New image of Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 and a $369.99 preorder at RobotKingdom.com
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Hot on the heels of these official new images of MP-44, we now have another new image which shows Prime leaping into the air firing his gun, a pose ripped out of the 1986 Transformers The Movie. The image was found on a Japanese blog site. Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Cyberpath for bringing this to our attention. According to the blog, the image is an advertisement put out by Takara Tomy Mall in a magazine.The image shows that the ¥50,000 price listing was indeed correct and is the MSRP for is. It is with mentioning that that price may see up to a 30% reduction once its Amazon Japan listing goes up, so it may be worth keeping an eye there. However, shipping will cost extra and its unknown at this point if it will be shipped to places outside of Japan.
We have mirrored the image for your convenience below.
We also have another preorder up for MP-44, this one couresty of site sponsor, RobotKingdom.com .
The pre order here is listed at $369.99 which is one of the best yet but does not factor shipping which could increase it to $450+ depending on where you are as it is
Shipping from China.
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Posted by ThunderThruster on November 30th, 2018 @ 11:12am CST
Coptur wrote:If they want quick bucks and cash grabs why not announce:
- Clampdown
Clampdown already exists as MP-14C, uness you want an animation style figure of a character that was never in the 'toon?
Posted by Regimus Prime on November 30th, 2018 @ 12:20pm CST
Posted by Short Circuit on November 30th, 2018 @ 12:34pm CST
Posted by mesh on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:44pm CST
carytheone wrote:Now that I'm looking at these new color images on a PC, has anyone else noticed how odd the hand/wrists connections look?Everybody enjoys a little cosplay form time to time.joevill wrote:It's a new figure, Starscream Prime!!!
During transformation or if it drops those hand joints will crack and snap off.
But now that we're seeing a drop in price I might reconsider. But it's still priced toooo high.
Posted by starfish on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CST
william-james88 wrote:So the toy goes out of its way to technically makes no sense and represent animation laziness.
They were animating episodes at stupid speeds, to stupid deadlines and to stupid budgets. By all means hate on the cartoon and its aesthetic all you like, but the animators did insanely well to make that show look as good as it did, given the constraints they were under.
I’m not sure that ‘laziness’ is an adjective we should be using to describe the toon art department. They worked their asses off!
Now, some of the scripts, on the other hand...
Posted by Seibertron on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:06pm CST
starfish wrote:william-james88 wrote:So the toy goes out of its way to technically makes no sense and represent animation laziness.
They were animating episodes at stupid speeds, to stupid deadlines and to stupid budgets. By all means hate on the cartoon and its aesthetic all you like, but the animators did insanely well to make that show look as good as it did, given the constraints they were under.
I’m not sure that ‘laziness’ is an adjective we should be using to describe the toon art department. They worked their asses off!
Now, some of the scripts, on the other hand...
I agree with starfish about the word "laziness", that's not fair for a hand drawn old school cel cartoon to call their hard work "lazy". It does come across to me as "lazy" for the Masterpieces though. I don't get making them look like the cartoon model walked out of the cartoon, lack of details and all. I want to get back to Prowl and Wheeljack, who look like their cartoon models but also have the extra detailing and didn't "cheat" to achieve the look.
I'd like to propose this quote instead:
So the toy goes out of its way to technically makes no sense and represent animation simplification.
Posted by kiwijinxter on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CST
Relic0037 wrote:When I got into collecting Masterpieces a few years ago, I knew they were far from cheap. But typically they would rarely go over the $200 price point with many of the car Autobots costing $80, which I could work into my budget. If the starting price starts to edge towards the $200 mark that would probably price me out right now, which would be a shame, because I have most of the previously released figures I want other than Ratchet & maybe MP-09, & I would hate to have to tap out because Takara is just trying to test where the line is in the general fans' pocket books.
I agree, when I was a kid a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I played with $20 Transformers and had a lot of joy out of it. However, now that I'm grown up and been working for years, I could finally budget for, and selectively buy some Masterpieces. But when a Masterpiece hits the $400+ level, even I couldn't justify it . Not unless it self-transforms. That said, power to those who can afford this. My favourite Transformers is and always has been the G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron, and it'll be hard to beat the MP-10 and MP-36 - they're a magnificent work of art.
