Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting

Wednesday, July 13th, 2016 5:18PM CDT

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Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Down_Shift, an entire wave of Transformers: Robots in Disguise toys - found by Cybertron.ca Xtreme987 user in a Toys'R'Us store in Ontario - we knew absolutely nothing about before have surfaced! This menagerie includes Deluxe Power Surge Optimus Prime in a deco that resembles Ultra Magnus in vehicle mode; a purple repaint of Scorponok called Paralon; and most surprisingly of all, an entirely new mold Starscream based very much on his G1 incarnation. All 3 are packaged in the "Clash of the Transformers" subline of packaging that has been previously exclusive to Toys R Us stores. Check out the image below and tell us what you think in the forums by clicking here.

Transformers News: Transformers Robots in Disguise Deluxes Power Surge Optimus, Paralon, Starscream Sighted in Canada

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Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805296)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:30pm CDT

Paralon we got a look at before with his BW Scorponok-esque head, but that Starscream WOW! His Vehicle Mode wings appear to be forward-swung like the Animated and WFC/FOC Starscream designs. The shoulders also kinda remind me of the coronation shoulder pads G1 Screamer wore in the 1986 movie.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805297)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:35pm CDT

I can't quite make out the logo, but unless I'm mistaken, they're part of the "Clash of the Transformers" subline. Either that, or a new TRU-exclusive line.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805298)
Posted by Grahf_ on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:35pm CDT

A new deluxe Starscream that's mostly in actual Starscream colors? Yes please! Paralon looks cool but I would've liked to have seen a color other than purple on it. Or at least another color mixed in that doesn't necessarily have to be green but green would've worked too obviously. Optimus looks ok too but I would've rather have had Ultra Magnus shades of red and blue in there instead of Optimus Prime shades to go with that white. Is there even a difference in the reds between the two? If not then there should be.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805302)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:42pm CDT

Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805305)
Posted by Va'al on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:47pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I can't quite make out the logo, but unless I'm mistaken, they're part of the "Clash of the Transformers" subline. Either that, or a new TRU-exclusive line.

They are, we missed that out in the article. Sorry!

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805306)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:52pm CDT

Holy crap, I'm gonna need that Starscream! :shock:

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805307)
Posted by Seibertron on July 13th, 2016 @ 5:54pm CDT

Dr Va'al wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I can't quite make out the logo, but unless I'm mistaken, they're part of the "Clash of the Transformers" subline. Either that, or a new TRU-exclusive line.

They are, we missed that out in the article. Sorry!

Fixed.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805311)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:09pm CDT

Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. :PRAY:

(I'm referring to Starscream btw)

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805315)
Posted by Microraptor on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:21pm CDT

Screamer does look pretty good, though his proportions kinda remind me of Fracture's.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805317)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:24pm CDT

Microraptor wrote:Screamer does look pretty good, though his proportions kinda remind me of Fracture's.

Maybe they're the same body type but with different Alt modes.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805320)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:46pm CDT

TFW has (somewhat) better pics, which seems to show they actually bothered to make Starscream's crest red this time around.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805321)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:47pm CDT

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. Please tell me he'll be in RiD. (I'm referring to Starscream btw)

I very highly doubt they'd make an entirely new mold in an entirely new design for a pre-existing major character in the continuity without intending to use them. At the very least we might have assumed Ratchet might not have been in RiD despite his toy because it's just a remold and hey, it's a nice nod to TFP fans; but this? Naw. No way Screamer gets this much treatment and doesn't get to be in the show. Especially when there's a villain vacancy to be filled up as of Season 2's ending... and the whole corrupt Cybertron council rejecting autobots thing seems to echo Screamer's role in IDW.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805322)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:51pm CDT

Noideaforaname wrote:TFW has (somewhat) better pics, which seems to show they actually bothered to make Starscream's crest red this time around.

So to sum up...
-G1 Starscream body in general
-Animated Starscream alt-mode
-1986 Movie Coronation shoulders
-TFP Starscream head

How many more references could you possibly put in? At this point they'd have to give him cyber key powers, a birdface and the ability to combine with G2 Dreadwing if they wanted to reference more screamers.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805324)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on July 13th, 2016 @ 6:58pm CDT

Countdown to Seeker repaints in T-minus 3...2...

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805326)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:03pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:TFW has (somewhat) better pics, which seems to show they actually bothered to make Starscream's crest red this time around.

So to sum up...
-G1 Starscream body in general
-Animated Starscream alt-mode
-1986 Movie Coronation shoulders
-TFP Starscream head

How many more references could you possibly put in? At this point they'd have to give him cyber key powers, a birdface and the ability to combine with G2 Dreadwing if they wanted to reference more screamers.

