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Sabrblade wrote:

Big Grim wrote:And Twinferno's Titan Master has a kitty face with an eyepatch. I find that to be all kinds of awesome!

He's based on White Leo.

That's frickin' awesome!

I've been waiting for the renders to comment and I'm glad I did because they totally sold me on Black Shadow. The static pose they had him in on display made him look really chunky. Broadside looks great, the tiny aerial bots are a really cool touch but I'm not a fan of the really dark grey they used on him so I guess I'll wait and see what Takara does. Shuffler and Repugnus are my favorites of the bunch, they're so damn adorable. Still waiting on Takara for Sixshot. I like the look of him but something just seems off.

I'm really sick of them splitting up the waves in these reveals though. To me it doesn't feel like we're really getting anything. I mean the only new things that we saw were two titan masters, brawn, broadside and black shadow. Everything else we saw at the last reveal from the back of the other figures packaging.

black shadow has two vehicles. What???????

his base mode is much better

Triggerhappy is looking good. I dig the alt-mode, and the robot mode looks like a much better put together Highbrow.

Black Shadow looks too...Puffy, especially compared to the Generations one I have. So Im happy to stick with that one and wait for Overlord.

The more I see of Sixshot, the less I like him. His proportions seem so wonky and he looks too much like 80s toy vs a toy homaging a toy from the 80s.

SureShot18 wrote:Williamjames88, he actually has had an official tank mode.:

Would you mind showing me his official tank mode, because I think you are referring to his mobile laboratory mode, which is what the image you placed also shows. His actual tank mode was only part of the microchange line and looks like the pic below, not the one in the official image:



This is a mobile laboratory, not a tank mode.





Unless people mean mobiel laboratory when they mention "tank mode". But then, what do you call his actual tank mode?

EDIT: Sorry sureshot, I realize you included a pic in your post but I cant see it for some reason, it appears broken.

I love him.


Anyone else getting a little worried that for Sky Shadow there's only a render of one Titan Master, and in the interaction renders it only shows one Titan Master?

those look cool

Bumblebee21 wrote:black shadow has two vehicles. What???????

his base mode is much better

He's based on Overlord - a jet and a tank that combine into one robot, much like the Duocons.

Kurona wrote:


I love him.


Anyone else getting a little worried that for Sky Shadow there's only a render of one Titan Master, and in the interaction renders it only shows one Titan Master?

that deadly but kawaii one eyed monsterkitty cat!

Kurona wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:black shadow has two vehicles. What???????

his base mode is much better

He's based on Overlord - a jet and a tank that combine into one robot, much like the Duocons.

that is sooo epic

Brawn still looks good.

Broadside's jet mode is just pfffttthahahaahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. Assaulter for me.

Perceptor I'll probably be transforming into mobile lab/laser cannon mode the most. The lack of a decent Headmaster cockpit in microscope mode kinda kills it. Still looks good though and I like that he seems to have an actual working scope on his shoulder.

Doublecross looks decent. The arm setup isn't great but the Headmaster looks cool.

Black Shadow (and by extension Overlord) has ankle tilts! Yay!

Getaway is boring but the engine detail on the Headmaster is a nice touch.

Triggerhappy looks cool, I'm digging the jet mode especially.

nycPrime wrote:I'm curious how well this line will sell. While we're the minority on this forum, I'm guessing more people than not outside of this forum don't really know who these characters are, which may make them pass.

Think of it this way NYC, did kids know who these characters were back in 86? There were a ton of toys that werent even on the show and they still sold. Kids just want cool toys and that is what Hasbro is banking on here. The brand is big enough to be sold on its name alone, to both parents and kids, so they dont need people to know the characters to buy them. The line sells quite well so far. However, I will admit that the toy to sell best so far at the stores I have seen is Leader Optimus. So yes, name recognition does still play a role, but its more of a extra than a must. The truth si that Hasbro wants today's kids to experience G1, and new characters they dont know is part of that

It will all work out

RiddlerJ wrote:They all look great. Every time I say "That's it. I'm done collecting" they go and pull something like this.

steals_your_goats wrote: I mean the only new things that we saw were two titan masters, brawn, broadside and black shadow. Everything else we saw at the last reveal from the back of the other figures packaging.

Where did we previously see Peceptor?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:The more I see of Sixshot, the less I like him. His proportions seem so wonky and he looks too much like 80s toy vs a toy homaging a toy from the 80s.

I am right there with you. Its like the uncanny valley, the closer it looks to an 80s toy, the weirder it gets. I guess this comes to show that fans dont realyl wnt what they say they want (or else 3p companies would be out of business since they rarely give us an 80s toy aesthetic and fans are their primary target).