Posted by kiwijinxter on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:35pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:The real kicker for me in all of this? I want this figure. It looks simply amazing, and I am one of the lucky ones here who can afford this price. But I can't justify it by any means. I have two little boys, and we have started trying to teach them the value of money. How can I do that with a straight face when I waste money on something like this? Answer: I can't.
Oh well, we move on.
Brilliant summation, love it. As a father of 3 kids, I have the same dilemma, but boy those Masterpieces are beautiful works of art for Transformers lovers!
Posted by Cobotron on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:52pm CST
Bossbot, I'm so riding this train right next to you. Meet me at the bar in the cafe car so we can drown our sorrows.Seibertron wrote: I want to get back to Prowl and Wheeljack, who look like their cartoon models but also have the extra detailing and didn't "cheat" to achieve the look.
Posted by Cyberpath on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
It seems like CHUG went the other, wildly so.
Yikes.
Posted by Seibertron on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Bossbot, I'm so riding this train right next to you. Meet me at the bar in the cafe car so we can drown our sorrows.Seibertron wrote: I want to get back to Prowl and Wheeljack, who look like their cartoon models but also have the extra detailing and didn't "cheat" to achieve the look.
Damn I would love to do that. Why do all of you live far away from me! Come to Chicago!!!
Well, in my efforts to find the positive side of things today since it's Friday, at least MP-44 doesn't have the "gorilla arms" problem or oddly slanted abdomen grill that has zero precedence prior to MP-10. Yay for that.
Posted by hausjam on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CST
Those of you complaining about the price just don't get it. If $450 is too much for a masterpiece, mark downs will be coming. If it sells out at $450, then they were right. It's called capitalism. If you don't agree with that, that is your prerogative. But it won't make you right. And complaining about it here won't make you feel any better.
Posted by Torneira on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CST
"Optimus must be obtained, no matter the costs."
Posted by Coptur on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:19pm CST
ThunderThruster wrote:Coptur wrote:If they want quick bucks and cash grabs why not announce:
- Clampdown
Clampdown already exists as MP-14C, uness you want an animation style figure of a character that was never in the 'toon?
Then I meant Deep Cover the red alert repaint
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CST
Coptur wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:Coptur wrote:If they want quick bucks and cash grabs why not announce:
- Clampdown
Clampdown already exists as MP-14C, uness you want an animation style figure of a character that was never in the 'toon?
Then I meant Deep Cover the red alert repaint
For the record, Clamp Down is the police car redeco of Red Alert:
Transformers Masterpiece Clampdown Gallery
While Deep Cover is the black Sideswipe redeco, who doesn't exist as an MP yet. I know, confusing...
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CST
Coptur wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:Coptur wrote:If they want quick bucks and cash grabs why not announce:
- Clampdown
Clampdown already exists as MP-14C, uness you want an animation style figure of a character that was never in the 'toon?
Then I meant Deep Cover the red alert repaint
Deep cover is a sideswipe repaint.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:54pm CST
Posted by Amelie on November 30th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CST
Seibertron wrote:So the toy goes out of its way to technically makes no sense and represent animation simplification.
I actually think that is something I really celebrate about the most recent Masterpiece figures. There is an element of "it makes no sense to do this" and "that'll never work" that to some designers and artists is more like challenge that can't be ignored. Whilst I appreciate a nice, uncluttered transformation (I feel like MP28 is a good example of this), I appreciate that Takara have been going the extra mile for accuracy on things that only made sense in animation for simplicity's sake.
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
Seibertron wrote:So the toy goes out of its way to technically makes no sense and represent animation simplification.
Yup, i can totally get behind that. And i too miss the days of Wheeljack, who is still my favorite mp car to this day.
Posted by Coptur on December 1st, 2018 @ 4:07am CST
william-james88 wrote:Coptur wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:Coptur wrote:If they want quick bucks and cash grabs why not announce:
- Clampdown
Clampdown already exists as MP-14C, uness you want an animation style figure of a character that was never in the 'toon?
Then I meant Deep Cover the red alert repaint
Deep cover is a sideswipe repaint.
Meh my point still holds that they should release the missing repaint characters regardless of my very small mistake Takara know who's who
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 1st, 2018 @ 6:30am CST
I fear that Optimus 3.0 will be light and flimsy...
