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Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 7th, 2020 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 7th, 2020 @ 11:01pm CST
Maybe there are some movie stars who are fans.-Kanrabat- wrote:For the relatively rich guy who own a freaking MANSION.
Either way, they keep making these things, so some folks must be buying them.
Posted by william-james88 on December 7th, 2020 @ 11:07pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe there are some movie stars who are fans.-Kanrabat- wrote:For the relatively rich guy who own a freaking MANSION.
Either way, they keep making these things, so some folks must be buying them.
Yup, it adheres to the main models of commerce. These are expensive, but they definitely give a lot more for people who find value/prestige in owning these. Basically you are paying more to get a lot more and getting something that few others have.
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 8th, 2020 @ 1:32am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:For the relatively rich guy who own a freaking MANSION.
yeah it would have to be a mansion with its décor dedicated to everything transformers with all the statues, busts and artwork in every room
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 8th, 2020 @ 4:38am CST
Ultra Markus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:For the relatively rich guy who own a freaking MANSION.
yeah it would have to be a mansion with its décor dedicated to everything transformers with all the statues, busts and artwork in every room
Well, that's basically what I already have. But I ran out of space ages ago and my locker is gradually filling up.
My main point with these statues was not really the price. But WHERE in the freaking hell can the casual collector display such a MONSTER?
And it's not something you can just display on the floor like a Titan.
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 8th, 2020 @ 9:51am CST
I can't, but if it was just me living in the house then maybe but with a wife and kids there's no way LOL-Kanrabat- wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:For the relatively rich guy who own a freaking MANSION.
yeah it would have to be a mansion with its décor dedicated to everything transformers with all the statues, busts and artwork in every room
Well, that's basically what I already have. But I ran out of space ages ago and my locker is gradually filling up.
My main point with these statues was not really the price. But WHERE in the freaking hell can the casual collector display such a MONSTER?
And it's not something you can just display on the floor like a Titan.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 8th, 2020 @ 10:01am CST
On pedestals set up within their greenhouse gardens, silly.-Kanrabat- wrote:My main point with these statues was not really the price. But WHERE in the freaking hell can the casual collector display such a MONSTER?
And it's not something you can just display on the floor like a Titan.
Posted by Lexomatic on December 11th, 2020 @ 10:09am CST
To be appreciated, any kind of high-detail objet d'art, 2D or 3D, needs to be surrounded by uncluttered negative space. (You can crowd a collection in a glass display case, and plenty of people do, but can you honestly say the individual figures look good that way?) That's easy with something the size of a refrigerator magnet or LEGO minifig, but once the pieces grow to this scale, you can either (a) fill a dedicated gallery with multiple pieces, (b1) put a single piece in a room shared by other purposes, or (b2) rotate the collection. That's what professional museums do -- public galleries display only a fraction of the collection at any one time. (An oil painting has conservation concerns that a plastic figure doesn't, but still...)
Ever been to a shopping mall in Las Vegas? There are gallery-stores full of oversized paintings, movie-prop replicas and fantasy garden statuary. The same question-pair "who's buying this / where do they put it?" arises. And then you get to the tier of Jay Leno's collection of classic cars.
Posted by william-james88 on April 23rd, 2022 @ 8:38am CDT
“To our beloved fans and collectors, We regret to inform you of the cancellation of projects Premium Masterline Transformers: War For Cybertron Optimus Prime (PMTF-05) and the Premium Masterline Transformers: War For Cybertron Megatron (PMTF-06)…
Unfortunately, due to the continually increasing cost of production combined with the insufficient amount of demand and interest, we have made the difficult decision to cease production and development of these statues…”
Posted by Autobot N on April 23rd, 2022 @ 9:13am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on April 23rd, 2022 @ 9:37am CDT
I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.
