Howard Stern turned down chance to be in the Transformers Movie?

Night Raid wrote:I am SO glad he refused... With so many people already dissing this movie, we don't need any more STUPID in it.

Word up G, all the homies be dissin this yo.

Creepin out to catch a seen of it is gonna be the dirty downlow of the summer.

Night Raid wrote:I am SO glad he refused... With so many people already dissing this movie, we don't need any more STUPID in it.

i disagree with that.
howards great, i listen to him about every day, but he does talk some shit on his show, but i do not doubt he might have had the chance..
it is a novel idea..
i mean, scatman voiced the original jazz, somewhat cliche' as well if you think about it, but it turned out perfect

Would that have been this movie's "dare to be stupid" moment?

As the article says, Stern was not supposed to voice the character, Stern's voice was supposed to come *out* of the stereo speakers at some point. I can't see Frenzy actually "talking" outside of a few electronic zips or something.

I have to say, Howard's agent made a HUGE mistake. First of all Howard Stern IS a radio personality; he's not an Actor OR a movie star by any means. I sure as hell wouldn't recognize him until he started talking. Furthermore, it's just more exposure for him! I would think that ANYONE approached about being in the biggest movie of the summer, especially one that markets to a different demographic than the majority of his regular listeners, would JUMP at the chance! Beyond that, being that Howard Stern IS a radio personality, it would add yet another layer of every day realism to this movie that they are trying so hard to make "Real". I'm disappointed in Howard Stern's agent.

Now if we could just get Casey Kasem...

Well, it makes sence since he's not doing normal radio anymore.
Agents can be odd sometimes. But yea, I also think that the film would get an R rating if Howard says stuff he wants to say on that small bit, but they'd probably make him say some watered down stuff, perhaps.

I'm glad he's not doing it, keep that misogynist pig out of Transformers. That guy has no respect for women, men that act like him make me sick.

It could have been funny if they pulled it off well.

Since Stern isn't going to be in the movie, why not get Casey Kasem instead (Ultra Magnus, you beat me to it!)? He could even be in the middle of his countdown, or something: "And now the #1 song on this day back in 1986..." and The Touch plays. Would have made me laugh.

Another idea would be Art Bell. He could be on his show taking calls about 'shape-shifting alien robots' and doubting the crazies, as usual. Hey, he was good in 'Prey,' he could be good in the TF.

Put Tim Shaw on that Radio!!!!!

I listen to him every day and heard when he was talking about this yesterday.

I think Buckwald (his manager) is making a mistake.

Oh he also mentioned how he thought the movie looked extremely cool.

1337W422102 wrote:It could have been funny if they pulled it off well.

Since Stern isn't going to be in the movie, why not get Casey Kasem instead (Ultra Magnus, you beat me to it!)? He could even be in the middle of his countdown, or something: "And now the #1 song on this day back in 1986..." and The Touch plays. Would have made me laugh.

Another idea would be Art Bell. He could be on his show taking calls about 'shape-shifting alien robots' and doubting the crazies, as usual. Hey, he was good in 'Prey,' he could be good in the TF.

Art Bell would be the most logical choice. I also agree that he was excellent in the "Prey" Videogame/PC Game...

His super agaent Don Buchwald told him this was a bad idea?

I hope Howard fires his ass

If he wants to turn that down that's his choice..but I still don't understand his managers reasoning, how is it a bad thing? Am I to assume his manager doesn't want howard to be associated with radios? Odd. Maybe it's an ego thing. "I'm worth more than just a radio cameo..." which, he's not.

i wouldnt mind if it was the coast to coast AM guy....would sort of go well with the movie being sci-fi and all

Good riddance.

The film is better without him.

I second the nomination of Casey Kasem.

Howard Stern, though...no. Don't want him associated with TF at all. People who find his brand of humor funny need to have their heads examined.

im glad he turned it how guys like that treat woman like crap and have wife of there own while the nice guys that are respectuful are single and have trouble getting woman in there life doesnt make much sense to me.

howard stern agent he is an idiot for twlling him to turn it down the part in the film many poeple who have done voice overs or had small voice parts of there voices added in the films have made it big, peter cullen, frank welker, the guy who does the movie commercials and the 2 guys from the matrix one is playing megatron's voice and the other is playing the silver surfer voice.

if theye decide to still go with this idea i wouldnt mind hereing casey casem.

