Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery!

Thursday, July 29th, 2010 5:35PM CDT

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Check out this unintentional bit of imagery showcasing text for a couple of items you don't normally see on the packaging of children's toys: Cigarrettes and the Lottery! It's not a big deal, just kind of something funny. Looks like someone wasn't paying attention. Oops!

Hopefully this is considered something really minor which doesn't require a recall on this highly desired toy.

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Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105616)
Posted by Name_Violation on July 29th, 2010 @ 5:40pm CDT

scandalgate

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105624)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 29th, 2010 @ 5:45pm CDT

No offense, but posting this certainly won't help matters, at all. I realize Hasbro did this unintentionally, and it fits because it looks like a scene ripped right out of the movie(s), and it shouldn't be there, but drawing this kind of attention to it is only going to help make matters worse.

I think posting this was a bad idea, no matter who would've posted it.

I don't think there will be a recall, but I do think there will be a packaging change, and I'll bet these cigarette originals will climb in price down the road.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105626)
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2010 @ 5:48pm CDT

Autobot032 wrote:No offense, but posting this certainly won't help matters, at all. I realize Hasbro did this unintentionally, and it fits because it looks like a scene ripped right out of the movie(s), and it shouldn't be there, but drawing this kind of attention to it is only going to help make matters worse.

I think posting this was a bad idea, no matter who would've posted it.

I don't think there will be a recall, but I do think there will be a packaging change, and I'll bet these cigarette originals will climb in price down the road.

I understand and respect your concern(s). We're here to report the news whether it be positive, negative, favorable, or unfavorable. Someone would've posted this eventually.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105628)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 29th, 2010 @ 5:51pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:No offense, but posting this certainly won't help matters, at all. I realize Hasbro did this unintentionally, and it fits because it looks like a scene ripped right out of the movie(s), and it shouldn't be there, but drawing this kind of attention to it is only going to help make matters worse.

I think posting this was a bad idea, no matter who would've posted it.

I don't think there will be a recall, but I do think there will be a packaging change, and I'll bet these cigarette originals will climb in price down the road.

I understand and respect your concern(s). We're here to report the news whether it be positive, negative, favorable, or unfavorable. Someone would've posted this eventually.

I appreciate you being able to take my comments as such. I'm glad they were taken as I intended. I do think parents groups are going to have a field day with this one. And this time Hasbro might've done themselves some damage. The groups might actually win this one because it looks like they're advocating both cigarettes and gambling. They're not, but you won't be able to talk to the groups about it.

Someone's always advocating something, even if it's ridiculous.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105633)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CDT

This is a very minor issue in my opinion and almost a non issue. Most kids don't pay attention to the packaging, they just tear it open and toss it in the trash. People are too overprotective with kids today. People just need to lighten up.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105634)
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:07pm CDT

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:People just need to lighten up.

I agree

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105636)
Posted by Blackstreak on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:16pm CDT

LOL! Now thats funny. Don't know about you but I've always seen 'state minimum' in reference to alcohol, not cigarettes.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105640)
Posted by Psychout on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:25pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:People just need to lighten up.
I agree

Was going to say that, but those of you who did get this release stand to make a tidy sum as long as its still sealed.

Hysterical recall due in in 5...4...3...2...

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105645)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:32pm CDT

Stupid question time;

Are those real?! :lol:

Edit:

I now realize that they're fake posters, not tickets. Thought they were tickets, my bad. :lol:

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105648)
Posted by Samurai Bludgeon on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:40pm CDT

o god...

2 things will happen here jsut you wait

1-hasbro will do a recall cuz they can't have the PR nightmare that would entail.

