Best Look at MP 31 Beast Convoy (Optimus Primal) in New Video and Still Images

I hope those beast heels can fold up against the legs.


Eh, I was hoping for better on the back of the legs. It looked better from the front. Still, I gues Primal isn't ever going to be mooning on my shelf. And dual cannon in each arm confirmed. That pleases me.

All I need now are release dates and the price.

I'm thinking this will be 8,000 yen, what do you guys think?

Insurgent wrote:I hope those beast heels can fold up against the legs.


Eh, I was hoping for better on the back of the legs. It looked better from the front. Still, I gues Primal isn't ever going to be mooning on my shelf. And dual cannon in each arm confirmed. That pleases me.

I was about to say, if you keep all of your beast-formers on a shelf, mooning you, you might need some help

william-james88 wrote:I'm thinking this will be 8,000 yen, what do you guys think?

I dunno, doesn't seem fair to speculate price without seeing how he scales with other figures... He could be the size of mp bb, or the size of mp 10

It would be interesting if they do multiple bw mp's if thy do stick to a congruent scale, b/c megs was much bigger in both modes as compared to primal

Insurgent wrote:Still, I gues Primal isn't ever going to be mooning on my shelf.

This is my motto for the season.

Anyways: It's a hominid turning into a hominid. Not a lot of options for the back legs without shell-forming. And if there's noise about butt-tires, there will definitely be noise about shell-forming.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Still, I gues Primal isn't ever going to be mooning on my shelf.

This is my motto for the season.

Anyways: It's a hominid turning into a hominid. Not a lot of options for the back legs without shell-forming. And if there's noise about butt-tires, there will definitely be noise about shell-forming.

Not if it's done intelligently (i.e. not like MP 28 ) the only issue is where to store the panelsvand how to maintain articulation - as that was obviously a design priority (thankfully)

Hellscream9999 wrote:
It would be interesting if they do multiple bw mp's if thy do stick to a congruent scale, b/c megs was much bigger in both modes as compared to primal

Really? Is there any evidence to that? Because in robot mode, they looked to be about the same size. They are the same height in Beast Mode too, its just that Megs has a very long tail.

I do know for a fact that the show designers made Primal to be the same size as Megatron inorder to reference the King Kong vs Godzilla fight.

Insurgent wrote:YES!!!! Robot legs are covered!

Turns out that was quite the tricky angle afterall.

Indeed it was. Eee, it's like those photographers picked the best angle to take shots from. The nerve of them.


You know, now I'm tempted to take a picture of all my BW guys mooning the camera.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
It would be interesting if they do multiple bw mp's if thy do stick to a congruent scale, b/c megs was much bigger in both modes as compared to primal

Really? Is there any evidence to that? Because in robot mode, they looked to be about the same size. They are the same height in Beast Mode too, its just that Megs has a very long tail.

I do know for a fact that the show designers made Primal to be the same size as Megatron inorder to reference the King Kong vs Godzilla fight.

Not the best, but it shows that he is substantially bigger than o/p

But I found these, they're pretty interesting:

I'm not sure about this one; is that a licensed alt. mode?



Glarryg

Number confirmed! MP-31

Posted on twitter by Autobase Aichi from Hyper Hobby Magazine:

Masterpiece gorilla Convoy 2 pages, has been featured finely using uncolored prototype. Although similar prototype at the end of January Figure King had been introduced, here it is also introduced various gimmick like quite in detail, interviews with the development team has also been little published. Number Listings prototype photos 20 sheets . This time, the think that the first appearance information, numbering of gorilla convoy "MP-31" and the points are stated as, height of the robot mode is about 19 ​​centimeters and I think that that has been described as. Release Date, the price remains undecided. For gimmick, because the sword comes with a size to fit the animation becomes large, it can be installed on the back, but storage of the body's impossible. Gorilla face is the expression replacement formula Nanoha previously reported, but the robot mode facial expression also replaced normally, cry, smile, four types of photo of mask has been published. In the middle of deformation photo There is also a single, gorilla face is housed in the back, gorilla belly It is written to be a robot chest. According to the development team interview, fur gorilla without molding, it is written to be such as to reproduce the texture to the Tsurutto surface such as CG.

