to be getting a lot of attention now, might this point to his return to the series? So what do you make of this news? Who do you think is in this giftset? Let us know in the comments below.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

I don't get what you're trying to say

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"

Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."

Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"

Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"

*body slam*

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

In defense of the original toy, the toy came before the show design. The show deviated from the toy, rather than vice versa.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say

Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.

However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"

Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."

Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"

Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"

*body slam*

I honestly can believe that, which is really, really sad. It honestly feels like every bw 'celebratory' thing they try to do ends up being awkward and half-a$$ed, and ends up coming across as a slap in the face to bw fans... 'Hey we're not going to celebrate the anniversary this year', 'hey here's a bmach figure from rid dressed up as g1 prime', 'hey, here's an inappropriately colored bw scorponok homage'... all they had to do was give him black plastic (or whatever color he was translucent gunmetal maybe, some of the photo's look like it)

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say

Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.

However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:

Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close

You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?

I like very much this Warrior Starscream that just came from the RID line, mix between G1 movie and Armada.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?

I'm afraid I don't have any quotes on me, no. It's funny, I could have sworn I'd seen it somewhere but it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. Doesn't help the biggest compendium of TF knowledge (TFWiki) is run by literal Hasbro shills who actually go out of their way to scrub anything that goes against the "Party line" from the wiki, so they probably would have removed it.
EDIT: Never mind, found a screenshot courtesy of the Allspark. It is from David Willis/ItsWalky though so YMMV on reliability.




Anyway, this is off topic and I apologize.

I wonder what TAV Starscream is going to look like?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close

Does it really matter at all in the grand scheme of things?


Lavender and Purple are hardly different colors their just different shades of the same thing Paralon is a Beast Wars Homage not actually the Beast Wars character himself.


Why don't you just paint it if you don't like the color palette and if you can't paint then get a buddy too that's what I do.

Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike

I got them all. While I dont like repaints, I got Paralon because I just wanted to try out that mold and this one came out first. Plus that head is amazing, gorgeous paint apps on it. He has great paint and colour all around with a nice mix of plastic colours. I will be reviewing them all tonight

For now, here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box. This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this was indeed the first planned release of this mold.

Huh, interesting. I may be making my run tonight so we'll see if US TRU has this guy

I was able to purchase the three Toysrus Exclusive Clash of the Transformers 2016 figures from the Robots in Diguise Line. Pictures with comparisons to others toys, along with a written review of each will be posted later and in the meantime I wanted to point out the box assortment and post some clearer images of the art and official stock images found on the boxes, which also showcase the transformation.

Here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box (with two Primes and two Paralons). This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this is indeed the first planned release of this mold and the main release of this character in the warrior class.



Below you will find the box bar codes along with the side art. Only Starcream's art is accurate. Optimus is reused with no change in colour (unlike the toy) and Paralon has the wrong head.

Those images are followed by the back of the box of each of them, which showcases Hasbro's 3d rendered stock images which will probably be featured when these figures are officially revealed. You can also see the transformation steps.











While it seems Starscream has the least steps, he actually turns out to be the most complex. We will dive into this more with the upcoming pictorial reviews so stay tuned.

Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.

Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...

They do not. The new warrior Power surge Primes have the truck grill end up on the shoulder pads, so the fists are no longer blocked by kibble. no fan mod needed here

Cobotron wrote:Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.

They arent

I will be showing comparison pics tonight. For now, just look at the shoulders, you will see how far they extend which means there is a smaller panel on the forearms.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...

Well for Starscream, the stock photos are pretty accurate. he doesnt look better than that in hand. The vehicle actually looks a bit worse in hand, this angle is very misleading.

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...

Well for Starscream, the stock photos are pretty accurate. he doesnt look better than that in hand. The vehicle actually looks a bit worse in hand, this angle is very misleading.

Oh...my bad. Must've been misremembering the in-hand pictures from a few days ago...

Sadly, of the three toys, Starscream is the most frustrating, but he has his Pros! Working on written reviews now.

william-james88 wrote:Sadly, of the three toys, Starscream is the most frustrating, but he has his Pros! Working on written reviews now.

That's unfortunate, when we first saw the initial photos I really liked him, but as better in hand photos were shown he kind of became just an alright looking figure to me. I'd have to get the figure on sale to pick it up. I could definitely go for a different headsculpt though. I look forward to your reviews!