2-MISB HA Jazz's with that packaging will become stupidly expensive...get yours now

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105654)
Posted by Blackstreak on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:53pm CDT

For such a small deal it sure gets blown up out of porportion. Hasbro will probably change the packaging on the next runs, thats a good thing. Those of you with this original packaging have got yourselves a collectible. Makes me wanna go buy one and store it away.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105657)
Posted by constructicon00 on July 29th, 2010 @ 6:59pm CDT

It would appear I'll be looking for this now. I'm hoping it will pay for a semester of school for one of the boys in 15 years... :-B

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105704)
Posted by Galvatron X on July 29th, 2010 @ 8:46pm CDT

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:This is a very minor issue in my opinion and almost a non issue. Most kids don't pay attention to the packaging, they just tear it open and toss it in the trash. People are too overprotective with kids today. People just need to lighten up.

THANK YOU! This is NOTHING. They will change the packaging I betcha cuz some hypersensitive PC turd will claim this adversely affected his poor, vulnerable child. Then they'll send him to a counselor who will diagnose him with ADHD and prescribe him some Ritalin.

Can ya tell I don't like how wimpy and PC our society is today? :lol:

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105709)
Posted by vectorA3 on July 29th, 2010 @ 8:49pm CDT

sounds like somebody's pushin for a packaging variant......

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105722)
Posted by Chupacabra Convoy on July 29th, 2010 @ 9:06pm CDT

I wonder where those images are taken from? I want to say Chicago, but I fairly certain that other states/cities have a Powerball, and of course Cigarettes.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105738)
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2010 @ 9:26pm CDT

Chupacabra Convoy wrote:I wonder where those images are taken from? I want to say Chicago, but I fairly certain that other states/cities have a Powerball, and of course Cigarettes.

Isn't this image from the city scene at the end of the first movie?

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105741)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 29th, 2010 @ 9:29pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
Chupacabra Convoy wrote:I wonder where those images are taken from? I want to say Chicago, but I fairly certain that other states/cities have a Powerball, and of course Cigarettes.

Isn't this image from the city scene at the end of the first movie?

I think it is. It would at least make more sense if it is.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105810)
Posted by Flashwave on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:40am CDT

Autobot032 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Chupacabra Convoy wrote:I wonder where those images are taken from? I want to say Chicago, but I fairly certain that other states/cities have a Powerball, and of course Cigarettes.

Isn't this image from the city scene at the end of the first movie?

I think it is. It would at least make more sense if it is.

Since Jazz was slagged before the end of the first movie, yes, yes it would...

I gotta go with the earlier replies. This is news? No offence meant, but the packaging doesn't seem like newsworthy stuff. I could be wrong though. If I grab this, the packaging will hit the can about 15minutes after Jazz is free, with the motorbike. I could care less about Epps, but I missed out on Alternators Jazz. Then again, my Alt collection is 2 and a forklift versus 12, Autobot favor, so Dead End and Swindle would probably prefer I not, or find them a Barricade. (he never made it to Central Indiana that I know of)

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105823)
Posted by Seibertron on July 30th, 2010 @ 1:13am CDT

It's definitely news worthy stuff. At a minimum, it's an interesting piece of conversation about an unusual piece of imagery that ended up on a Transformers packaging. To me, it's newsworthy, especially if the packaging changes at some point.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105835)
Posted by Vicalliose on July 30th, 2010 @ 1:58am CDT

Since were on the subject.
One time, a while back when I was out of town looking for HFTD figures.
I passed by a mother and her two kids whom seemed to be purchasing a number of Hot Wheels.
Normaly I wouldn't pay a bit of attention to people in the store, but this time they caught my eye when I saw that the mother appeared to just be placing whatever the kids pointed at in the cart.
"Spoiled brats" I thought. "then again, I was pretty spoiled when I was a kid."
My gaze then turned to the mother's hand as she placed another package of Hot Wheels in the cart.
I saw that there was a Nintendo DS game inside of the cart as well. Grand Theft Auto...
I then looked up at the mother's face, and saw that she was on her cell phone.
Had a hard time avoiding my letting out a little chuckle at that point.

