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Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:And yet, despite the lack of anything IDW beyond All Hail Megatron in Japanese, Takara Tomy took to their Legends line again to give LG-20 Skids the most comic-accurate paint job,

It's not too surprising when Hayato Sakamoto, the guy behind the Legends line, has also done work for IDW as the artist of several MTMTE issues.

At BotCon 2016, lots of people were wanting him to draw Nickel and other MTMTE characters for them.

You could argue the same for Italy and Guido Guidi, but we don't even get the toys to begin with.

Not bad for a heavily armed day-dreamer (theoretician), who's prone to distracted driving .
Bumping into things at 60 miles per hour?! We don't call that "bumping" where I'm from. Bots don't let Bots think and drive!

Seibertronians, it's time again to add our ever-growing collection of Transfomer toy galleries! This time we'll be taking a look at Takara Legends Legends LG-03 Tankor, LG-04 Roadbuster and LG-05 Whirl! Check a hand-picked, locally grown selection below, and click on any of the images to be taken to the full galleries!

Transformers Legends Whirl (114 images) - Voyager Class










Transformers Legends Roadbuster (123 images) - Voyager Class










Transformers Legends Tankor (133 images) - Deluxe Class

Seriously can't wait to get Roadbuster whenever I finally ship him. I have a nice Wreckers insignia for him too

Tankor's legs are backwards in the gallery (his knees bend backwards).

Sabrblade wrote:Tankor's legs are backwards in the gallery (his knees bend backwards

You didnt realize that back when Ryan did the gallery for the Hasbro version?

There we go, this finally lets me do a good comparison of which Whirl suits IDW best.
... I mean, yeah, okay; neither of them look quite like MTMTE's beautiful abomination of hell, but I'll take what I can get. And Takara's lighter blue seems to match MTMTE Whirl more.




Plus I am a SUCKER for that cockpit. God it's beautiful.

Its really interesting how Takara went all toy accurate on their release of Whirl as opposed to Hasbro. Which is a shame of course because Whirl was known by most as being just a toy.

william-james88 wrote:Its really interesting how Takara went all toy accurate on their release of Whirl as opposed to Hasbro. Which is a shame of course because Whirl was known by most as being just a toy.

Hasbro probably thought that what they did was toy-accurate enough, while also integrating some Classics-style updated elements into the design (with the head and digitigrade legs specifically inspired by his MTMTE design) as they are wont to do. Takara being Takara probably saw what Hasbro had done and went "We can make it even MORE accurate!" and thus gave us their version.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its really interesting how Takara went all toy accurate on their release of Whirl as opposed to Hasbro. Which is a shame of course because Whirl was known by most as being just a toy.

Hasbro probably thought that what they did was toy-accurate enough, while also integrating some Classics-style updated elements into the design (with the head and digitigrade legs specifically inspired by his MTMTE design) as they are wont to do. Takara being Takara probably saw what Hasbro had done and went "We can make it even MORE accurate!" and thus gave us their version.

What is toy accurate about Hasbro's colours?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its really interesting how Takara went all toy accurate on their release of Whirl as opposed to Hasbro. Which is a shame of course because Whirl was known by most as being just a toy.

Hasbro probably thought that what they did was toy-accurate enough, while also integrating some Classics-style updated elements into the design (with the head and digitigrade legs specifically inspired by his MTMTE design) as they are wont to do. Takara being Takara probably saw what Hasbro had done and went "We can make it even MORE accurate!" and thus gave us their version.

What is toy accurate about Hasbro's colours?

That they are light blue, yellow, black, silver, red (eye), and whatever color the canopy is. As I said, they probably felt their deco was "close enough" since they aren't as obsessed/picky about getting the exact matching color shades as the G1 toy.

But looking at the Hasbro figure it's still blatantly obvious what they were basing their figure's deco on, right down to their giving the Generations figure silver thighs where the original toy had metal thighs. Now that's a detail that Hasbro didn't need to mimic and which Takara would typically be chided over for being "too slavish" if Hasbro hadn't already done it first.

It's Beast Wars Tuesday once again! That means Seibertron.com is rolling out (heh) a brand new set of Beast Wars-themed galleries! Today, we've got the LG-EX (exclusive) versions of Takara Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator, which were exclusive to the Transformers Fes2016 in Japan! Take a look at the preview of each down below, and then click on any of the images to be taken to each respective gallery, all of which include some comparison shots of the Exlusive Versions with the regular Takara and Hasbro versions!

Transformers Legends Rhinox (120 images) - Voyager Class














Transformers Legends Waspinator (115 images) - Deluxe Class










Transformers Legends Rattrap (130 images) - Deluxe Class

My LG-EX Waspinator is on the way to join my swarm finally. Don't need the other two, but I MUST HAVE ALL THE WASPINATORS.