I'm sort of hoping he is MP Bee sized so it's a bit more realistic compared to the rest of the guys. But I wouldn't mind a large Boss Monkey either

*edit: about 8 inches tall. So how tall was Bumblebee?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm sort of hoping he is MP Bee sized so it's a bit more realistic compared to the rest of the guys. But I wouldn't mind a large Boss Monkey either

*edit: about 8 inches tall. So how tall was Bumblebee?

About deluxe size

No, mp primal has to be at least mp datsun sized, it would give them the breathing room they need to make more of the cast.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but the article says it is about19'm tall I'm robot mode.

Ironhidensh wrote:Maybe I'm mistaken, but the article says it is about19'm tall I'm robot mode.

Yeah, you're right, 19cm, so whatever that translates to in form of scale

Ironhidensh wrote:Maybe I'm mistaken, but the article says it is about19'm tall I'm robot mode.

19cm is about 8 inches tall, and am I confused in saying that is about the size of voyagers now? If so, that's not too bad a scale.

That sounds like a great size to me.
I have OG Primal right here on my desk and he measures about 8.5 inches tall. The MP Datsun stands about 6.5 in robot mode. The average Voyager is around 7 in.

It seems he will scale well with the previous Gen Rhinox and Rattrap.

Ironhidensh wrote:Maybe I'm mistaken, but the article says it is about19'm tall I'm robot mode.

19 cm, yes, which is between 7-8 inches. So Voyager sized.

Cobotron wrote:That sounds like a great size to me.
I have OG Primal right here on my desk and he measures about 8.5 inches tall. The MP Datsun stands about 6.5 in robot mode. The average Voyager is around 7 in.

It seems he will scale well with the previous Gen Rhinox and Rattrap.

Scaling with Rhinox and Rattrap

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Cobotron wrote:That sounds like a great size to me.
I have OG Primal right here on my desk and he measures about 8.5 inches tall. The MP Datsun stands about 6.5 in robot mode. The average Voyager is around 7 in.

It seems he will scale well with the previous Gen Rhinox and Rattrap.

Scaling with Rhinox and Rattrap

Well not really. Rhinox is taller than Opimus



So its not a perfect scale, but its ok, not as great s this though:

Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

31 eh? I'm surprised it's not going it's own route, like MP-BW01 or something.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Chance HasTak stop milking G1 nostalgia: 0. I wouldn't worry. Seems like Masterpieces are being produced more quickly now - glad some of the effort's getting spread out to other series!

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Chance HasTak stop milking G1 nostalgia: 0. I wouldn't worry. Seems like Masterpieces are being produced more quickly now - glad some of the effort's getting spread out to other series!

Oh I'm glad they are too! I love that Beast Wars is getting masterpiece now. May even be a bit cheaper since there is no vehicle mode licencing stuff too.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Chance HasTak stop milking G1 nostalgia: 0. I wouldn't worry. Seems like Masterpieces are being produced more quickly now - glad some of the effort's getting spread out to other series!

Oh I'm glad they are too! I love that Beast Wars is getting masterpiece now. May even be a bit cheaper since there is no vehicle mode licencing stuff too.

Yeah, wonder how much that contributed to the cost - couldn't've been easy to have Volkswagen finally sign on to a "war toy", after all. At least we haven't figured out how to patent gorillas yet.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Do you have a G1 trailbreaker? If not, try to get the encore, he was a shooting fist gimick.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Chance HasTak stop milking G1 nostalgia: 0. I wouldn't worry. Seems like Masterpieces are being produced more quickly now - glad some of the effort's getting spread out to other series!

Oh I'm glad they are too! I love that Beast Wars is getting masterpiece now. May even be a bit cheaper since there is no vehicle mode licencing stuff too.

