New Galleries: Transformers Titans Return Scourge with Fracas

best looking scourge so far

Too much blue. I will be getting one of the Takara Legends Scourges and using my 2 other Generations Scourges as his sweeps.

Noideaforaname wrote:
Seriously?

Strange thing to see on a children's toy.

I hope a 3rd party makes a proper head form him and Blurr.

omega666 wrote:I hope a 3rd party makes a proper head form him and Blurr.

Galvatron is the one I'm most concerned with. I can't get over how cool the rest of him is but his head is a disaster. Form follows function failed miserably with Galvatron.

Who needs to troop build when you can just get every Scourge toy instead?


It's too bad Scourge makes no attempt to blend the HM's arms into his face, like all the other HMs have done. Dunno if space was an issue or if they were intentionally giving him antennae for whatever reason, but he looks rather bad compared to the others.

Awesome! Just grabbed Motormaster, Wheeljack, and Legends Groove today, which made up for the fact that Titans Return hasn't hit the shelves of stores in my area. (I've only been to Target today so I actually don't know about the rest)

Noideaforaname wrote:Who needs to troop build when you can just get every Scourge toy instead?


It's too bad Scourge makes no attempt to blend the HM's arms into his face, like all the other HMs have done. Dunno if space was an issue or if they were intentionally giving him antennae for whatever reason, but he looks rather bad compared to the others.

Well the artwork looks like it has antennas. But that could be motion blur from the head attaching.

^ There's that, and the art does avoid being blindly literal (i.e. screws, those slots opposite ball joints, etc.). But it doesn't match Scourge's classic head design, so I kinda feel like I'm supposed to, well, pretend they don't exist.

Our next Transformers Titans Return gallery is also our first Leader class one for the line, as here at Seibertron.com we bring you a full look at Autobot communications expert Blaster, with Titan Master Twin Cast! The latter, of course, takes its name from the e-Hobby exclusive redeco of Blaster himself from his rebuild in the Headmasters animated series, as can be found here - and the name of our very own podcast - though now repurposed for the Headmaster/Titan Master instead.

Blaster, on the other hand, is the latest update for the Autobot from 1985, bringing robot, boombox and a passable base mode for Titan Master playability and cross-compatible with most figure classes in the Titans Retun line. Check out the full galleries by clicking on any of the images below!

Titans Return Blaster (217 images) - Leader Class
















Titans Return Twin Cast (55 images) - Leader Class, Titan Masters

Looks good! I don't know whether to get Soundwave or Blaster. Dead set on Galvatron though. I don't know what people are talking about when they say the head is messed up.. But I can just fix it by swapping it out for another. Maybe with the Voyager class Megatron that's rumored to be released. Wait, has that been confirmed to be a Headmaster?

Noideaforaname wrote:^ There's that, and the art does avoid being blindly literal (i.e. screws, those slots opposite ball joints, etc.). But it doesn't match Scourge's classic head design, so I kinda feel like I'm supposed to, well, pretend they don't exist.

I don't see any screws.. Are you and I looking at the same artwork? Or am I looking at a different one?

Fellow Seibertronians, hot on the heels of our Leader class Blaster galleries, and rounding out our galleries of the wave 1 leader class is Titans Return Leader Class Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex. This latest version of Optimus Prime is an extremely heavy retool of the Combiner Wars Leader class Ultra Magnus meant to be an reimagined update to his G1 counterpart, except that he is no longer a Powermaster. Instead Optimus has his Titanmaster Apex, whose name is derived from the Apex Armor which was additional armor the G1 Powermaster Optimus Prime could equip. Apex's head mode is based off of the Orion Pax toy, which was a redeco of the G1 Kup toy, and is, of course, the pre-Prime identity of Optimus Prime. So check out the gallery, and let us know what you think in the comments below.

Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime (205 images) - Leader Class






















Titans Return Apex (65 images) - Leader Class, Titan Masters

I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any pictures in the Powermaster Optimus Prime gallery that shows us the Apex head attached to Prime's body without the external helmet, the way the Blaster gallery showed us the helmetless Twincast head attached to Blaster's body.

i hope there will be some god bomber armor for him, maybe takara will work some magic

my optimus prime as a kid was power master prime - so I was really looking forward to this update. I also really dig the combiner wars ultra magnus mould so when this was announced i was over the moon. He doesn't disappoint though obviously part of me would love to have a cab that transformed into a mini prime... The base mode is a bit ridiculous and obviously an afterthought; Blaster's for example is much more convincing.

