In-Hand Images of Transformers Titans Return Kup with Flintlock

Looks good.

I wish they'd used a lighter grey.

Looks to be a rather interesting transformation.

My only real problem with this mold is the arms. The rest of him looks so bulky and kick ass and then he has noodle arms. You can't be intimidating with noodle arms.

Something about him just... puts me off. Hmm...

steals_your_goats wrote:My only real problem with this mold is the arms. The rest of him looks so bulky and kick ass and then he has noodle arms. You can't be intimidating with noodle arms.

Oh yeah. That and the color are it.

SillySpringer wrote:Something about him just... puts me off. Hmm...

steals_your_goats wrote:My only real problem with this mold is the arms. The rest of him looks so bulky and kick ass and then he has noodle arms. You can't be intimidating with noodle arms.

Oh yeah. That and the color are it.

The colors are odd but I still think it works. It's just those damn arms

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Something about him just... puts me off. Hmm...

steals_your_goats wrote:My only real problem with this mold is the arms. The rest of him looks so bulky and kick ass and then he has noodle arms. You can't be intimidating with noodle arms.

Oh yeah. That and the color are it.

The colors are odd but I still think it works. It's just those damn arms

I think it's the combinations that makes it so bad. If it was either darker colors or thicker arms it would look decent. The bright teal skinny arms just looks weird.

Yeah, I'm kinda sharing that sentiment. This review makes the colours look far better than they did before - a similar kind of effect to Victorion; having it in-hand is much better than photos suggest - but those arms are missing a bit of bulk. If they were a bit bulkier I'd say, funnily enough, that this would make an excellent Ironhide and Ratchet. I've said it before but the more I look, the more the details match up... not saying it will happen, but goddamn I'd love if it did.

I don't like the arms or torso much but the vehicle looks like chunky fun and I like that you can store the guns on the back of robot mode.

SillySpringer wrote:Something about him just... puts me off. Hmm...

steals_your_goats wrote:My only real problem with this mold is the arms. The rest of him looks so bulky and kick ass and then he has noodle arms. You can't be intimidating with noodle arms.

Oh yeah. That and the color are it.

Time to wait and see what does with him. Their paint jobs on Blurr & Scourge made a world of difference....but I don't see them changing his arms.

The proportions look fine to me. Kup has never been super bulky in any incarnation.

The colors look better here than they did in the first shots. I'm sure Takara will come out with something more cartoon accurate, but I'm actually digging the Marvel comic vibe of this deco.

The Tech Spec card is really interesting. Anybody ever take a look at yours? You should, as Kup's has updated icons! The one for Intelligence is far better IMO (and much less gruesome)

Something about him. I don't hate it, but in that comparison shot with the earlier Generations Kup, He just looks so dumbed down or something..

Looks good to me. I also like that his entire chest is glass and you can see the kibble underneath. For some reason i really like that.

I have mixed feeling on TR Kup. I've really been digging the whole aesthetic the TR line has been going for and I feel for the most part they've been nailing it. Kup really is no different. He really has a great updated G1 look, but... the bot mode looks kinda blah. Maybe its the colors, maybe it's the head but I can't quite put a finger on it. Like others said, it's just kinda off.

Now that alt mode looks all kinds of fun and awesome! It has a fun chunky compact truck I just want to roll around with TMs driving it vibe. I was going skip Kup unless he blew me away, but I may get him and just "lose" his head and let others take him for a spin.

Much like the Prime Kup, TR Kup may just become generic Autobot #3 hanging around the background.

The colors look terrible. I'm sure Takara's version will look better but it's not worth paying $30+ for on BBTS if you're okay with the original Generations version you already have.

I'm sure the next character they use for the mold will be more interesting.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
The one for Intelligence is far better IMO (and much less gruesome)

GRUESOME?

YoungPrime wrote:The colors look terrible. I'm sure Takara's version will look better but it's not worth paying $30+ for on BBTS if your okay with the original Generations version.

I'm sure the next character they use for the mold will be more interesting.

Yeah the mold itself just looks like it sucks. The CHUG version smokes ... this.

Blurr didn't bother me too much, he at least looked *nice*. Really disappointed. The head mold is nice, that's it. It doesn't even hang together, the deco clashes.