The moral of the story? Massive stereotypes do exist. Oh, and that parent's don't pay enough attention to their kids nowadays. Unless of course, it gives them a lack luster excuse to sue somebody. Otherwise they just send their kids to school and pay as little attention to them as possible.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105881)
Posted by Mykltron on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:40am CDT

Seibertron wrote:It's definitely news worthy stuff. At a minimum, it's an interesting piece of conversation about an unusual piece of imagery that ended up on a Transformers packaging. To me, it's newsworthy, especially if the packaging changes at some point.

It's newsworthy if only because of the amusement factor or advertising age-restricted things in a kid's toy. That combined with the warning that the price of these will likely skyrocket is definitely news.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105932)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:31am CDT

This is 100% taken from photos of some convenience store in Pennsylvania.

At the bottom left corner is the real Pennsylvania Lottery Logo:

And PA has a "State Minimum" on Cigarettes.

This is a real photo that got adjusted in Photoshop to look hand painted.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1105935)
Posted by vectorA3 on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:35am CDT

that's some sharp detective work Razorclaw. impressive

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106030)
Posted by SLUGSLINGER81 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:49am CDT

After seeing this I have the sudden urge to have a smoke, do some gambling and buy a Pontiac Solstice...hmmm, interesting. :lol:

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106043)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:02am CDT

SLUGSLINGER81 wrote:After seeing this I have the sudden urge to have a smoke, do some gambling and buy a Pontiac Solstice...hmmm, interesting.

All three things that are really bad for you ;-P

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106056)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:18am CDT

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
SLUGSLINGER81 wrote:After seeing this I have the sudden urge to have a smoke, do some gambling and buy a Pontiac Solstice...hmmm, interesting.

All three things that are really bad for you ;-P

Too bad Pontiac was kicked to the curb and went outta business. As much as I want one, I havent seen an eye or hair of a Solstice in my town. :-(

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106076)
Posted by Ramscreamer on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:45am CDT

*gasp!*
This can only mean that every kid that buys this toy will grow up to become a smoking gambler!

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106078)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:53am CDT

ramscreamer wrote:*gasp!*
This can only mean that every kid that buys this toy will grow up to become a smoking gambler!

And buy a Pontiac.

Oh, wait... never mind, we're safe from that.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106149)
Posted by Starscream on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:17pm CDT

I like how this topic essentially says 'Jazz Cigarettes' in the title.

Smoke 'em up!!!!!

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106168)
Posted by Name_Violation on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:41pm CDT

off topic, but holy crap, we have a quick reply option now

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106170)
Posted by kirbenvost on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:44pm CDT

Careful, smoking causes cancer.

"Get your @$$ checked before it's too late!"

Wrong kind, but still. XD

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106239)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 30th, 2010 @ 3:07pm CDT

Good catch Razorclaw. Sadly, the cigarette prices in PA haven't been that low in a long time.

A no name store brand of cigarette is $5.00 a pack now. Marlboro and the like are close to $5.75 with tax.

I don't smoke, but my Father does, and it's part of my job to go and buy 'em for him. He always says "When it gets to (insert amount here), I'll quit!" and he said that dollars ago.

His cigarettes alone, break us.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106244)
Posted by Seibertron on July 30th, 2010 @ 3:17pm CDT

Autobot032 wrote:Good catch Razorclaw. Sadly, the cigarette prices in PA haven't been that low in a long time.

A no name store brand of cigarette is $5.00 a pack now. Marlboro and the like are close to $5.75 with tax.

I don't smoke, but my Father does, and it's part of my job to go and buy 'em for him. He always says "When it gets to (insert amount here), I'll quit!" and he said that dollars ago.

His cigarettes alone, break us.

Wait until they're $8+ a pack like they are in Chicago and New York

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106246)
Posted by DavidT on July 30th, 2010 @ 3:19pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Good catch Razorclaw. Sadly, the cigarette prices in PA haven't been that low in a long time.

