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[ZeroWolf]

I still say that a twist in the vein of "I was evil along fools!" Is in itself bad writing, everyone is still expecting it and it's a twist as stupid as most of M. Night Shamylan (spelling wrong I know) twists.

But I digress, it sea people always fall into the camps of "just pretending to be good" and "wanting redemption" so I have to ask, why do people want him evil? There's other bad guys out there now who can have the spotlight, galvatron has never shined so bright...apart from the old marvel comics.

As for one autobot life meaning more to wiping out millions? Well how many of them did he really know personally? That and redemption stories all start with the protagonist finding new value in life.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

A twist like Megs being evil for years while being an Autobot just doesn't seem to fit with what we seen. I believe he truly is going down that different path

[Va'al]

Just for information, there are some previews and extra pages floating around the internet for MTMTE #50.
We will not be newsing anything until we get the actual material from IDW.

Please read James Roberts' message about the situation, too:

[...] it pains me that random, spoiler-heavy panels/pages, out of both context and sequence, will spread everywhere over the next two weeks, making it nigh-on impossible for readers to approach this exceptionally important issue as the creative team intended. You won't read the issue as it was written or experience it as it was designed to be experienced. Furthermore, sales could take a dent.

So please, if you've happened upon some pages from #50 that aren't 4, 5 or 6, don't share them.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Really sucks considering this was supposed to come out today, and yet is delayed 2 weeks. It needs to get back to the regular slot of the last week of the month, not the second week of the following month

[Professor Smooth]

I don't know why this happened, but the book was released on iTunes here in Japan. The whole issue, in English, for 950 yen.

I don't want to spoil anything for anybody, but I will say that it's worth waiting for. Not sure if it's possible to use the Japanese version of iTunes from outside the country, but if you can, get on it.

[Va'al]

I don't know why this happened, but the book was released on iTunes here in Japan. The whole issue, in English, for 950 yen.

I don't want to spoil anything for anybody, but I will say that it's worth waiting for. Not sure if it's possible to use the Japanese version of iTunes from outside the country, but if you can, get on it.

Yep, we were aware of this, and thank you for keeping quiet on it!
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[ScottyP]

If anyone posts unmarked spoilers and/or non-officially-distributed "preview" pages here I will perma ban you never be friends with you.

[o.supreme]

Hopefully with March & June having 5 Wednesdays, they will be able to get back on production schedule. Especially if ever down the road they want to do another crossover event. It would not be very well received to read things out of order.

But then again SoTW #4 is also delayed, and TF vs GI Joe, well that appears like the Ghost of Christmas Future, and really should be put to an end, hopefully soon. Also I talked to one of the comic shop workers. Apparently DC is behind on a number of titles as well. looks to be happening more & more in the industry.

[Va'al]

Hopefully with March & June having 5 Wednesdays, they will be able to get back on production schedule. Especially if ever down the road they want to do another crossover event. It would not be very well received to read things out of order.

But then again SoTW #4 is also delayed, and TF vs GI Joe, well that appears like the Ghost of Christmas Future, and really should be put to an end, hopefully soon. Also I talked to one of the comic shop workers. Apparently DC is behind on a number of titles as well. looks to be happening more & more in the industry.

It's not a production issue, or at least not from the creative side. There is something big happening in the physical production and shipping of the books across the board.

[ScottyP]

After delays, false previews, cut parts and more delays, the second milestone for IDW Publishing Transformers is here - More Than Meets the Eye also reaches issue #50! Check out below a full preview, as first shown on Newsarama, and make sure to head back here next week for the regular Seibertron.com review of this landmark issue.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne & Brendan Cahill (a) • Griffith (c)
THE DYING OF THE LIGHT—PART 1! Since joining the Lost Light, MEGATRON has rejected everything that once made him the most feared and hated Cybertronian of all time. But penitence has a price, and before the ex-Decepticon can find true redemption he must first confront his darkest legacy—the Decepticon Justice Division.
FC • 48 pages • $7.99

Bullet points:
MEGATRON’S past comes back to haunt him—literally!
The D.J.D. are utterly committed to punishing any who abandon MEGATRON’s cause… and now they know MEGATRON is an AUTOBOT!
The masterplan of TRANSFORMER’s geniuses James Roberts and Alex Milne reveals itself!
The story begins here—but you won’t believe where it will end!
Will the Lost Light survive? Nothing is sure!
Variant Cover by Alex Milne!