"Rat to Rattorp"? Someone was eating a Milky Way

Of these 3 Beast Wars molds, I think the LG-EX versions of Rhinox and Waspinator are superior to the previous Generations offerings from Takara Tomy and Hasbro. However, with Rattrap, I feel that the original Hasbro version more-or-less has the head correctly colored to the cartoon. However, I like how the oddly colored Takara Tomy versions has the full head painted at least, instead of half painted. Odd that they didn't do the same thing with Waspinator for some reason. The green looks better to me on the Hasbro Generations version, but I like the overall package (specifically the black markings on the head's antennae).

There is little or no difference between the standard Takara Tomy and these versions. That's why they are still going cheap no matter where I look in Japan (by "cheap", I mean "as expensive as the standard versions").

Nothing to see here. Move along.

primalxconvoy wrote:There is little or no difference between the standard Takara Tomy and these versions. That's why they are still going cheap no matter where I look in Japan (by "cheap", I mean "as expensive as the standard versions").

Nothing to see here. Move along.

There is one huge differece: no metallic coating on the exclusive versions. That alone makes them far superior to the Japanese retail figures.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:There is little or no difference between the standard Takara Tomy and these versions. That's why they are still going cheap no matter where I look in Japan (by "cheap", I mean "as expensive as the standard versions").

Nothing to see here. Move along.

There is one huge differece: no metallic coating on the exclusive versions. That alone makes them far superior to the Japanese retail figures.

Emerje

Considering the animation models had metallic parts then I am glad that I didn't bother with the "exclusive" versions, as they seem LESS than the normal TT versions.

Cheers for the heads up.

primalxconvoy wrote:Considering the animation models had metallic parts then I am glad that I didn't bother with the "exclusive" versions, as they seem LESS than the normal TT versions.

Cheers for the heads up.

Sure, if it was just the "metal" parts, but do people really want a metallic rhino over a normal looking one? That alone makes both the Hasbro and EX versions superior.




Emerje

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Considering the animation models had metallic parts then I am glad that I didn't bother with the "exclusive" versions, as they seem LESS than the normal TT versions.

Cheers for the heads up.

Sure, if it was just the "metal" parts, but do people really want a metallic rhino over a normal looking one? That alone makes both the Hasbro and EX versions superior.




Emerje

For the beast mode, that is a fair ifference. I would say that the regular TT version loks superior to the Hasblow version (but then again, this is standard as Hasblow is usually below Takara's efforts). However, looking at the CG model, perhaps the metallic sheen is warranted?

LG-EX seems a clear winner on both Rhinox and Waspinator, but Hasbro's Rattrap blows both of Takara's counterparts out of the water.

primalxconvoy wrote:For the beast mode, that is a fair ifference. I would say that the regular TT version loks superior to the Hasblow version (but then again, this is standard as Hasblow is usually below Takara's efforts). However, looking at the CG model, perhaps the metallic sheen is warranted?

Nothing about the CG model hide looks metallic or even super shiny to me.

The Hasbro version isn't inferior, it's based more on the original toy with cartoon elements.





Choosing a different source reference doesn't make something worse.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:For the beast mode, that is a fair ifference. I would say that the regular TT version loks superior to the Hasblow version (but then again, this is standard as Hasblow is usually below Takara's efforts). However, looking at the CG model, perhaps the metallic sheen is warranted?

Nothing about the CG model hide looks metallic or even super shiny to me.

The Hasbro version isn't inferior, it's based more on the original toy with cartoon elements.




Choosing a different source reference doesn't make something worse.

Emerje

I have to disagree. Although G1 can get a pass for not being authentic to the cartoons, I have no empathy for the original Beast wars toys, as it was the SHOW thta was the "real" look, rather than the toys )toy-only molds nonwithstanding). Thus, for me, the Hasblow versions are neithr show, nor toy accurate and thus worthless. they would do, at a pinch, if I had no other choice, but luckily for me, the regular TT versions are so much better.

The exclusive versions are not a significant step up in show accuracy for me, and the price and hassle of paying to see the original cast at an Aeon Mall to get them didn't endear them to me (and I am guessing, most collectors in japan), either.

Thus, the original TT versions are the best, IMO.

And you're welcome to that opinion, but I'll continue to be unconvinced that they're better when they're simply different.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:And you're welcome to that opinion, but I'll continue to be unconvinced that they're better when they're simply different.

Emerje

Thank you. I will continue to believe that you are wrong on this one, too.

"Takara master race", and all that.