More Voice Actors Revealed for Transformers Rise of the Beasts Including Peter Dinklage as Scourge

Can we all take a moment to appreciate that, in ONE DAY, we got trailers for Transformers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny? I'd call that a good day.

There was rumors from on-set stuff that a character or set called "Stratosphere" was in the film, I don't remember the details since it was months ago but from what I recall I think it was related to a big plane or something like that.

So it's possible that Stratosphere is how the Autobots get to Peru in the film but that's just speculation.


Anyways it's nice to see David Sobolov get a presumably more notable role after Bumblebee with the brief but good performance he had as Blitzwing.

I wonder if this "Reek" is the same or a different character from the Crescent character in the toyline.

First-Aid wrote:Can we all take a moment to appreciate that, in ONE DAY, we got trailers for Transformers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny? I'd call that a good day.

Yup, was a good day, but I was a bit let down by that Guardians trailer, it doesn't get me excited for the film.

Peter Dinklage as Scourge?

HOW DARE HE?

Scourge is not a Dwarf, he's a giant alien robot. Why can't they cast a giant alien robot in the role?

#giantrobotrepresentationmatter

Ignoring the obvious unfinished CGI, the character designs look AMAZING! Being a ¨Beast Wars¨ era kid, I think the Maximals look better than expected (Cheetor, I´m waiting for your figure).

I always find so weird that the so called ¨fans¨ tend to be the more judgmental with these movies, I know they could be better, but let´s be honest, without the movies, the Transformers lore in general wouldn´t be as big as it is.

(BTW, this is my first comment ever! Even though I´ve been on Seibertron.com for years now, Hi everyone)

Oh, for bootin' up cold! I can't believe they didn't include Rattrap!

Is anyone else really disappointed that they turn into giant robotic beasts instead of proper animals? To me, it really gives me a feeling like if everyone in the 2007 movie turned into cybertronian stuff instead of actual vehicles.

Rtron wrote:Is anyone else really disappointed that they turn into giant robotic beasts instead of proper animals? To me, it really gives me a feeling like if everyone in the 2007 movie turned into cybertronian stuff instead of actual vehicles.

Not at all. The are in line with IDW and Generations where they are the same size as the other bots. Because if not, what tiny tiny beasty bots can do against giants?

Guillermo1790 wrote:without the movies, the Transformers lore in general wouldn´t be as big as it is.

Perfect first post and welcome!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rtron wrote:Is anyone else really disappointed that they turn into giant robotic beasts instead of proper animals? To me, it really gives me a feeling like if everyone in the 2007 movie turned into cybertronian stuff instead of actual vehicles.

Not at all. The are in line with IDW and Generations where they are the same size as the other bots. Because if not, what tiny tiny beasty bots can do against giants?

Well, answering that question could be a very interesting plot point, for example. Could make for some very cool visuals and action. Instead of just "big thing smash". Besides, size differences between bots has not been a problem in previous movies, it's not a new thing. I mean, Arcee exists and she'll clearly be a small bot. Plus, gorillas and rhinos are VERY big animals.

The funny thing about the Maximals being human-sized instead of giant-sized, that's only ever been the case in just the original Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (and their comic/prose spin-offs from BotCon, Dreamwave, and IDW). Virtually everything else they have ever appeared in has depicted them as giant-sized. Same with the Predacons.

The Japanese Beast Wars cartoons, Car Robots/RID 2001, RobotMasters, IDW1, the Prime Wars Trilogy, the War For Cybertron Trilogy, etc.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Can we all take a moment to appreciate that, in ONE DAY, we got trailers for Transformers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny? I'd call that a good day.

Yup, was a good day, but I was a bit let down by that Guardians trailer, it doesn't get me excited for the film.

Yeah, I agree. That one actually felt...sad. if not for the Drax hitting the kid with the dodgeball, I would have thought it was The Eternals 2

Sabrblade wrote:The funny thing about the Maximals being human-sized instead of giant-sized, that's only ever been the case in just the original Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (and their comic/prose spin-offs from BotCon, Dreamwave, and IDW). Virtually everything else they have ever appeared in has depicted them as giant-sized. Same with the Predacons.