[ZeroWolf]

Oh dear, looks like they are going to need a miracle. Though I wonder if they blank one of the previews as to not give spoilers.

[BATTLEMASTER IIC]

Looks like Tarn is holding them at gunpoint while having them all record their last wishes. I think it's Tarn based on the shadow across Nightbeat's face that Red Alert pointed out. Looks like a double fusion cannon.

[Noideaforaname]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

[Randomhero]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

I'm with you there. I don't believe this in the slightest. The DJD don't give out final requests. Not to their own and absolutely not Autobots. The first pages feel like nothing but Tumblr bait anymore.

[MTMESkids]

still....5 days...
Anyway whos's faces are on the stones in the cover?
I thik I reckognize Drift, and Overlord....an other ideas?

[ZeroWolf]

I don't know about that randomhero, being Roberts creations he's free to dicate their way of engagement, especially if megatron is involved and as part of a deal has brokered an execution time as part of his own plan to rescue everyone.

Let's face it, tarn would believe megs if he said this was a trick, and listen to him on all matters (when he's not trying to kill him.

[Squiddy]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

The people who boarded the Lost Light in issue #1 were died and was bought back by quantum shenanigans. Everyone at this point is on their last life. I will say that I feel like James has gotten scared of killing off major characters. He's been hyping up #50 on his twitter for a good while but I just think he likes getting people overly excited....

I'm with you there. I don't believe this in the slightest. The DJD don't give out final requests. Not to their own and absolutely not Autobots. The first pages feel like nothing but Tumblr bait anymore.

First: Tarn did. Issue #39, in the beginning, his latest victim requested to take his mask off as a "last words". Think about it, the LL is a huge ship filled with Autobots. Tarn has a big group of Decepticons with him. When will there be a more perfect time to strike fear onto others about the DJD and their ruthless actions?

Second: What the hell do the first pages relate ANYTHING to tumblr? It's a bleak/dark opening so let's blame tumblr for it? Your logic is confusing...

[Randomhero]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

The people who boarded the Lost Light in issue #1 were died and was bought back by quantum shenanigans. Everyone at this point is on their last life. I will say that I feel like James has gotten scared of killing off major characters. He's been hyping up #50 on his twitter for a good while but I just think he likes getting people overly excited....

I'm with you there. I don't believe this in the slightest. The DJD don't give out final requests. Not to their own and absolutely not Autobots. The first pages feel like nothing but Tumblr bait anymore.

First: Tarn did. Issue #39, in the beginning, his latest victim requested to take his mask off as a "last words". Think about it, the LL is a huge ship filled with Autobots. Tarn has a big group of Decepticons with him. When will there be a more perfect time to strike fear onto others about the DJD and their ruthless actions?

Second: What the hell do the first pages relate ANYTHING to tumblr? It's a bleak/dark opening so let's blame tumblr for it? Your logic is confusing...

These are nothing but confessions and requests of where to be buried and how their funerals should be. Not how the DJD work, we saw how they handled the duplicate lost light.

This is cheesy found footage confessions like in Blair witch. The DJD are not recording their last words and requests. The crew themselves are making them, and the line from Red Alert is to throw you off like most of what James does in his writing. he puts a little thing in to keep you focused while he's doing something else. Similar to Shockwaves origin. You read the whole thing and go "there were little clues everywhere!" But you're not paying attention to them because you're focusing on the red white and blue color scheme and going "the senator is ultra Magnus!" That's how James writes.

These first pages are meant for you to go "OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!" And I not feeling it.

Also, it doesn't matter who dies! They have a time machine brief case with paradox locks! It doesn't matter! Why do you think there's a three week time difference? Everyone can die except a couple people, they use the brief case and can literally change the outcome and and Optimus can jump in and everyone is fine because the biggest "F YOU" mcguffin is in their hands.

[MTMESkids]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

The people who boarded the Lost Light in issue #1 were died and was bought back by quantum shenanigans. Everyone at this point is on their last life. I will say that I feel like James has gotten scared of killing off major characters. He's been hyping up #50 on his twitter for a good while but I just think he likes getting people overly excited....

I'm with you there. I don't believe this in the slightest. The DJD don't give out final requests. Not to their own and absolutely not Autobots. The first pages feel like nothing but Tumblr bait anymore.