Kurona wrote:Anyone else getting a little worried that for Sky Shadow there's only a render of one Titan Master, and in the interaction renders it only shows one Titan Master?

I now believe he only comes with 1, which makes his display yesterday super misleading. Although it makes sense he had 2 totan masters on display since there were 3 of him there.

But hey, thats why Titan Masters are also sold individually.

Black Hat wrote:Broadside's jet mode is just pfffttthahahaahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
Getaway is boring but the engine detail on the Headmaster is a nice touch.
Triggerhappy looks cool, I'm digging the jet mode especially.

I like all the points you bring up. Its like our opinions are in synch (same like when I first met Kurona here). Yeah, the jet mode is bad, and I wonder if its better or worse than G1 which was absoultely terrible:

Transformers G1 1986 Broadside Gallery

I like what they do with the cockpit though and its the back of it that we see on his robot chest. It looks better than the original toy.
And hey, Alpha Trion has 2 subpar alt modes, at least this gy only has 1 with a really good other one.

I also felt the same about Getaway. When I saw that deail on his crest, I started wanting him (dont know if that feeling will stay). And I love Triggerhappy's jet mode. They found a way tohave everything there without it looking too busy or clunky.

Also Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Looks like Broadside is just an A3 heavy retool + where's his jet mode?

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Perceptor....umm...ok...but...where's his tank alt mode?

Overlord...his base mode just looks like a fan mode

loving Kickback

I get the feeling they're saving his jet mode for another time, but if he does indeed have it, I think this figure may be the most extensive and insane retool ever. Also, Perceptor seem to have some tank tread molding, so I'm sure if he doesn't have one, there's bound to be a good fanmode.

Braker wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Looks like Broadside is just an A3 heavy retool + where's his jet mode?

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Perceptor....umm...ok...but...where's his tank alt mode?

Overlord...his base mode just looks like a fan mode

loving Kickback

I get the feeling they're saving his jet mode for another time, but if he does indeed have it, I think this figure may be the most extensive and insane retool ever. Also, Perceptor seem to have some tank tread molding, so I'm sure if he doesn't have one, there's bound to be a good fanmode.

It's been revealed through the renders.



It's not really a retool. It's more on the shared engineering/parts-sharing level of Scourge and Highbrow.

william-james88 wrote:

nycPrime wrote:I'm curious how well this line will sell. While we're the minority on this forum, I'm guessing more people than not outside of this forum don't really know who these characters are, which may make them pass.

Think of it this way NYC, did kids know who these characters were back in 86? There were a ton of toys that werent even on the show and they still sold. Kids just want cool toys and that is what Hasbro is banking on here. The brand is big enough to be sold on its name alone, to both parents and kids, so they dont need people to know the characters to buy them. The line sells quite well so far. However, I will admit that the toy to sell best so far at the stores I have seen is Leader Optimus. So yes, name recognition does still play a role, but its more of a extra than a must. The truth si that Hasbro wants today's kids to experience G1, and new characters they dont know is part of that

It will all work out

Yup. Plus, with this particular assortment there's a lot of 'rule of cool' going on. Twinferno turns into a 2-headed dragon while his head becomes an eyepatch-wearing lion: AWESOME! Broadside is an aircraft carrier that comes with tiny little micro Aerialbots: COOL! Blackshadow splits into two military vehicles: GIMMIE! Perceptor turns into a functional microscope: YAY! Shuffler is an elephant: AAAAAAAHHH!!


I mean, Soundwave is mega-popular and yet he basically just keeps little dudes in his chest and has a cool voice. "Loyal to Megatron" doesn't factor into why most people like him.

Why does this line have to be so good? These all look amazing! I even think Broadside's jet mode is charming in its own ugly way.

william-james88 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:Williamjames88, he actually has had an official tank mode.:

Would you mind showing me his official tank mode, because I think you are referring to his mobile laboratory mode, which is what the image you placed also shows. His actual tank mode was only part of the microchange line and looks like the pic below, not the one in the official image:



This is a mobile laboratory, not a tank mode.





Unless people mean mobiel laboratory when they mention "tank mode". But then, what do you call his actual tank mode?

EDIT: Sorry sureshot, I realize you included a pic in your post but I cant see it for some reason, it appears broken.

The picture on the packaging of the Universe reissue is of the mobile laboratory but it labels it as a tank mode so technically it is also a tank mode. Sabrblade also gave another picture Seibertron's galleries that better show what I am talking about. Also the picture worked fine for me.

william-james88 wrote:

nycPrime wrote:I'm curious how well this line will sell. While we're the minority on this forum, I'm guessing more people than not outside of this forum don't really know who these characters are, which may make them pass.

