Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬
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Fellow Seibertronian Primalxconvoy attended Japan's Wonderfest 2018 and snapped images for us of the Transformers Masterpiece figures there on display. There were no new Masterpiece figures revealed though this was the first show with MP 17+ Prowl (animated version) and MP 34s Shadow Panther on dislplay. There was also the hotly anticipated MP 41 Dinobot and you can see close ups to his beast and robot head. MP Shadow Panther also had all his accessories on display, which many find to be the high point of the figure, since it includes his mutant head and comlink devices that can also be used on MP Cheetor.
Movie Masterpiece Barricade was also there. It is our first look at what Takara will release and appears to be the exact same figure some fans already have in hand from Hasbro.
Movie Masterpiece Barricade was also there. It is our first look at what Takara will release and appears to be the exact same figure some fans already have in hand from Hasbro.
Credit(s): Primalxconvoy
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Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1940076)
Posted by Burn on February 18th, 2018 @ 1:48am CST
Posted by Burn on February 18th, 2018 @ 1:48am CST
I applaud TRU Australia for their initiative in bringing Shadow Panther to our shores, and while I would love to support said initiative, that guy really does nothing for me.
Now if they do Dinobot, then I may be interested depending on price. (Would also be nice if they can go back and get Primal as well)
Now if they do Dinobot, then I may be interested depending on price. (Would also be nice if they can go back and get Primal as well)
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1940089)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 18th, 2018 @ 4:08am CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 18th, 2018 @ 4:08am CST
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1940114)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 18th, 2018 @ 5:09am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on February 18th, 2018 @ 5:09am CST
Next to the stock photo --
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1941060)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:18pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:18pm CST
Cannot wait for that Dinobot!!
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1941113)
Posted by shajaki on February 20th, 2018 @ 9:52pm CST
Posted by shajaki on February 20th, 2018 @ 9:52pm CST
I have a question for news staff....
Why is this thread being used for generic MP news when every MP gets his own thread?
Why is this thread being used for generic MP news when every MP gets his own thread?
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1941214)
Posted by bigcee66 on February 21st, 2018 @ 11:34am CST
Posted by bigcee66 on February 21st, 2018 @ 11:34am CST
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1941221)
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 21st, 2018 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 21st, 2018 @ 12:01pm CST
I'm interested, but not so sure about the whole "exclusive" thing. I'll keeo an eye on HLJ for possible preorders, and if not, it'll probably end up on Mandarake not long after launch.
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1941223)
Posted by bigcee66 on February 21st, 2018 @ 12:03pm CST
Well its up on BBTS website, so I'm also hoping for a HLJ release.
Posted by bigcee66 on February 21st, 2018 @ 12:03pm CST
wilcosu35 wrote:I'm interested, but not so sure about the whole "exclusive" thing. I'll keeo an eye on HLJ for possible preorders, and if not, it'll probably end up on Mandarake not long after launch.
Well its up on BBTS website, so I'm also hoping for a HLJ release.
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Posted by steals_your_goats on February 21st, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 21st, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST
I noticed that on tfsource the order for 17+ has the manufacturer listed as hasbro and there is no option for Takara, will it come later or is there no option? I know they're both releasing them but I don't want to preorder the hasbro one and wind up with it having their version of the Masterpiece box instead of the Takara one. It probably sounds dumb but I like consistency in my collection and those big obnoxious hasbro Masterpiece boxes don't have a place in my collection.
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Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2018 @ 11:08pm CST
Since it's the same figure and the Japanese version is a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive (it will NOT be on HLJ) it probably didn't make sense for them to import it at a much higher price. I'm going to guess that Hasbro's version will be the same box as the Japanese version, but with English text just like the Masterpiece Movie line. The Hasbro style boxes could be gone or could be reserved for their own MP exclusives (Acid Storm et al).
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2018 @ 11:08pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:I noticed that on tfsource the order for 17+ has the manufacturer listed as hasbro and there is no option for Takara, will it come later or is there no option? I know they're both releasing them but I don't want to preorder the hasbro one and wind up with it having their version of the Masterpiece box instead of the Takara one. It probably sounds dumb but I like consistency in my collection and those big obnoxious hasbro Masterpiece boxes don't have a place in my collection.
