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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 11:31 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:There's also the rumor we've had of Marvel colors Soundwave floating around for like a year now, no clue if anything's happening with that if this tease is indeed the last of the capsule.
IIRC, that was more wishful thinking regarding the Leader class Soundwave.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue May 14, 2024 11:33 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Straxus's box art gives us a tiny glimpse at who the fourth and final Marvel Comics-inspired figure will be, and it's someone who has yellow hands and maybe red arms?

At first I was thinking Blaster since he'd be Straxus's rival, but nope, Blaster had blue hands in the comics.

They basically said it was something surprising that they hadn't done before and the team was shocked they were making. Bmac did say "we're adding nice new bots to the line with that final offering" so it might actually a multipack! They said the reveal would include a special guest next month (Simon Furman?).

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Hero Alpha » Tue May 14, 2024 11:35 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Straxus's box art gives us a tiny glimpse at who the fourth and final Marvel Comics-inspired figure will be, and it's someone who has yellow hands and maybe red arms?

At first I was thinking Blaster since he'd be Straxus's rival, but nope, Blaster had blue hands in the comics.


I first thought the Velocitron Hot Rod that didnt get released, but prolly wont be. Then I thought maybe its Flame. Not sure though.

Since they were using box art, that Soundwave has new forearms in it w/o Siege stuff.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 11:36 am

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Apparently, a new rumor has surfaced saying it's a two-pack containing Xaaron and Flame, who I guess would be two Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue May 14, 2024 11:39 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:I can't tell any differences between Metalhawk in that art and the already-released version?

Since he's going to be toy accurate I'm guessing he'll be more metallic gold instead of the more yellow one we got among other little differences.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue May 14, 2024 12:34 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:There's also the rumor we've had of Marvel colors Soundwave floating around for like a year now, no clue if anything's happening with that if this tease is indeed the last of the capsule.
IIRC, that was more wishful thinking regarding the Leader class Soundwave.
There was some of that, yeah, but I could have sworn that started because the individual who first leaked/described last year's IDW Miner Megatron also said they saw a purple Soundwave around that same time, and thusly when mystery Soundwave listing popped up some of us said "oh, so that's where that went".

Hero Alpha wrote:Since they were using box art, that Soundwave has new forearms in it w/o Siege stuff.
I think that's just reused art from the Core class SW box, so not necessarily.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:37 pm

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If they do Blaster and Soundwave it'll be in a future wave since they said they want to continue the line

They said the next release is super out there and surprising and that they'd be adding new bots to the collection. So it's not one of the basic characters they always do. Idk who flame and xaaron are but that makes the most sense
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm

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Straxus looks awesome! The face sculpt in particular is great. No head in a jar accessory though? What a missed opportunity.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Tue May 14, 2024 12:51 pm

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Actually shocked the stream managed to reveal things we had not seen yet. That's definitely surprising.

Anyway,

Steeljaw looks pretty good. Might just have to get Blaster just so I have a reason to get Steeljaw.

How does the retooled grunt manage to look better in both modes than the actual character Barricade he's based off of?

Springer looks outstanding. Tons of accessories to pad out the Leader Price. but yeah the modifications to Siege actually improve him a lot.

So, not Netflix BB, but yet another new BB mold. not sure how I feel about it. Hasbro to all those Bee collectors out there: "You wanna get nuts.... let's get. nuts!". How many different g1 bee molds have we seen in the last 3 years? 7? Not even counting movie bees or gamer bees.

Straxus is fantastic. That robot mode, it's hard to tell he's a Galvatron retool, but honestly that's the only thing he could have been. Nice tease for the 4th Comic series character there.

From the space bridge, I think all I'm really looking forward to, is that Deluxe G1 Prime, and the Leader Soundwave, which should come in with a few of his tape guys to fill in that leader price. So glad they are finally releasing the Netflix retool. But that just makes it stranger that they don't re-release Netflix BB.

A shiny gold Metalhawk might be nice. We'll see.