Why not make him intangible (Energon), make him a giant (Cybertron/Galaxyforce), give him wheels (Alternity), and give him mini-con pegs? And make him a Pretender? And um.. oh make him an Action Master. And uh... what else am I missing?

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805328)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:08pm CDT

Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:TFW has (somewhat) better pics, which seems to show they actually bothered to make Starscream's crest red this time around.

So to sum up...
-G1 Starscream body in general
-Animated Starscream alt-mode
-1986 Movie Coronation shoulders
-TFP Starscream head

How many more references could you possibly put in? At this point they'd have to give him cyber key powers, a birdface and the ability to combine with G2 Dreadwing if they wanted to reference more screamers.

Why not make him intangible (Energon), make him a giant (Cybertron/Galaxyforce), give him wheels (Alternity), and give him mini-con pegs? And make him a Pretender? And um.. oh make him an Action Master. And uh... what else am I missing?

Make him pregnant:

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805329)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:10pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:TFW has (somewhat) better pics, which seems to show they actually bothered to make Starscream's crest red this time around.

So to sum up...
-G1 Starscream body in general
-Animated Starscream alt-mode
-1986 Movie Coronation shoulders
-TFP Starscream head

How many more references could you possibly put in? At this point they'd have to give him cyber key powers, a birdface and the ability to combine with G2 Dreadwing if they wanted to reference more screamers.

Why not make him intangible (Energon), make him a giant (Cybertron/Galaxyforce), give him wheels (Alternity), and give him mini-con pegs? And make him a Pretender? And um.. oh make him an Action Master. And uh... what else am I missing?
Make him pregnant:

Oh Primus that is funny. Oh! Make his Decepticon symbols red!

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805338)
Posted by ScottyP on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:37pm CDT

Wow, finding those must have been like a return to the pre-internet days! Helps that Starscream looks really cool too.

I've got to wonder who's really supervising the RiD product line these days. The toys and show (app too, unless I missed an update that Starscream isn't in it) are almost entirely off-the-rails out of sync at this point.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805340)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:49pm CDT

given screamers design there, and the way the last season of R.I.D. ended, makes me wonder if they are going to try and parallel the comics/combiner was toon. i.e.: starscream survived an obvious beatdown from predaking and has now taken over cybertron somehow.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805341)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 7:53pm CDT

What's funny to me about that is that this weirdly seems to be a thing now. Like, at first it was IDW having a fresh new idea and taking Starscream's vies for leadership to the absolute fore - and now not only the machinima, but the main animated series is doing it. Makes me wonder if it'll start to define him as a multiversal character and concept as much as betraying Megatron has.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805346)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 13th, 2016 @ 8:16pm CDT

What cracks me up is these came out before the original versions of the molds.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805347)
Posted by Autobot N on July 13th, 2016 @ 8:19pm CDT

Starscream? Since when was this a thing?

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805360)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:02pm CDT

This is the Starscream I have been needing!

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805362)
Posted by shajaki on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:13pm CDT

Nic'd some pics. Slightly more clear.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805363)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:16pm CDT

Looks like the arms stow away under the wings in jet mode...

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805364)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:19pm CDT

Thanks Shajaki!

I really hope this mold gets repainted into Acid-storm, and Sun-storm. Those characters need more love.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805367)
Posted by Autobot N on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:22pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:Sun-storm

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805368)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:24pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:Thanks Shajaki!

I really hope this mold gets repainted into Acid-storm, and Sun-storm. Those characters need more love.

Acid Storm's gotten an insane amount of love; getting a Legends, a Classics redeco and a Masterpiece in the past 5 or so years - none of those being outside the mainline.
Now Sunstorm? Sunstorm would be nice considering his only toys are either a Masterpiece or exclusives.

It's also nice to see Starscream comes with two short null-rays. I hope I'll be able to make those somehow compatible with Gen Armadascream.

Also, that's a pretty nice head on Paralon there. ... about as much as I can say.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805369)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:31pm CDT

ScottyP wrote:Wow, finding those must have been like a return to the pre-internet days! Helps that Starscream looks really cool too.

I've got to wonder who's really supervising the RiD product line these days. The toys and show (app too, unless I missed an update that Starscream isn't in it) are almost entirely off-the-rails out of sync at this point.