Bottom Out wrote:i wouldnt mind if it was the coast to coast AM guy....would sort of go well with the movie being sci-fi and all

You mean George Noory? That's a good choice also, but I think Art Bell would be better since he's been doing these Paranormal and UFO topics on his radio show for years...

ZoneDaiatlas wrote:

Bottom Out wrote:i wouldnt mind if it was the coast to coast AM guy....would sort of go well with the movie being sci-fi and all

You mean George Noory? That's a good choice also, but I think Art Bell would be better since he's been doing these Paranormal and UFO topics on his radio show for years...

yea, art bell would get my vote. that would be pretty cool.. or maybe an old star trek radio show my dad told me about and have spock or something as the underlying track..

That guys a creep. This guy's worse than Imus except Imus made racist remarks which if you make in society today your career is pretty much screwed.

[quote="Black Bumblebee"]I second the nomination of Casey Kasem.
[quote]

This question is not meant to be sarcastic or mean, rather I am just asking because I am interested in knowing...

Is Casey Kasem still with us?

The dude needs to fire his agent.

Vavavivian wrote:
This question is not meant to be sarcastic or mean, rather I am just asking because I am interested in knowing...

Is Casey Kasem still with us?

Questions like this are why Wikipedia exists!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Kasem

Still alive.

Too bad it didn't happen. It would have been a cool cameo.

I'm not a fan of his act personaly, but I do have to say Stern does have a knack of making the right decisions on his projects.

So, OK, fair enough. Still, it would be cool to see Optimus in a FartMan suit.

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm not a fan of his act personaly, but I do have to say Stern does have a knack of making the right decisions on his projects.

So, OK, fair enough. Still, it would be cool to see Optimus in a FartMan suit.

the imagry alone from that statement makes it good enough

decepticonjon wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm not a fan of his act personaly, but I do have to say Stern does have a knack of making the right decisions on his projects.

So, OK, fair enough. Still, it would be cool to see Optimus in a FartMan suit.

the imagry alone from that statement makes it good enough

Yeah, but your sig pic just kicked everything to a whole new level!

Vavavivian wrote:

Black Bumblebee wrote:I second the nomination of Casey Kasem.

This question is not meant to be sarcastic or mean, rather I am just asking because I am interested in knowing...

Is Casey Kasem still with us?

Do you mean as a voice actor or is he dead?

I know the "Eternal Teenager" is not fairing to well, but he is alive.

If he's gonna be in the films though, well if Welker got shot down, I don't think Kasem(who I realy think is awesome for being a G1 character, especialt in the mist of his schedual and popularity back then) was on the producers mind.


And please, before you say "I know but..." Please think of the rest of this movie, and there in most likely will be your answer.

Hoped this helped.

he probably wasnt never even asked , that guys such a piece of crap.. He was just trying to connect himself to something big probably.. Im glade that lowlife is off normal radio.

I think we're missing one important quip.

Howard Stern wrote:This movie, The Transformers, it could be a really big movie. And he goes 'So, it won't be because of you, because your f'n voice is on the radio.

Okay, how big is dude's ego? "I don't want to be featured in a big movie if I'm not the one making it a big movie!" Um, let's see, how many big movies have you directly starred in? Oh yeah, Howard Stern's Private Parts, which was only big because you were controversial at the time. It's hardly a movie anybody still watches or remembers ten years later. I think it's about time to realign your point of view here. Sometimes you help make things more popular, and sometimes things help make you more popular. If you're going to be that stupid about it, we probably don't need you in our movie anyway.

Howard Stern wrote:I thought it might be kinda cool but my agent said 'you don't want to be in the movie as an f'n voice on the radio. And I said, you know, you're right.

But, Howard, that's what you are. What better way to make a cameo on a movie than by playing yourself doing your job? How are the petitions to have Fartman make an appearance in any summer blockbusters coming along? Huh? That's what I thought.

