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william-james88 wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that, with a little minor repainting, this would make a GREAT Nova Prime?

There has been some speculation that this was maybe what the toy was initially intended to be:

http://tformers.com/combiner-wars-speculation-was-battle-core-optimus-prime-developed-to-be-another-character/27456/news.html

Cool read....thanks for the heads up! The Motormaster chest would have been a nice change for the mold, as Nova Prime, but all it would really take is a few parts swapped and a bit of paint on the "horns" on his head and BAM. CW Nova Prime.

Has anyone noticed hasbrotoyshop.com is down for remodeling? I'm getting a redirect to the following URL: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/coming-soon/

Any speculation to if this means anything cool? Or just a boring site revamp? It is Autobot August still...

Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12172&mode=retail

carytheone wrote:Has anyone noticed hasbrotoyshop.com is down for remodeling? I'm getting a redirect to the following URL: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/coming-soon/

Any speculation to if this means anything cool? Or just a boring site revamp? It is Autobot August still...

I know, it's like they're so on top of things. Releasing the 'autobot august' promotional details halfway through august, and then taking down they're store site (I realize hasbro does not decide what to do with hts, but it still ruins the event)

Cobotron wrote:Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

Yeah, hence why you are paying a 75$ premium on him. He's only 125$ if you have a physical japan adress you can ship him to. Its the same thing as with Defensor, only to a greater extent (I think the premium for him was only 50$)

By the way, I just calculated, any canadian interested in buying this from BBTS would end up paying 340$ total. For an overrated mold, this is a lot of money.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

Yeah, hence why you are paying a 75$ premium on him. He's only 125$ if you have a physical japan adress you can ship him to. Its the same thing as with Defensor, only to a greater extent (I think the premium for him was only 50$)

By the way, I just calculated, any canadian interested in buying this from BBTS would end up paying 340$ total. For an overrated mold, this is a lot of money.

And yet, people will buy it (problems and all) because => G1


Look at all them G1'ers letting has/tak steal their money, if G1 weren't such a thing, I'm sure we would've gotten these years ago for the same price as Acidstorm

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

Yeah, hence why you are paying a 75$ premium on him. He's only 125$ if you have a physical japan adress you can ship him to. Its the same thing as with Defensor, only to a greater extent (I think the premium for him was only 50$)

By the way, I just calculated, any canadian interested in buying this from BBTS would end up paying 340$ total. For an overrated mold, this is a lot of money.

Which is why i haven't gotten skywarp and will not be getting this one either, because he's such a limited release which makes it impossible to get him for a normal price. $ and euro are almost the same currently. Add shipping and the customs fee, and you're upwards of 300 euro for him. Which is ridiculous, because he's not some wonky recolour. He's one of the well-known decepticons which is why i think he should get a regular release, not this limited ****.

Anyway, i'll be hounding HLJ, watching for ironhide's preorder to go up

Hellscream9999 wrote:
And yet, people will buy it (problems and all) because => G1


Look at all them G1'ers letting has/tak steal their money, if G1 weren't such a thing, I'm sure we would've gotten these years ago for the same price as Acidstorm

As with Skywarp, I believe the cost (combined with lack of accessories) will be prehibitive enough that fewer will buy him than bought the original MP 11.

Also, Has/tak is not to blame for this entirely, at least not this time. Hasbro's Masterpiece Seekers are practically the same cost as their Leader figures (thanks to my rain check, they are exactly the same cost) and Takara is not making any extra money on the premium BBTS is charging. The premium goes to second or third party distributors since BBTS cannot buy this directly from Takara since Takara is only ditributing this in southeast Asia and only at one retailer in Japan. Takara is getting as much money from this 200$ Seeker as it would get if you buy it for 125$ and lived in Japan (which I am assuming to be max 60$ in both cases).

wilcosu35 wrote: He's one of the well-known decepticons which is why i think he should get a regular release, not this limited ****.

Thats almost as insane as making one of the standard Combiners exclusive, oh wait!

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
And yet, people will buy it (problems and all) because => G1


Look at all them G1'ers letting has/tak steal their money, if G1 weren't such a thing, I'm sure we would've gotten these years ago for the same price as Acidstorm

As with Skywarp, I believe the cost (combined with lack of accessories) will be prehibitive enough that fewer will buy him than bought the original MP 11.

Also, Has/tak is not to blame for this entirely, at least not this time. Hasbro's Masterpiece Seekers are practically the same cost as their Leader figures (thanks to my rain check, they are exactly the same cost) and Takara is not making any extra money on the premium BBTS is charging. The premium goes to second or third party distributors since BBTS cannot buy this directly from Takara since Takara is only ditributing this in southeast Asia and only at one retailer in Japan. Takara is getting as much money from this 200$ Seeker as it would get if you buy it for 125$ and lived in Japan (which I am assuming to be max 60$ in both cases).

wilcosu35 wrote: He's one of the well-known decepticons which is why i think he should get a regular release, not this limited ****.

Thats almost as insane as making one of the standard Combiners exclusive, oh wait!

I admit that hasbro does not do the 'exclusive' bs like TT, but I'm sure they know what they're doing with the 'G1' fervor; though it is certainly not nearly as blatant as TT (really, all they have to do is release a better mp megatron, it's not rocket science )

Cobotron wrote:Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12172&mode=retail

So what makes this guy unique/cool? Is it just his lovely shade of baby blue?