Its because its toysrus exclusives. This has been very common the past few years. Look at MP Bumblebee, he was found in stores before being actually revealed by hasbro. And same for last year's wave of Clash of the Transformers with that first Megatronus toy (whose legion toy turns out to still be exclusive to toysrus). If anything, its more common than uncommon with TRU toys, at least since I have been collecting (which isnt long).

Autobot N wrote:Starscream? Since when was this a thing?

Since today

Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805370)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:33pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Sun-storm

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805374)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:41pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805376)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:44pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?

If there even is a normal retail version.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805377)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:45pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?

Yes although I dont think there will be a normal retail version. The Cash of Transformers have had exclusive molds in the past. This is the first deluxe, sure, but I went in depth about their exclusive retools for the 3 step ones, the legion emgatronus was never released wide and neither was the big megatronus toy either. I am thinking this will stay as a TRU exclusive. Plus this wouldnt be the fisrt time Hasbro releases a Starscream without his repaints. In Prime, only starscream was released by hasbro. No other seeker.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805378)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:47pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?

Yes although I dont think there will be a normal retail version. The Cash of Transformers have had exclusive molds in the past. This is the first deluxe, sure, but I went in depth about their exclusive retools for the 3 step ones, the legion emgatronus was never released wide and neither was the big megatronus toy either. I am thinking this will stay as a TRU exclusive.

Perhaps, but... it is a seeker mold. Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805382)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:51pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?

Yes although I dont think there will be a normal retail version. The Cash of Transformers have had exclusive molds in the past. This is the first deluxe, sure, but I went in depth about their exclusive retools for the 3 step ones, the legion emgatronus was never released wide and neither was the big megatronus toy either. I am thinking this will stay as a TRU exclusive.

Perhaps, but... it is a seeker mold. Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

Umm...

william-james88 wrote:Yes although I dont think there will be a normal retail version. The Cash of Transformers have had exclusive molds in the past. This is the first deluxe, sure, but I went in depth about their exclusive retools for the 3 step ones, the legion emgatronus was never released wide and neither was the big megatronus toy either. I am thinking this will stay as a TRU exclusive. Plus this wouldnt be the fisrt time Hasbro releases a Starscream without his repaints. In Prime, only starscream was released by hasbro. No other seeker.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805383)
Posted by shajaki on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:51pm CDT

I'm really REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY excited about this.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805384)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also, is it just me, or does Starscream look to actually have good paint apps?
Considering the paint apps in this line have been a bit... ah... crap; he looks really standout from what I can see. I mean okay yeah, this is a blurry image and maybe it'll be a horror story once I actually see it, but right now he looks beautiful.

The Clash of the Transformers figures usually have good paint apps. They had a ton last year compared the the normal deluxes.

Oh cool.
... so I should probably expect a normal retail version or repaint (like skywarp or thundercracker) to go the way of Windblade?
If there even is a normal retail version.

I think he's this wave's Megatronus: a possible normal retail version will have a slightly different deco, and a slight tweak in the head (battle mask, or smirk!).

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805385)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

So then did Hasbro break the law by not releasing a thundercracker and Skywarp in Prime? Nothing is set in stone. And in show continuity, Thundercracker and Skywarp do not exist, the only other seekers are Skyquake and Dreadwing.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805386)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:55pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

So then did Hasbro break the law by not releasing a thundercracker and Skywarp in Prime? Nothing is set in stone. And in show continuity, Thundercracker and Skywarp do not exist, the only other seekers are Skyquake and Dreadwing.

I apologize.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805387)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2016 @ 9:56pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

So then did Hasbro break the law by not releasing a thundercracker and Skywarp in Prime? Nothing is set in stone. And in show continuity, Thundercracker and Skywarp do not exist, the only other seekers are Skyquake and Dreadwing.

The closest Hasbro got was that Skywarp homage in the Dark Energon series. If anything, TakaraTomy is the one pumping out those redecos, as they did with the Arms Micron series (and they released a Skywarp for Dark of the Moon, which Hasbro skipped!).

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805388)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CDT

I just noticed something... I really hope the arms don't actually have to fold under the wings like this.

That is pretty bad underkibble.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805389)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

So then did Hasbro break the law by not releasing a thundercracker and Skywarp in Prime? Nothing is set in stone. And in show continuity, Thundercracker and Skywarp do not exist, the only other seekers are Skyquake and Dreadwing.

The closest Hasbro got was that Skywarp homage in the Dark Energon series. If anything, TakaraTomy is the one pumping out those redecos, as they did with the Arms Micron series (and they released a Skywarp for Dark of the Moon, which Hasbro skipped!).