I can't imagine the conversation around a $2000 Joker Statue
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 23rd, 2022 @ 10:09am CDT
Posted by SpaceEagle on April 23rd, 2022 @ 11:48am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Honestly, it's not just these items,I'm not sure how any company making extreme high end. Collectibles exists. I mean they look great, but I can't think of a single person, even the most hardcore fan of any characters TF, Star Wars, Marvel, DC, whatever....that would want a statue of said character that costs upwards of $1000.
I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.
I can't imagine the conversation around a $2000 Joker Statue
The same thought always pops in my head whenever I see this things...like, sure your money do what you want with it but like...a grand for some big statue that'll just...I dunno, look pretty in the living room? Especially odd considering this is based off of a toy that's significantly cheaper...and said toy can ACTUALLY be played with, transform, yadda yadda. At least 200 buckaroos will get you a massive toy that can pose as you see fit and can transform (Earthrise Scorponok, for example), but a grand for something like this is definitely a niche I can't understand.
Posted by cloudballoon on April 23rd, 2022 @ 12:18pm CDT
Only hope Prime1 didn't spend much on the development up to the cancellation. If they were able to obtain the CAD files for these, there might have some significant cost savings on the sculpting.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 23rd, 2022 @ 12:33pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Honestly, it's not just these items,I'm not sure how any company making extreme high end. Collectibles exists. I mean they look great, but I can't think of a single person, even the most hardcore fan of any characters TF, Star Wars, Marvel, DC, whatever....that would want a statue of said character that costs upwards of $1000.
I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.
I can't imagine the conversation around a $2000 Joker Statue
You'd be surprised actually, what's so alien to you or me is a no brainer to those with the money. They don't frequent this site though. Having lurked other places, I've seen people buying these and others. Heck, I've seen people buy far more expensive items then what these cancelled items would have cost.
Posted by cloudballoon on April 23rd, 2022 @ 3:05pm CDT
These people simply have more "parents" money than they can ever spend. They don't care about money, they DO care about buying exclusive stuff for bragging rights.
The stories I hear from my wife who works at an insurance brokerage... man... no job, 20 somethings, owns 4~5 supercars and snapping up multi-million dollar homes. Paying a monthly insurance premium that's 3x more than my own salary.
These are for them.
Posted by Mirimus on April 23rd, 2022 @ 3:05pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.
Ask these people which of your bills they'd like to start paying...
Posted by ExciKaiser on April 23rd, 2022 @ 6:22pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:o.supreme wrote:Honestly, it's not just these items,I'm not sure how any company making extreme high end. Collectibles exists. I mean they look great, but I can't think of a single person, even the most hardcore fan of any characters TF, Star Wars, Marvel, DC, whatever....that would want a statue of said character that costs upwards of $1000.
I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.
I can't imagine the conversation around a $2000 Joker Statue
The same thought always pops in my head whenever I see this things...like, sure your money do what you want with it but like...a grand for some big statue that'll just...I dunno, look pretty in the living room? Especially odd considering this is based off of a toy that's significantly cheaper...and said toy can ACTUALLY be played with, transform, yadda yadda. At least 200 buckaroos will get you a massive toy that can pose as you see fit and can transform (Earthrise Scorponok, for example), but a grand for something like this is definitely a niche I can't understand.
While I agree, there's definitely worse on my opinon on the collectible market : Busts.
I'll really, never, never understand the point of busts. Transformers or any other franchise.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 23rd, 2022 @ 6:41pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:While I agree, there's definitely worse on my opinon on the collectible market : Busts.
I'll really, never, never understand the point of busts. Transformers or any other franchise.
Mei neither. I find them creepy and unattractive.
Unless it's the classic ones from the Antique Roman era.
Those are freaking awesome.
But with a modern character with a modern design in colors? It just doesn't work for me.
All of my nopes.
