New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars Metals VS-41 Silverbolt and Rampage

ZeroWolf wrote:That Ramage is fantastic. I do prefer the silver detailing.
Out of the silverbolts though, think I'll stick to getting the Hasbro version. Prefer the darker grey.

Malicron wrote:Well, I guess we know what Ryan got at BotCon this year.

Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, those eyes on Takara Silverbolt look so good!

Hey Ryan, do you also have the little-known running change variant of Hasbro's Rampage that changed the orange paint apps on his head and torso to a subdued pinkish silver?

Here's a pic of it (not mine, though) that compares it to the first-run Hasbro version (on the right) and the Takara version (on the left):

Seibertron wrote:Is the backside different or just the head and chest?

Seibertron wrote: I have a pile of Rampages in varying degrees of completeness and condition, but all of them are the orange paint variant.

mooncake623 wrote:

Seibertron wrote: I have a pile of Rampages in varying degrees of completeness and condition, but all of them are the orange paint variant.

Any chance you have an extra missile launcher with the three missiles? If so how much? =D

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Is the backside different or just the head and chest?

From what I've read, it's just the paint apps on the head and chest that are different.

It's enough to make me regret not waiting until later to get my Rampage back when I was a kid, as mine is the more ubiquitously-known first-run variant.

Funnily enough, this other variant wasn't brought to the fandom's attention until about 15 years after it came out.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, those eyes on Takara Silverbolt look so good!

Hey Ryan, do you also have the little-known running change variant of Hasbro's Rampage that changed the orange paint apps on his head and torso to a subdued pinkish silver?

Here's a pic of it (not mine, though) that compares it to the first-run Hasbro version (on the right) and the Takara version (on the left):

And this right here is what I love about collecting Transformers 30 years in. I had no idea there was a running change with the Hasbro version of Rampage. THAT is the show accurate version. I was really bummed by the translucent plastic on Takara's Rampage. It looks awesome, don't get me wrong, but I was hoping for a more show accurate Rampage. Takara's paint apps on Hasbro's Rampage looks fantastic. Is the backside different or just the head and chest?

I'm also surprised I haven't come across the variant yet with all of the collections I've been buying for the Seibertron.com store. I have a pile of Rampages in varying degrees of completeness and condition, but all of them are the orange paint variant.

Seibertron wrote:Has anyone else come across this silver paint variant? I find it really odd that there seems to only be one photo and only one sample of this known to date. I just opened the brand new sealed packaging variant that I purchased off eBay last week, and it had the orange painted version in it just like all of the examples that are known to exist. The one I opened was one from 1999 with product code "554455.0300". I believe the "0300" means this is the 3rd packaging variant (preceded by 0000 and 0200 if I recall correctly). If there was a 0305 or a 0400 I would believe that might contain the silver painted variant but it's tough to want to keep chasing down a Rampage variant if there's only 1 example out there.

It's also possible that instead of a running change that it was just a fluke, right? Does anyone know if the Japanese Beast wars Transformers were produced at the same factory as the Hasbro produced ones? If so, it could have just been a one-off that made it through with part of Takara's paint on a Hasbro version, right?

It's definitely a running change. Back when Rampage first came out, I got mine first and it was the orange version. A friend of mine at the time got Rampage a few months later and it was the silver version. Being kids, we were bewildered at the time and thought we'd run across something super special. Once the TM2 Dinobot and Prowl thing happened, we just accepted that "running changes" were normal.

I didn't know people didn't know this was a thing.

Sabrblade wrote:...Dark Scream's sword was made thicker than Nightglider's.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:...Dark Scream's sword was made thicker than Nightglider's.

You know what they say about dudes with thick swords.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:...Dark Scream's sword was made thicker than Nightglider's.

You know what they say about dudes with thick swords.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

#Sideways# wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:...Dark Scream's sword was made thicker than Nightglider's.

You know what they say about dudes with thick swords.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

shajaki wrote:hey seibs! i know you recently acquired a beast wars returns strika. can i assume you have a full set of BWR figures? when are you planning to get some of those galleries up?

Seibertron wrote:

shajaki wrote:hey seibs! i know you recently acquired a beast wars returns strika. can i assume you have a full set of BWR figures? when are you planning to get some of those galleries up?

Sooner than later for some of them. BWR Tankor, Thrust, Jetstorm, Obsidian and Strika are at the top of my list and I hope to have them completed before the end of the year. I am looking for decent prices on Savage Noble and Megahead Megatron and have not acquired them yet. If I recall correctly, the rest of the figures are basically identical to their Hasbro releases.

xyl360 wrote:I have BWR Jetstorm but I don't believe he's very different (if at all) compared to the US release.

shajaki wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I have BWR Jetstorm but I don't believe he's very different (if at all) compared to the US release.

i was going to quote sarblade and say what about jetstorm. does anyone know if theres any differences between the BM and BWR jetstorm?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The differences are minor, and best explained here:
BM Jetstorm entry on TFU.info (scroll down for variants)

shajaki wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The differences are minor, and best explained here:
BM Jetstorm entry on TFU.info (scroll down for variants)

i know all about tfu, so that was a big DUR moment for me.

he has some subtle (but very nice) differences. his secondary (or tertiary i dunno) color of plastic is like, seafoam green instead of red. no yellow on the face. and those yellow/orange lines on his abdomen are blue instead. very nice. ill have to get him now!