My two gripes with this guy are the re use of ultra magnus' black guns. In fact I don't think I'll be the only one to give each a matching pair. And he really needs ankle tilts more than Ultra magnus.

There's something about the plastic they're using that just looks...weird, especially on the Headmasters. It looks oddly coarse and grainy, almost as if it's 3D printed? It looks really, really bad when the Headmasters are in robot mode- the faces are barely discernible mushes, and the molding in general looks really rough. The lack of paint doesn't help either.

Also, that sparkly blue plastic Scourge and Fracas are molded from looks an awful lot like it'd be prone to GPS. I really hope I'm wrong but given the recent trend for wonky QC and cheap plastic...I'm worried.

Delta Magnus wrote:There's something about the plastic they're using that just looks...weird, especially on the Headmasters. It looks oddly coarse and grainy, almost as if it's 3D printed? It looks really, really bad when the Headmasters are in robot mode- the faces are barely discernible mushes, and the molding in general looks really rough. The lack of paint doesn't help either.

Also, that sparkly blue plastic Scourge and Fracas are molded from looks an awful lot like it'd be prone to GPS. I really hope I'm wrong but given the recent trend for wonky QC and cheap plastic...I'm worried.

I think the toughest thing on the headmasters is getting any detail onto the tiny robot faces let alone paint. Sieberton's incredible close-up's of the robot faces unfortunately brings out every blemish when in reality, the heads are so tiny you would barely notice some things without magnification (especially if you are over 35). Of the ones I have in hand, the plastic on all of them looks a little better than the photos, but the details are much harder to see with my own (aging) eyes.

I'm a little worried about GPS on Scourge myself, but so far he feels pretty solid.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:There's something about the plastic they're using that just looks...weird, especially on the Headmasters. It looks oddly coarse and grainy, almost as if it's 3D printed? It looks really, really bad when the Headmasters are in robot mode- the faces are barely discernible mushes, and the molding in general looks really rough. The lack of paint doesn't help either.

Also, that sparkly blue plastic Scourge and Fracas are molded from looks an awful lot like it'd be prone to GPS. I really hope I'm wrong but given the recent trend for wonky QC and cheap plastic...I'm worried.

I think the toughest thing on the headmasters is getting any detail onto the tiny robot faces let alone paint. Sieberton's incredible close-up's of the robot faces unfortunately brings out every blemish when in reality, the heads are so tiny you would barely notice some things without magnification (especially if you are over 35). Of the ones I have in hand, the plastic on all of them looks a little better than the photos, but the details are much harder to see with my own (aging) eyes.

I'm a little worried about GPS on Scourge myself, but so far he feels pretty solid.

Well, TT's managing to paint all the headmasters quite thoroughly in non-head mode, so, it can be done, hasbro simply isn't

Prime's head sculpt looks BOSS!

Man, the PMOP toy looks so good (save for that very dull tannish shade of gray) that I just can't wait to see how Takara can possibly make it any "better" for their Super Ginrai version.

fenrir72 wrote:Prime's head sculpt looks BOSS!

Speaking of which, I took some pics of him sporting just his Titan Master Apex noggin' without the traditional Optimus Prime helmet. I'll post them tomorrow for you guys to see.

Shegotron wrote:I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any pictures in the Powermaster Optimus Prime gallery that shows us the Apex head attached to Prime's body without the external helmet, the way the Blaster gallery showed us the helmetless Twincast head attached to Blaster's body.

Here you go Shegotron! Thanks for letting me know that I forgot these shots of him with just the Titan Master Apex head. You can click on the image below to view more images of him like this. Enjoy!

Ultra Markus wrote:i hope there will be some god bomber armor for him, maybe takara will work some magic

Takara confirmed there wont be the god bomber armor since they are doing Super Ginrai and not God Ginrai. Well at last thats what is written on the sketch they released of the upcoming toy.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i hope there will be some god bomber armor for him, maybe takara will work some magic

Takara confirmed there wont be the god bomber armor since they are doing Super Ginrai and not God Ginrai. Well at last thats what is written on the sketch they released of the upcoming toy.