Galvatron we already knew about. I may get him once he's discounted. I'm fairly sure, he's not that popular of a character outside of Armada die hard fans./
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue May 14, 2024 2:37 pm

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Quakes the only thing of interest to me, I might have considered Slipstream but if it isnt a female starscream then not for me regardless if i don't want to be paying the prices her other figures cost. Straxus is looking great in bot mode but I dont want him to have any similarities with galvatron so I'll stick with my old deluxe.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue May 14, 2024 3:42 pm

Overcracker wrote:

From the space bridge, I think all I'm really looking forward to, is that Deluxe G1 Prime, and the Leader Soundwave, which should come in with a few of his tape guys to fill in that leader price. So glad they are finally releasing the Netflix retool. But that just makes it stranger that they don't re-release Netflix BB.


I honestly think it simply has to do with the licensing involved to re-use the VW mold, especially if they are going to want to repaint/retool the hell out of it. New mold with much more repaint potential and not having to pay VW seems pretty smart on their part.
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Re: Hasbro Confirms Upcoming Legacy Figures with Package Art During Livestream

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 14, 2024 3:57 pm

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Emerje wrote:Deluxe Class Quake (appears to have two transforming Targetmaster partners ala Needlenose)


He's a retool of Skullgrin and those are just either a recolor or a variation on Skullgrin's accessories.
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Re: Hasbro Confirms Upcoming Legacy Figures with Package Art During Livestream

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 4:06 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Deluxe Class Quake (appears to have two transforming Targetmaster partners ala Needlenose)


He's a retool of Skullgrin and those are just either a recolor or a variation on Skullgrin's accessories.
No, those are definitely the same guns that came with Needlenose.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue May 14, 2024 4:24 pm

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Soooo

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What do you want to talk about?

That deluxe Prime looks good, that should've been the Hot Wheels crossover.

I don't see Skullgrin in Quake, this will be interesting.

Repaints are repaints, if you like them, yay!

I hope that Soundwave is everything we've been hoping for, no Siege bits, maybe a better blaster, throw in that double tape door from Soundblaster and we'll be good. If they do a SS86 release after this there will be BLODD!
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue May 14, 2024 4:28 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:f they do a SS86 release after this there will be BLODD!
Of course they will. Soundwave was a prominent character in the movie, and we already got Rumble and Frenzy.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue May 14, 2024 5:30 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:f they do a SS86 release after this there will be BLODD!
Of course they will. Soundwave was a prominent character in the movie, and we already got Rumble and Frenzy.


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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 5:46 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:f they do a SS86 release after this there will be BLODD!
Of course they will. Soundwave was a prominent character in the movie,
Was he, though? He only had four lines in four different scenes:

"As you command, Megatron."
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And only briefly appeared in one more scene afterward (Starscream's botched coronation) as a silent cameo.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue May 14, 2024 6:26 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Quakes the only thing of interest to me, I might have considered Slipstream but if it isnt a female starscream then not for me regardless if i don't want to be paying the prices her other figures cost. Straxus is looking great in bot mode but I dont want him to have any similarities with galvatron so I'll stick with my old deluxe.

The new tooling is actually pretty accurate to the comic design.

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Razorbeast88 wrote:If they do Blaster and Soundwave it'll be in a future wave since they said they want to continue the line

They said the next release is super out there and surprising and that they'd be adding new bots to the collection. So it's not one of the basic characters they always do. Idk who flame and xaaron are but that makes the most sense

They made it sound like the next one is the final one, but they also made it sound like there might be more than one figure thanks to Bmac's possible slip of the tongue.

I doubt we'll be seeing a new mold Soundwave next year since the Leader will still be available next year and likely even get another run in the next line. New Studio Series 86 Soundwave in 2026 for the 40th anniversary of the movie is my guess.

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Overcracker wrote:

From the space bridge, I think all I'm really looking forward to, is that Deluxe G1 Prime, and the Leader Soundwave, which should come in with a few of his tape guys to fill in that leader price. So glad they are finally releasing the Netflix retool. But that just makes it stranger that they don't re-release Netflix BB.


I honestly think it simply has to do with the licensing involved to re-use the VW mold, especially if they are going to want to repaint/retool the hell out of it. New mold with much more repaint potential and not having to pay VW seems pretty smart on their part.

I have no doubt in my mind that he'll be licensed. Hasbro is very keen to keep a good relationship with VW, to the point that they put the VW logo on the back of the reissue Bumblebee figure a few years ago and this is basically an updated version of that. Heck, Missing Link Bumblebee is being touted by Takara Tomy as an officially licensed VW product, but the same isn't said about Cliffjumper. In fact they point out that CJ is 80% the same as Bee as if explaining why they didn't need to license it.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 7:28 pm

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Okay, there's another new rumor in the mill.