The Japanese Beast Wars cartoons, Car Robots/RID 2001, RobotMasters, IDW1, the Prime Wars Trilogy, the War For Cybertron Trilogy, etc.

Well, all the more reason to make them "small" (though they averaged like 2 metres in height) again! I always liked them being "smaller" mainly because of the real animal angle, but also because of the energy saving thing, and because it made the G1 guys look more legendary and archaic in comparison. Like you were supposed to empathize with the beast warriors, and then look at the old guzzlers in awe. A bit like having a smartphone, then looking at one of those 50's supercomputers and all the work they required to operate.

Rtron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The funny thing about the Maximals being human-sized instead of giant-sized, that's only ever been the case in just the original Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (and their comic/prose spin-offs from BotCon, Dreamwave, and IDW). Virtually everything else they have ever appeared in has depicted them as giant-sized. Same with the Predacons.

The Japanese Beast Wars cartoons, Car Robots/RID 2001, RobotMasters, IDW1, the Prime Wars Trilogy, the War For Cybertron Trilogy, etc.

Well, all the more reason to make them "small" (though they averaged like 2 metres in height) again! I always liked them being "smaller" mainly because of the real animal angle, but also because of the energy saving thing, and because it made the G1 guys look more legendary and archaic in comparison. Like you were supposed to empathize with the beast warriors, and then look at the old guzzlers in awe. A bit like having a smartphone, then looking at one of those 50's supercomputers and all the work they required to operate.

Something else of note is that Bob Forward once said that the decision to make them small wasn't fully set in stone until the final scene of "The Agenda (Part III)". Before that, their size fluctuated throughout Seasons 1-2. An example he pointed out was a shot in "Code of Hero" where Dinobot overlooks the human valley being attacked by the Predacons while the sun sets in the background behind him. Forward said that, in that shot, Dinobot was animated as being 30 feet tall.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rtron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The funny thing about the Maximals being human-sized instead of giant-sized, that's only ever been the case in just the original Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (and their comic/prose spin-offs from BotCon, Dreamwave, and IDW). Virtually everything else they have ever appeared in has depicted them as giant-sized. Same with the Predacons.

The Japanese Beast Wars cartoons, Car Robots/RID 2001, RobotMasters, IDW1, the Prime Wars Trilogy, the War For Cybertron Trilogy, etc.

Well, all the more reason to make them "small" (though they averaged like 2 metres in height) again! I always liked them being "smaller" mainly because of the real animal angle, but also because of the energy saving thing, and because it made the G1 guys look more legendary and archaic in comparison. Like you were supposed to empathize with the beast warriors, and then look at the old guzzlers in awe. A bit like having a smartphone, then looking at one of those 50's supercomputers and all the work they required to operate.

Something else of note is that Bob Forward once said that the decision to make them small wasn't fully set in stone until the final scene of "The Agenda (Part III)". Before that, their size fluctuated throughout Seasons 1-2. An example he pointed out was a shot in "Code of Hero" where Dinobot overlooks the human valley being attacked by the Predacons while the sun sets in the background behind him. Forward said that, in that shot, Dinobot was animated as being 30 feet tall.

Interesting. Although they usually appeared close to other animals, and were relatively in scale with them. Maybe he was talking about an artistic thing? Because it's nuts how much they lie with sizes in-software relative to what you see on screen in 3D animation. Like, maybe they had to make Dinobot that big so that relative sizes and light looked right.

I'm glad they've kept the sizes relative (certainly makes life easier for Studio Series who try to keep bot modes in scale with each other). Plus it was kind of silly trying to disguise yourself as animals when disguises weren't needed. If I recall I think there was only one scene where disguising as an animal had any payoff and that was with Tigatron.

Come to think of it, animal scales didn't matter anyway in the beast wars cartoon, especially amongst the predacons.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm glad they've kept the sizes relative (certainly makes life easier for Studio Series who try to keep bot modes in scale with each other). Plus it was kind of silly trying to disguise yourself as animals when disguises weren't needed. If I recall I think there was only one scene where disguising as an animal had any payoff and that was with Tigatron.

