New Galleries: Generations Voyager Class Sandstorm

So news that Sandstorm's popping up in stores now are true. Damn, and I haven't even spotted Springer yet.

As I've said before, now that we have another Decepticon Triplechanger coming down the pipe (granted, Doubledealer was technically not considered a traditional Triplechanger, despite having three modes), this gives me the perfect excuse for picking up Sandstorm.

Autobot032 wrote:Can you believe it's been almost 30 years since the debut of Springer and his mold mate Sandstorm?

Springer and Sandstorm have never shared a mold until now. Similar vehicle modes, but not the same mold, and they are not retooled from each other.

Sandstorm looks amazing. I can't wait to get him. They really went above and beyond on this retool.

I have Generations Air Raid filling in for my CHUG Broadside.

Mindmaster wrote:Springer and Sandstorm have never shared a mold until now. Similar vehicle modes, but not the same mold, and they are not retooled from each other.

I should've clarified. I meant their current mold is shared. I was trying to say that Springer and Sandstorm are almost 30, period.

I'll correct that.

Autobot032 wrote:I should've clarified. I meant their current mold is shared. I was trying to say that Springer and Sandstorm are almost 30, period.

Oh, oh. I gotcha, now. Sorry.

As cool as the retooling is, and this is NOT a complaint, I do have to wonder why they did it. Seems like Sandstorm would've been more source-accurate with just the new head (lack of faceplate notwithstanding) and none of the VTOL bits.

I hope this extensive level of retooling continues to be a trend, even if just for a few select molds.

Noideaforaname wrote:I hope this extensive level of retooling continues to be a trend, even if just for a few select molds.

Same here. I'd have almost no problem throwing money Hasbro's way if their remolds were as drastic as this.

Another good example is TakaraTomy's Jet Vehicon. The transformation on the torso is pretty much the same, plus their faces, but that's the end of it. Everything else is different, such as the wings (of course), the forearms are a completely new mold, the hood, etc. You get the idea. It was such a drastic change that standing them next to each other, you probably wouldn't be able to tell they shared the same mold at first. It always takes a second glance to be sure. Those are the remolds I like.

It's really amazing just how different Springer & Sandstorm look in robot mode. If you didn't know any better or look too closely you'd think they were totally different molds. Hasbro's doing really well with the current batch of Generations toys.

Noideaforaname wrote:As cool as the retooling is, and this is NOT a complaint, I do have to wonder why they did it. Seems like Sandstorm would've been more source-accurate with just the new head (lack of faceplate notwithstanding) and none of the VTOL bits.

The more different they look or the more distinct they are, the greater the chance of a sale with the less knowledge crowds. Think of it this way: ever seen Mega Man X and Zero side by side? They share a base, but their creator wanted to keep their silhouettes distinct to make them more unique from each other. When Axl was introduced, that's the advice he gave his designers

I hope this extensive level of retooling continues to be a trend, even if just for a few select molds.

Same here!

In our second set of galleries for today, Seibertron.com presents Generations Legends Class Starscream with Waspinator and Megatron with Chop Shop. This wave pairs favourite Decepticon characters with target master partners with names that haven't had toys in a long time. In the case of Chop Shop. he hasn't got a toy since his original G1 incarnation and Waspinator, repaints aside, hasn't had a new figure since his Beast Wars and TFA toys. Both Starscream and Megatron gets new molds with Megatron turning into his often favourite tank alt mode and Starscream stays with his tried and true jet.

Generations Starscream














Generations Waspinator






Generations Megatron












Generations Chop Shop

I thought Waspinator got a new mold towards the end of the Transformers: Animated line.

Sandstorm looks awesome. Is it just the transformation or is Sandstorm twice the mass of Springer? He looks massive.

I want the bugs, but not the big guys.

wolverinetodd wrote:I thought Waspinator got a new mold towards the end of the Transformers: Animated line.

And so he has

For his size, Starscream looks detailed and nice made.

i saw prime & bumblebee in walmart today & these are not worth $10, they're slightly bigger than a legends but smaller than a commander and yet they cost more that the latter. I bet if i were to weigh a commander & one of these guys the weights would be similar & the articulation is not anymore advanced. I want Megatron & Starscream but im going to have to pass unless i can get them for around $7 or $8, anything above that is overpriced. I dont see how hasbro comes up with these prices i really dont. What sickens me more is that TRU will probably charge $13 or $15 for them.

I was considering getting Starscream & Waspinator just for Waspinator, but then we got news of his Deluxe toy coming down the pipe this year/early next year. So that plan is nixed.

Even though I'm curently not considering getting Megatron & Chop Shop (or any of them besides Cosmos & Sky High, Swerve & Blast Master, and maybe Tailgate & whoever comes with him), I'm a little disappointed that Megatron is a teewee bit shorter than Optimus Prime.

Megatron Wolf wrote:i saw prime & bumblebee in walmart today & these are not worth $10, they're slightly bigger than a legends but smaller than a commander and yet they cost more that the latter.