Looks like some of us here either have accepted or are starting to realize that Kup's never really had that interesting a robot mode design to begin with. His look was always just "an old man robot", but one that looks plain, ordinary, and average. Really, what made the guy stand out as memorable was his personality more than anything, while his physical appearance (at least in robot mode) was just kinda simple and generic-looking.

SillySpringer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
The one for Intelligence is far better IMO (and much less gruesome)

GRUESOME?

It was an organic brain at first

YoungPrime wrote:I'm sure the next character they use for the mold will be more interesting.

Crosshairs with Pinpointer is the most likely candidate.

Sabrblade wrote:Looks like some of us here either have accepted or are starting to realize that Kup's never really had that interesting a robot mode design to begin with. His look was always just "an old man robot", but one that looks plain, ordinary, and average. Really, what made the guy stand out as memorable was his personality more than anything, while his physical appearance (at least in robot mode) was just kinda simple and generic-looking.

Yes outside of his head sculpt Kup is the exact definition of a generic robot design which fits him since he is an older bot and I like to think that he was a generic soldier (think of the extra nameless Autobot warriors from say WFC/FOC) but became a veteran from surviving and getting around the universe so much.

(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Are there any bots with stats at 20?

WreckerJack wrote:Are there any bots with stats at 20?

Alpha Trion has 20 base and 40 with Sovereign.

WreckerJack wrote:Are there any bots with stats at 20?

Off the top of my head, Fort Max and Alpha Trion.

Terrsolpix wrote:(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Can you show us pictures with Headmasters/Titan Masters attached?

Nik Hero wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Can you show us pictures with Headmasters/Titan Masters attached?

I'm away right now but when I get back I'll take some. Any requests? I also realized how atrocious the grammar in the original post is

Anything that screams G1 Pedacons.

Terrsolpix wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Can you show us pictures with Headmasters/Titan Masters attached?

I'm away right now but when I get back I'll take some. Any requests? I also realized how atrocious the grammar in the original post is

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
The one for Intelligence is far better IMO (and much less gruesome)

GRUESOME?

It was an organic brain at first

I guess they don't want to spoil Predaking being in the line.

Nik Hero wrote:Anything that screams G1 Pedacons.

Terrsolpix wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Can you show us pictures with Headmasters/Titan Masters attached?

I'm away right now but when I get back I'll take some. Any requests? I also realized how atrocious the grammar in the original post is

If I nab anything from my local target I'll add that too.

Overall Kup looks pretty good. But there is one thing that stands out to me that isn't right. It's his head. It hardly looks like Kup to me.

Black Hat wrote:So either this is a (very elabourate) custom or we're actually getting a Headmaster Arcee.



Eh, I have the Legends version and she's perfect.

I think it's a custom. The Headmaster doesn't look like the ones Hasbro designs because of the huge backpack and too long neck. And there's no cockpit for it to fit into in vehicle mode. And it looks like we'll get a Titanmaster Arcee: Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

firefox91 wrote:Overall Kup looks pretty good. But there is one thing that stands out to me that isn't right. It's his head. It hardly looks like Kup to me.

Agreed. I don't know what exactly it is, since quite a few others seem quite happy with it - and I'm really happy for them! But yeah, I feel like this head sends out the wrong vibe; it has that weird "young guy with wrinkles" thing going on like MP-9's Rodimus face, instead of looking like an actual old 'bot. For a line that's been knocking it out of the park with the headsculpts, it's weird to me that this one would feel so off.

For basic comparison, here's TR Kup's head, a shot of his face from the '86 movie, and what I think is representative of his appearance in the old Marvel comics? (I'm no comics buff so I just did my best.) I think aside from the proportions (why is his face so loooong?), it's the weird giant chin that's throwing everything off...

The expression is most certainly based on the G1 head.



I think the attempt to directly replicate that might have caused some... oddities.

I feel like his whole head is too long, like it was stretched vertically...

WreckerJack wrote:Are there any bots with stats at 20?

Fortress Maximus is the only one. Here's the breakdown (Strength, Speed, Intelligence, FirepowerFireblast):

Fotress Maximus Stats: 10, 10, 10, 10
Cerebros Stat Boosts: 6, 5, 8, 7
Emmissary Stat Boosts: 4, 5, 2, 3

In short, Cerebros gets perfect 10's, combined with Maximus' 10's makes straight 20's.

Alpha Trion does not count as both his base stats and Sovereign's boosts are Infinity.

Terrsolpix wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:Anything that screams G1 Pedacons.

