Rodimus Prime wrote:I wouldn't say Menasor is the worst, the limb bots are just fine. It's Motormaster's torso mode that completely ruins it in CW.
Absolutely. They should have thought it through better. But I guess that was the most cost effective way. They made hands and feet for Computron, Victorion and the Japanese releases though. But I guess that's Takara, who don't mind bumping up the prices a bit for a higher quality product.Burn wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I wouldn't say Menasor is the worst, the limb bots are just fine. It's Motormaster's torso mode that completely ruins it in CW.
And the feet. Those hand/feet pieces, while I like the idea of them, the execution was just terrible. They were just too small.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Absolutely. They should have thought it through better. But I guess that was the most cost effective way. They made hands and feet for Computron, Victorion and the Japanese releases though. But I guess that's Takara, who don't mind bumping up the prices a bit for a higher quality product.Burn wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I wouldn't say Menasor is the worst, the limb bots are just fine. It's Motormaster's torso mode that completely ruins it in CW.
And the feet. Those hand/feet pieces, while I like the idea of them, the execution was just terrible. They were just too small.
Well to each our own, to me they were acceptable has hands only and too small and inarticulate as feet. They didn't support the weight of the combiner and also limited poseability.MaximalNui wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Absolutely. They should have thought it through better. But I guess that was the most cost effective way. They made hands and feet for Computron, Victorion and the Japanese releases though. But I guess that's Takara, who don't mind bumping up the prices a bit for a higher quality product.Burn wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I wouldn't say Menasor is the worst, the limb bots are just fine. It's Motormaster's torso mode that completely ruins it in CW.
And the feet. Those hand/feet pieces, while I like the idea of them, the execution was just terrible. They were just too small.
I personally feel the opposite: those pieces are fine as feet, but as hands they look too big and ape-ish. That sort of look fits the more brutish Devastator, but for some reason I don't think it fits Scramble-type combiners at all. I feel they should be closer to the head in size, maybe only slightly bigger to look stronger.
Rodimus Prime wrote:If we're talking overall design, lack of uniformity in color can be applied to a lot of them. Devastator is pretty much the only one that actually looks like 1 single bot after combination. I do agree though, I also would like to see all members of a gestalt team the same color.
For me, he's borderline, I guess. The Preds are more or less uniform, but they do have deviations in deco. When I cited Devy, I meant completely uniform. They're all green, with very small parts of purple sprinkled in. AFAIK no other gestalt has that.MaximalNui wrote:What about Predaking? The G1 Predacons also had quite an uniform color scheme between the whole team, if I remember.
Rodimus Prime wrote:For me, he's borderline, I guess. The Preds are more or less uniform, but they do have deviations in deco. When I cited Devy, I meant completely uniform. They're all green, with very small parts of purple sprinkled in. AFAIK no other gestalt has that.MaximalNui wrote:What about Predaking? The G1 Predacons also had quite an uniform color scheme between the whole team, if I remember.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:For me, he's borderline, I guess. The Preds are more or less uniform, but they do have deviations in deco. When I cited Devy, I meant completely uniform. They're all green, with very small parts of purple sprinkled in. AFAIK no other gestalt has that.MaximalNui wrote:What about Predaking? The G1 Predacons also had quite an uniform color scheme between the whole team, if I remember.
Volcanicus, mostly silver with gold and red accents... then there's Swoop as the blue arm
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
So, with that out of the way. Let's talk about Broadside...
Bless Dreamwave for giving possibly the only decent image of the unfortunate Triple Changer. Otherwise...
He just...
...doesn't...
Well yes, the scale is terrible, Broadside transforms into his own carrier.
But it could be slightly better if he turns into a boat and a small jet or a giant bomber and a carrier
...Work!
Also kudos to High Moon studios, ala Fall of Cybertron for trying to address the elephant in the room:
In concept, Broadside works. But, as we've all discussed many times, the scale is all wrong. Not even scaling in terms of his contemporaries. But as a Triple Changer. Most iterations, the "jet" (being charitable with the description) is the weakest link. But the Bot Mode normally isn't much better. When your best mode is essentially a flat topped ship. A bit more time in the design room was probably needed.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Well yes, the scale is terrible, Broadside transforms into his own carrier.
But it could be slightly better if he turns into a boat and a small jet or a giant bomber and a carrier
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Well yes, the scale is terrible, Broadside transforms into his own carrier.
But it could be slightly better if he turns into a boat and a small jet or a giant bomber and a carrier
Without altering his altmodes. Broadside (as alluded to by High Moon) could have worked as a Titan. As a City Bot, unlike Metroplex and Fort Max, with three distinct modes. More mass would have led to a jet that actually looks like it could fly and a carrier that can actually carry other bots. Also there would even be redeco potential (Modulator-style) with the Micromasters, Flattop/Skywave:
Evil Eye wrote:I think one worth mentioning independent of Menasor (who has already been mentioned) is Dragstrip. His cartoon model is just straight-up a cheese man. I actually liked the CW one adding that burgundy/wine red colour for some breakup.
MaximalNui wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If we're talking overall design, lack of uniformity in color can be applied to a lot of them. Devastator is pretty much the only one that actually looks like 1 single bot after combination. I do agree though, I also would like to see all members of a gestalt team the same color.
What about Predaking? The G1 Predacons also had quite an uniform color scheme between the whole team, if I remember...
Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention the greatest example of "quantity isn't quality" for gimmicks:
Armada Side Swipe!
Even the Mini-Con looks weird.
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