First: Tarn did. Issue #39, in the beginning, his latest victim requested to take his mask off as a "last words". Think about it, the LL is a huge ship filled with Autobots. Tarn has a big group of Decepticons with him. When will there be a more perfect time to strike fear onto others about the DJD and their ruthless actions?

Second: What the hell do the first pages relate ANYTHING to tumblr? It's a bleak/dark opening so let's blame tumblr for it? Your logic is confusing...

These are nothing but confessions and requests of where to be buried and how their funerals should be. Not how the DJD work, we saw how they handled the duplicate lost light.

This is cheesy found footage confessions like in Blair witch. The DJD are not recording their last words and requests. The crew themselves are making them, and the line from Red Alert is to throw you off like most of what James does in his writing. he puts a little thing in to keep you focused while he's doing something else. Similar to Shockwaves origin. You read the whole thing and go "there were little clues everywhere!" But you're not paying attention to them because you're focusing on the red white and blue color scheme and going "the senator is ultra Magnus!" That's how James writes.

These first pages are meant for you to go "OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!" And I not feeling it.

Also, it doesn't matter who dies! They have a time machine brief case with paradox locks! It doesn't matter! Why do you think there's a three week time difference? Everyone can die except a couple people, they use the brief case and can literally change the outcome and and Optimus can jump in and everyone is fine because the biggest "F YOU" mcguffin is in their hands.

On the other hand, maybe the DJD feels capturing the lost light with Megatron, and show this kind of fear and hopelessness to the world is a more effective message than destroy them in silence. Don't forget the first time it was just ordinary business. now its about Megatron. But who knows?

For me even that I think/hope that the majority of these guys will stay alive, this few pages give the feeling of hopelessness.

What is also interesting that as I see two or three characters says betrayal...by who?

[Randomhero]

Hasn't everyone died, like, twice already? Starting off a series with "they all DIE" is a cheap tactic to begin with, but MtMtE has had so many fake-outs this just doesn't have the slightest effect.

The people who boarded the Lost Light in issue #1 were died and was bought back by quantum shenanigans. Everyone at this point is on their last life. I will say that I feel like James has gotten scared of killing off major characters. He's been hyping up #50 on his twitter for a good while but I just think he likes getting people overly excited....

I'm with you there. I don't believe this in the slightest. The DJD don't give out final requests. Not to their own and absolutely not Autobots. The first pages feel like nothing but Tumblr bait anymore.

First: Tarn did. Issue #39, in the beginning, his latest victim requested to take his mask off as a "last words". Think about it, the LL is a huge ship filled with Autobots. Tarn has a big group of Decepticons with him. When will there be a more perfect time to strike fear onto others about the DJD and their ruthless actions?

Second: What the hell do the first pages relate ANYTHING to tumblr? It's a bleak/dark opening so let's blame tumblr for it? Your logic is confusing...

These are nothing but confessions and requests of where to be buried and how their funerals should be. Not how the DJD work, we saw how they handled the duplicate lost light.

This is cheesy found footage confessions like in Blair witch. The DJD are not recording their last words and requests. The crew themselves are making them, and the line from Red Alert is to throw you off like most of what James does in his writing. he puts a little thing in to keep you focused while he's doing something else. Similar to Shockwaves origin. You read the whole thing and go "there were little clues everywhere!" But you're not paying attention to them because you're focusing on the red white and blue color scheme and going "the senator is ultra Magnus!" That's how James writes.

These first pages are meant for you to go "OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!" And I not feeling it.

Also, it doesn't matter who dies! They have a time machine brief case with paradox locks! It doesn't matter! Why do you think there's a three week time difference? Everyone can die except a couple people, they use the brief case and can literally change the outcome and and Optimus can jump in and everyone is fine because the biggest "F YOU" mcguffin is in their hands.

On the other hand, maybe the DJD feels capturing the lost light with Megatron, and show this kind of fear and hopelessness to the world is a more effective message than destroy them in silence. Don't forget the first time it was just ordinary business. now its about Megatron. But who knows?

For me even that I think/hope that the majority of these guys will stay alive, this few pages give the feeling of hopelessness.

What is also interesting that as I see two or three characters says betrayal...by who?

Ravage.

The DJD don't need to show anything, they're walking killing machines that are already feared by most.