What about a separately sold Godbomber?

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i hope there will be some god bomber armor for him, maybe takara will work some magic

Takara confirmed there wont be the god bomber armor since they are doing Super Ginrai and not God Ginrai. Well at last thats what is written on the sketch they released of the upcoming toy.

That just means that if any Godbomber were to be made it would come separately from Takara's figure, like how the original Godbomber was also a separate release from Super Ginrai.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i hope there will be some god bomber armor for him, maybe takara will work some magic

Takara confirmed there wont be the god bomber armor since they are doing Super Ginrai and not God Ginrai. Well at last thats what is written on the sketch they released of the upcoming toy.

That just means that if any Godbomber were to be made it would come separately from Takara's figure, like how the original Godbomber was also a separate release from Super Ginrai.

but now a 3rd party could step in in and with this figure it wont look so odd

If our two latest galleries here on Seibertron.com were Transformers Titans Return Leader class figures (Powermaster Prime and Blaster), and before that we brought you the full first wave of deluxes (Scourge, Blurr, Hardhead and Skullsmasher) it's probably time for the main dish, right?

Dive right in below with the new biggest Transformers figure out there, beating Generations Metroplex by not that much: Titan class Fortress Maximus, with Cerebros and Titan Master Emissary! The latter looks like Headmaster Spike of old, but with Cerebros' headsculpt, and Fort Max himself is shown off in city mode, battle station mode, robot mode, compared to a number of big bots and within the Titans Return line itself - plus a special human guest for further comparison, too. Check it all out by clicking on any of the images below!

Titans Return Fortress Maximus (399 images) - Titan Class






















Titans Return Cerebros (99 images) - Deluxe Class, Titan Class










Titans Return Emissary (63 images) - Titan Class, Titan Masters

The Pics are great! But Optimus' base mode looks like ass when combined to the other bases and thats too bad. It really does look like a kid just gave up in mid transformation.

Thanks for showing that to us, no one had done so yet. Its really off how the flap ends up in the air.

Are we to therefore understand that Fortress Maximus is taller than Metroplex?

Deathsanras wrote:
Are we to therefore understand that Fortress Maximus is taller than Metroplex?

By head yes, by shoulders no

Whle I understand the need to give Fort Max some guns, his legs really look naked without them.

Is it possible to leave the legs flat but open them in city mode (like on Metroplex's city mode) so that the open boots can act as garages?

Is it possible to put G1 Metro's head on this guy? There was an early picture to that effect, but I can't find confirmation otherwise.

How about Megabolt Megatron?

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it possible to put G1 Metro's head on this guy? There was an early picture to that effect, but I can't find confirmation otherwise.

How about Megabolt Megatron?

G1 Metroplex's head was removeable?

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it possible to put G1 Metro's head on this guy? There was an early picture to that effect, but I can't find confirmation otherwise.

How about Megabolt Megatron?

G1 Metroplex's head was removeable?

You know what I mean.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it possible to put G1 Metro's head on this guy? There was an early picture to that effect, but I can't find confirmation otherwise.

How about Megabolt Megatron?

G1 Metroplex's head was removeable?

You know what I mean.

haha, ok, I will stop teasing.

Its possible to put his head there but just like its possible to put any object of that size. It just rests there but nothing locks.

So the shin guns are detacheable and fit the fists? Fortmax looks great! Looking forward to him (especially the Jose Delbo homage shot you did Ryan

Wow, Seibs once again makes a toy look really, really awesome! I need to look into the gallery after I'm done with work, but is there a makeshift "computer" mode for Cerebros?

...main dish...

...dive in...

I see the food Puns have infected someone else, too, huh, Va'al? Great Gallery as always, Seibertron.

This looks great! I do have one question though.. what's up with everyone complaining about Galvatron? How does the Headmaster gimmick ruin it?

A few quick thoughts ...