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey all, MP - 11T Takara Masterpiece Thundercracker just went up for pre-order at BBTS for $199.99.
Isn't this guy a Takara/Tomy Mall exclusive?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12172&mode=retail

So what makes this guy unique/cool? Is it just his lovely shade of baby blue?

That's the biggest difference.

carytheone wrote:So what makes this guy unique/cool? Is it just his lovely shade of baby blue?

It's the MP-11 mold done up as Thundercracker in a deco that's more show-accurate than any other Masterpiece Thundercracker has had.

Well he looks really good, but seems a little pricey to me. Especially considering MP Starscream was just sold for $60.



An speaking of BBTS and the MP line, I just noticed on their front page they have MP-18B Bluestreak in stock now.

Hellscream9999 wrote:And yet, people will buy it (problems and all) because => G1


Look at all them G1'ers letting has/tak steal their money, if G1 weren't such a thing, I'm sure we would've gotten these years ago for the same price as Acidstorm

You may find 'G1ers' annoying, but your near-continuous stream of unprovoked and unsolicited counter-offensives is possibly even more obnoxious.

If G1 weren't a thing, we wouldn't have Transformers in their modern form, period.

carytheone wrote:Well he looks really good, but seems a little pricey to me. Especially considering MP Starscream was just sold for $60.

Megs Shut Up and Dont Take my Energon.jpg

An speaking of BBTS and the MP line, I just noticed on their front page they have MP-18B Bluestreak in stock now.

You can still pick up Hasbro's MP-11 styled Thundercracker for just over half the TT version (eBay!).

megatronus wrote:

carytheone wrote:Well he looks really good, but seems a little pricey to me. Especially considering MP Starscream was just sold for $60.

Megs Shut Up and Dont Take my Energon.jpg

An speaking of BBTS and the MP line, I just noticed on their front page they have MP-18B Bluestreak in stock now.

You can still pick up Hasbro's MP-11 styled Thundercracker for just over half the TT version (eBay!).

Ya, I'm not interested in paying that price for this at all. Just posted it to contribute to the community. I'd rather have the Hasbro version. I like that he has a little 'tude with all his "tattoos" and such. Thanks for the tip Mega T!

Cobotron wrote:

megatronus wrote:

carytheone wrote:Well he looks really good, but seems a little pricey to me. Especially considering MP Starscream was just sold for $60.

Megs Shut Up and Dont Take my Energon.jpg

An speaking of BBTS and the MP line, I just noticed on their front page they have MP-18B Bluestreak in stock now.

You can still pick up Hasbro's MP-11 styled Thundercracker for just over half the TT version (eBay!).

Ya, I'm not interested in paying that price for this at all. Just posted it to contribute to the community. I'd rather have the Hasbro version. I like that he has a little 'tude with all his "tattoos" and such. Thanks for the tip Mega T!

Ha no prob!

I begrudge no one who would rather have the Hasbro version. I have him, and he's pretty great. Like I said, he's at about half what the TT version will put you back so if it's a matter of cost the choice is obvious.

It's hard to resist that baby blue, though...

I do prefer the light blue. I'm kinda sucker for light blue bots.

I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Thirded. I only played with MP 03 so far so I would like to know how the MP11 mold feels. He might be better than he looks.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Thirded. I only played with MP 03 so far so I would like to know how the MP11 mold feels. He might be better than he looks.

You're just hung up on that cockpit

megatronus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Thirded. I only played with MP 03 so far so I would like to know how the MP11 mold feels. He might be better than he looks.

You're just hung up on that cockpit

And the feet

Theres a lot more to it, like the fact that my MP 03 broke the second day I got him.

megatronus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Thirded. I only played with MP 03 so far so I would like to know how the MP11 mold feels. He might be better than he looks.

You're just hung up on that cockpit

I'm not familiar with either, so what's up with the cockpit? Or do we just like saying cockpit?

carytheone wrote:

megatronus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote: I'm gonna hold off on picking up any more MP seekers until I get SS in hand.

Samsies Dawg.

Thirded. I only played with MP 03 so far so I would like to know how the MP11 mold feels. He might be better than he looks.

You're just hung up on that cockpit

I'm not familiar with either, so what's up with the cockpit? Or do we just like saying cockpit?

I find many problems with this 10 ear old mold which was never meant to be a show accurate Starscream. One of the problems is that his chest looks inverted compared to the cartoon model.

Check how the nose cone in every shot of G1 shows it pointing down, making the chest a nice hint of a v shape:





The classics toy got that right:


Transformers Classics Starscream Gallery

Now look at the MP:


Transformers Masterpiece Starscream (MP-11) Gallery

The chest is inverted with the triangular curve of the cockpit going up instead of down. This totally changes the figure's appearance by reducing the effect of a stronger upper torso with a more slender waist.

Hence why I dont find this to be the ultimate version of the character and not worth the 200$ price tag MP 11 had. But 60$ is a totally fair deal for an intricate mold like this. I still think the classic seeker mold is better.

I can only hope that TT use the gross profit from him and skywarp to give us more BW MP's.