Come to think of it, animal scales didn't matter anyway in the beast wars cartoon, especially amongst the predacons.

I get some people prefer them as large robots. But I prefer them to be proper animals, seems like a more fun concept with more interesting questions. Plus, the movie happens during the 90's, so an animal disguise isn't useless. Logic is not like a big concern either way, since they set the movie on latin america and gave the marketing a pre-columbian american theme while the maximal cast is all african animals.

Maximals and Predacons being small in the cartoon felt to me like an evolution of micromaster technology. The downsizing of Cybertronians had the benefit of saving energy as well as interacting with other species.

I'm assuming the ROTB Maximals will not be from the future, but contemporaries of the Autobots, so being the same size makes sense. I don't mind this at all, but I would have had them be closer to Arcee and Bumblebee in height. Seeing a cheetah dwarf a car is a bit jarring!

Ultimately, I'm less concerned about scale as I am about the quality of the film, but the trailer hints at a solid story and makes me very excited to see how they portray all of the bots. It's looking pretty good so far.

Time travel is supposedly in the film (if i remember correctly) so no, disguise still won't be any issue really. Only question will be, if time travel is involved, will the maximals be the autobots future? Or will they opt for a simpler solution...that the maximals are the Autobot's ancestors.

Going to be fun to see where they're going with it. I also hope things are on track with the solo beast wars movie now that DC's Blue Beetle movie has started shooting.

Whifflefire wrote:Maximals and Predacons being small in the cartoon felt to me like an evolution of micromaster technology. The downsizing of Cybertronians had the benefit of saving energy as well as interacting with other species.

I'm assuming the ROTB Maximals will not be from the future, but contemporaries of the Autobots, so being the same size makes sense. I don't mind this at all, but I would have had them be closer to Arcee and Bumblebee in height. Seeing a cheetah dwarf a car is a bit jarring!

Ultimately, I'm less concerned about scale as I am about the quality of the film, but the trailer hints at a solid story and makes me very excited to see how they portray all of the bots. It's looking pretty good so far.

Oh, the movie being good is obviously a priority. But visuals and design is a part of that "being good", specially in action movies. "Story" is not everything. I love animals and I'm a visual guy, so those two things gave me a certain expectation or wish that this movie clearly won't deliver. Just my opinion, it's not like I'll rage over a movie, but I thought it could be an interesting point of discussion. Being a fan of Transformers toys means there's some extra expectations attached to the visual side too. Maybe I'll get what I want on Beast Wars' 35th anniversary, lol.

Edit: Hwat, there's a solo Beast Wars movie in the works? Or is it just one of those preproduction things?

I think both sides of the size difference arguments have merit.

I think on screen and story-wise, them being smaller would have made for a more interesting dynamic. Then again, this director probably couldn't pull it off without a heavy hand by Bay being included.

But the point is to sell toys, and as that's been pointed out, having small beasts would play hell with the SS scale.

Also, to Bob Forward's comment regarding size, Cheetor was the same size as regular cheetahs in the very 1st episode, and the same with Tigatron later on. So unless there's mass-shifting going on during Transformation, there's no reason for Dinobot to be 30 feet tall. Of course, that is possible.

I do have 1 other gripe I forgot to mention earlier. It's about the title. "Rise of the Beasts." Seems so generic and uninspired. A lot of movies have this subtitle with "Rise" in it. I just think something else would have been more creative. But with this director I'm not surprised. I wonder if it was Hasbro's suggestion. Either way I'm assuming they got the final say-so and they approved it. I think perhaps "War of the Beasts" might have been more appropriate and a nod to the origins of the beast characters.

They probably wouldn't have gone with war of the beasts since they're likely going to just call the spin off movie, "Beast Wars" assuming it still happens. In fact, that's probably why they went with Rise. They're basically just signposting that these characters are getting their own thing.

