Va'al wrote:There is discussion, just not front page news!
mbd88prime wrote:i think its a combination of simply thinking that only a product that is licensed as a "transformer" can be called a transformer and to stay on Hasbro's good side for whatever reason. I know that third party news used to be on the "front page" on seibertron.com (click on my news credit for proof)which is where my staying on Hasbro's good side idea comes from. if it was just the licensing idea wouldn't seibertron have never let any third party news be posted from the get go [of third parties]?
anyway its annoying as seibertron.com used to be my favorite news site and seems to be still the best at reporting what it does, however now I prefer tfw2005 and tformers as they give all news including third parties.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Rated X wrote:Just because somebody did it first doesnt mean they do it best. I say bring it back to the front page. If Hasbro really monitors this site, they can learn alot from 3rd parties. When highly anticipated 3rd party figurds are about to be released, Hasbro products become an afterthought.
Autobot032 wrote:Rated X wrote:Just because somebody did it first doesnt mean they do it best. I say bring it back to the front page. If Hasbro really monitors this site, they can learn alot from 3rd parties. When highly anticipated 3rd party figurds are about to be released, Hasbro products become an afterthought.
Hasbro doesn't care about 3rd parties. Their focus is kids and simplifying their product. 3rd Party goes in the complete opposite direction and just isn't a workable method for Hasbro.
In other parts of the world, children seem to be more apt to handle a higher level of complexity (we've dumbed out children down TOO far, I feel) and we also have ridiculously strict toy safety laws. Hasbro can take some design cues, get some ideas, but that's the long and short of it.
It is what it is, and no one can really do much about it.
Burn wrote:3rd party stuff are NOT Transformers. If you were to front page 3rd party stuff then you may as well front page Robotech, Gundam, and any news relating to franchises that have transforming robots/mecha in them.
It's that simple.
Burn wrote:3rd party stuff are NOT Transformers. If you were to front page 3rd party stuff then you may as well front page Robotech, Gundam, and any news relating to franchises that have transforming robots/mecha in them.
It's that simple.
Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:3rd party stuff are NOT Transformers. If you were to front page 3rd party stuff then you may as well front page Robotech, Gundam, and any news relating to franchises that have transforming robots/mecha in them.
It's that simple.
Without getting into the politics, I would like to point out that fan websites with sponsers are 3rd parties. If Money is being made from Hasbro IP without an official Hasbro license, then you are a 3rd party company. Only difference is you're selling advertising space instead of toys. Youre selling the advertising space to sponsers who want transformer fans to see their ads. A profit is being made and none of it goes to Hasbro. If this website was official, it Wouldn't be spelled "Seibertron". It would be spelled Cybertron. I laugh every time someone on the podcast pronounces it as "Sabertron". They are really taking legalities to the extreme. I dont want to offend anyone because I love this site. But its kind of crazy how one unofficial entity can denounce another for using Hasbro IP to make a profit.
Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:3rd party stuff are NOT Transformers. If you were to front page 3rd party stuff then you may as well front page Robotech, Gundam, and any news relating to franchises that have transforming robots/mecha in them.
It's that simple.
Without getting into the politics, I would like to point out that fan websites with sponsers are 3rd parties. If Money is being made from Hasbro IP without an official Hasbro license, then you are a 3rd party company. Only difference is you're selling advertising space instead of toys. Youre selling the advertising space to sponsers who want transformer fans to see their ads. A profit is being made and none of it goes to Hasbro. If this website was official, it Wouldn't be spelled "Seibertron". It would be spelled Cybertron. I laugh every time someone on the podcast pronounces it as "Sabertron". They are really taking legalities to the extreme. I dont want to offend anyone because I love this site. But its kind of crazy how one unofficial entity can denounce another for using Hasbro IP to make a profit.
So a business selling advertising space makes it a 3rd party?
Keep stretching ...
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"Seibertron" = "セイバートロン" = "Say-ber-tron"Rated X wrote:If this website was official, it Wouldn't be spelled "Seibertron". It would be spelled Cybertron. I laugh every time someone on the podcast pronounces it as "Sabertron".
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:"Seibertron" = "セイバートロン" = "Say-ber-tron"Rated X wrote:If this website was official, it Wouldn't be spelled "Seibertron". It would be spelled Cybertron. I laugh every time someone on the podcast pronounces it as "Sabertron".
"Cybertron" = "サイバトロン" = "Sigh-ber-tron"
The name of this website is the 1984-2007 Japanese name of Planet Cybertron. It is supposed to be spoken as "Say-ber-tron", so the podcast guys have been saying correctly all along.
Sabrblade wrote:"Seibertron" = "セイバートロン" = "Say-ber-tron"Rated X wrote:If this website was official, it Wouldn't be spelled "Seibertron". It would be spelled Cybertron. I laugh every time someone on the podcast pronounces it as "Sabertron".
"Cybertron" = "サイバトロン" = "Sigh-ber-tron"
The name of this website is the 1984-2007 Japanese name of Planet Cybertron. It is supposed to be spoken as "Say-ber-tron", so the podcast guys have been saying correctly all along.
El Duque wrote:He doesn't hate third-parties at all, in fact he rather enjoys observing them, he just prefers not to own or directly promote them anymore. I know Seibertron personally, we've traveled across the country to various events together and discussed and looked at third-party figures together. He appreciates the engineering and homages, but ultimately they are just transforming toys to him, and not "Transformers".
In the beginning there were just a handful of third-party companies and they mainly produced kits to upgrade existing Has/Tak figures, and we frontpaged them. Little did we know how the third-party market would explode, and things quickly snowballed. If you to BBTS and check out their full listing of third-party manufacturers there are over 50! It got to be overwhelming both figuratively and literally. Official news would get lost in a sea of third-party updates. After many staff discussions we finally decided enough was enough, and pulled the plug on third-party news. Frankly I was disappointed with the decision, as I really enjoy third-party figures, and own a ton of them! However, I did understand why the decision was being made, accepted it, and moved on.
I can also assure you that the decision was not based on any communication from Has/Tak. There was absolutely no pressure or even a friendly request from them to drop third-party. We get no product directly from Hasbro, Seibertron has to go out and hustle for figures and pay for them just like everyone else.
njb902 wrote:Most of the mods resigned? Am I missing something?
njb902 wrote:Most of the mods resigned? Am I missing something?
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