Would have been even funnier if they played something like ironman for a few minutes
you know because The radio playing it is a robot

Phenotype wrote:

Vavavivian wrote:
This question is not meant to be sarcastic or mean, rather I am just asking because I am interested in knowing...

Is Casey Kasem still with us?

Questions like this are why Wikipedia exists!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Kasem

Still alive.

What's this Wikipedia thingy?

Um, I don't really see the big deal here. It was most likely only going to be a 30 second clip of him anyway. So, I don't really see the harm of either having him or not. Really doesn't make much of a difference. In additon, besides being interesting, the site that the news came from seems to be making a big deal out of something quite minor. In my opinion though, this is a mistake on Howard's agent's part (and no, I'm not a fan of his).

Phenotype wrote:I'm glad he's not doing it, keep that misogynist pig out of Transformers. That guy has no respect for women, men that act like him make me sick.

How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Hoo hoo! I....uh invented Transformers, Robin...Hoo Hoo...Tell em Fred!

What a jackass! He'd say anything to get his name out there nowadays. Nobody's heard too much or cared much from him since his switch over to Sirius.

By the way, rumor has it Bumblebee can't talk except through his radio. And when asked how does he communicate, he responds with an XM commercial(I guess they got the plug through GM).

And yes, Casey Casem is still alive. He recently did a promo for XM cause they are replaying his old Top 40 radio shows. He sounds almost the same as he did back then!

The Avatar of Man wrote:How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Oh, so because he has a wife and a female co-host he could never be a misogynist right? Wrong.

Perhaps he does not "hate women" in a literal sense but he does not respect women. He continously objectifies them and treats them as if they're nothing more than sexual objects. He is not courteous to the women he has on his show, he asks extremely inappropriate questions and often pushes or harrasses them to get them to reveal information.

Maybe you don't notice it because we live in a society that tells men it's okay to think they're above women. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since I don't know you but I assure you Howard Stern is a sexist pig animal.

He's also extremely racist, so that doesn't really help my opinion of the "man" either.

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Phenotype wrote:I'm glad he's not doing it, keep that misogynist pig out of Transformers. That guy has no respect for women, men that act like him make me sick.

How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Hell yea.

I think He/she is upset that Howard has GOOD LOOKING women on his show, and chicks who use their bodies to get rich. And Howard's the best guy out there for free speech.

he probably wasnt never even asked , that guys such a piece of crap.. He was just trying to connect himself to something big probably.. Im glade that lowlife is off normal radio.

Normal Radio SUCKS! It's watered down, censored, bleeped, dumped and FULL of commericals. Lots of radio station's ratings went to hell after he went satilite.
Hell, I'm sick and tired of these radio guys having to say "A-hole" , "F you", and so on. Hell, even scientific words are bleeped these days and since the FCC's 'decentcy crusade' after Janet's titties popped out on TV in 2004, radio's been crap.....so what in the name of god damn hell is so great about regular radio?

Sorry, but guys like Imus, Oppy & Anthony, Rover, Mancow, Drew & Mike, etc are all a bunch of chumps who never made me laugh. Here in Detroit, the station Stern was on went through 3 or 4 different morning guys cause each one sucked worse than the other.

George Noory or Bell would be cool to hear on the radio in the film, though.

Phenotype wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Oh, so because he has a wife and a female co-host he could never be a misogynist right? Wrong.

Perhaps he does not "hate women" in a literal sense but he does not respect women. He continously objectifies them and treats them as if they're nothing more than sexual objects. He is not courteous to the women he has on his show, he asks extremely inappropriate questions and often pushes or harrasses them to get them to reveal information.

Maybe you don't notice it because we live in a society that tells men it's okay to think they're above women. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since I don't know you but I assure you Howard Stern is a sexist pig animal.

He's also extremely racist, so that doesn't really help my opinion of the "man" either.

If he asked these babes about their stocks and bonds, and educations and so on, no one would listen, I know I would not. You really think he'd talk about world issues and economic crisis with Pamela Anderson or Jenna Jameson?

And he ain't racist, he is often mocking the racist fellows on the show.