ZeroWolf wrote:They probably wouldn't have gone with war of the beasts since they're likely going to just call the spin off movie, "Beast Wars" assuming it still happens. In fact, that's probably why they went with Rise. They're basically just signposting that these characters are getting their own thing.

Well that was just a suggestion on my part, not saying it HAD to be that. But I still think "Rise" has been used a lot with franchise movies.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:They probably wouldn't have gone with war of the beasts since they're likely going to just call the spin off movie, "Beast Wars" assuming it still happens. In fact, that's probably why they went with Rise. They're basically just signposting that these characters are getting their own thing.

Well that was just a suggestion on my part, not saying it HAD to be that. But I still think "Rise" has been used a lot with franchise movies.

Oh definitely, it needs a rest I think. Though that may because I still link it in my head to that ill-fated (and over hyped) computer game from the 90s, Rise of the Robots.

For the movie title I'd have gone for Tansformers: Name Slap


As for something I'd like to see in the movie would be a terrorcon talking to their 'gun' or the 'gun' talking/influencing them/them seeming mad for it to later transform to megs or galvy. But much like with Bumblebee not actually using cassette bots in a retro movie with cassettes, it won't happen.

Might be cool visually if the trailer gets fan modded to dinobots instead of the beasts and Wheelie walking out of Jazz.

blackeyedprime wrote:For the movie title I'd have gone for Tansformers: Name Slap


As for something I'd like to see in the movie would be a terrorcon talking to their 'gun' or the 'gun' talking/influencing them/them seeming mad for it to later transform to megs or galvy. But much like with Bumblebee not actually using cassette bots in a retro movie with cassettes, it won't happen.

Might be cool visually if the trailer gets fan modded to dinobots instead of the beasts and Wheelie walking out of Jazz.

In a movie whose characters are destined to become toy's, you certainly aren't seeing gun formers plus the only Megatron you'll probably see in the movie, will be a purple dinosaur teased at the end (probably, this is a guess)

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:this is also the first film not to use ILM

I didn't realise that! Nothing about the teaser made me think it was anyone but ILM - well done to the team!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Peter Dinklage as Scourge?

HOW DARE HE?

Scourge is not a Dwarf, he's a giant alien robot. Why can't they cast a giant alien robot in the role?

#giantrobotrepresentationmatter

Guillermo1790 wrote:Ignoring the obvious unfinished CGI, the character designs look AMAZING! Being a ¨Beast Wars¨ era kid, I think the Maximals look better than expected (Cheetor, I´m waiting for your figure).

I always find so weird that the so called ¨fans¨ tend to be the more judgmental with these movies, I know they could be better, but let´s be honest, without the movies, the Transformers lore in general wouldn´t be as big as it is.

(BTW, this is my first comment ever! Even though I´ve been on Seibertron.com for years now, Hi everyone)

I'm buzzed for this film too!
The Bay films killed my expectations in the past,
but since BUMBLEBEE,
I have decided that I can feel hope and even JOY again for a Transformers film!

On top of that, like you, I am thrilled by the design so far.
They will clean it up and add some color, of course.
Just watch.

But most of all,
I love that they allowed PRIMAL to actually be bigger than PRIME!

Still hoping for Prime's rifle, though.
As far as I believe, Cybertronians can have both:
The difference being that the built in blaster draws from one's own reserves of Energon, while an external rifle would utilize its own ammunition.
For example, on TFP; BULKHEAD has his own blasters, but that doesn't stop him from picking up a rifle from Ultra Magnus's armory.

Sabrblade wrote:The funny thing about the Maximals being human-sized instead of giant-sized, that's only ever been the case in just the original Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (and their comic/prose spin-offs from BotCon, Dreamwave, and IDW). Virtually everything else they have ever appeared in has depicted them as giant-sized. Same with the Predacons.

The Japanese Beast Wars cartoons, Car Robots/RID 2001, RobotMasters, IDW1, the Prime Wars Trilogy, the War For Cybertron Trilogy, etc.

Great point.

Between the cool transformations and the hologram stunt, Mirage is clearly the main spotlight og the trailer.