A no name store brand of cigarette is $5.00 a pack now. Marlboro and the like are close to $5.75 with tax.

I don't smoke, but my Father does, and it's part of my job to go and buy 'em for him. He always says "When it gets to (insert amount here), I'll quit!" and he said that dollars ago.

His cigarettes alone, break us.

Wait until they're $8+ a pack like they are in Chicago and New York

I thought they were almost $10 in New York already... I don't smoke, but if I did, that dollar amount would be enough to make me quit and/or find something else LOL

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106271)
Posted by Rated X on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:18pm CDT

LMAO !!!

Im gonna try to buy one just because this is really funny. I admit that I have no kids, but I think parents are too paranoid these days and need a reality check. The more you censor every stupid little thing, the more you build a childs curiousity. Parents create their own "evils" by creating issues that dont even need to exist.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106280)
Posted by Name_Violation on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:35pm CDT

DavidT wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Good catch Razorclaw. Sadly, the cigarette prices in PA haven't been that low in a long time.

A no name store brand of cigarette is $5.00 a pack now. Marlboro and the like are close to $5.75 with tax.

I don't smoke, but my Father does, and it's part of my job to go and buy 'em for him. He always says "When it gets to (insert amount here), I'll quit!" and he said that dollars ago.

His cigarettes alone, break us.

Wait until they're $8+ a pack like they are in Chicago and New York

I thought they were almost $10 in New York already... I don't smoke, but if I did, that dollar amount would be enough to make me quit and/or find something else LOL

Name brand smokes are about $6 here in California. I'm "quitting" because of poverty, not my health. i aint bought a pack in over a month, but i still manage to smoke 1-3 a day. good thing I've never been a heavy smoker to begin with

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106424)
Posted by REGIFISHY on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:02pm CDT

You know somebody will totally over-react and start threatening hasbro. Even IF you can only read the signs by magnifying an image to an insanely high level. I honestly don't think they'll go so far as to recall it, changing the packaging is the worst they can do.

And what's so "inappropriate." about the lottery? Cigarettes I can see though.

Also, notice how those are the ONLY two signs visible? If you ask me I think that they're there purpose. :shock:

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106436)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:31pm CDT

REGIFISHY wrote:You know somebody will totally over-react and start threatening hasbro. Even IF you can only read the signs by magnifying an image to an insanely high level. I honestly don't think they'll go so far as to recall it, changing the packaging is the worst they can do.

And what's so "inappropriate." about the lottery? Cigarettes I can see though.

Also, notice how those are the ONLY two signs visible? If you ask me I think that they're there purpose.

Well, in general, the lottery isn't a problem. If you're in the know, most lotteries end up putting their proceeds in local schools, elderly care, etc. People won't recognize that, they'll automatically go to "Lottery = gambling. Gambling's bad, mmmkay?" and silliness will ensue.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106524)
Posted by kirbenvost on July 31st, 2010 @ 2:08am CDT

lol, I'm glad I don't smoke, I think our cigs are like $13 a pack here.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106544)
Posted by Mykltron on July 31st, 2010 @ 3:39am CDT

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

This is 100% taken from photos of some convenience store in Pennsylvania.

At the bottom left corner is the real Pennsylvania Lottery Logo:

And PA has a "State Minimum" on Cigarettes.

This is a real photo that got adjusted in Photoshop to look hand painted.

Are you sure they don't just look bad because the pic has been taken through plastic blown up?

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1106966)
Posted by vectorA3 on July 31st, 2010 @ 10:47pm CDT

Remember to buy a 40 and some fireworks too!

Can you imagine Jazz trying to backpedal out of this in a PSA? "A... smokin and gambling and drinking and fireworks ain't cool...." "Stay in school!"