Here's my question to you, how much of his shows have you actually heard?

Phenotype wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Oh, so because he has a wife and a female co-host he could never be a misogynist right? Wrong.

Perhaps he does not "hate women" in a literal sense but he does not respect women. He continously objectifies them and treats them as if they're nothing more than sexual objects. He is not courteous to the women he has on his show, he asks extremely inappropriate questions and often pushes or harrasses them to get them to reveal information.

Maybe you don't notice it because we live in a society that tells men it's okay to think they're above women. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since I don't know you but I assure you Howard Stern is a sexist pig animal.

He's also extremely racist, so that doesn't really help my opinion of the "man" either.

Misgyny specifically calls for the hatered of women, but, in terms of objectifying, I'm not sure what you mean. Comments like "Nice ass" and "Hot rack" barely qualify as anything other than complements in between rather regular discussion, and any of Sean Connery's old James Bond movies fall far closer to any chauvinist back-seating of women than anything I've seen with Stern.

I personally don't see how porn objectifies women, if that is your angle-- if a woman is smart enough to realize she can get hundreds of dollars from any male by just flashing her breasts, that's pretty empowering, isn't it? It's actually a bit demeaning to men. I'll admit many pornstars are actually about as dumb as rocks, but if anything it's just an individual doing a service for another individual. They manage their own careers and are not treated as items or subjected to it unwillingly.

And seriously, how can he be racist if his co-host for the past who knows how many years is a black woman? If he were racist, I doubt the relationship would last that long.

Please use some form of reasoning or evidence.

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Phenotype wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Oh, so because he has a wife and a female co-host he could never be a misogynist right? Wrong.

Perhaps he does not "hate women" in a literal sense but he does not respect women. He continously objectifies them and treats them as if they're nothing more than sexual objects. He is not courteous to the women he has on his show, he asks extremely inappropriate questions and often pushes or harrasses them to get them to reveal information.

Maybe you don't notice it because we live in a society that tells men it's okay to think they're above women. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since I don't know you but I assure you Howard Stern is a sexist pig animal.

He's also extremely racist, so that doesn't really help my opinion of the "man" either.

Misgyny specifically calls for the hatered of women, but, in terms of objectifying, I'm not sure what you mean. Comments like "Nice ass" and "Hot rack" barely qualify as anything other than complements in between rather regular discussion, and any of Sean Connery's old James Bond movies fall far closer to any chauvinist back-seating of women than anything I've seen with Stern.

I personally don't see how porn objectifies women, if that is your angle-- if a woman is smart enough to realize she can get hundreds of dollars from any male by just flashing her breasts, that's pretty empowering, isn't it? It's actually a bit demeaning to men. I'll admit many pornstars are actually about as dumb as rocks, but if anything it's just an individual doing a service for another individual. They manage their own careers and are not treated as items or subjected to it unwillingly.

And seriously, how can he be racist if his co-host for the past who knows how many years is a black woman? If he were racist, I doubt the relationship would last that long.

Please use some form of reasoning or evidence.

Well said.

and for porn stars being dumb though.....if they can more more money doing something they enjoy than someone who bene through years of schooling, working till they drop and for probably not nearly as much money.....that's pretty darn smart I think.

And yes, I doubt Robin's and Howard's profesisonal and personal relationship wpuld have lasted at all if he here a racist. And him being Jewish, I am sure Howard himself had to deal with predjudice in his life as well. I hear anti-semitism from half of my relatives each time I visit them

Howard Stern on Transformers sounds just about as good as 'N Sync Boys on Stars Wars.

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Here's my question to you, how much of his shows have you actually heard?

Quite a bit actually, I used to have my alarm set to the local station he aired on here because his show was so annoying it was a great way to get me out of bed so I could turn it off. I think I had it set to his show for about 5 years, they also played him at work a lot. He can be funny and entertaining but overall I think he's very disrespectul to women. You don't have to agree but let's not turn it into a big moral debate okay?

