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News Credits: 4873 · by **william-james88** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:35 pm

Continuing with new galleries for War for Cybertron SIEGE, we now bring you galleries for Battle Masters Blowpipe, Firedrive and Lionizer. These little guys are at the core of the line since they provide both the firepower and blast effects for you to recreate the War for Cybertron. Each effect can be added to the weapon to simulate it firing or it can be used creatively across your bots, like to show someone getting shot or even simulate the speed of the small Micromaster cars (Lionizer's effect is perfect for that).

While the Battle Masters are meant as a recreation of the Target Masters (all of these being new molds and not rereleases of Takara's recent offering of Target Masters), Hasbro uses this size class to bring back other aspects of this line's history such as Lionizer who is a modern version of the transforming accessory that came with the Action Master Rad. You can see a comparison between the two below.

Clicking on any of the following images will bring you to the full gallery of each Battle Master, enjoy!

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Blowpipe (150 images) - Battle Masters

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Firedrive (162 images) - Battle Masters

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Lionizer (88 images) - Battle Masters

by **Combat Zero** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:50 pm

william-james88 wrote:Continuing with new galleries for War for Cybertron SIEGE, we now bring you galleries for Battle Masters Blowpipe, Firedrive and Lionizer. These little guys are at the core of the line since they provide both the firepower and blast effects for you to recreate the War for Cybertron. Each effect can be added to the weapon to simulate it firing or it can be used creatively across your bots, like to show someone getting shot or even simulate the speed of the small Micromaster cars (Lionizer's effect is perfect for that).

While the Battle Masters are meant as a recreation of the Target Masters (all of these being new molds and not rereleases of Takara's recent offering of Target Masters), Hasbro uses this size class to bring back other aspects of this line's history such as Lionizer who is a modern version of the transforming accessory that came with the Action Master Rad. You can see a comparison between the two below.

Clicking on any of the following images will bring you to the full gallery of each Battle Master, enjoy!

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Blowpipe (150 images) - Battle Masters

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Firedrive (162 images) - Battle Masters

War for Cybertron: SIEGE Lionizer (88 images) - Battle Masters

I'm liking the slash effect on Lionizer.

News Credits: 2 · by **Verno** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:14 pm

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:14 pm

Hmm... Not sure if 'rumor' is correct, you might want to edit the title. These are more like your theories. Some sound theories, and I won't shrug them off, but when it comes to stuff like this, it's always best to either wait for official word or at least see some leaked concrete evidence, such as some beast figures. The listing for WFC Cheetor is as close as we got, without actually seeing the figure.

News Credits: 7 · by **TulioDude** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:26 pm

Nice work rounding up all this information!

The brand has been very G1 focused in the last few years,so seeing in those interviews that the Hasbro team acknowledges the other series is great to see.
Let's hope to see this action in the next months!

Day 185 of waiting for the Transformers Armada toy rumors.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:38 pm

You make some good points (others have picked up on the kingdom possibility) but you do reach for a few things towards the end, like God Neptune which is completely a Takara initiative. The best evidence is the listing for Cheetor, just as Rodimus Prime pointed out. Also about the movie... I think we'll be continuing to wait for a while yet.

News Credits: 2 · by **Verno** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:25 pm

Last week, there was a post by a user on a different board hinting that the word Kingdom would be used as the name of WFC Part 3, and that it would include Beast Wars figures. Lo and behold, this week, that very word appears as an Easter Egg on the promotional artwork for the WFC TV show.

That's not speculation. We're into rumor territory now.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:03 pm

third part will have the powerfull beast in deluxe form known as Dogmink, half dog half mink. Fuzors confirmed.

That or Modking -a planet sized planet eater that looks suspiciously like unicron but is titan sized/priced so that those who paid for the haslab Unicron dont feel hard done by.

kidding aside I doubt Cheetor will be the only beastwars figure in the third part, might even see some beastmachines.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:11 pm

Or maybe it'll just be a reissue of the 2008 Cheetor toy.

...Nah, I'm joking. It's not C.O.M.B.A.T. compatible, after all.

News Credits: 461 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:20 pm

Next year is also the 35th anniversary of TFTM.

Beast Wars and TFTM share anniversary years since Beast Wars came out during the tenth anniversary of TFTM.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:35 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:kidding aside I doubt Cheetor will be the only beastwars figure in the third part, might even see some beastmachines.

Cheetor would hardly be the first figure in a line to tease the theme of the next line. Combiner Wars Buzzsaw previewed Titans Return, while must of the last wave for Siege was intended for Earthrise (though that's a little underwhelming since WFC is about story themes, not play themes like Prime Wars).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Or maybe it'll just be a reissue of the 2008 Cheetor toy.

...Nah, I'm joking. It's not C.O.M.B.A.T. compatible, after all.

Good thing, it's a pretty crappy figure anyway. Plus it wasn't designed by Warden or part of a line he headed so he wouldn't reuse it. I wonder if he would retool T30 Sky-Byte into a WfC compatible Cybershark, or tweak Optimal Optimus at all?

Emerje

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 pm

Yeah, I'm well aware Universe (2008) Cheetor is a crappy figure. :-D

That's why I picked the stupid thing for my joke.

News Credits: 461 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:36 pm

The word "kingdom" doesn't necessarily refer to just animals. It can also mean something like...

A king.

News Credits: 2 · by **Verno** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:47 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The word "kingdom" doesn't necessarily refer to just animals. It can also mean something like...