I could have sworn they were in between a Commander and a Scout. If they're not, they're definitely the same size as a Commander. Plus, with the extra bit of plastic that are the Targetmaster partners, that could raise the price a dollar or two more. I'd say they're worth the &10 everyone's charging.

What sickens me more is that TRU will probably charge $13 or $15 for them.

My Toys "R" Us is charging $10 a piece for them so far. Keyword, "so far".

quickmixed wrote:Sandstorm looks awesome. Is it just the transformation or is Sandstorm twice the mass of Springer? He looks massive.

The only thing that is bigger on Sandstorm are those two huge wheels on his back. Everything is the same size.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

quickmixed wrote:Sandstorm looks awesome. Is it just the transformation or is Sandstorm twice the mass of Springer? He looks massive.

The only thing that is bigger on Sandstorm are those two huge wheels on his back. Everything is the same size.

The legs on Sandstorm feel smaller than those on Springer as well.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

quickmixed wrote:Sandstorm looks awesome. Is it just the transformation or is Sandstorm twice the mass of Springer? He looks massive.

The only thing that is bigger on Sandstorm are those two huge wheels on his back. Everything is the same size.

I can see it now. Take those wheels away and they are the same size. I gotta say the wheels do a good job of bulking sandstorm out though.

That Starscream looks like a fun figure. I like that the nosecone doesn't end up on his back.

Deathscythetransform wrote:quite frankly, I'll leave it in the gun, attached to metro's hand, and leaving it alone...

And that's how this missile will get lost inevitably. I put mine in a ziploc bag inside of his chest so that I won't lose it. It shot out in my basement 3 times during the gallery. Fortunately I heard where it fell all 3 times but was able to find it.

Well those certainly blow Astro and Octane out of the water...

I didn't know how much Sandstorm's G1 figue REALLY looks like Energon Cliffy's. That's kinda nifty.

Pre Requisite Metroplex is HUGE post...

Seibertron wrote:

Deathscythetransform wrote:quite frankly, I'll leave it in the gun, attached to metro's hand, and leaving it alone...

And that's how this missile will get lost inevitably. I put mine in a ziploc bag inside of his chest so that I won't lose it. It shot out in my basement 3 times during the gallery. Fortunately I heard where it fell all 3 times but was able to find it.

I forgot to mention that I will put superglue inside the gun, to make sure the missile wont be launched accidentally

The Decepticons have a new threat... The Wreckers and their combined form Ruination! We are proud to present the newest Seibertron.com gallery, the Generations Wreckers, giving you an indepth look at these new takes on fan favorites!





The set is based on the Fall Of Cybertron Bruticus mold, but features a brand new deco with retooled heads and new weapons! And of course, it's Scramble City in it's design, allowing you to put any limb robot into a right or left configuration of both a leg and arm, adding to the level of play and maximizing their value.



These are available at retail and are currently priced at $12.99 per 'bot. Can't wait to see more? Click on any of the figure pictures below and you'll taken to the Seibertron.com galleries where you can see all of Ruination, the individual Wreckers and so many more!

First up is Ruination, the combined form of the Wreckers:



Followed by:

(Deluxe Class)
Generations Impactor



(Deluxe Class)
Generations Whirl



(Deluxe Class)
Generations Roadbuster



(Deluxe Class)
Generations Topspin



(Deluxe Class)
Generations Twintwist



Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news, updates and the best galleries around!

Until Last week, I would've said "if that Starscream were a deluxe..." but seeing what Hasbro's doing now, I'm not sure I wanna see that anymore. Its a nice figure, attached nullrays, knees, elbows, shoulders, the jety mode kinda looks like Metroplex stepped on a nd squished an F22, but hey, licensaing and all... but I don't forsee him getting much use.

However, Wazzpinator needzzz gun that looks like Wazzpinator...

Megatron? meh. Actually reminds me a lot of his *other*Titanium transforming figure. I'm not sure if I'll ne assigning ChopShop to FOC Kickback or letting him runaround with hardshell.

And also, I'd kinda really like to see whomever did the Armada molds be brought back. The triplechanging targetmasterminicons we're seeing now aren't bad, but they're lacking a bit in their bot modes. And yes, I realize that its hard to cram three modes into the figs, and yes, I relaize i couldn't draw my way out of a wet paper bag if someone asked me to do better, but Armada had Makeshift, Terradive, Firebot, Prowl, Gunbarrl, Thunderwing, leader-1 sorta, distinctive gun, robot, and vehicle modes. And actual legs, if not actual knees...

Really looking forward to these, glad I didn't get Bruticus because these look so much better. I still hate the combined mode though. Maybe the awkward proportions would work if he didn't stand upright. I'm thinking ROTF Devastator, does anyone know if that's possible?