Porn does objectify women but that's really not what I meant at all. That's their choice and everyone in that industry knows how it works and they're okay with it. So am I. Howard has a lot of other people on the show besides porn stars and he definitely shouldn't be asking them about their stocks and bonds because that would be boring but he also doesn't have to ask them 50 times in a row if they do anal until they crack and admit they haven't and then be berated for not doing anal. Again, you don't have to agree and I'm not here to try and change your views, I'm just glad he's not in Transformers and if I feel like calling him a misogynist I an entitled to do so without a long-winded post providing you with evidence as to why I feel that way. So, let's leave it at that okay?

Phenotype wrote:

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Here's my question to you, how much of his shows have you actually heard?

Quite a bit actually, I used to have my alarm set to the local station he aired on here because his show was so annoying it was a great way to get me out of bed so I could turn it off. I think I had it set to his show for about 5 years, they also played him at work a lot. He can be funny and entertaining but overall I think he's very disrespectul to women. You don't have to agree but let's not turn it into a big moral debate okay?

Porn does objectify women but that's really not what I meant at all. That's their choice and everyone in that industry knows how it works and they're okay with it. So am I. Howard has a lot of other people on the show besides porn stars and he definitely shouldn't be asking them about their stocks and bonds because that would be boring but he also doesn't have to ask them 50 times in a row if they do anal until they crack and admit they haven't and then be berated for not doing anal. Again, you don't have to agree and I'm not here to try and change your views, I'm just glad he's not in Transformers and if I feel like calling him a misogynist I an entitled to do so without a long-winded post providing you with evidence as to why I feel that way. So, let's leave it at that okay?

Meh. I'm getting too used to the Philosopher's Forum-- I'm starting to depend on long-winded discussions and ample reasoning.

I've basically said what I wanted, and believe people are entitled to their opinion, though to expect confrontation for near anything is basically a requirement of online posting, if not life in general. Not much more to be said from me... though you might have to beware of Howard Stern in a libel suite... ...

...I think it'd be wise if I just cut this post off before I go into a philosophical rant about 'entitlement.'

1337W422102 wrote:It could have been funny if they pulled it off well.

Since Stern isn't going to be in the movie, why not get Casey Kasem instead (Ultra Magnus, you beat me to it!)? He could even be in the middle of his countdown, or something: "And now the #1 song on this day back in 1986..." and The Touch plays. Would have made me laugh.

Another idea would be Art Bell. He could be on his show taking calls about 'shape-shifting alien robots' and doubting the crazies, as usual. Hey, he was good in 'Prey,' he could be good in the TF.

No kidding!!! That really would have kicked ass. Although Howard Stern being in it would have been really cool, that guy is fookin hillarious!!!. I bet Frenzie could pick up XM Radio!!

Ha Ha, Howard is pulling a fast one you al! You can't see through it? I bet he's actually in the Movie. But he can't say it because he doesn't want to ruin it for us. I'm putting my money on him being in it. No way Howard would turn this down. Being the attention whore that he is.

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Phenotype wrote:I'm glad he's not doing it, keep that misogynist pig out of Transformers. That guy has no respect for women, men that act like him make me sick.

How can he hate women? He has a wife and a female co-host, and is courteous to every chick he has on the show (and it is frequent). If anything, he really...reallly loves women. I'd say it takes guts to say, "It's your buisness if you display yourself for money, despite what society demands... just let me watch." If anything, he's for female liberation. Note all the women CHOOSE to be on his show, and many are quite wealthy porn stars.

Hell yea.

I think He/she is upset that Howard has GOOD LOOKING women on his show, and chicks who use their bodies to get rich. And Howard's the best guy out there for free speech.

he probably wasnt never even asked , that guys such a piece of crap.. He was just trying to connect himself to something big probably.. Im glade that lowlife is off normal radio.

Normal Radio SUCKS! It's watered down, censored, bleeped, dumped and FULL of commericals. Lots of radio station's ratings went to hell after he went satilite.
Hell, I'm sick and tired of these radio guys having to say "A-hole" , "F you", and so on. Hell, even scientific words are bleeped these days and since the FCC's 'decentcy crusade' after Janet's titties popped out on TV in 2004, radio's been crap.....so what in the name of god damn hell is so great about regular radio?

