Bounti76 wrote:If this turns out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised. While the episodes I've caught have been pretty decent, the toyline sells like.... well, nothing. It's clogged shelves since it was released.
As to the other point, while the character of Nightshade is fine, rather intolerant people have made a crisis out of a less than 30 second scene where pronouns are explained (the word gender is never mentioned). On a vaguely related note, look at people losing their brain modules over the also non-binary Morph in the X-Men 97 series. Their gender was only ever mentioned in the credits, and as far as I know, their pronouns have only been used once, by Rogue, in the next-to-last episode. The hate that trans and non-binary people face is unreal.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
IME, that's only ever the pretext, never the actual complaint - which is basically always that the character exists at all. The age factor doesn't even make sense as a complaint unless you're conflating identity with sexuality, which is of course the standard rhetorical move precisely because it brings "but think of the children!" into play.william-james88 wrote:At least with Morph, he's from a show that is targeting all ages, as opposed to mainly younger viewers. That's what the whole controversy was about.
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Yeah, this. Paging Bob Budiansky: "What's the point of bringing your alien robots to Earth and then not having them interact with humans?"Deadput wrote:Just because the franchise doesn't "require" humans doesn't mean that humans are a concept bringing down the franchise. ... You just need good writers who can make both humans and Transformers work.
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.First-Aid wrote:To quote Bender: "Hey sexy mama...wanna kill all the humans?"
Yeah, let's just lose all the humans in the next series. I wonder if this is going to be related to Transformers One?
Look, kids aren't dumb. They don't need humans to connect to characters. If the characters are written well, they will connect and identify with them. Take a lesson from the (first) death of Optimus Prime in the 86 movie. The outflow of sorrow and tears from kids was telling...and they didn't need a human to identify with him! They just created an identifiable, kind, wise father figure that kids could look up to. The rest happened naturally. LET THE BOTS RULE.
End of tangental rant.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.First-Aid wrote:To quote Bender: "Hey sexy mama...wanna kill all the humans?"
Yeah, let's just lose all the humans in the next series. I wonder if this is going to be related to Transformers One?
Look, kids aren't dumb. They don't need humans to connect to characters. If the characters are written well, they will connect and identify with them. Take a lesson from the (first) death of Optimus Prime in the 86 movie. The outflow of sorrow and tears from kids was telling...and they didn't need a human to identify with him! They just created an identifiable, kind, wise father figure that kids could look up to. The rest happened naturally. LET THE BOTS RULE.
End of tangental rant.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Sabrblade wrote:If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.
Forgot about this (busy day!) but it sounds very plausible. Even with S2 being produced by Hasbro Entertainment and the Family & Brands dept being folded into Hasbro, I could certainly see cancellation at the changeover point (see also: Clone Wars getting cancelled when Disney bought LFL).o.supreme wrote:If anything, I think it has more to do with the sale of eOne. When Hasbro announced its sale, I thought there may be no S2 of Earthspark. But in truth, probably 2 seasons were agreed upon from the beginning, so eOne is just finishing out a contractual obligation. This happens often in animation, whether a series is popular or not, if whomever is financing the project doesn't wish to order any more episodes, then that's it.
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
You don't have YouTube? That's where it was primarily aired.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.First-Aid wrote:To quote Bender: "Hey sexy mama...wanna kill all the humans?"
Yeah, let's just lose all the humans in the next series. I wonder if this is going to be related to Transformers One?
Look, kids aren't dumb. They don't need humans to connect to characters. If the characters are written well, they will connect and identify with them. Take a lesson from the (first) death of Optimus Prime in the 86 movie. The outflow of sorrow and tears from kids was telling...and they didn't need a human to identify with him! They just created an identifiable, kind, wise father figure that kids could look up to. The rest happened naturally. LET THE BOTS RULE.
End of tangental rant.
Don't have that streaming service and not paying for it. If it comes out on DVD, I'll probably check it out.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:You don't have YouTube? That's where it was primarily aired.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.First-Aid wrote:To quote Bender: "Hey sexy mama...wanna kill all the humans?"
Yeah, let's just lose all the humans in the next series. I wonder if this is going to be related to Transformers One?
Look, kids aren't dumb. They don't need humans to connect to characters. If the characters are written well, they will connect and identify with them. Take a lesson from the (first) death of Optimus Prime in the 86 movie. The outflow of sorrow and tears from kids was telling...and they didn't need a human to identify with him! They just created an identifiable, kind, wise father figure that kids could look up to. The rest happened naturally. LET THE BOTS RULE.
End of tangental rant.
Don't have that streaming service and not paying for it. If it comes out on DVD, I'll probably check it out.
YouTube, and the 6am deadslot on Cartoon Network.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Only after if finished airing each season, just like every other TF cartoon that gets put on Netflix. The only ones that exclusively went to Netflix first were War For Cybertron Trilogy and BotBots.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You don't have YouTube? That's where it was primarily aired.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If you don't want humans, go watch Cyberverse.First-Aid wrote:To quote Bender: "Hey sexy mama...wanna kill all the humans?"
Yeah, let's just lose all the humans in the next series. I wonder if this is going to be related to Transformers One?
Look, kids aren't dumb. They don't need humans to connect to characters. If the characters are written well, they will connect and identify with them. Take a lesson from the (first) death of Optimus Prime in the 86 movie. The outflow of sorrow and tears from kids was telling...and they didn't need a human to identify with him! They just created an identifiable, kind, wise father figure that kids could look up to. The rest happened naturally. LET THE BOTS RULE.
End of tangental rant.
Don't have that streaming service and not paying for it. If it comes out on DVD, I'll probably check it out.
YouTube, and the 6am deadslot on Cartoon Network.
I thought it was on Netflix?
Because the humans in the movies are always written to be the real stars of the films (which we don't want) while the cartoons typically know how to keep the humans confined to supporting roles instead (which is fine).First-Aid wrote:I find it interesting and hypocritical here. In the live movie threads, it's all about "LOSE THE HUMANS! WE DON"T NEED THE HUMANS! MOAR TRANSFORMERS!" THen in THIS thread, it's the opposite.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
But, neither Prime nor Cyberverse ever aired on Nickelodeon.chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just learned this recently with all the drama around Nickelodeon, if a show is going to go 3 or more seasons and thus hit a certain episode count, for the third season they'll change the name to avoid having to pay royalties to the actors and writers. That's why Prime became Beast Hunters and Cyberverse had all those sub-names.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Not just Nickelodeon - this got some discussion around the WGA/SAG-AFTRA strikes, with Netflix being particularly called out at the time IIRC. Seems it's a known tactic by the streamers to get around production crew pay scaling in the standard contracts. (Not saying it's necessarily at issue here.)Sabrblade wrote:But, neither Prime nor Cyberverse ever aired on Nickelodeon.chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just learned this recently with all the drama around Nickelodeon, if a show is going to go 3 or more seasons...
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Solrac333 wrote:Maybe it's canceled because it was a terrible show.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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