Posted by william-james88 on December 1st, 2018 @ 10:37pm CST
Posted by President-prime on December 1st, 2018 @ 11:52pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 2:52am CST
Posted by wilcosu35 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 2:56am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Just a thought, Bandai has been doing their Soul Of Chogokin line for a very long time now and it's basically their masterpiece line for all the licenses they have. Some figures have been below $100 and some even below $75 but the really big ones have gone as high as $400 plus, those have quite a few add-ons and accessories. It hit me today that this version of Prime could be seen as being on the same level as those higher end SOC pieces.
Having shelled out a wad of money for Daizyujin and with King Brachion on order, i get where you're coming from. -44 is expensive but imho, he's worth it and i'll order him when HLJ puts the preorder up.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 2nd, 2018 @ 5:30am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 2nd, 2018 @ 9:08am CST
You mean the fact the TFSource is claiming to offer a 10% discount while charging the same price as everyone else?
Yeah, hilarious. Honestly I’ve been questioning TFSources morals lately, Between questionable “early bird discounts” and them saying they buy collections but then won’t take half of my collection. I dunno, maybe I’m just looking into it too deeply.
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 2nd, 2018 @ 9:35am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Just a thought, Bandai has been doing their Soul Of Chogokin line for a very long time now and it's basically their masterpiece line for all the licenses they have. Some figures have been below $100 and some even below $75 but the really big ones have gone as high as $400 plus, those have quite a few add-ons and accessories. It hit me today that this version of Prime could be seen as being on the same level as those higher end SOC pieces.
There is a massive difference of quality there. Bandai is high end, Takara Masterpiece is no different than main line toys in terms of their quality. Also, Bandai SoC figures typically retail low, sell out immediately, than skyrocket on the secondary market.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like a broken record, or a jerk, but there is no justification for this price, beyond greed. End of story. I get that people like Takara, and want to support it, but c'mon now. I want this figure too, and it pisses me off that Takara is trying to gouge me over my hobby love.
Posted by no-one on December 2nd, 2018 @ 10:07am CST
The last time I did business with them left a bad taste in my mouth and I haven't been back.Nemesis Maximo wrote:Honestly I’ve been questioning TFSources morals lately, Between questionable “early bird discounts” and them saying they buy collections but then won’t take half of my collection. I dunno, maybe I’m just looking into it too deeply.
Posted by Emerje on December 2nd, 2018 @ 3:28pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:You mean the fact the TFSource is claiming to offer a 10% discount while charging the same price as everyone else?
Yeah, they're doing the same thing with Selects Swoop and Ricochet and Furai Model Starscream and probably others. It's a strange thing to do and baffling that they don't realize most of us price check before ordering and can see how transparent this tactic is.
Emerje
Posted by Relic0037 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 4:25pm CST
Posted by bigcee66 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 8:27pm CST
Amelie wrote:The proportions on this blow Mp10 away, especially with the articulation. Very impressed. I prefer the anime look as well and since they'll do a lavish toy accurate deco later - everyone that can afford the toy is a winner.
I just wish that person affording it was me...
:edit: I also hope y'all paying attention to that new Starscream head and storing your pennies for the V3...
This. All day. I know I’m getting this when he releases. And I’d love a V3 Seeker mold.
Posted by bigcee66 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 8:40pm CST
Man exactly! I always felt MP-10 was highly overrated as a Masterpiece Optimus Prime. Stubby legs overly long fore arms funny chicken feet , just off proportions all around and a terrible representation of his iconic laser rifle. I only have him because I bought the TRU version for 100 as he wasn’t worth the 300 price tag because of me finding him and still finding him underwhelming.
Posted by bigcee66 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 8:41pm CST
Man exactly! I always felt MP-10 was highly overrated as a Masterpiece Optimus Prime. Stubby legs overly long fore arms funny chicken feet , just off proportions all around and a terrible representation of his iconic laser rifle. I only have him because I bought the TRU version for 100 as he wasn’t worth the 300 price tag because of me finding him and still finding him underwhelming.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 2nd, 2018 @ 9:32pm CST
People love MP-10 because 1. Despite what you say about his proportions they were considered an improvement on MP-01's 2. Unlike MP-01 he can actually bend forward at the waist and has other articulation improvements 3. Unlike MP-01 or even MP-04 he is a true complete Optimus Prime package that comes with everything the original had plus cool cartoon-based accessories and 4. He scales properly with the Seekers, Grimlock, and Roddy.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 2nd, 2018 @ 11:16pm CST
Honestly I’ve never understood why people think MP-01 has odd proportions, as .I’ve always found them really good. Now sure he may not bend at the waist, but that articulation was better than most of the toys being released at the time.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 2nd, 2018 @ 11:43pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with the Big C and Amelie over there. I’ve always found the proportions on MP-10 to be wack. He may not have chicken feet, but those toes are definitely too long for the classic look.
