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[crash8burnt]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

[Qwan]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Many fans also grew up outside the G1 era and are alright with getting something a little different. The Bumblebee movie's mission statement was never "let's make a G1 movie". It was always intended to be a different spin on the live-action movies, with a couple hits of G1 in the designs to give those old fans a bit of nostalgic fun. But, give a mouse a cookie...

It's hardly the demise of the entire Transformers franchise if this one movie has a character named Blitzwing instead of Starscream. Heck even if the movie tanks somehow because of that (but really?), this franchise has been doing different stuff since the 90's. A single name change is hardly enough to bring that variety-driven, ever-changing juggernaut of a franchise crashing down around us.

[ZeroWolf]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Many fans also grew up outside the G1 era and are alright with getting something a little different. The Bumblebee movie's mission statement was never "let's make a G1 movie". It was always intended to be a different spin on the live-action movies, with a couple hits of G1 in the designs to give those old fans a bit of nostalgic fun. But, give a mouse a cookie...

It's hardly the demise of the entire Transformers franchise if this one movie has a character named Blitzwing instead of Starscream. Heck even if the movie tanks somehow because of that (but really?), this franchise has been doing different stuff since the 90's. A single name change is hardly enough to bring that variety-driven, ever-changing juggernaut of a franchise crashing down around us.

This^ there's also the fact that this is also supposed to be a prequel to the bay movies so while having ss in it fits, we know the result of any fight would be that both survive...so Sam can kill starscream later.

If the writers wanted blitzwing then let them use him, makes no difference. We hyped ourselves up, it's not their fault.

Plus as deadput has pointed out, spoilers for the film show that there is another good reason for it not to be screamer...

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie.

Good news!

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[Sabrblade]

Yeah, there already was a G1 movie. No live action film will ever amount to being as much or more G1 a movie than the film that was already released in 1986.

[Sunstar]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie.

Good news!

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I also don't like that movie.

Part of the big deal is seeing a G1 Character what he could potentially look like in real life. Bay Starscream is Starscream but a different dude. Kinda like how we have three Matts at work. Each one is different.

[Va'al]

If you were waiting for the officially official news from Paramount about the Transformers Bumblebee Movie events taking place at San Diego Comic Con 2018 on the Friday - from Hall H to guest signings and red carpet opportunities - and now we have them, directly from the source!

Check out below a look at the cast and crew, including director Travis Knight, stars Hailee Steinfeld, Jorge Lendeborg Jr, John C0ena, and special guest appearance of Optimus Prime's voice himself, Peter Cullen, and screenwriter Christina Hodson at the red carpet event. Check out our video and panel report here, and stay tuned for our very own footage and coverage of the Red Carpet event too, coming soon here on Seibertron.com!

In Theatres December 21st, 2018



SYNOPSIS

On the run in the year 1987, Bumblebee finds refuge in a junkyard in a small Californian beach town. Charlie (Hailee Steinfeld), on the cusp of turning 18 and trying to find her place in the world, discovers Bumblebee, battle-scarred and broken. When Charlie revives him, she quickly learns this is no ordinary, yellow VW bug.



DIRECTED BY

Travis Knight



PRODUCED BY

Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Tom DeSanto & Don Murphy, Michael Bay



EXECUTIVE PRODUCED BY

Steven Spielberg, Brian Goldner, Mark Vahradian, Chris Brigham



STARRING

Hailee Steinfeld, John Cena, Jorge Lendeborg Jr., John Ortiz, Jason Drucker, Pamela Adlon, Stephen Schneider

#BumblebeeMovie

www.BumblebeeMovie.com

[Deadput]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

[Sunstar]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

I didn't ask for it to be G1. I just wanted Starscream to be part of this. and that jet looks 100% like Starscream. I'll wait for the DVD release as I have the last two movies - unless things change at a later time that piques my interest in the bumblebee movie again.

[ZeroWolf]

You wanted him to be Starscream even given the rumoured fate?

[partholon]

im baffled at the blitzwing decision considering Ramjet is RIGHT there looking the part to a tee as much as starscream does.

TBH im thinking theyre trolling us.

