Rated X wrote:More spawn of Michael Bay. The last show free of his influence was the animated series. They might as well have just tf prime, I see no difference in aesthetic. Is this CGI or animated ? I hope its animated. Being a big fan of obscure characters, the limits of using CGI never appealed to my tastes.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
There are a lot of layered panels and free-hanging bits on the Bumblebee, where the Animated designs looked more "solid," with things like [Animated Optimus] Prime's wheels looking embedded into or almost sculpted into the sides of his ankles. In Animated, that whole layered jacket of armor would have been one big polygon with Bee's torso; over his whole body, there are lots of little angles and joints in the plates that would have read as flat with a seam in Animated. Look at the complicated outline around the ankles, too - the silhouettes in Animated try to tie things up more than that, lots of convex shapes. The proportions are also more Primey (thicker thighs, bulky arms) and there's more a sense of material properties, shading, and dimension. The only thing that stands out as "superflat" or "2D and loving it" about Bee is his right hand.
Then there's the face, which is, well, "just Prime." Prime inherited Animated's lack of noses, and this style inherits it back. Everything else about that face, down to the crazy eyebrows and the utter lack of anything resembling lips, just reads as a simplified version of the Prime style. The eyes could have followed the Animated look, but they don't - they manage to look like glowing spheres with the little ring, not just a lamp behind a translucent plate.
Anything else they have in common, like the sharp edges and bright colors and the general kind of economy of line they both make use of, is all basically common to American animation for TV in general, particularly actiony shows.
I think there might have been hints taken from Animated, since Prime's own style was influenced by it, as a sort of frog DNA to fill in the gaps in translating the look back into two dimensions, but that's pure Prime.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Balgus82 wrote:Doesn anyone else really hate the way those feet look? They're completely flat and don't gel with the way the rest of the body looks. Looks like someone rolled over his feet with a bulldozer.
They don't look flat to me. You can see a shadow/shading on them to show the depth and dimension of them angling diagonally upward towards the ankles.Balgus82 wrote:Doesn anyone else really hate the way those feet look? They're completely flat and don't gel with the way the rest of the body looks. Looks like someone rolled over his feet with a bulldozer.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Since the last episode and epilogue movie of Prime.Flakmaster wrote:He has a face.
This is the first non-comic incident of this since, what, Animated?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Sabrblade wrote:Since the last episode and epilogue movie of Prime.Flakmaster wrote:He has a face.
This is the first non-comic incident of this since, what, Animated?
Sabrblade wrote:They don't look flat to me. You can see a shadow/shading on them to show the depth and dimension of them angling diagonally upward towards the ankles.Balgus82 wrote:Doesn anyone else really hate the way those feet look? They're completely flat and don't gel with the way the rest of the body looks. Looks like someone rolled over his feet with a bulldozer.
*whispering* Pssst, hey. I just wanted to let you know that that picture is a two-dimensional painting presented on a flat surface. Just like this one is. Good? Good.hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They don't look flat to me. You can see a shadow/shading on them to show the depth and dimension of them angling diagonally upward towards the ankles.Balgus82 wrote:Doesn anyone else really hate the way those feet look? They're completely flat and don't gel with the way the rest of the body looks. Looks like someone rolled over his feet with a bulldozer.
I'm sorry, what?
There is zero depth and dimension in those legs/ feet. The lower half of the image almost looks like it has been warped. They are as flat as hell. I'm sorry but seeing a bit of 'shading' and using your imagination to fill the gap between actual art critique and a skewed vision to stay on the good side of an image is appalling.
Look at this image with an un-biased eye please-those legs are flat. You can like the image all you want, but those legs are badly drawn and show zero perspective or depth.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Beast Machines made some horrible mistakes that Hasbro has wisely not allowed subsequent series to repeat, but excising humanity was not one of them; I too would like to see that tried again. I don't want to bog down this thread with the details Beast Machines' levels of wrongness, just trying to provide some sort of counterpoint to all this leftover knee-jerk Animated hate, since nothing would make me happier than this series magically being a 4th season of Animated.Sabrblade wrote:Beast Machines already happened.OptimusPrimeval wrote:Windsweeper wrote:Rescue Bots suffered from the same problem, to me at least, as Animated. Great Transformers characterisations but childish situations/ human villains.
I would gladly take ten Nanosecs or Mastersons over one Raf! Human villains are much better than human protagonists, and human protagonists are only good when they turn out to be transformers! But it would be nice to have a series with no humans in it.
Sabrblade wrote:*whispering* Pssst, hey. I just wanted to let you know that that picture is a two-dimensional painting presented on a flat surface. Just like this one is. Good? Good.hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They don't look flat to me. You can see a shadow/shading on them to show the depth and dimension of them angling diagonally upward towards the ankles.Balgus82 wrote:Doesn anyone else really hate the way those feet look? They're completely flat and don't gel with the way the rest of the body looks. Looks like someone rolled over his feet with a bulldozer.
I'm sorry, what?
There is zero depth and dimension in those legs/ feet. The lower half of the image almost looks like it has been warped. They are as flat as hell. I'm sorry but seeing a bit of 'shading' and using your imagination to fill the gap between actual art critique and a skewed vision to stay on the good side of an image is appalling.
Look at this image with an un-biased eye please-those legs are flat. You can like the image all you want, but those legs are badly drawn and show zero perspective or depth.
I can see where this pic would be off-putting for some, but it's probably like how some doesn't look that good as stilled imagery and may look a lot better when animated in motion.hinomars19 wrote:Bad artwork may be your thing, but it isn't mine. I do take these things seriously, it's my job to. If I gave this to a customer they'd ask for their money back, or I'd fix whatever problems I had made.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
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