Sorry, but guys like Imus, Oppy & Anthony, Rover, Mancow, Drew & Mike, etc are all a bunch of chumps who never made me laugh. Here in Detroit, the station Stern was on went through 3 or 4 different morning guys cause each one sucked worse than the other.

George Noory or Bell would be cool to hear on the radio in the film, though.

Nicely said.

Howard Stern OWNED regular radio. Not many had the balls to stand up to the FCC like he did.
So, he goes to Sirius Satellite Radio, gets paid 500 million dollars and the FCC then passes a ton of bad laws on the remaining disc jockeys still stuck on free radio.

They aren't even allowed to say "douchebag" (or possibly "scumbag") anymore without getting massive fines. Is that "free speech"?

Those who say he puts women or gays down just don't get what he is.
He's been the voice of what men (and an increasing amount of women) WANT to hear on their drive to work... SEX. LOTS OF IT.
It's tasty.
It's invigorating.
It's coffee without the caffeine.

And gays?
If he's so "bad" to them, then why is he constantly given free speech awards from that community? Because
HE, above all others, brought the normalcy of them into the limelight, from out of the shadows. He gave them a voice when noone else would.

When Howard Stern retires in a few years, free speech in America is going to be losing a large chunk of it's heart.

As for him turning down the movie spot, his agent's right.
It doesn't matter if the movie's good or a bomb, it won't either be because he had his voice in it for a millisecond or not.
He didn't need to be there. Sure, it MIGHT have given Sirius a mild advertisement, but Stern certainly doesn't need it. He's in his prime right now. What was his Christmas bonus last year? 83 million or something? Why mess with his Sirius-exclusive formula? I think after raking in 583,000,000 dollars, it's safe to say you MIGHT know what you're doing in regards to your public exposure.

Stern never had the time in bewtween doing his job to know what "Transformers" are. So... why would he just blindly step into a movie that has the potential to be poopy? He has no idea what Transformers are. To him, they could be a hit or... it could deliver a hit.
So why even bother, y'know? It was an educated move that he concluded on the spur of the moment, as there's very little time to answer such invitations. He did the right thing.
And really, speaking as both a Transformers AND Howard Stern fan, I'm glad he didn't as well.

But hey, if alot of you want to keep saying he's "sexist" or just "filthy", then go right ahead. He's a mirror of society and all those that make it up.
A pretty accurate one, at that.
He delivers an honesty that your government no longer allows one to express on "free" radio without losing your job or the station's radio license.

Oh well, if listening to the watered-down, government controlled drivel from Clear Channel stations is your thing, none of what I'm saying can probably even be comprehended... thought it's all black and white in it's simplicity.

Didn't Howard Stern admit that he was behind the "Gag Order" on the Opie & Anthony show to not to talk about Stern at all while he could talk about them all he wants? Even tough they work for the same company? He also said in that same interview that he's all for free speech except when its about him.

Free speech huh?

He left commercial radio for a bigger paycheck and left a huge part of his audience behind. Alot of his fans have signed on to Sirius but not as much as Sirius was betting on...not 500 million dollars worth....

As for commercial radio...yes it does suck. Not so much cause of the FCC but for the companies themselves. They are now in so much fear after the Imus debacle and the Janet Jackson incident that they are censcoring themselves. More so than the FCC is. There are some words that are ok with the FCC but not with the radio station itself. A form of "Corporate Censcorship".
So between that, the deluge of commercials and lack of good tunes, I've all but given up listening to the radio(except for O&A, Mets baseball & NY Ranger games)

Castle74 wrote:Didn't Howard Stern admit that he was behind the "Gag Order" on the Opie & Anthony show to not to talk about Stern at all while he could talk about them all he wants? Even tough they work for the same company? He also said in that same interview that he's all for free speech except when its about him.

Free speech huh?

That must have been back in the free radio days, for they don't work for the same company.

I find it funny how Opie & Anthony badmouth Stern so bad... they steal the bits from his show & recreate it on theirs. Better yet, their "big break" into radio came from an appearance on Howard Stern.