You know, this licensing thing always sounds odd to me. Of course, there is a cost somewhere, but look at AOE. Toys with licenses from Bugatti and Lambourghini were selling for the same price as the toy of transforming triceratops.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Chance HasTak stop milking G1 nostalgia: 0. I wouldn't worry. Seems like Masterpieces are being produced more quickly now - glad some of the effort's getting spread out to other series!

Oh I'm glad they are too! I love that Beast Wars is getting masterpiece now. May even be a bit cheaper since there is no vehicle mode licencing stuff too.

You know, this licensing thing always sounds odd to me. Of course, there is a cost somewhere, but look at AOE. Toys with licenses from Bugatti and Lambourghini were selling for the same price as the toy of transforming triceratops.

This is true. NVM me.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

Do you have a G1 trailbreaker? If not, try to get the encore, he was a shooting fist gimick.

I do not own one. I cannot seem to find one intact in package for a good price (and I rarely buy out of package stuff)

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine it's just a rare oddity like Starsaber.

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine it's just a rare oddity like Starsaber.

Gotta admit though: Star Saber was an awesome pick and came out good.

Can't wait to see this guy in color though.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine it's just a rare oddity like Starsaber.

Gotta admit though: Star Saber was an awesome pick and came out good.

Can't wait to see this guy in color though.

Yeah, I guess he was awesome. It's hard for me to say as Starsaber is a character I have no connection to. I actually saw his inclusion to the line as a delay of normal figures.

This looks great. It looks like the face swapping gimmick has finally come to fruition in that it allows for a spot on transformation to rotate the stomach.

Hopefully it fits with generations rhinox as I can't see how that could be improved as an mp.

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Bah! Will! had to show the scale.
Oh well, the leader generally should be larger no?

Yes, the 8 year old me was always ok with that logic. Hence why it was fine that the Ultra Primal was bigger than Rhinox.

But this just shows that this toy is indeed in a league of his own for the moment. It's not a classics, its a freaken MP!!!

I'm actually a wee bit sad though. I really want a masterpiece Trailbreaker, but if they are starting up Beast Wars masterpiece, that chance is suddenly looking like it may take a long time

I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine it's just a rare oddity like Starsaber.

Gotta admit though: Star Saber was an awesome pick and came out good.

Can't wait to see this guy in color though.

Yeah, I guess he was awesome. It's hard for me to say as Starsaber is a character I have no connection to. I actually saw his inclusion to the line as a delay of normal figures.

But to the Japanese audience TT caters to, it was something very special, I'm sure

Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I guess he was awesome. It's hard for me to say as Starsaber is a character I have no connection to. I actually saw his inclusion to the line as a delay of normal figures.

I have virtually no connection to him either, but it never hurts to see guys you don't really know or care for get a toy and then realize "damn that's really awesome." that's how it was for Saber for me. He was just so cool and then I looked into his actual history then he showed up (very differently) in IDW, so it made sense and now I have slowly started looking more into and respecting japanese shows. They did some fun and different stuff that I appreciate.

plus for some he was a true treat, the same way Primal here will be a true treat for the 90's children who loved beast wars. it will be a dream come true. It is comparable to me 15-20 years down the road getting a masterpiece Animated Bulkhead or ninja Prowl or a Prime Smokescreen or Bulkhead (I really like Bulk, he's up there on my top 5 list too). Those to me would be truly spectacular

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I guess he was awesome. It's hard for me to say as Starsaber is a character I have no connection to. I actually saw his inclusion to the line as a delay of normal figures.

I have virtually no connection to him either, but it never hurts to see guys you don't really know or care for get a toy and then realize "damn that's really awesome." that's how it was for Saber for me. He was just so cool and then I looked into his actual history then he showed up (very differently) in IDW, so it made sense and now I have slowly started looking more into and respecting japanese shows. They did some fun and different stuff that I appreciate.

plus for some he was a true treat, the same way Primal here will be a true treat for the 90's children who loved beast wars. it will be a dream come true. It is comparable to me 15-20 years down the road getting a masterpiece Animated Bulkhead or ninja Prowl or a Prime Smokescreen or Bulkhead (I really like Bulk, he's up there on my top 5 list too). Those to me would be truly spectacular

No argument from me. I didn't word that statement well. I meant that I could see how some would worry about the G1 theme that has been going on getting interupted. I've come close to pulling the trigger on Saber several times, he truly looks amazing, but there are so many other MP level figures that I have a better connection with that always win out.