Also, it's not the end of MTMTE. Its the End of this "season", one or two main characters will die MAYBE. I don't believe for 5 seconds Rung will because will its Rung. He's still a giant mystery. There still has to be a crew for MTMTE to go on.

All I can think about is how the Overload story was labeled as being a massacre...we lost borderline red shirt Pipes(still sad) but he was a red shirt, Rewind who's alive again and a dude who looked like minicon Highwire. Truly a massacre. Dying light we lost Ambulon. What a contribution he was, it felt like his death was going to have meaning to First Aid but that plot was swipped under the rug and even the last two issues were sold as "death in the corridors" no one died.

Sorry but I'm not buying this comic anymore as being a heartbreaking series. I hope the story is good but to cry over who dies and lives is pointless.

[Squiddy]

These are nothing but confessions and requests of where to be buried and how their funerals should be. Not how the DJD work, we saw how they handled the duplicate lost light.

This is cheesy found footage confessions like in Blair witch. The DJD are not recording their last words and requests. The crew themselves are making them, and the line from Red Alert is to throw you off like most of what James does in his writing. he puts a little thing in to keep you focused while he's doing something else. Similar to Shockwaves origin. You read the whole thing and go "there were little clues everywhere!" But you're not paying attention to them because you're focusing on the red white and blue color scheme and going "the senator is ultra Magnus!" That's how James writes.

These first pages are meant for you to go "OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!" And I not feeling it.

Also, it doesn't matter who dies! They have a time machine brief case with paradox locks! It doesn't matter! Why do you think there's a three week time difference? Everyone can die except a couple people, they use the brief case and can literally change the outcome and and Optimus can jump in and everyone is fine because the biggest "F YOU" mcguffin is in their hands.

You bring up a good point. Even though Tarn is being built up to encounter Megatron very soon, it's very possible that it's not Tarn.

It could be the same species that the LL were fighting 3 weeks ago. Megatron made it clear to not kill any of them, cue Tailgate directly splitting one of their heads open with a punch. This could've caught the attention of the Galactic Council's attention and are being sentenced to death on the ship. Or hell, it could be Overlord since Red Alert asked Fortress Maximus if that gun shadow looked familiar. It's up in the air who's actually standing there and making them request how they want to be buried. Personally, I like those little drips of subtext in MTMTE, it makes it clear that you have to pay attention to who's saying what to who.

Megatron has the only briefcase left on the ship, the rest were destroyed, but who said he'd save everyone on the ship with it? He's renounced being violent but he's still Megatron....BTW Optimus Prime is too busy with the garbage he started on Earth so he's not coming to help.

It's perfectly fine that you're not generally interested in the first couple of pages presented but don't use the overused excuse of "it's tumblr's fault". It really comes off that you just want to blame this issue on something that doesn't even relate to the comic itself.

[ZeroWolf]

I still think that the shadow is megs who is doing some machination against tarn who as the ultimate fan boy will probably accept megs back in a heart beat.

You are right though that there is some clues there that we haven't seen yet.

Again though you're assuming that the djd are going to do everything the same as before when this is a different scenario, they know they'll be going after a ship they already tore apart once, and if Roberts wants to play this differently then it's his call.

Another little thing I noticed, nightbeats request, it's a nice little call back and this could be forshadowing titans return where we know nightbeat is a titan master.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm not completely sure what to make of it yet. But those guys do look pretty beat up that's for sure. Poor Nautica

[CombaticonsCombine?]

People complaining about them using the briefcase as a MacGuffin to save everyone, please remember this:

The briefcases were all part of a larger time machine. An individual briefcase can't be used for time travel if the others are destroyed. Which they are. Furthermore, we know the DJD do occasionally give final requests. But honestly, I don't see this as just the DJD. Since the DJD has aligned themselves with Deathsaurus' troops, it could be any of them as well.

And, to indirectly quote someone, I don't think these pages are supposed to be "OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!" material. We've seen Roberts' writing when it's meant to resemble that, and this isn't it. It's entirely possible this isn't supposed to hype us, but just leave us wanting more. Like a cliffhanger, which is what many of these previews have been.

I feel a lot of people are misreading these few pages when they're out of context, so hopefully this post can help put those misconceptions to rest.

[Mr Skram]

Anyone else feel like it was a bit of a letdown? I mean, some cool stuff happened but it's another issue that left me saying "next issue is going to be awesome!" instead of "this issue was awesome!".