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The differences are minor, and best explained here:
BM Jetstorm entry on TFU.info (scroll down for variants)

i know all about tfu, so that was a big DUR moment for me.

he has some subtle (but very nice) differences. his secondary (or tertiary i dunno) color of plastic is like, seafoam green instead of red. no yellow on the face. and those yellow/orange lines on his abdomen are blue instead. very nice. ill have to get him now!

90% of all his gray plastic was also changed to blue. That's a pretty substantial difference.

1987olds442 wrote:Sorry to bump and older thread, but I thought I would try to help

What you have there is actually the very first release of Rampage. I have that one as well and the revision one with the gold on the head and chest. If you have both versions boxes the first releases of Rampage was originally in a larger box with a slightly different UPC code. I have my boxes and boxed figures in storage right now, but from memory the originals ended with 00 and the more common running changes end with 01 or 02. The 00 ones only existed in the store for a blink of an eye. I say the only saw one release before they replaced them with the more common gold revision cases.

Here is a old picture of my Rampage when he was pretty much brand new.


Here is the last picture that I took before boxing him up and moving.


There is also a first release Depth Charge as well that is more show accurate with different paint on his face.

Rated X wrote:Looking at this vintage figure just makes me realize how much justice the new takara version has done for this character. I never realized she was just a repaint of tarulantas in the beast wars toy line. We are very fortunate to now be getting fembots with actual female bodies instead of repainted male bodies posing as females.

william-james88 wrote:Here is something special regarding variants in the Beast Era.

For Takara's version of Tarantulus and Blackarachnia, there were variants that are noticeably different from the Hasbro versions. The key to knowing if the boxed toy is the variant or not is the green sticker on the front of the package. If it has the white and red sticker, it's the same as the Hasbro version. The green sticker versions are intended to be the more screen accurate versions, though that will be for you to judge when you will see the galleries.

Here is a breakdown of the differences between these variants and the regular Takara/Hasbro release:

Takara Blackarachnia's spider mode is very similar to her Hasbro version. The paint on her claws and chest is gold colored instead of a brownish/bronze color. The trigger button that was green on the Hasbro version is green on the Takara version. In robot mode, the differences stand out more. Takara's eyes and face plate uses the same gold color as her claws and chest, whereas the Hasbro version oddly uses white which isn't used anywhere else on that version. In addition, the green plastic is replaced with a grey plastic.

Takara's Tarantulas has less noticeable changes from the Hasbro version. It uses a grey plastic with a hint of brown or beige instead of the regular grey plastic on the Hasbro version. The green plastic is an almost olive green on the Hasbro version and the Takara version uses a more traditional brighter green. The eye visor on the Takara version uses a goldish colored paint instead of the black paint on the Hasbro version.


Beast Wars Blackarachnia










Beast Wars Tarans

Powered Convoy wrote:Blackarchnia was one of the few original Japanese Beast Wars that only had one version.

She, Tigatron, Buzzsaw, Shadowpanther, Rhinox, and Wolfang didn't have a USA version and a Japanese version from Takara. Just the normal Takara ones. So the USA color Blackarachnia (along with the others I listed) didn't get a release from Takara like with the 2 versions of Tarantulas, Waspinator, Dinobot, Scorponok, Optimus Primal, and Cheetor.

Rhinox did have two versions though, one tan and one brown (both different than the USA version).

It's funny that even with these deluxes Hasbro and Takara were still gang molding parts as the parts that changed color on Tarantulas carried over to Waspinator and the same was true with Blackarachnia and Buzzsaw.

Randy

Seibertron wrote:

Powered Convoy wrote:Blackarchnia was one of the few original Japanese Beast Wars that only had one version.

She, Tigatron, Buzzsaw, Shadowpanther, Rhinox, and Wolfang didn't have a USA version and a Japanese version from Takara. Just the normal Takara ones. So the USA color Blackarachnia (along with the others I listed) didn't get a release from Takara like with the 2 versions of Tarantulas, Waspinator, Dinobot, Scorponok, Optimus Primal, and Cheetor.

Rhinox did have two versions though, one tan and one brown (both different than the USA version).

It's funny that even with these deluxes Hasbro and Takara were still gang molding parts as the parts that changed color on Tarantulas carried over to Waspinator and the same was true with Blackarachnia and Buzzsaw.

Randy

What's different on Scorponok and Optimus Primal? I was under the understanding that they were the same even with the green stickers, aside from the various special editions of Optimus Primal such as the gray version.

Sabrblade wrote:As for Scorponok, Takara's second run version had the first run version's black plastic changed to charcoal gray, and the red parts were changed to a lighter, near orange shade.

Seibertron wrote:Green sticker variants only apply to single packs, not to the versus packs, which unfortunately adds to the confusion about these.

Sabrblade wrote:The only place I've seen in hand pics of the Takara second run Scorpos figure is on TFU.info, but the differences with the Hasbro-colored version seem to be so subtle that I can barely tell the difference from those pics.

That or the pics aren't in a good enough quality/lighting to really bring out the differences.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The only place I've seen in hand pics of the Takara second run Scorpos figure is on TFU.info, but the differences with the Hasbro-colored version seem to be so subtle that I can barely tell the difference from those pics.

That or the pics aren't in a good enough quality/lighting to really bring out the differences.

Where do you see the pics of the Takara variant on tfu.info? Nevermind ... saw them on the page, just overlooked them because they look the same.