He left commercial radio for a bigger paycheck and left a huge part of his audience behind. Alot of his fans have signed on to Sirius but not as much as Sirius was betting on...not 500 million dollars worth....

He left free radio for a MINT, not a bigger paycheck.
As for if it was worth it... well, Sirius lurched up in one year's time to be neck in neck with XM, then going about trying to merge them into Sirius.
Oh, but unfortunately, Clear Channel, who has the monopoly on "free" radio, has congress in it's back pocket. They cry that the merging of 2 satellite radio companies will be a "monopoly", yet somehow Clear Channel was able to have laws changed so as to purchase multiple stations in every radio market across the US. Yay?
What are they so afraid of, if Howard is so insignificant now?

As for commercial radio...yes it does suck. Not so much cause of the FCC but for the companies themselves. They are now in so much fear after the Imus debacle and the Janet Jackson incident that they are censcoring themselves. More so than the FCC is. There are some words that are ok with the FCC but not with the radio station itself. A form of "Corporate Censcorship".

Sure, there's been more in-house censorship, but only after the government went kookoo for cocoapuffs with what one is and isn't allowed to say.
It's a nightmare of freedom and it changes constantly for the worse. There are no more people like Stern on free radio with an audience large enough to hold the FCC up to the light.

So between that, the deluge of commercials and lack of good tunes, I've all but given up listening to the radio(except for O&A, Mets baseball & NY Ranger games)

Good for you, I mean it. Though doesn't either Sirius or XM have those things you mentioned? Then again, I'm not sure if Opie & Anthony are still on XM. I mean, who would want to keep 2 guys who (somehow?) get ratings as low as ZERO POINT ZERO in major markets? You could literally, no joke, get higher ratings than that by just playing the sound of someone screaming in a loop.

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That must have been back in the free radio days, for they don't work for the same company.

I find it funny how Opie & Anthony badmouth Stern so bad... they steal the bits from his show & recreate it on theirs. Better yet, their "big break" into radio came from an appearance on Howard Stern.



He left free radio for a MINT, not a bigger paycheck.
As for if it was worth it... well, Sirius lurched up in one year's time to be neck in neck with XM, then going about trying to merge them into Sirius.
Oh, but unfortunately, Clear Channel, who has the monopoly on "free" radio, has congress in it's back pocket. They cry that the merging of 2 satellite radio companies will be a "monopoly", yet somehow Clear Channel was able to have laws changed so as to purchase multiple stations in every radio market across the US. Yay?
What are they so afraid of, if Howard is so insignificant now?


Sure, there's been more in-house censorship, but only after the government went kookoo for cocoapuffs with what one is and isn't allowed to say.
It's a nightmare of freedom and it changes constantly for the worse. There are no more people like Stern on free radio with an audience large enough to hold the FCC up to the light.

Good for you, I mean it. Though doesn't either Sirius or XM have those things you mentioned? Then again, I'm not sure if Opie & Anthony are still on XM. I mean, who would want to keep 2 guys who (somehow?) get ratings as low as ZERO POINT ZERO in major markets? You could literally, no joke, get higher ratings than that by just playing the sound of someone screaming in a loop.

Ok, first thing first, Stern admitted on Sean Hannity's radio show that he had Mel Karmazin put the gag order on O&A to keep them from talking about him. To be honest, when they first came on they had nothing but praise for Stern and what he's done. When Stern started calling them clones, O&A hit back and Stern ran to the boss to do something about that.
Which made no sense cause thye worked for the same company and were on different timeslots.

And only Anthony made an appearance on Stern's show and that's even before they got big in Boston. It was still called "The Opie Show"(pretty lame huh?). Anthony even admits that he just wanted to get out of construction work and would have went with Stern if he brought him onboard(Hindsight 20/20 huh?)

And Stern has ripped off other jocks including O&A. One instance where Howie played a racist song that was originally played in an O&A most offensive song contest. You could even hear Anthony's "inappropriate bell" and O&A laughing in the audio. It was so blatant it was disgusting!

And yes, Stern did sign for a mint worth of money((half a billion?). Don't blame him the slightest. Get a nice paycheck and not have to deal with the FCC? Where do I sign up right?