Also, funny how some fans keep saying "but Mirage had invisibility, Hound was the one with the holograms, this will only confuse fans!", yet nearly every reaction I saw that knows Transformer names immeadiately identifies Mirage once the hologram trick comes up . Plus, y'know, the bios by Budiansky said Mirage had illusions and Hound had holographic maps, so...

Interesting to note the "enemies from your past and your future" line. Are the Maximals time-travellers here as well, or somehow precognitive? Maybe this is what turns the film into a "true" reboot, somehow changing past events so the Bay films stop being in continuity?

X3ROhour wrote:

Guillermo1790 wrote:Ignoring the obvious unfinished CGI, the character designs look AMAZING! Being a ¨Beast Wars¨ era kid, I think the Maximals look better than expected (Cheetor, I´m waiting for your figure).

I always find so weird that the so called ¨fans¨ tend to be the more judgmental with these movies, I know they could be better, but let´s be honest, without the movies, the Transformers lore in general wouldn´t be as big as it is.

(BTW, this is my first comment ever! Even though I´ve been on Seibertron.com for years now, Hi everyone)

I'm buzzed for this film too!
The Bay films killed my expectations in the past,
but since BUMBLEBEE,
I have decided that I can feel hope and even JOY again for a Transformers film!

On top of that, like you, I am thrilled by the design so far.
They will clean it up and add some color, of course.
Just watch.

But most of all,
I love that they allowed PRIMAL to actually be bigger than PRIME!

Still hoping for Prime's rifle, though.
As far as I believe, Cybertronians can have both:
The difference being that the built in blaster draws from one's own reserves of Energon, while an external rifle would utilize its own ammunition.
For example, on TFP; BULKHEAD has his own blasters, but that doesn't stop him from picking up a rifle from Ultra Magnus's armory.

I'm also enjoying most of the designs so far (haven't seen enough of the Terrorcons to get an opinion). My only critique is that Primal's tranformation from gorilla to robot is too minimal, but that's a common issue with humanoid robots with ape modes; the body structure is too similar between both to make an involved transformation.

As for the weapons, I'd say external weaponry actually make far more sense from a safety/practicality point of view: they're easier to switch around and replace, don't use the bot's own resources for function or maintenance, and in case of malfunction or damage (particularly a blaster misfire) it's easier to avoid damaging the bot's own anatomy. I could see built-in weaponry being less of a widespread thing, either a characteristic of a Cybertronian subspecies or specialized military modifications, with the necessary secondary features to use them efficiently.

Frankly, I never understood why some people don't accept robots using handheld weaponry, just like I never understood "they turn into vehicles, why do they use spaceships?". I mean, we have legs; why don't we use them instead of cars and planes to travel within a continent?

I was impressed by what I saw, design-wise in the trailer. I think the comments I've read on YouTube and elsewhere, asking where are the Predacons. Might be a little overly optimistic. Scourge and the Terrorcons are clearly The antagonists in this story. However, the Predacons aren't entirely absent from marketing from the film. So in a bizarre twist. I'm getting a Car Robots type vibe? Which could work.



Scourge being a truck, with Beast Formers in tow. That is an intentional reference.

MaximalNui wrote:Between the cool transformations and the hologram stunt, Mirage is clearly the main spotlight og the trailer.

Also, funny how some fans keep saying "but Mirage had invisibility, Hound was the one with the holograms, this will only confuse fans!", yet nearly every reaction I saw that knows Transformer names immeadiately identifies Mirage once the hologram trick comes up . Plus, y'know, the bios by Budiansky said Mirage had illusions and Hound had holographic maps, so...

Interesting to note the "enemies from your past and your future" line. Are the Maximals time-travellers here as well, or somehow precognitive? Maybe this is what turns the film into a "true" reboot, somehow changing past events so the Bay films stop being in continuity?

X3ROhour wrote:

Guillermo1790 wrote:Ignoring the obvious unfinished CGI, the character designs look AMAZING! Being a ¨Beast Wars¨ era kid, I think the Maximals look better than expected (Cheetor, I´m waiting for your figure).