In addition to the rumor about final fourth Marvel set being a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, this new rumor specifies that Flame might be made from the Studio Series Gamer Edition Megatron mold.

If true, then I guess the box will be bigger than the others if one of the two figures in the set is a Voyager.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue May 14, 2024 7:38 pm

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So who else spent hours today pouring through TFWiki trying to figure out who the mystery Comic Edition is? Only guy that came close that I could find is this dude, but he's from IDW not Marvel:

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Have they ever said that these have to be from Marvel comics? I do agree that Flame makes the most sense, but the colors aren't in the right places (his hands aren't yellow).

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Other ideas is a (couble) Unicron cultists but with more colors to break up the all gold and Marvel Primus, but again the colors are right but not in the right spots.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 14, 2024 7:40 pm

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Emerje wrote:So who else spent hours today pouring through TFWiki trying to figure out who the mystery Comic Edition is? Only guy that came close that I could find is this dude, but he's from IDW not Marvel:
See the post direct above yours.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue May 14, 2024 8:13 pm

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Emerje wrote:So who else spent hours today pouring through TFWiki trying to figure out who the mystery Comic Edition is? Only guy that came close that I could find is this dude, but he's from IDW not Marvel:
See the post direct above yours.

You snuck that in while I was typing. ;)

So far all of the boxes have been roughly the same size and two of them contain rather large Leaders. SSGE Megatron doesn't take up a whole lot of space so I could see them fitting him into the same space in the box as Shockwave and Deluxe in the same space as the whole OP head display. No real reason to change the size of the box. Of course we're assuming Xaaron transforms at all and isn't a non-transforming figure with minimum articulation.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed May 15, 2024 1:14 am

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It's a very long shot, but what about Death's Head? Even though he doesn't have red on his upper body like that. Or does copyright by Marvel prevent him getting a figure?

The more I look at that small detail the more I'm convinced that it's Rodimus, most likely without the trailer, or a comic deco of the previous SS86 Hot Rod, still called Rodimus, along with a deluxe of someone if it's indeed a 2-pack. That Hot Rod is small enough to fit into a leader-sized box with another deluxe figure, but the voyager price point and a deluxe price point together keep it at the $55-60 range.

Weren't we supposed to get a toy-colored version of that mold anyway, and it was canceled? Maybe they did him like they did Hound, and instead of actually canceling him they just put him in a set instead of released him by himself.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Wed May 15, 2024 3:39 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Weren't we supposed to get a toy-colored version of that mold anyway, and it was canceled? Maybe they did him like they did Hound, and instead of actually canceling him they just put him in a set instead of released him by himself.

Hot Rod was supposed to be a Walmart exclusive and, unlike Target exclusives, those things get locked down so we'll likely never see it unless they can convince Walmart to use it later.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed May 15, 2024 8:30 am

Emerje wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:

From the space bridge, I think all I'm really looking forward to, is that Deluxe G1 Prime, and the Leader Soundwave, which should come in with a few of his tape guys to fill in that leader price. So glad they are finally releasing the Netflix retool. But that just makes it stranger that they don't re-release Netflix BB.


I honestly think it simply has to do with the licensing involved to re-use the VW mold, especially if they are going to want to repaint/retool the hell out of it. New mold with much more repaint potential and not having to pay VW seems pretty smart on their part.

I have no doubt in my mind that he'll be licensed. Hasbro is very keen to keep a good relationship with VW, to the point that they put the VW logo on the back of the reissue Bumblebee figure a few years ago and this is basically an updated version of that. Heck, Missing Link Bumblebee is being touted by Takara Tomy as an officially licensed VW product, but the same isn't said about Cliffjumper. In fact they point out that CJ is 80% the same as Bee as if explaining why they didn't need to license it.

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Except we have already seen the packaging on SS86-29 Bee and there is no licensing. I don't think Hasbro's relationship with VW has much to do with it rather $$$ and not wanting to be stuck having to license every use of the mold. No licensing requirement means more profit for themselves. The new mold also looks less like a VW Beetle than even the missing link figure, so they can defintely get away without the licensing.
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