Terrsolpix wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:(Completely off topic) I noticed something on my Liokaiser Drillhorn/Killbison that they have TR pegs

Can you show us pictures with Headmasters/Titan Masters attached?

I'm away right now but when I get back I'll take some. Any requests? I also realized how atrocious the grammar in the original post is

If I nab anything from my local target I'll add that too.

Hello darkness my old friend......

Jokes aside, it seems like they were going to make them compatable, but changed the TR peg size during production of the Brawl mold

Love the colors on this one. They even painted the rims!

Some extra shenanigans too. Very Scientific

Best Kup toy ever. I hope we get an Orion Pax out of this mold.

Why is his helmet gray and his face blue? And not the other way around?

cirrusstratus1 wrote:Why is his helmet gray and his face blue? And not the other way around?

That how his face was on the original G1 toy:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:So either this is a (very elabourate) custom or we're actually getting a Headmaster Arcee.



Eh, I have the Legends version and she's perfect.

I think it's a custom. The Headmaster doesn't look like the ones Hasbro designs because of the huge backpack and too long neck. And there's no cockpit for it to fit into in vehicle mode. And it looks like we'll get a Titanmaster Arcee: Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tr ... d0bd0167o0
It could be but look at the generations arcee and then this one
But all aside it does look possible but not for the cockpit bucause it does not look like the headmaster can fit in there

NovamusPrime3 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:So either this is a (very elabourate) custom or we're actually getting a Headmaster Arcee.



Eh, I have the Legends version and she's perfect.

I think it's a custom. The Headmaster doesn't look like the ones Hasbro designs because of the huge backpack and too long neck. And there's no cockpit for it to fit into in vehicle mode. And it looks like we'll get a Titanmaster Arcee: Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tr ... d0bd0167o0
It could be but look at the generations arcee and then this one
But all aside it does look possible but not for the cockpit bucause it does not look like the headmaster can fit in there

Sorry to rain on y'alls parade but this is the igear version

Cowboy Beevis21 wrote:

NovamusPrime3 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:So either this is a (very elabourate) custom or we're actually getting a Headmaster Arcee.



Eh, I have the Legends version and she's perfect.

I think it's a custom. The Headmaster doesn't look like the ones Hasbro designs because of the huge backpack and too long neck. And there's no cockpit for it to fit into in vehicle mode. And it looks like we'll get a Titanmaster Arcee: Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tr ... d0bd0167o0
It could be but look at the generations arcee and then this one
But all aside it does look possible but not for the cockpit bucause it does not look like the headmaster can fit in there

Sorry to rain on y'alls parade but this is the igear version

Thanks for clearing it up for a second I thought it was true

NovamusPrime3 wrote:

Cowboy Beevis21 wrote:

NovamusPrime3 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:So either this is a (very elabourate) custom or we're actually getting a Headmaster Arcee.



Eh, I have the Legends version and she's perfect.

I think it's a custom. The Headmaster doesn't look like the ones Hasbro designs because of the huge backpack and too long neck. And there's no cockpit for it to fit into in vehicle mode. And it looks like we'll get a Titanmaster Arcee: Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tr ... d0bd0167o0
It could be but look at the generations arcee and then this one
But all aside it does look possible but not for the cockpit bucause it does not look like the headmaster can fit in there

Sorry to rain on y'alls parade but this is the igear version

Thanks for clearing it up for a second I thought it was true

To reiterate: a Titans Return Arcee is rumored, but she's been placed in the Titan Master Class, meaning it's just the smaller figure with a vehicle accessory. My guess is she'll be a retool of Loudmouth, given the car accessory he comes with.

Sigma Magnus wrote:I feel like his whole head is too long, like it was stretched vertically...

ehhh...



Much better.

Wow Sill! That is better, and I don't even hate the real thing.

Too bad we can't Photoshop real life.

SillySpringer wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:I feel like his whole head is too long, like it was stretched vertically...

ehhh...



Much better.

Holy slag that makes it a thousand times better.


Well I guess the figure is ruined for me now I'll still get it as is my goal to collect the whole series but this will probably be the first deluxe I will be meh with but I don't have a Kup and I'm not going to probably be able to buy the big $200 set.

Cowboytron wrote:Wow Sill! That is better, and I don't even hate the real thing.

Too bad we can't Photoshop real life.

Haha, trueness. I do wonder why this head design is so strangely long since the Titan Master heads are normally more squarish.