I always find so weird that the so called ¨fans¨ tend to be the more judgmental with these movies, I know they could be better, but let´s be honest, without the movies, the Transformers lore in general wouldn´t be as big as it is.

(BTW, this is my first comment ever! Even though I´ve been on Seibertron.com for years now, Hi everyone)

I'm buzzed for this film too!
The Bay films killed my expectations in the past,
but since BUMBLEBEE,
I have decided that I can feel hope and even JOY again for a Transformers film!

On top of that, like you, I am thrilled by the design so far.
They will clean it up and add some color, of course.
Just watch.

But most of all,
I love that they allowed PRIMAL to actually be bigger than PRIME!

Still hoping for Prime's rifle, though.
As far as I believe, Cybertronians can have both:
The difference being that the built in blaster draws from one's own reserves of Energon, while an external rifle would utilize its own ammunition.
For example, on TFP; BULKHEAD has his own blasters, but that doesn't stop him from picking up a rifle from Ultra Magnus's armory.

I'm also enjoying most of the designs so far (haven't seen enough of the Terrorcons to get an opinion). My only critique is that Primal's tranformation from gorilla to robot is too minimal, but that's a common issue with humanoid robots with ape modes; the body structure is too similar between both to make an involved transformation.

As for the weapons, I'd say external weaponry actually make far more sense from a safety/practicality point of view: they're easier to switch around and replace, don't use the bot's own resources for function or maintenance, and in case of malfunction or damage (particularly a blaster misfire) it's easier to avoid damaging the bot's own anatomy. I could see built-in weaponry being less of a widespread thing, either a characteristic of a Cybertronian subspecies or specialized military modifications, with the necessary secondary features to use them efficiently.

Frankly, I never understood why some people don't accept robots using handheld weaponry, just like I never understood "they turn into vehicles, why do they use spaceships?". I mean, we have legs; why don't we use them instead of cars and planes to travel within a continent?

I've wondered about that time travel aspect as soon as we knew it was involved. However I still don't think those involved care enough to make it a reboot in that sense. William also did an excellent article about continuity a week or so ago.

Bumblebee fans get Bumblebee!
Optimus Prime fans get Optimus Prime!
Arcee fans get Arcee!
Abominus/Terrorcon fans get...........SCOURGE & NIGHTBIRD??? WTF?

Abominus is my favorite combiner. Explain to me why I should be interested in this movie.

My favorite Autobot is Wheeljack. Don't even get me started on that one.

I'd like to strangle a couple people on the production team. Knowing my luck, next time one of my favorite characters shows up in a live-action movie it will probably transform into a toilet.

The director of the next (and 7th) live action Transformers movie, Rise of the Beasts, spoke to BET after the trailer dropped. Steven Caple Jr. spoke about the importance of telling a Black and Latino story through the film, along with the song chosen for the trailer and how that fits into this story and representation.

We have excerpts from the interview for you below and you can access the full article here: https://www.bet.com/article/7vzeq8/tran ... ls-trailer

“It’s been two years now — Anthony [Ramos, who plays the lead male role] and I talk about having this type of opportunity but also understanding it’s our time. For us to be in this position where we can tell a story about our culture, our people, and see ourselves portrayed on the big screen blending in with these vast genres is special. There are not too many people on the actor or director side to be in this position on this scale and scope, and we’re doing our best to carry this weight. No matter how many times [Anthony] and I look at each other on set, tired and all, we realize we’re able to do something special and for a reason. We created something special, and it feels great to be in this position — super honored and blessed.”

“The movie takes place in the 90s when the album Ready Or Die was released, so that’s why [Juicy] was the perfect record to choose. His voice and what he meant in that era and time captures much of what we’re doing in the film. Fishback, who originally is from Brooklyn — her character and Ramos's character have a lot of big dreams and hit glass ceilings but ultimately become the heroes saving the world discreetly as that’s how the Transformer laws are. You have these average folks transforming into something huge and special we didn't know existed, so the record was a right move — it was our anthem on set, so we played Biggie or Anthony was singing [The Tempations].”