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I guess he was awesome. It's hard for me to say as Starsaber is a character I have no connection to. I actually saw his inclusion to the line as a delay of normal figures.

I have virtually no connection to him either, but it never hurts to see guys you don't really know or care for get a toy and then realize "damn that's really awesome." that's how it was for Saber for me. He was just so cool and then I looked into his actual history then he showed up (very differently) in IDW, so it made sense and now I have slowly started looking more into and respecting japanese shows. They did some fun and different stuff that I appreciate.

plus for some he was a true treat, the same way Primal here will be a true treat for the 90's children who loved beast wars. it will be a dream come true. It is comparable to me 15-20 years down the road getting a masterpiece Animated Bulkhead or ninja Prowl or a Prime Smokescreen or Bulkhead (I really like Bulk, he's up there on my top 5 list too). Those to me would be truly spectacular

No argument from me. I didn't word that statement well. I meant that I could see how some would worry about the G1 theme that has been going on getting interupted. I've come close to pulling the trigger on Saber several times, he truly looks amazing, but there are so many other MP level figures that I have a better connection with that always win out.

I have yet to actually pull the trigger on a masterpiece. I have come close with Sideswipe a few times but just can't really afford to at this point in life. Trailbreaker would be a yes no matter when it was, I just want him.

Now Primal here: he makes me think. See, I wasn't into beast formers for a while, but after binge Watching all of Beast Wars during a week of work where I was bored as all get out after about 4pm, I came to really like it. That made me get Rattrap and Rhinox, and I really like Rhinox. If I had the money available to buy him? Yes, along with Sideswipe.

and masterpiece to me feels like getting that perfect version of the character you love so much, so while I fully urge Star Saber, I can totally understand going another route for that character close to you.

william-james88 wrote:For gimmick, because the sword comes with a size to fit the animation becomes large, it can be installed on the back, but storage of the body's impossible.

Well, that's a little disappointing. Figure still looks really nice, though. (I'm willing to forgive one or two robot parts visible in Beast Mode.)

i think the simulated plastic gorilla fir needs to be flocked

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:For gimmick, because the sword comes with a size to fit the animation becomes large, it can be installed on the back, but storage of the body's impossible.

Well, that's a little disappointing. Figure still looks really nice, though. (I'm willing to forgive one or two robot parts visible in Beast Mode.)

It's probably because the curvature of the swords conflicts with the curvature pf his spine or something, especially if they're making the swords larger

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:For gimmick, because the sword comes with a size to fit the animation becomes large, it can be installed on the back, but storage of the body's impossible.

Well, that's a little disappointing. Figure still looks really nice, though. (I'm willing to forgive one or two robot parts visible in Beast Mode.)

It's probably because the curvature of the swords conflicts with the curvature pf his spine or something, especially if they're making the swords larger

Yes, they are making them larger.

I am really looking forward to seeing the swords

19cm is roughly 7 1/2 inches, which will put this toy about a head taller than Generations Rhinox.

Now we just need a bigger MP Rhinox to correct the sins of the inaccurately-designed Generations figure.

Also, four robot faces, including the faceplated one.

Sabrblade wrote:Also, four robot faces, including the faceplated one.

Where did you read/see that?

Sabrblade wrote:Also, four robot faces, including the faceplated one.

This is super cool.

Does this say what I think it it says??

According to the development team interview, fur gorilla without molding, it is written to be such as to reproduce the texture to the Tsurutto surface such as CG.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Also, four robot faces, including the faceplated one.

Where did you read/see that?

Twas in the Hyper Hobby info Autobase Aichi posted - http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-5073.html

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I am really looking forward to seeing the swords

These swords?