Commercial radio doesn't really fear Howard but for what can a combined XM/Sirus competitor could offer listeners. They could offer all the same services as regular radio(news, sports, talk, etc.) which a much larger and more diverse music than commercial radio could ever provide. Alot of it commercial free I might add. Plus add in the fact that you wouldn't have to change stations when driving far to find a new station.

As for the censorship thing, it is getting worse on commercial after the Imus thing. Now alot of stations can't say more things they couldn't before. Recently here in NYC, two jocks were fired for playing an old bit of a joke done to a Chinese restaurant. It wasn't an FCC violation but some group protested it and wanted their firings, which they got. Something both Stern and O&A could have easily gotten away with only a few years ago.
And you're right no one is around to hold the FCC up to the light. Stern did for awhile but like he said he couldn't do it anymore so that's why he's going to Sirius. Some want to but the corporations(maaaaan!) don't wanna shell out the heavy fines the FCC puts on them.

Finally, O&A will be back on XM come June 15 due to them angering management over their handling of their apologies over the "Homeless Charlie" incident which made national news recently(Something Stern has not really done in awhile). Luckily they are on commercial radio still and doing ok. So ok that Free-FM here in NYC dumped their whole "talk" format and went back to being K-Rock and played rock with O&A still on in the mornings(Cause it was the best rated show on the platform). Like they would fire the #6 radio show in 2007 in a major radio trade magaine like Talkers!(Where Stern dropped down to #12 from #1 following his move to Sirius. He's below Mancow who doesn't even have a major market anymore)


http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

By the way what's Stern radio ratings nationwide? 0.0

Should this thread be on the Fantasy Battles thread instead? Just sayin.....

You're forgetting that satellite radio is an emerging media, Sirius only having somewhere between 6 and 7 million paying customers. It's a radio you not only have to buy, but pay to have activated.

Opie and Anthony however... wow... to be on in an established market and pull a zero point zero rating?
It's almost impossible to do. Confoundingly so!
Even the worst of the worst shows can pull a 0 point something.
I mean christ, Las Vegas... would Stern have pulled a 0.0 in that market? Did he ever?

On a quick Google, he was #1 Las Vegas, though the article is from 1998.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stori ... 88107.html

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When Stern started calling them clones, O&A hit back and Stern ran to the boss to do something about that.

Problem here is, they WERE cloning his bits. Anyone who had worked to get to his level of power would have done the same, or risk having some unoriginal snot-noses taking his timeslot for cheaper pay.

And Stern has ripped off other jocks including O&A. One instance where Howie played a racist song that was originally played in an O&A most offensive song contest. You could even hear Anthony's "inappropriate bell" and O&A laughing in the audio. It was so blatant it was disgusting!

It ain't pretty, but accidents like this are bound to happen over such a long career. Users submit content, someone doesn't do their homework, and, well...

Commercial radio doesn't really fear Howard but for what can a combined XM/Sirus competitor could offer listeners. They could offer all the same services as regular radio(news, sports, talk, etc.) which a much larger and more diverse music than commercial radio could ever provide. Alot of it commercial free I might add. Plus add in the fact that you wouldn't have to change stations when driving far to find a new station.

I totally can't even look at a regular radio anymore.
I can't even remember when I turned one on last.
But no, Clear Channel and it's ilk do indeed fear Stern. Word of mouth gets around, people hear people on a radio talking ...well, I want to say "filthy", but it's more like people talking as normal people do.
Think about it... if a car manufacturer installs that year's fleet of vehicles with Sirius radios that are lifetime pre-paid... aside from the superior selection and content, you're going to have Stern as a powerful force that keeps people away from government-sucking terrestrial radio.

Reason being, Stern's 2 channels aren't just a music, sports or weather channel, it's a man talking often about WHY terrestrial radio is so bad and how bleak it's future is. He... I guess you could say he "educates" people on all the bullshit that Clear Channel and the government do.

Just look at how many times his name's come up from congressmen during debates on whether this industry that's in it's infancy can merge to be a little bigger.

Stern and free radio is like the Doctor to the Daleks.