Check your MP-05, several are already rusting!
Monday, August 27th, 2007 10:34PM CDT
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It appears that on some MP-05's, the diecast in the feet is wearing and becoming rusty, even in normal dry conditions.
Some members have also posted some suggestions on how to combat this "Cosmic Rust" and save Megatron from degrading ankels on down.
Some of the ways to save your Megatron are:
WD-40 for protection
Vinegar for rust removal
Clearcoat for protection
So make sure to check your MP-05 and let us know exactly how widespread a problem this is!
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Posted by Blozor on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:43pm CDT
What really worries me is that his spine is also metal and really rather narrow.
Posted by Fussion on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:49pm CDT
These are from china, and could have been shipped (on a boat).
Could "Sea air" accelerate rusting from the salt in the air?
I have bought a few things from California and the sea air seems to have an effect... Any thoughts?
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:50pm CDT
But seriously this collector's toy is a bad investment. It's overpriced and it's junk. Just had to say it. I've been frustrated since I've bought it on early April. Several months ago.
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:54pm CDT
Let me give you an example of how powerful this stuff is.....
Once apon a time there were only soft vinyl static Guyver model kits, and not the fine quality toys we have today, a young amatuer hobbyist with a little professional help succeeded in painting a Guyver 1 limited figure that was authentically MAX Factory....the Model came out wonderfully.. all that was left was to let it dry overnight and clean and paint a clear coat over the painted work of art..
The next day to the hobbyists horror the model was still sticky to the touch.. 3 days past and no change, to his dismay the amatuer hobbyist called the professional who preceded to explain that TESTORS ENAMEL paints are in no way suitable for Vinyl!!!! Acrylics is what is used for that
type of material..with a whole in his heart he asked if there was anything that he could do..???
The Professional replied, Yes!! let me tell you of a Product called Tamiya Clear coat....this should fix the problem, he said... and with heavy coats of clear coat and a days worth of drying..the model was finally "almost" entirely sticky free..!!!
I asked the Professional what would have happened over time had I left it without the clear coat?? he said he was amazed that it hadn't melted or degraded in some way.. that was 7 years ago, I still have that model, and I think that the only reason it is still in perfect condition is because it's held together completely by Tamiya Clear Coat...Now I freaking Swear by that stuff!!!
Posted by Collector Maximus on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:58pm CDT
Just when you thought it was so great to have an MP Megatron...
I blame Hasbro.
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:02pm CDT
Posted by chrisjbrandon on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:09pm CDT
Posted by NightFall on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by metalformer on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:18pm CDT
0ctane wrote:
ACK! Mine is doing the exact same thing. I just treated his metal parts with some WD-40. It seemed to clean up easy enough. I just transformed the legs on the one I keep in gun mode that I haven't handled since I removed it from the package ... same exact damn thing. That's most frustrating! Definitely something to keep our optics on.
Posted by 009* on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:33pm CDT
Also, I thought the parts were made out of zinc. The MP-1 manual states that's what Prime's made of.
Posted by gogleman374 on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:33pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:39pm CDT
and I'm in humidity city...
Posted by Basketball Jones on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:47pm CDT
Zinc readily oxidizes- uncoated zinc would be a poor choice for die-cast metal, despite its low melting point.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:52pm CDT
Posted by 009* on August 27th, 2007 @ 11:54pm CDT
Basketball Jones wrote:Zinc readily oxidizes- uncoated zinc would be a poor choice for die-cast metal, despite its low melting point.
Also, soak the parts or just wipe them down?
I do have some vinegar, but it's all diluted for use in food. Is that good enough to use or do I need to get something stronger or just get the wd 40?
Posted by TheMuffin on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:11am CDT
Posted by Brazilian on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:12am CDT
Posted by zmanH2 on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:17am CDT
Mine's untouched.....box to display shelf only
Posted by Sportimus Prime on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:24am CDT
Get this:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/hoppe-quick ... -1215.html
Or this:
http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/blu ... prodcat=55
And make sure to get this:
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_cleaning_cloth.asp
Your own fingerprints and body oil causes oxidation. This will help prevent rusting after handling.
Posted by TheMuffin on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:35am CDT
Posted by Powermaster Jazz on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:36am CDT
Posted by darth reven on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:44am CDT
Posted by Supreme Convoy on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:50am CDT
Man, good to know in advance before buying. I was thinking about getting this guy. At least I know how to keep him nice.
Posted by Collector Maximus on August 28th, 2007 @ 1:00am CDT
Posted by timothyvernon on August 28th, 2007 @ 1:59am CDT
Posted by Sid Burn on August 28th, 2007 @ 2:13am CDT
timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your shit. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.
Easy tiger, no need to jump on everyone. This isnt an isolated thing, many posters have reported the cosmic rust.
Posted by WingZero on August 28th, 2007 @ 2:40am CDT
edit: Just removed the rust using an anti rusting agent so to say and luckely the rust was shallow and subsequently I coated it with WD40 that should do the trick
Posted by the purifyer on August 28th, 2007 @ 2:57am CDT
Posted by Toyotus Superion on August 28th, 2007 @ 2:57am CDT
Also, I spoke to my uncle, a watch repairer. He says that you can remove the rust with vinegar by just rubbing it onto the rusted part. But after the rust is removed, dry and wipe away any vinegar because vinegar is acidic.
And then YOU MUST CLEARCOAT THE METAL.
Like one of the guys said, Tamiya brand is excellent, but auto clear coat should work just fine. Let the part dry overnight.
He also said if we want to avoid rusting, dust more often. That might be why some of you guys are getting rust (he is in robot form, so his feet are exposed) and I dont have any (he is in gun mode)
Posted by Toyotus Superion on August 28th, 2007 @ 2:58am CDT
Sid Burn wrote:timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your shit. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.