Think of it this way NYC, did kids know who these characters were back in 86? There were a ton of toys that werent even on the show and they still sold. Kids just want cool toys and that is what Hasbro is banking on here. The brand is big enough to be sold on its name alone, to both parents and kids, so they dont need people to know the characters to buy them. The line sells quite well so far. However, I will admit that the toy to sell best so far at the stores I have seen is Leader Optimus. So yes, name recognition does still play a role, but its more of a extra than a must. The truth si that Hasbro wants today's kids to experience G1, and new characters they dont know is part of that

It will all work out

RiddlerJ wrote:They all look great. Every time I say "That's it. I'm done collecting" they go and pull something like this.

steals_your_goats wrote: I mean the only new things that we saw were two titan masters, brawn, broadside and black shadow. Everything else we saw at the last reveal from the back of the other figures packaging.

Where did we previously see Peceptor?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:The more I see of Sixshot, the less I like him. His proportions seem so wonky and he looks too much like 80s toy vs a toy homaging a toy from the 80s.

I am right there with you. Its like the uncanny valley, the closer it looks to an 80s toy, the weirder it gets. I guess this comes to show that fans dont realyl wnt what they say they want (or else 3p companies would be out of business since they rarely give us an 80s toy aesthetic and fans are their primary target).

Kurona wrote:Anyone else getting a little worried that for Sky Shadow there's only a render of one Titan Master, and in the interaction renders it only shows one Titan Master?

I now believe he only comes with 1, which makes his display yesterday super misleading. Although it makes sense he had 2 totan masters on display since there were 3 of him there.

But hey, thats why Titan Masters are also sold individually.

Black Hat wrote:Broadside's jet mode is just pfffttthahahaahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
Getaway is boring but the engine detail on the Headmaster is a nice touch.
Triggerhappy looks cool, I'm digging the jet mode especially.

I like all the points you bring up. Its like our opinions are in synch (same like when I first met Kurona here). Yeah, the jet mode is bad, and I wonder if its better or worse than G1 which was absoultely terrible:

Transformers G1 1986 Broadside Gallery

I like what they do with the cockpit though and its the back of it that we see on his robot chest. It looks better than the original toy.
And hey, Alpha Trion has 2 subpar alt modes, at least this gy only has 1 with a really good other one.

I also felt the same about Getaway. When I saw that deail on his crest, I started wanting him (dont know if that feeling will stay). And I love Triggerhappy's jet mode. They found a way tohave everything there without it looking too busy or clunky.

At least G1 Broadsides wings were bigger! well at least i think they're slightly bigger than this current rendition

also

I forgot to mention Triggerhappy....aye he looks amazing i'll strongly consider getting him

SureShot18 wrote:The picture on the packaging of the Universe reissue is of the mobile laboratory but it labels it as a tank mode so technically it is also a tank mode. Sabrblade also gave another picture Seibertron's galleries that better show what I am talking about. Also the picture worked fine for me.

Its probably because of a filter at work (dont tell them I am here, shh). And ok, thanks, I see how Hasbro changed the name of that mode. I do hope this new figure lets you pull off the actual tank mode though. And sureshot, do you have the G1 version? becasue if so, I highly recomend you try that actualy tank mode since by having all 4 limbs paralel, the back wheel touhes the floor adn you have a really awesome tank that rolls super well. If that was his actual third mode, I wold easily have claimed perceptor to be one of the best tripel changers of all time.

the renders are looking cheaper of late - in a way more realistic to the actual toy, less lighting effects etc. broadside looks lighter than the photos and hope that will be the case..

the plane mode isn't awful though he does suffer from stubby wing syndrome, optimus prime and octane will suffer too...

alpha trion, tho suffered a bit in his alt modes, his transformation was intuitive and fun, so i have high hopes for broadside..

RiddlerJ wrote:They all look great. Every time I say "That's it. I'm done collecting" they go and pull something like this.

So I started last year and I told my wife that I just want 1 of every character I grew up watching. I also told my wife I'm almost done. Now I don't know what to tell her lol.

Just wanted to take a step back from NYCC and throw out there that TR Blaster can be had on Amazon for under $38 all in (if you have Prime for free shipping). The price has been dropping since this morning, and has settled in at the current price for the last few hours.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WO0AXQ0/re ... ds=blaster

Lovin all the reveals but i was really hoping for a deluxe class Repugnus. I'm a bit bummed about that. I guess i'll have to wait for a 3rd party to make the figure i want. Unfortunately.