[ZeroWolf]

This could be a similar situation to devestator/brawl in the first movie. I mean looks aside, which sounds better? Ramjet or blitzwing.

[Deadput]

This could be a similar situation to devestator/brawl in the first movie. I mean looks aside, which sounds better? Ramjet or blitzwing.

im baffled at the blitzwing decision considering Ramjet is RIGHT there looking the part to a tee as much as starscream does.

TBH im thinking theyre trolling us.

Or it's just another nameslap because that's how the franchise operates?

Who cares if it's Starscream if he (possible fate from people who saw early screenings) dies in the movie?

[ZeroWolf]

I'm just offering alternate theories I mean if that hidden information is correct then they could have just called him droney mc'drone face...though that wouldnt sell many toys

[dragons]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

This guy gets it I have been saying it for years when people complain bots don’t big blocky and ironhide isn’t van, I have been sayin it different way for years people don’t most movie designs but they prime as firtruck, and ironhide as hummer with radar dish for head in transformer energon no one complained, same with megatron as jet in that series,. Shockwave and grimlock never ever had mouth in cartoons not all bots need have human faces they are aliens from another planet not from earth

[shajaki]

So the girl, Hailee, I had no idea was the same girl from True Grit.
She was phenomenal in that. Now I'm even more invested in this.

[Sunstar]

You wanted him to be Starscream even given the rumoured fate?

To be frank, Starscream always dies so its no skin off my back in that regard - I don't like it, but I am used to it.

I just saw a great marriage of two concepts - which got me excited. Finally the intricate realism of a live action transformer, with aspects drawn from the cartoon. face, colouration, wings, and maybe two sticky-uppy things (or not) at the shoulder. (I can't tell in the original trailer if those are there) but there were wing-stripes, the colours, the face - its Starscream. There is enough there for me to recognise him. with exception to machine wars and BW2, most series have maintained some character qualities to the Character. This was the first time the Movies had a character that had recognisable characteristics - and I am being told its not him.

That character was always the Starscream I had hoped we'd get.

If they are purposefully trolling the potential viewers, then I am not impressed. I'll wait and see. If its screamer I will try to see it in theater. if its not, I will pick it up when ever it gets released.

[Prowl4]

People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

[Va'al]

People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

So glad to have you join the discussion as always.

[Qwan]

People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

So glad to have you join the discussion as always.

What do you mean? Surely it's a horrid affront to have characters be... given names in the film! Especially, especially, a name as serious and extraterrestrial as Bumblebee! You mean to tell me a human is more likely to come up with that name for a small yellow robot than an alien lifeform who's never even known about Earth up to this point?! Puh-lease.

[Burn]

stuff

Your sig, it's too big. Go read the rules and fix it.

Otherwise I fix it.

People get uppity when I fix things of theirs ...

[ZeroWolf]

You wanted him to be Starscream even given the rumoured fate?

To be frank, Starscream always dies so its no skin off my back in that regard - I don't like it, but I am used to it.

I just saw a great marriage of two concepts - which got me excited. Finally the intricate realism of a live action transformer, with aspects drawn from the cartoon. face, colouration, wings, and maybe two sticky-uppy things (or not) at the shoulder. (I can't tell in the original trailer if those are there) but there were wing-stripes, the colours, the face - its Starscream. There is enough there for me to recognise him. with exception to machine wars and BW2, most series have maintained some character qualities to the Character. This was the first time the Movies had a character that had recognisable characteristics - and I am being told its not him.

That character was always the Starscream I had hoped we'd get.

If they are purposefully trolling the potential viewers, then I am not impressed. I'll wait and see. If its screamer I will try to see it in theater. if its not, I will pick it up when ever it gets released.

Thanks for the reply I do think that there was no intentional trolling going on, it could easily be that they liked the design but knew that screamer couldn't die at that point in the timeline so went the seeker route and slapped a impressive sounding name on it.

[crash8burnt]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

I didn't ask for it to be G1. I just wanted Starscream to be part of this. and that jet looks 100% like Starscream. I'll wait for the DVD release as I have the last two movies - unless things change at a later time that piques my interest in the bumblebee movie again.

That’s right, u hit the nail! Let me rephrase my points-

- The jet has got a very G1 modernised Starscream look. So Knight should go with SS, not Blitzwing.