Easy tiger, no need to jump on everyone. This isnt an isolated thing, many posters have reported the cosmic rust.
Yeah, that was an unnecessary burn. Im sure most of the guys here take good care of their stuff. Otherwise, they wouldnt collect em.
Posted by Ddave on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:08am CDT
Happy times!
Posted by neliz on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:28am CDT
This gas penetrates plastics easily and thus could cause that affect as well.
Posted by hinomars19 on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:45am CDT
TheMuffin wrote:Sort of a pain in the ass for a toy ain't it? Why they couldn't take 3 second to apply some type of paint is beyond me. Far as I'm concerned Takara screws up just as much as Hasbro anymore.
The quality of him is seriously underdone, especially when compared to prime. But prime aside, megs is definrtly lack luster in may places when there really doesn't sem any need fir it.
no rust on mine yet, but loose jointing on the cannon arm and the fact that the device meant to hold the lower and upper body together never really survives the figure being so much as picked up is really unfirgivable. If he's meant to just stand there, why not just make a statue, eh?
Posted by Craven Knight on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:48am CDT
I'll put him on the shelf next to Perceptor.. that should solve the problem
Nah, I'll just nick a can of CRC from work
Posted by Dead Metal on August 28th, 2007 @ 4:27am CDT
Posted by General Magnus on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:04am CDT
Posted by General Magnus on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:16am CDT
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:49am CDT
General Magnus wrote:will finger nail polisher be anyggod?
Fingernail polish remover might be a little too abraisive... Vinegar is a prefered Method... the WD-40 works, the only issue is that you may want to use it, or any other cleaner for that matter, sparingly so as to not discolor the metal any...
Also Apply the WD-40 to a RAG first!!! Then wipe gently
Tamiya clear coat is the best, but I never thought about using automotive clearcoats on him...that is kind of a harsh substance and I don't want anykind of breakage or metal problems down the road..
Most of Citadel Miniatures, like WarHammer, and LOTR, are painted by my resident friend and "Professional" Rob.... He clear coats all of them with a fine thin layer after he paints them, and trust me, he knows what he's doing...
Just be careful what you use to clean it with, and not to use too much..you don't want a discolored foot for any reason..
Heck, I say just Clear coat all the Masterpieces!!!
Optimus should be fine for the most part, but I would apply clear coat just in case to make sure he's in great shape for the years to come, and also to keep from getting paint chipping, if your scared to do it, have a local comic shop warhammer guy do it, they excell at that sort of thing..My friend Rob said he'd tape the windows up and Airbrush a clear coat evenly over my Prime for free!!!
Posted by neliz on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:53am CDT
It'd say *NO!*
fek.. this stuff is bad for your nails.. it will be worse for chrome..
Posted by 0ctane on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:59am CDT
would anyone be kind enough to explain how to remove the feet from the body because all i see are small pins, whats the best way to remove them? I don't have any experience with this type of thing.
also does rust spread to other diecast models? (just a little worried about my 20th op and G1 figs) need to go get some of that clearcoat stuff too.
jeez this is not the type of hassle i need while moving house, its stressful enough as it is...
Posted by Liege Evilmus on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:09am CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:12am CDT
TheMuffin wrote:Sort of a pain in the ass for a toy ain't it? Why they couldn't take 3 second to apply some type of paint is beyond me. Far as I'm concerned Takara screws up just as much as Hasbro anymore.
Co-sign.
timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your shit. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.
When this material fault in the toy starts to affect yours as well and you go searching for this thread or looking for answers as to how to deal with the problem,..
Please, don't hesitate to ask someone else first.
Because I for one, won't give a damn.
Posted by Liege Evilmus on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:13am CDT
Toyotus Superion wrote:Bonger wrote:Also, rust needs moisture, does it not? This sounds odd. Hurry with the pics, I wanna see this!
Of course. Moister is what mixes with air to cause the oxidization of metals. Though I didnt think chromed metals could rust, unless, the chrome has cracked or peeled away, revealing the gooey center.....mmmmm.....candy.......
Just because something is chromed doesn't mean the metal undernieth can't rust and beither bleed through or cause the coating to flake. I've seen plenty of bike and bumper parts go this way!
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:14am CDT
Liege Evilmus wrote:Wow, and without a return policy for these, I'd have to say this is the best worst Transformer ever!
Not really, i still love my Megatron, it's just a minor challenge that needs to be done, that's all.....
ok attention:
Go to the Tamiya website linked below..
Scroll Down and read the section on Clear coat!!! it's a great eye opener for you guys...And you'll like what it says...
http://tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=35
they give all sorts of paint advice..
Posted by Blitzwing the warrior on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:38am CDT
Posted by Covenant on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:40am CDT
But I don't care. I'm never reselling & he still just rocks.
Note: "Cosmic Rust". Clever!
Posted by Evil FurryCon on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:52am CDT
That Megs musta travelled.... from China to CA and from there
to Finland!
No sign of actual rust on the feet but they had lost their
sheen a little...Something that seemed only finger filth and
wiped off easily!
However Meg's spine notches have yellow brass like shine...
and I don't remember if they ought to be there!
Kinda neat but if that is a sign of trouble...then Ack!
The underside of the metal dealies of his chest seems slightly
brownish... the microsocpic holes in the metal is where
it starts, I suppose!
I'll wipe em with vinegar soon enough and add some gun oil
to all metal surfaces!
Then we can just wait and pray!
Of course the metal parts could be re-chromed with big bucks
or by home means...if ya have the knowhow.
Posted by Bobimus_Prime on August 28th, 2007 @ 8:02am CDT
Oh well, I've been looking for a good excuse to do it.
Posted by DarkScythe on August 28th, 2007 @ 8:03am CDT