I'm really bummed about the lack of a gun. It just cheapens the whole experience and kind of makes me feel taken advantage of because you know it was removed to save on costs. Instead of doing it right. In my ongoing battle against 3rd party unlicensed Transformers products, this just opens the door for someone to make a set of compatible guns for ol' Fort Max (though I've never had a problem with aftermarket accessories for Transformers, comparing it to the automotive market).

Fort Max, while he looks good in robot mode, ultimately just feels kind of half assed. The "leftovers" from Metroplex such as the legs splitting open and the right arm having the joint to move the whole arm in front of his body serve no purpose that I can tell. Don't get me wrong -- I really like Fort Max still, but he just seems less than Metroplex to me since Metroplex was so amazing and upscaled an awesome G1 toy by more than double.

Cerebros is the surprise piece from this set that I really liked. He finally has a proper toy that is worthy of the character. His original G1 version was kind of a short stumpy toy, but this one looks like he could lead the regular sized Headmasters. This version of him finally comes with a head that looks like he did in the comics and US cartoons. He's finally a proper action figure! He's even got a gun. I would have liked to see him have his traditional gun in addition to the "titan master" compatible gun, but considering that Fort Max didn't come with any guns I'll take what we got. Great update. Clobber looks awesome on him. Paint apps were a bit messed up on Cerebro's face but I'll take care of that later. I also like that Cerebros is big. Not quite a Voyager, but much larger than a deluxe.

Spike Emissary is also a nice update. I love that his head sculpt is the G1 cartoon and (more prominently) the Marvel Comics helmet. Nice touch!

Decepticon Stryker wrote:This looks great! I do have one question though.. what's up with everyone complaining about Galvatron? How does the Headmaster gimmick ruin it?

I don't mind him being a "Headmaster", it's just that it was extremely poorly executed. Galvatron's "head" has been reduced to an ill-conceived "mask" that only covers up the front part of a Titan Master "head". Had it been done along the lines of the helmets for Leader Class Galvatron or Optimus, it might have been better executed, but as it is, it's just a mess. The biggest issue is that the Titan Master face sits way too far back from the "mask" which just alway makes it look extremely off. The head rotates at a different angle from the mask as well so the angle of his face looking "ok" is extremely limited. And then there's the massive gap on the sides of his face from the mask. Hopefully I'll have his photos done tomorrow so that I can show you exactly what I mean with high res close-ups.

Seibertron wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:This looks great! I do have one question though.. what's up with everyone complaining about Galvatron? How does the Headmaster gimmick ruin it?

I don't mind him being a "Headmaster", it's just that it was extremely poorly executed. Galvatron's "head" has been reduced to an ill-conceived "mask" that only covers up the front part of a Titan Master "head". Had it been done along the lines of the helmets for Leader Class Galvatron or Optimus, it might have been better executed, but as it is, it's just a mess. The biggest issue is that the Titan Master face sits way too far back from the "mask" which just alway makes it look extremely off. The head rotates at a different angle from the mask as well so the angle of his face looking "ok" is extremely limited. And then there's the massive gap on the sides of his face from the mask. Hopefully I'll have his photos done tomorrow so that I can show you exactly what I mean with high res close-ups.

Ah, now I get it. That clears everything up.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:How about Megabolt Megatron?

Indeed!

(Original pic source)

Okay, time to go headhunting.

Basically he's the perfect nemesis for Cerebros.

Great pictures! I received mine two days ago and it looks awesome! I do not have Metroplex so cannot complain about retooling. The city mode is great although no one will display it. What are the major differences with the Takara one?

HeadOn! wrote:What are the major differences with the Takara one?

The Takara one has a different color scheme that is a lot more accurate to the original Fort Max toy and his cartoon colors. It also features a different headsculpt for Cerebros, one that is based on the head design he had in The Headmasters cartoon, which itself was based on more the original toy's head. And most of all, the Takara one might come with Fort Max's massive Master Sword that is iconic to Fort Max's Japanese appearance.

Can I chime in? I'll chime in!

I don't have any interest in the figure, at all. I have no connection the toy of old, I have no space for big bots, I just .. not my thing.

BUT. I have liked Cerebros since it first showed up. There's just something about it that calls to me.

I just can't get enough of Cerebros and Spike. I wish i could just buy them separately somewhere. I have no interest in fortress maximus whatsoever. It's incredibly disappointing to me in almost all it's modes.