In terms of how the seventh installment will elevate the franchise, Ramos feels the new characters, especially with Black and Brown people in leading roles, will play a factor.

“We have new elements and characters, with Black and Brown people in the lead roles,” he said.
“Things have expanded, and with me being from New York, where the story is set in Brooklyn, this feels like it’s for all my homies in the projects. [Steven] and the creative team allowed us to tell a story in a major franchise like [Transformers] in a part of New York that doesn’t always get highlighted in this kind of way. The series saw Shia LeBeouf and Mark Wahlberg as the lead, and now it’s me. It was Megan Fox, Nicola Peltz, and now Dominique. This film incorporates the Beast wars, the Terrorcons — it’s going crazy.”

Just tell us a good story! This is about transformers. Really hope they don’t drive this as the marketing directive. Did we learn nothing from the Merlin storyline lol. We want big robots on screen transforming and having characterizations. I look forward to this as well as am very apprehensive. Archee is a toy I will be grabbing for sure though! That mirage Porsche is sweet too!

I knew it! I'm glad my instincts about this movie were right. Now I don't have to waste any more time being even mildly curious. After all, it's for "the homies."

This is a good thing. In the first five movies, Tyrese was the only one given any kind of dignity in his performance. Everyone else was treated like a joke.

Wow, a large corporation proclaiming the political and social relevance of it's latest product.

And so another pop culture franchise is ruined forever by some leftist-woke-social-globalist-satanic agenda, and after the first 6 live action movies were so perfect and universally beloved by all of fandom--oh, wait...

Oh for F's sake why are they bringing freaking identity politics as part of the marketing? AGAIN? They sound like the movie was made to appeal only to black and latino AMERICANS.

NO ONE CARE ABOUT THE HUMANS, BRING US GIANT ROBOTS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Previously, we had James Cameron talking about "toxic testosterone" for Avatar 2. At least for ROTB, they didn't say "white pepple bad." Hollywood should remember that their movies should appeal to THE WHOLE WORLD in order to be profitable and poisoning the well is not a good marketing strategy.

So after the success of Bumblebee being about a robot and the girl that helps him, we're right back to "The Transformers" where the robots are background characters to the bloody humans. Ah well.

Still, if they can tell a decent story and have the Transformers front and centre with the humans, great. But how did they not hear the collective Transformers community say "We want more of the Cybertron segment of Bumblebee!"?

~ Grim

Big Grim wrote:So after the success of Bumblebee being about a robot and the girl that helps him, we're right back to "The Transformers" where the robots are background characters to the bloody humans. Ah well.

Still, if they can tell a decent story and have the Transformers front and centre with the humans, great. But how did they not hear the collective Transformers community say "We want more of the Cybertron segment of Bumblebee!"?

~ Grim

Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.

ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.

Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?

Lol, imagine getting triggered so hard by a piece of marketing.

I'm just waiting for the day when we have a transformer movie. No humans. Just giant robots.

Cheetron wrote:I'm just waiting for the day when we have a transformer movie. No humans. Just giant robots.

Does Paramount do animated movies? Because it would essentially be an animated movie. I think there was a sort of set-on-Cybertron prequel in preproduction.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.

Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?

woke poison…wow. Sometimes you can just smell fans in their posts

ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.

This is the first I've heard of that.

~ Grim

Rtron wrote:Lol, imagine getting triggered so hard by a piece of marketing.

Laugh all you want but it's the "death by a thousand cuts" syndrome. By its lonesome its not that bad. But Hollywood shove identity politics hardcore since years, often sabotaging their own movie or the whole franchise in the process. The put on a pedestal things that should NOT matter in the movie. Race, gender, sexual orientation, NONE OF THIS MATTER. The stories and characters are. If I want to see a movie "celebrating Latino culture" I'll watch Coco.

I want to see a movie about Transformers and Transformers culture. But the marketing say that's not what I'm going to get.

I'm tired of this kind of marketing: