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Posted: **Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:27 pm**

DeathReviews wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic. They've messed over the leader figures pretty badly lately, making them glorified voyagers with a few badly-planned accessories tossed in to fool customers into thinking they're not being gypped. If they make it a decent G1 tribute, it could be good. But I keep asking myself - are there any Triple changers has Hasbro really done well lately...?

I like Galaxy Shuttle.

And don't know if this is too far back, but I feel Snap Dragon was well executed.

Doesn't really matter much here though, the alt modes for this Megatron are made up, it will probably be the same base vehicle but it having two modes (like land and air mode).

Posted: **Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:48 pm**

Just upgraded my Blackout and Scorponok, adding the hands from my junker Grindor and reworking my paint in robot mode!

The updated hands make this figure so much better, I was hoping the recent Decepticon 4-pack Blackout would include them. Kind of along that same vein, if we were to get a newly released figure using an old mold, what updates would you like to see? For example, if we get a Desert Brawl from DOTM, I hope they can do something about the tank turret hanging out in SS Brawl's robot mode. I'd be ok if it was detachable!

Posted: **Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:03 am**

DeathReviews wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic. They've messed over the leader figures pretty badly lately, making them glorified voyagers with a few badly-planned accessories tossed in to fool customers into thinking they're not being gypped. If they make it a decent G1 tribute, it could be good. But I keep asking myself - are there any Triple changers has Hasbro really done well lately...?

Gypped…wow. We’re not being “gypped” with the current leaders. And by current I mean the last 5 years because that’s how long it’s been. The leader class since WFC literally weighs the same as the visibly hallowed out leaders of the prime wars. Ya know, the figures that we’re lucky if they had stuff like wrist and waist swivels and hallowed out in the back. They are still using the same amount of mold sheets on leaders but they are focused on scale with others and on an engineering level. Instead of getting a figure thats tall and core class level articulation you’re getting a solid figure with a bunch of articulation and accessories you apparently don’t care for which that’s on you that’s not on the figures. Sorry they’re not asking you what you personally want but to be real, hasbro should never listen to fans that have your mentality because you really don’t deserve 5 seconds of their time.

However considering it’s 2023 and you’re complaining about this I imagine many people have explained this many times and you just don’t care or wanna listen.

Posted: **Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:16 am**

Randomhero wrote:Gypped…wow. We’re not being “gypped” with the current leaders. And by current I mean the last 5 years because that’s how long it’s been. The leader class since WFC literally weighs the same as the visibly hallowed out leaders of the prime wars. Ya know, the figures that we’re lucky if they had stuff like wrist and waist swivels and hallowed out in the back. They are still using the same amount of mold sheets on leaders but they are focused on scale with others and on an engineering level. Instead of getting a figure thats tall and core class level articulation you’re getting a solid figure with a bunch of articulation and accessories you apparently don’t care for which that’s on you that’s not on the figures. Sorry they’re not asking you what you personally want but to be real, hasbro should never listen to fans that have your mentality because you really don’t deserve 5 seconds of their time.

However considering it’s 2023 and you’re complaining about this I imagine many people have explained this many times and you just don’t care or wanna listen.

Posted: **Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:01 pm**

I really wish SS would scale with the mainline. Always smaller. Only exception that comes to mind is buzzworthy rotb optimus

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:10 pm**

I'll write this here since it's a Studio Series figure as well as being Buzzworthy:

Man, that SS102 Prime toy might probably be the most hubub made for such a mid toy. Maybe it's time to revise my most overrated Transformers list. That alt mode is rough and I don't see any advantage to having the legs get that transformation when it would have looked better if they remained the same in alt mode (like other more basic optimus toys). Plus they have the alt mode kibble on his shoulders to represent the guards but it turns out to be fake kibble that doesn't end up in alt mode, leaving that mode even more innacurate. The decisions on this toy are baffling.

Also, with hasbro so enamored with their new way of having Optimus' gas tanks flip out in alt mode and then receed back into his things in robot mode, they should really add a locking mechanic to it.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:17 pm**

william-james88 wrote:I'll write this here since it's a Studio Series figure as well as being Buzzworthy:

Man, that SS102 Prime toy might probably be the most hubub made for such a mid toy. Maybe it's time to revise my most overrated Transformers list. That alt mode is rough and I don't see any advantage to having the legs get that transformation when it would have looked better if they remained the same in alt mode (like other more basic optimus toys). Plus they have the alt mode kibble on his shoulders to represent the guards but it turns out to be fake kibble that doesn't end up in alt mode, leaving that mode even more innacurate. The decisions on this toy are baffling.

Also, with hasbro so enamored with their new way of having Optimus' gas tanks flip out in alt mode and then receed back into his things in robot mode, they should really add a locking mechanic to it.

As bad as the truck mode was, at least both modes look accurate enough like they were seen in the movie.

I'm going Yolopark's AMK all the way for ROTB. It was a mistake to start design of the SS figures BEFORE the movie's out. The movie's "due to Covid" etc. delay is no excuse. Hasbro can come up with various mainline/gimmick figures to coincide with the movie's premiere, and leave the SS's 2022-2023 releases for the many, many Bay/Knight bots that fans are still waiting for. Hasbro was just painting themselves into a corner to have the ROTB mainline & SS figures "one year apart" and have many of the SS figures looking NOTHING like they were seen in the movie.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:29 pm**

Seeing as we know from JtPrime's leaks that a new TLK Drift is on the way, I decided to buy a Crosshairs this week, and he arrived today. I like him a lot more than I thought I would, the transformation is a bit of a pain, but the car mode is excellent, and kibble and shell-forming issues aside the robot mode is pretty nice too. He's a much darker shade of green than he appears in the official images, not only does he stand out on the shelf but his green really compliments the red and blue on Optimus and the yellow on Bumblebee.
Drift, Mohawk, and maybe 1986 Springer are the only Studio Series toys I plan on buying next year, unless of course Hasbro pulls a blinder and reveals something amazing that hasn't been leaked yet.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:48 pm**

Guys, clearly that is not Megatron. That is MegaMIND using a Megatron disguise. The blue is what it looks like without the silver that is used initially to fool everyone in thinking he's around and not on Earth MIA.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:03 pm**

I'd like to share something with you all I've spent a long time working on with a whole team of Bay fans!

This is a fan-run movement campaigning for the release of Studio Series figures for the remainder of characters from Michael Bay's Transformers films!

Why are we doing this?

In 2018, the Transformers Studio Series toyline kicked off, delivering unbelievably accurate representations of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the live-action films. With incredible figures such as Bumblebee, Blackout, Jetfire, Ironhide and even Devastator, it was hard to argue against Studio Series being the ultimate line for fans of the live action Transformers movies.

After its first three years, Studio Series began to expand beyond the live action films and into other media, including the 1986 animated movie and War for Cybertron video games. While it has been great to see characters from these series receive the same screen-accurate treatment, it has also come with a significant reduction in the presence of characters from the Michael Bay films in the line, bringing a halt to the incredible progress made across Studio Series’ first three years.

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Since Studio Series’ mission statement has always been to build the ultimate cast of Transformers characters, and there still remains a significant roster of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the Michael Bay films, we the fans are kicking off the #BacktoBaysics campaign to respectfully ask that the Studio Series line give renewed attention to the movies that started it all, and more steadily deliver the remaining cast of characters, including Que, Hound, the Dinobots, TLK Barricade, and more.

#BackToBaysics will share content across numerous platforms to recognize the many heavily-anticipated Bayverse characters yet to join the Studio Series lineup. By shedding light on these characters of all shapes and sizes that all have their fans, we hope to demonstrate the strong demand that exists for their addition to Studio Series.

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Discuss what Bay characters you most want to see in Studio Series' future, what scenes you'd like to complete, and how you'd like those figures to appear! This campaign stretches beyond TFW, so be sure to share your thoughts anywhere you post with #BacktoBaysics!

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It is not the goal of this campaign to diminish any of the existing films/continuities or sublines currently in Studio Series. Our focus is instead on balancing the number of existing continuities already in Studio Series to see more of our remaining Bayverse cast each year.

With that out of the way, here's our list of remaining Bayverse characters that can be covered in Studio Series! We tried to focus on characters that appeared on screen and what we felt would be realistic for Studio Series to cover. If you're interested in characters that aren't mentioned here but were in the Bay movies, we'd love to hear about them!

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:14 pm**

All I want are Core Class Frenzy and Dispensor, the Twins, Commandemolishor, Que, Hatchet, Devcon, the remaining AOE forms of Prime and Bee (including a proper High Octane), both Hounds, Car Drift, the Dinobots, Junkheap, the Traxes, Dreadbot, Mohawk, Onslaught, and an Infernocus that is smaller than Devastator because he is nowhere near as cool as Devastator.

And even though these films are produced rather than directed by Bay, I'll take a larger Beewun Thoccwave and a Commander Class Stratosphere.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:13 pm**

I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:31 pm**

cloudballoon wrote:I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.

Yes, Dinobots are a priority since they started the line off with one of them and haven't added to that subset since

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:24 am**

william-james88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.

Yes, Dinobots are a priority since they started the line off with one of them and haven't added to that subset since

I would love to have a proper lineup of leaders AoE dinobots. Once Leader SS86 Swoop is done, they should get on with it.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:44 am**

I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:01 pm**

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:03 pm**

cloudballoon wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.

I was thinking more along the lines of the other Dinobots being hard to make. There's ALWAYS a demand for Grimlock.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:50 pm**

Quantum Surge wrote:All I want are Core Class Frenzy and Dispensor, the Twins, Commandemolishor, Que, Hatchet, Devcon, the remaining AOE forms of Prime and Bee (including a proper High Octane), both Hounds, Car Drift, the Dinobots, Junkheap, the Traxes, Dreadbot, Mohawk, Onslaught, and an Infernocus that is smaller than Devastator because he is nowhere near as cool as Devastator.

And even though these films are produced rather than directed by Bay, I'll take a larger Beewun Thoccwave and a Commander Class Stratosphere.

Those are some good picks!

My top 3 are Que, High Octane Bee, and AOE Hound, but I'd like to see all of our remaining Bay cast!

cloudballoon wrote:I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.

Yeah, we definitely need them! I just recently got Grimlock, so I'm really wanting to see the rest of the team too

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:21 pm**

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.

I was thinking more along the lines of the other Dinobots being hard to make. There's ALWAYS a demand for Grimlock.

Hard to make as in design-wise or did you mean hard to meet demand compared to Grimlock?

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:29 pm**

The three remaining 2007 bots are the ones I want the most, because the first movie designs are my favourites. But Demolishor and Que are also something I'd like to see somewhat soon.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:46 pm**

I've mentioned my top picks a few times already, but the Bayverse characters I'd still like to see are as follows:
- Onslaught - preferably as an original mould because the vehicle mode is so different from Long Haul's, but if an extensive retool of Long Haul can be pulled off I'd take it.
- Frenzy - I'm surprised this has never happened, even as a little non-transforming accessory piece that comes with a larger figure.
- DOTM Ironhide - I mostly say this because 2007 Ironhide's after-market prices are insane, and it would be nice to have that mould made available again for those who missed out the first time.
- Western Star Optimus - preferably as a Leader Class that's a bit taller and bulkier than the Voyager Peterbilt version.
- Bugatti Drift - This one isn't too high a priority for me because we are getting a TLK Drift, but it would be nice if the upcoming one is designed in such a way that it would be easy to retool into the Bugatti.
- a Voyager version of Ratchet - Evan from Hasbro's Transformers design team did mention in a recent Q&A that he wants to do this, so I'm taking that to mean it's at least been talked about.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:52 pm**

Munkky wrote:I've mentioned my top picks a few times already, but the Bayverse characters I'd still like to see are as follows:
- Onslaught - preferably as an original mould because the vehicle mode is so different from Long Haul's, but if an extensive retool of Long Haul can be pulled off I'd take it.
- Frenzy - I'm surprised this has never happened, even as a little non-transforming accessory piece that comes with a larger figure.
- DOTM Ironhide - I mostly say this because 2007 Ironhide's after-market prices are insane, and it would be nice to have that mould made available again for those who missed out the first time.
- Western Star Optimus - preferably as a Leader Class that's a bit taller and bulkier than the Voyager Peterbilt version.
- Bugatti Drift - This one isn't too high a priority for me because we are getting a TLK Drift, but it would be nice if the upcoming one is designed in such a way that it would be easy to retool into the Bugatti.
- a Voyager version of Ratchet - Evan from Hasbro's Transformers design team did mention in a recent Q&A that he wants to do this, so I'm taking that to mean it's at least been talked about.

I second a Voyager Ratchet. It'd be something I'm down for more than than a Voyager 86 Arcee. At least that way we'd get a new take on a design that only received repaints while also allowing him to be a little more in scale and not feel as cheap.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 pm**

Quantum Surge wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.

I was thinking more along the lines of the other Dinobots being hard to make. There's ALWAYS a demand for Grimlock.

Hard to make as in design-wise or did you mean hard to meet demand compared to Grimlock?

I meant design wise but now that you mention it, there's always a drop off in demand between Grimlock and the rest of the Dinobots.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:21 pm**

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.

SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.

I was thinking more along the lines of the other Dinobots being hard to make. There's ALWAYS a demand for Grimlock.

Hard to make as in design-wise or did you mean hard to meet demand compared to Grimlock?

I meant design wise but now that you mention it, there's always a drop off in demand between Grimlock and the rest of the Dinobots.

With the designs, it's easier to expand on what was already present from earlier toys and refine them. With demand, I think it varies depending on the Dinobot in question, at least from experience with SS86. Slag shelfwarmed heavily while Sludge performed a little better but not by much by the time the new year rolled around (at least from my experience). Snarl so far might be with a bit more demand but maybe that's from him being scarce in my area.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:29 pm**

So, if we are talking remaining bots, my ranking has got to be this:

-Que - come one guys! We he is the only large main cast Autobot to not show up from the first 3 movies besides the twins! and his only generations toy was basically cancelled, so it was hard to get anyways!

-3 Dinobots - I will never stop preaching this, we need to complete the leader cast!

-Infernocus - I want to see this done right, like you can make a single voyager and a single deluxe mold, and make it CW style, so someone has to buy 4 deluxes to form him! That is how you get around the "niche character" line with them!

-Titan Driller - Come on, we have no Driller toy, I want it, it would look great, it could be the centerpiece to the DotM display. Come on guys, let's do this! A titan SS!

Now, moving onto current figures:

I got Novakane, Noah, Nightbird, and Primal recently. All 4 are good.

Novakane is another nice little terrorcon, I will army build later, but he looks good with the cast.

Noah is probably the best SS figure of the year. He is AMAZING. They really did great with him, he is by far the most fun SS figure. I appreciate that his jet mode can come off, but I also love that you can use his blaster as a thruster to make a proper jetpack. And he is super posable, thanks to an ab ball joint as well as the head being on a proper good ball joint that more figures really should use.

Nightbird is actually better than I expected in hand. I actually like how she looks and feels, and she feels more solid than I expected. she still needed bigger wings made from her backpack, but she is actually not that bad.

Primal is also pretty good. I will say, he does not feel like a leader, more like voyager plus. As much as I like him, he doesn't feel sizeable or complex enough for his price class.

also, I gave Battletrap his chain, and I gave the Axe to mainline Prime. I agree with Will, the SS Prime is very mid, and the mainline toy is a far more interesting and fun toy.

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