These look great as FOC figures but are pretty poor if they were to be repurposed 'Classicsverse' ones. I know a few poeple who were waiting on these for that very reason. MechiDeas Topspin and Twintwist are way nicer. That Impactor headsculpt is pretty nice though and deserves a better body. I wounder if anyone will be donating it to Machine Wars Strika?

i think this combination looks much much better than the bruticus version. . i may have to pick these guys up.. but i'm certainly not going to pay the retail $15 price per figure on it. if there's a sale, i'll pick them up. otherwise.. no thank you.

I sold my G2 colored FOC Bruticus without regret. The whole thing was just "meh" looking and felt pretty cheap.

However, I may just get this Wrecker set because they look way better than their counterpart.

Thank you for yet another wonderful gallery.

The combination of the new deco, retooled sculpts, and new accessories really make this set stand apart from the FoC Combaticons in a good way.

just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

Great galleries as always, Ryan, reconfirming getting them for sure.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

Great galleries as always, Ryan, reconfirming getting them for sure.

I'm Glad we get new weapons and new heads on repaint these days. Back in the days we almost never get new heads. New head with a different paint scheme is great!



Impactor and Roadbuster looks awesome in my Wreckers Shelf! =]
the other three... I'll just throw in my FOC shelf.

Great pictures btw!

Wow Hasbro, repaint much? That combined mode is hideous.

That Whirl looks amazing!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

oh please. of course they look better. it's the freaking Wreckers we're talkin about.

overall, if the toys weren't garnering revenue, hasbro wouldn't continue to push em out like this.

i understand that since it's a combiner set, the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality comes into play, but geez. those boys deserve better than this. they know they can do better. we all do. hasbro's just being lazy, knowing that diehard transformers fan'll eat up whatever they spew out.

that being said, it's the Wreckers. hell yea i'm coppin em. but i'm not happy about the way they're bring treated.

Jack Hallows wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

oh please. of course they look better. it's the freaking Wreckers we're talkin about.

overall, if the toys weren't garnering revenue, hasbro wouldn't continue to push em out like this.

i understand that since it's a combiner set, the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality comes into play, but geez. those boys deserve better than this. they know they can do better. we all do. hasbro's just being lazy, knowing that diehard transformers fan'll eat up whatever they spew out.

that being said, it's the Wreckers. hell yea i'm coppin em. but i'm not happy about the way they're bring treated.

It's still a step in the right direction, since Roadbuster and Whirl straight repaints at first (see Cybertron Defense Hot Shot, Cybertron Legends Evac and Movie Voyager Evac).

I just opened mine and I'm super psyched about the new weapons, they are just so awesome!

Great picks Ryan.

5 recolors and it took an Autobot to cast that tank mold in any color besides green.

I was dimly interested in this set for Whirl, but he's getting a Voyager (this or next year?) so I'm passing on this one. Hopefully the other Wreckers get unique molds down the line, too.

I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.

Even if they weren't there from the beginning we have a preceptor, kup, springer, and a few ultra magni.

Seibertron wrote:I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.

I agree. I think Hasbro likes to use redecos and retools as a means to "test the waters" for more obscure characters without breaking the bank on a whole new mold. I like such careful thinking, and the creativity forced as a consequence.

Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

This set will work wonderfully as my Shattered Glass Wreckers.

Maybe a 3rd Party is observing that will put out a weapons upgrade set including Impactor's shoulder cannon and harpoon like weapon.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Maybe a 3rd Party is observing that will put out a weapons upgrade set including Impactor's shoulder cannon and harpoon like weapon.

I do like weapons.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.

I agree. I think Hasbro likes to use redecos and retools as a means to "test the waters" for more obscure characters without breaking the bank on a whole new mold. I like such careful thinking, and the creativity forced as a consequence.

Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

That's the only thing that stopping me from getting these guys. That we'll eventually get better, original versions later on. Whirl, who is the weakest of this set due to his poor and inaccurate color scheme, is getting an original mold. And I suspect that's probably why they gave him such an inaccurate color scheme. To differentiate the two.

Plus the club is doing Ironfist as a subscription figure. I'm honestly surprised they didn't save him for a box set of Wreckers. That surely would have been a slam dunk box set for FunPub. The fact that they're not seems like they know we will see more original Wreckers some time soon.

Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color.
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.

Eagleblaster wrote:

Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color.
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.

The first years of G1 had plenty of repaints and retools yet nobody complained...

Repaints and retools are a necessary evil though. Hasbro has stated that in order to break even with the costs of the development of a toy, the mold has to have at least two different releases.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Eagleblaster wrote:

Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a shit attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color.
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.

The first years of G1 had plenty of repaints and retools yet nobody complained...

Repaints and retools are a necessary evil though. Hasbro has stated that in order to break even with the costs of the development of a toy, the mold has to have at least two different releases.

A figure should get no more than one repaint. And if hasbro wants to do more than one then the second repaint has to be a drastic retool like Generations Sandstorm and mp-Smokescreen. This is how I fell and my opinion.