Posted by 1984forever on April 23rd, 2022 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 24th, 2022 @ 12:43am CDT
1984forever wrote:I don’t know who buys these things. I’ve been inside my share of luxury apartments on Park Ave, 5th Ave, Central Park West etc. and I have yet to see a sci-fi statue. The closest would be Ralph Lauren’s suit of Storm Trooper armor.
It doesn't have to be that sort of person that buys these. These statues are made for people who are fans of a show or a comic or whatever, but don't necessarily want to buy a "toy", just something that'll look good on a shelf. These are for people who want something sizeable that represents something they liked from that series. As expensive as these statues are, the people buying them are probably spending less in a year on statues than many of us are spending in a year on toys, even if they're buying just one $3K statue. If you ask the average person on the street what sounds more acceptable, $1K in 20 action figures or $1K in 3 character art statues, they're probably going to say the statues. Over on MyFigureCollection.com there's a lot of people who post pictures of their anime figure collections that are loaded with $300+ statues and $800+ dolls and in many cases they're teens and 20-somethings and not even American.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Mei neither. I find them creepy and unattractive.
Unless it's the classic ones from the Antique Roman era.
Those are freaking awesome.
But with a modern character with a modern design in colors? It just doesn't work for me.
All of my nopes.
Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 24th, 2022 @ 4:07am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 24th, 2022 @ 4:50am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 24th, 2022 @ 6:13am CDT
Emerje wrote:Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.
Emerje
Oh yeah, I remember that fact.
One more proof that like journalists, historians either frame/lie/mistake the events all the time and to know the real truth, one needs to dig deeper.
Made me remember about that belief we had for hundreds of years that the Egyptian pyramids were built by slaves until we found the ledgers that proved that they were built by regular paid workers.
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2022 @ 9:51am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Emerje wrote:Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.
Emerje
Oh yeah, I remember that fact.
One more proof that like journalists, historians either frame/lie/mistake the events all the time and to know the real truth, one needs to dig deeper.
Made me remember about that belief we had for hundreds of years that the Egyptian pyramids were built by slaves until we found the ledgers that proved that they were built by regular paid workers.
Excuse me, I think we all know who really built the pyramids.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 24th, 2022 @ 11:39am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Excuse me, I think we all know who really built the pyramids.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 24th, 2022 @ 3:14pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 24th, 2022 @ 3:30pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.
How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 24th, 2022 @ 3:38pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.
How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.
Ohh, good question! If it's something like that then honestly I would hope that it also has something like a removeable/replaceable head piece so the actor wearing the suit is visible. That would be pretty awesome!
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 24th, 2022 @ 3:48pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.
How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.
Ohh, good question! If it's something like that then honestly I would hope that it also has something like a removeable/replaceable head piece so the actor wearing the suit is visible. That would be pretty awesome!
I've seen vinyls that are similar to that concept, recreating the likeness of the first actor to wear the costume. I'd be surprised if there hasn't been high end products...with the amount of Tokusatsu content, there would be plenty to fill a line with
Posted by Emerje on April 25th, 2022 @ 1:48am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...
What are you, 80 or something? That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 25th, 2022 @ 3:15am CDT
Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...
What are you, 80 or something? That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.
Emerje
I favour the cad files option, as that seems the most likely.
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 26th, 2022 @ 3:40am CDT
Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...
What are you, 80 or something? That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.
Emerje
Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...
Posted by Emerje on April 26th, 2022 @ 7:56am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...
What are you, 80 or something? That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.
Emerje
Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...
That's even worse! Not only is that incredibly impractical (why not say super glue?) since you'd lose all the details and have to sculpt in new ones, it would be too small.
Emerje
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 26th, 2022 @ 9:10am CDT
Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...
What are you, 80 or something? That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.
Emerje
Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...
That's even worse! Not only is that incredibly impractical (why not say super glue?) since you'd lose all the details and have to sculpt in new ones, it would be too small.
Emerje
Who are we to question art? Pretty soon, artificial intelligence will take it over anyway:
- https://youtu.be/U1cF9QCu1rQ