A king.

This is bad comedy.

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:25 pm

As fantastic as it would be, I'm not really expecting much Beast Wars in War for Cybertron Part 3, I think it'll just be the Deluxe Cheetor and maybe at a stretch Tigatron or even Shadow Panther in Selects. Even then, I'm mentally preparing myself for the Deluxe Cheetor just being a Cybertronian vehicle mode version that's a low energy repaint of a mould from Seige. I hope I'm wrong of course.

News Credits: 2 · by **Verno** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:55 pm

More listings of TF:TM characters in SS.

More room for Beast Wars characters in WFC3.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:55 pm

In addition to a bunch of Beast Wars stuff, one of the things that the leaker on TFW2005 mentioned was a Leader Slag with Daniel set. Well, guess what just got leaked via a Walmart listing?

Beast Wars is back on the menu, boys

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:15 pm

Here's a summary of the leaks courtesy of TFW2005's Jtprime17.

News Credits: 461 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:22 pm

Embedding:

Basically the original source said all the following.

WFC 3 will be called Kingdom

The story line will be about the Autobots and Decepticons meeting the Maximals and Predacons via time travel.

So far the only BW characters included in the mainline that they saw were S1 characters

Micromasters are being cut for a new Size class called the “Core class”. It includes smaller figures of some big named G1 characters like Optimus and Megatron but also smaller characters like Rattrap and “Fossilizers”

“Fossilizers” are the new Weaponizers of the line. An example they used is that Of one being a Dinosaur that can be used as bone armor.

They also noted that Part 3’s titan and commander class figures weren’t BW related characters.

specific figures they mentioned.

Core class:
Optimus Prime
Megatron
Rattrap

Deluxe:
Cheetor
Airazor

Voyager:
Dinobot
Optimus Primal
G1 Inferno

Leader:
BW Megatron
Rodimus Prime with Trailer

Than they moved on to studio series and said the following figures we’re coming from the 86 Movie.

Voyager:
Scourge
Hot Rod

Leader:
Slag with Daniel

They also talked about some of their accessories specifically for Voyager Hot Rod and Deluxe Kup.

Kup comes with some energon goodies

Hot Rod comes with his Saw blade and a Flip down visor.

There may have been more that I missed.

We’ll have to wait and see if the rest plays out true.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:34 pm

Pro tip: don’t expect the Kingdom stuff at SDCC. That’ll probably be for ER wave 4 and Studio Series, with Kingdom being saved for NYCC (if it happens).

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:26 am

Addendum with the stuff Jtprime missed in his catch-all post:
-BW Scorponok was seen by the leaker, price point/size class was not mentioned
-Fossilizers are confirmed to be present in both the Core and Deluxe classes
-G1 Inferno is a retool of ER Grapple, not a new mold for WFC 3 (arguably a given)
-No G1 Insecticons/Deluxe Insecticons seen in the first 2 waves
-Potential Slammer retool coming, no mention of what mold it's retooled from

News Credits: 2 · by **Verno** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:27 am

Which TF news site will be the first to do an article about it all...

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:53 am

Sabrblade wrote:Embedding:
Basically the original source said all the following.

WFC 3 will be called Kingdom

The story line will be about the Autobots and Decepticons meeting the Maximals and Predacons via time travel.

So far the only BW characters included in the mainline that they saw were S1 characters

Micromasters are being cut for a new Size class called the “Core class”. It includes smaller figures of some big named G1 characters like Optimus and Megatron but also smaller characters like Rattrap and “Fossilizers”

“Fossilizers” are the new Weaponizers of the line. An example they used is that Of one being a Dinosaur that can be used as bone armor.

They also noted that Part 3’s titan and commander class figures weren’t BW related characters.

specific figures they mentioned.

Core class:
Optimus Prime
Megatron
Rattrap

Deluxe:
Cheetor
Airazor

Voyager:
Dinobot
Optimus Primal
G1 Inferno

Leader:
BW Megatron
Rodimus Prime with Trailer

Than they moved on to studio series and said the following figures we’re coming from the 86 Movie.

Voyager:
Scourge
Hot Rod

Leader:
Slag with Daniel

They also talked about some of their accessories specifically for Voyager Hot Rod and Deluxe Kup.

Kup comes with some energon goodies

Hot Rod comes with his Saw blade and a Flip down visor.

There may have been more that I missed.

We’ll have to wait and see if the rest plays out true.

This would all be absolutely fantastic if true. While I'll probably hold on to my Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Waspinator and Rhinox because they all still hold up as excellent toys today, I'm absolutely down for a Deluxe Airazor and Voyager Dinobot.The Fossilizer idea sounds cool too, but I never bought any of the Seige or Earthrise Weaponizers, so unless they look really good I doubt I'll buy these either.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:16 am

Rattrap

Deluxe:
Cheetor
Airazor

Voyager:
Dinobot
Optimus Primal

Leader:
BW Megatron

This list is baffling. So I'm inclined to take it with a pinch of salt. So celebrating the BW anniversary equates to One Predacon and five Maximals? The inclusion of Airazor, one of the most unpopular characters, over Rhinox, Waspinator, Tarantulas etc adds to me scepticism.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:46 am

That's likely not the full line up, besides it's being touted as a time travel adventure where Rodimus and friends meets Primal and friends. When you factor in exclusives there's a lot of space to bring in more beast wars