Honestly I’ve never understood why people think MP-01 has odd proportions, as .I’ve always found them really good. Now sure he may not bend at the waist, but that articulation was better than most of the toys being released at the time.
Might be the chest and the arms.
Compared to MP-10 his forearms are rather thick and his pecs jut out more, perhaps excessively. Not too bad on its own maybe, but coupled with the articulation, scale, and completeness factors...
Regarding the stock photo comparison of MP-10 and MP-44, angle can have a big impact on appearance.
How do the proportions look here?
And again, I would take MP-10's proportions over MP-44's cartoon accuracy gone mad (and the accompanying overcomplication and price hike and the cab's bed looking as bad as Studio Series Optimus').
EDITED TO FIX EMBARRASSING CRUISE-CONTROL TYPO
Posted by Coptur on December 3rd, 2018 @ 3:39am CST
Relic0037 wrote:One way I look at my decision to pass on MP-44 is that I already have MP-10, although to be 100% accurate, I have the TRU version of MP-10. This new figure doesn't represent a drastic change in scale like going from MP-01 to MP-10, so I will view it the same way I did when MP-12+ was announced.....if I didn't have Sideswipe already, I would probably get the + version, but since I already have him, I'm not buying him again to get some paint upgrades & in the case of MP-44, a few extra accessories.
Yeah instead of '+' Sideswipe & Wheeljack they could've just done Deep Cover ( ) & Slicer
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 3rd, 2018 @ 10:01am CST
And I’d like to apologize in advance for the following, but it popped in my head and I can’t help myself.
This is the story of a Prime/
Trailer hitch was a misaligned crime/
But he looks so good in robot mode/
I absolutely love him
Posted by kiwijinxter on December 3rd, 2018 @ 12:12pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 3rd, 2018 @ 4:01pm CST
More pix: http://thefwoosh.com/index.php/2018/12/ ... -and-more/
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 3rd, 2018 @ 5:01pm CST
While most images we've seen before, we do get a better look at the heads the set offers including the new Starscream head, intended to reference the G1 cartoon episode, "Megatron's Master Plan".
We have mirrored the images below for your convenience.
Do these better resolution pictures make you want to change your mind about this release? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on December 3rd, 2018 @ 5:44pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 3rd, 2018 @ 6:14pm CST
They did an amazing job on the robot mode they should have gone all the way
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2018 @ 7:23pm CST
Siege is doing the detailing better on figures, this is a step in the wrong direction, cost wise and detailing/design wise
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2018 @ 7:32pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2018 @ 7:44pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:I wish they would have made the truck mode cartoon accurate as well
They did an amazing job on the robot mode they should have gone all the way
Whats innacurate about thr truck? My problem is thst its too accurate, omitting the stripe on the cab and blue on the trailer to make it look more simplified.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2018 @ 7:54pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:I wish they would have made the truck mode cartoon accurate as well
They did an amazing job on the robot mode they should have gone all the way
Whats innacurate about thr truck? My problem is thst its too accurate, omitting the stripe on the cab and blue on the trailer to make it look more simplified.
Yes, that much is true (what makes it extra-dumb is that while the stripe was omitted the cab was often drawn with its outline anyway, which suggests the animators knew it should be there but had to block-color the cab regardless)
That said, the truck mode in the cartoon had proper fuel tanks instead of the laughable attempts seen here and didn't have a bed made up half of robot kibble.
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 3rd, 2018 @ 7:58pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:I wish they would have made the truck mode cartoon accurate as well
They did an amazing job on the robot mode they should have gone all the way
Whats innacurate about thr truck? My problem is thst its too accurate, omitting the stripe on the cab and blue on the trailer to make it look more simplified.
It's completely different, how could you not tell?