- All successful franchise films start with a cast with strong characters, not weak ones. In Transformers, strong character bots like Optimus Prime against Megatron , and Bumblebee against Starscream, will make it a hit among fans. After which, then u introduce other fringe characters to expand the story line. BB against Blitzwing or Dropkick or Shatter will not make the cut. These guys are sidekicks.

- A KNIGHT will not have the integrity to bash up a lady. Shatter..who? Seriously? Would u want to see a hero like Bee bashing up a girl? C’mon, give us a good healthy start of having Bee against 3 recognisable cons. Bring in the ladies in the next episode.. but not Shatter..who? A female bot (Arcee?) against a female con (Nightbird?). Don’t further mess up a fantasy world when our real world is already very messed up.

I am not asking for a G1 storyline, just presentable looking bots that resemble their G1 counterparts. Enough of Bee looking like a ‘granny sucking pacifier’ and insect-fested ugly looking bots. The initial speculations, such as having G1 characters, started really well (like falling in love for the 1st time). A pity it ended in a wrong way (like being dumped). I still believe it can be a good movie with good character development, but a pity Knight has picked the wrong bots which will not leave a deep impression on many of us.

[ZeroWolf]

But if rumours are to be believed (recent reveals are trending that way) then the jet is not long for the world, where as SS is killed by Sam Whitwicky as seen in dotm. This movie is being billed as a prequel to the Bayverse movies, so having the jet be ss just doesn't work for story reasons.

Also let's just see what happens in the movie. Shatter could be taken out by sector seven at the end.

[Deadput]

- All successful franchise films start with a cast with strong characters, not weak ones. In Transformers, strong character bots like Optimus Prime against Megatron , and Bumblebee against Starscream, will make it a hit among fans. After which, then u introduce other fringe characters to expand the story line. BB against Blitzwing or Dropkick or Shatter will not make the cut. These guys are sidekicks.

Well this franchise isn't even "starting" since even though it's a prequel this is still the 6'th movie regardless, we already got most of the big deal Transformers in the last 5 films. (Only other big character I can think of that hasn't been introduced in the past 5 films is Ultra Magnus, anyone else isn't as recognizable)

I think these guys being "nobodies" is sort of the point, it's Bee by himself he has to fight people at his power level which is even tougher since he is not his power house future self, as it is with 4 Different Decepticons in this film 3 of which are flyers and two of those being triple changers so already I don't see how realistically Bee can fight these guys fair and square without getting crushed.

I'd rather we get a good movie then shove a bunch of characters just for the sake of having specific characters in the movie.

Plus we always need to make up new Decepticons in general because they were always sort of screwed on the numbers front with most of the cast in previous media being just the main leaders like Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave with one or two other guys.

It would be really really dumb if it was Bee VS any of those guys because the only way to make a film where Bee doesn't get crushed is to have the cons be very incompetent in general, characters like Megatron have no business being in a spinoff prequel like this, I don't believe any of the high ranking guys have nothing else better to do then to pay attention to one small Autobot.

- A KNIGHT will not have the integrity to bash up a lady. Shatter..who? Seriously? Would u want to see a hero like Bee bashing up a girl? C’mon, give us a good healthy start of having Bee against 3 recognisable cons. Bring in the ladies in the next episode.. but not Shatter..who? A female bot (Arcee?) against a female con (Nightbird?). Don’t further mess up a fantasy world when our real world is already very messed up.

I mean that hasn't stopped Bay from killing the Arcee triplets and the Pretender chick in ROTF.

Plus I don't think there really has been hesitance in general with male on female (Or vice versa) violence in the franchise, more so due to the fact these are robots and not humans fighting so by default they can get away with a lot more stuff.

And I don't think Shatter's any sort of damsel that needs to be held back against, she's a villain who is hunting Bumblebee and doesn't even look that feminine in general so I don't think there is going to be any holding back against her.

Last thing, why does it need to be a designated fembot vs fembot fight? Wouldn't it be better to have a few characters who so happens to be a female then just to have a couple of token females with the only purpose to fight each other? Because the latter is rather limiting on story telling potential and is also kinda stereotypical, old and bland by now.