And even then, those arms micron releases were not wide releases, they were exclusive to Yodobashi Camera, Yamada Electronics and EIDON group stores.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805390)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:02pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Perhaps, but... it is a seeker mold. Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it

Tell that to the Energon, Cybertron, Movie Protoform, ROTF Legends, ROTF Voyager, 2010 Leader, DOTM Cyberverse Legion, Prime Cyberverse Commander, Prime BH Cyberverse Commander, Prime RID Voyager, Prime Beast Hunters, and Cyber Battalion Starscream molds.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805391)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:02pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:I just noticed something... I really hope the arms don't actually have to fold under the wings like this.

That is pretty bad underkibble.

I noticed it and I am pretty sure thats how it will be. This RID line has shown that it has a hard time merging that aesthetic with jets, as seen by windblade who has a bad case of kibble in both modes.At least Starscream's robot mode is fine since his nosecone is incorporated into his robot mode.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805392)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:05pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:Perhaps, but... it is a seeker mold. Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it
Tell that to the Energon, Cybertron, Movie Protoform, ROTF Legends, ROTF Voyager, 2010 Leader, DOTM Cyberverse Legion, Prime Cyberverse Commander, Prime BH Cyberverse Commander, Prime RID Voyager, Prime Beast Hunters, and Cyber Battalion Starscream molds.

That Cybertron mention is fun though because that line did get the other seekers... but using a different mold :lol:

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805393)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:06pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Practically by law they have to make a Thundercracker, Skywarp and at least one more redeco out of it and I doubt they'd all stay TRU exclusive. Megatronus is a unique character and whose mold I can't see applying to anyone else, at least in the context of the continuity.

So then did Hasbro break the law by not releasing a thundercracker and Skywarp in Prime? Nothing is set in stone. And in show continuity, Thundercracker and Skywarp do not exist, the only other seekers are Skyquake and Dreadwing.

They broke every possible law. As soon as the line ended with nary a seeker repaint on Hasbro's side I grabbed by pitchfork and torch on a march to Hasbro Europe. It was a glorious night.

But yeah like, I see where you're coming from; but there's a few reasons I think it'd happen here. First being that RiD likes it's repaints a lot more than TFP. Outside of some exclusives like the Dark Energon series, the only mold re-usage I can recall in TFP was Skyquake and some heavy retools for Beast Hunters. Meanwhile, RiD sees fit to release Optimus and Drift three times because they got desert and winter camo...
The second, and I know this seems a little bit arbitrary, but that mold... only really fit Starscream. And despite the common traits of silver tongues and treachery, this felt like a very different Starscream to what we usually got in terms of his personality and body language - and the body itself. Every other seeker mold before and after - barring obvious exceptions like Alternity - has followed the same general look of G1. Cockpit chest, null rays, wing backpack and a body shape that had some solid bulk to it but still managed to pull off athleticism. TFP Starscream... didn't feel like that. Which is good, because I'm always up for something different; but you couldn't really eek seekers out of it like with the Animated or FOC molds. Takara did it, and it just... it just doesn't feel right. Animated Sunstorm works, Generations Skywarp works... Arms Micron Thundercracker just feels very off. It's a mold meant for Starscream, and it definitely doesn't work outside of Starscream - it's not meant to be a seeker imo.
Thirdly...
... I'm sure I had a third. I know I did. I'll get back to you, I'm just dumb.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805394)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:10pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I just noticed something... I really hope the arms don't actually have to fold under the wings like this.

That is pretty bad underkibble.

I noticed it and I am pretty sure thats how it will be. This RID line has shown that it has a hard time merging that aesthetic with jets, as seen by windblade who has a bad case of kibble in both modes.At least Starscream's robot mode is fine since his nosecone is incorporated into his robot mode.

Are you sure? It looks like his chest is a fake nosecone.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805396)
Posted by Kurona on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:12pm CDT

Yeah, no way that's the vehicle mode nosecone. Starscream's taking hints from his CW Leader counterpart.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805397)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:13pm CDT

I think this mold will get at least a Skywarp and Thundercracker. I don't question it. I mostly am hoping though that we get an orange Sun-storm, and an Acid-storm with green eyes.

Re: Warrior Class Starscream, Power Surge Optimus, and Paralon from Robots in Disguise Clash of the Transformers sighting (1805399)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2016 @ 10:15pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:Are you sure? It looks like his chest is a fake nosecone.

Of course it is, silly me. I hope that means he doesnt have terrible back kibble. I will see if I can pick him up tomorrow and report back with some pics. And if anyone cares, the SKU is 823651

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