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107381)
Posted by Praxus Prime on August 1st, 2010 @ 6:50pm CDT

*sigh* All this talk about Pontiac is gettin' me down... We have plenty of Solstices around here in south-eastern TN, and it's sad that nobody will ever get a new one again.
As far as the toy goes, I can't wait to get it, and hopefully this little package 'incident' won't make it take longer to hit shelves around here.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107570)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 2nd, 2010 @ 6:43am CDT

Mykltron wrote:
Are you sure they don't just look bad because the pic has been taken through plastic blown up?

I was able to find mine Friday afternoon and the whole background looks like it was a real photo and then had a Photoshop filter applied to it to give it the "film grain" feeling. Ryan's using a high enough megapixel camera that the grain and blur didn't come from the camera but was in the source image.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107704)
Posted by paul053 on August 2nd, 2010 @ 12:38pm CDT

Quit smoking and gambling. Spend them instead on the plastic toys.

Bought one today. Hasbro, you can recall it now.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107824)
Posted by Valandar on August 2nd, 2010 @ 5:08pm CDT

Heh, got one today, myself, and even my Mom said "Save the package, they might change it for future waves - or even recall it!"

Which I doubt they'd even care enough to do.

On the other hand, holy COW this is the best figure of the line so far! The joints were a bit tighter than I really felt comfortable with, especially the joints on the back fenders, but it is otherwise GORGEOUS. He's remarkably movie accurate, and highly articulated, and the sliding visor gimmick means the top of the head can also flip up - like Ratchet's finishing putting his brain back in a new body, or something.

Such a shame the best figure of the line is for a character already dead in the movieverse.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107957)
Posted by Flux Convoy on August 2nd, 2010 @ 10:29pm CDT

So Jazz is hitting Target primarily? I need to get him. I've got all the others so far and I do like the way he looks too.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107962)
Posted by Valandar on August 2nd, 2010 @ 10:40pm CDT

Flux Convoy wrote:So Jazz is hitting Target primarily? I need to get him. I've got all the others so far and I do like the way he looks too.

That's where I got mine, but I'd expect him to show up at Wal-Mart when they do their seasonal rotation. And so far he's the best of them all, IMHO.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107969)
Posted by Flux Convoy on August 2nd, 2010 @ 11:05pm CDT

Valandar wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote:So Jazz is hitting Target primarily? I need to get him. I've got all the others so far and I do like the way he looks too.

That's where I got mine, but I'd expect him to show up at Wal-Mart when they do their seasonal rotation. And so far he's the best of them all, IMHO.

Ok, cool thanks. I might try to get to Target in the morning then. I really dig Skids more than any of the others so far. I really enjoy his deco. Getting ready to fiddle with Mudflap who just arrived today.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107980)
Posted by Valandar on August 2nd, 2010 @ 11:17pm CDT

Flux Convoy wrote:
Valandar wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote:So Jazz is hitting Target primarily? I need to get him. I've got all the others so far and I do like the way he looks too.

That's where I got mine, but I'd expect him to show up at Wal-Mart when they do their seasonal rotation. And so far he's the best of them all, IMHO.

Ok, cool thanks. I might try to get to Target in the morning then. I really dig Skids more than any of the others so far. I really enjoy his deco. Getting ready to fiddle with Mudflap who just arrived today.

Ugh. I don't normally say this, but I just can NOT get past the heads on those two, at pretty much ANY scale. I made the mistake of getting Deluxe Skids, and decided I WON'T make that mistake at the HA scale, or get ANY version of Mudflap.

Re: Human Alliance Jazz, cigarettes, and the lottery! (1107984)
Posted by Flux Convoy on August 2nd, 2010 @ 11:28pm CDT

Fair enough, although Mudflap is the more odd looking of the two. I dunno why, they just clicked with me for some reason. Although I certainly prefer Skids over him. Eh, they aren't everybody's thing. I think I fit a small percentile of the fandom that does like them.

To avoid the derail in progress, Jazz looks great, Lennox is going in a box and that bike will most likely always be a gun in my collection. Although it is a snazzy looking motorcycle.

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