Since it's the same figure and the Japanese version is a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive (it will NOT be on HLJ) it probably didn't make sense for them to import it at a much higher price. I'm going to guess that Hasbro's version will be the same box as the Japanese version, but with English text just like the Masterpiece Movie line. The Hasbro style boxes could be gone or could be reserved for their own MP exclusives (Acid Storm et al).
Emerje
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1942025)
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 23rd, 2018 @ 11:54pm CST
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
Posted by wilcosu35 on February 23rd, 2018 @ 11:54pm CST
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:In less than 2 weeks we are getting new reveals at the biggest toy show in japan.
The Biggest toy show in Japan is Tokyo Toy Show in June.Wonder Festival is like the New York Comic Con of Japanese toy events. Takara Tomy didn't even start attending until a few years ago since WF is more of a collectors show and TT didn't fully embrace collectors until recently. I can't remember if Bandai has started attending WF or not, they usually hold their own Tamashii Nations event later.
But yes, they'll most certainly show something then.
Emerje
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
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Posted by primalxconvoy on February 24th, 2018 @ 12:02am CST
Just to let people know, Japan has hosted about two of their own Comicons recently:
- http://tokyocomiccon.jp/english/index.html
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 24th, 2018 @ 12:02am CST
wilcosu35 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:In less than 2 weeks we are getting new reveals at the biggest toy show in japan.
The Biggest toy show in Japan is Tokyo Toy Show in June.
But yes, they'll most certainly show something then.
Emerje
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
Just to let people know, Japan has hosted about two of their own Comicons recently:
- http://tokyocomiccon.jp/english/index.html
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Posted by Ironhidensh on February 24th, 2018 @ 9:35am CST
.....and this has what exactly to do with Masterpiece figures?
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 24th, 2018 @ 9:35am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:In less than 2 weeks we are getting new reveals at the biggest toy show in japan.
The Biggest toy show in Japan is Tokyo Toy Show in June.
But yes, they'll most certainly show something then.
Emerje
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
Just to let people know, Japan has hosted about two of their own Comicons recently:
- http://tokyocomiccon.jp/english/index.html
.....and this has what exactly to do with Masterpiece figures?
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1942098)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 24th, 2018 @ 9:48am CST
Because you could theoretically buy MP figures there?
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 24th, 2018 @ 9:48am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:In less than 2 weeks we are getting new reveals at the biggest toy show in japan.
The Biggest toy show in Japan is Tokyo Toy Show in June.
But yes, they'll most certainly show something then.
Emerje
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
Just to let people know, Japan has hosted about two of their own Comicons recently:
- http://tokyocomiccon.jp/english/index.html
.....and this has what exactly to do with Masterpiece figures?
Because you could theoretically buy MP figures there?
Re: Wonderfest 2018 - MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, Anime Prowl and More on Display #wf2018w #ワンフェス2018冬 (1942489)
Posted by Emerje on February 26th, 2018 @ 1:27am CST
Yeah, I think Prowl was supposed to be the surprise of the show, but they got scooped a couple day earlier. Tokyo Toy Show will probably have Beast Megatron and maybe a preview of the new Optimus Prime/Convoy. Wonder Festival Summer is in July and there's a chance of either a new animated style repaint of a previous figure (Wheeljack? Smokescreen?) or a new small G1 or BW MP since we haven't had one that isn't an MPM in a while.
Of course Japan doesn't depend on events to reveal stuff since magazines are still a thing over there. Something could be announced tomorrow for all we know.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 26th, 2018 @ 1:27am CST
wilcosu35 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:In less than 2 weeks we are getting new reveals at the biggest toy show in japan.
The Biggest toy show in Japan is Tokyo Toy Show in June.
But yes, they'll most certainly show something then.
Emerje
Wonder Festival is past, and no news (unless you count the Prowl redeco).
I was hoping for something but it didn't happen. So the next major event is Tokyo?
Yeah, I think Prowl was supposed to be the surprise of the show, but they got scooped a couple day earlier. Tokyo Toy Show will probably have Beast Megatron and maybe a preview of the new Optimus Prime/Convoy. Wonder Festival Summer is in July and there's a chance of either a new animated style repaint of a previous figure (Wheeljack? Smokescreen?) or a new small G1 or BW MP since we haven't had one that isn't an MPM in a while.
Of course Japan doesn't depend on events to reveal stuff since magazines are still a thing over there. Something could be announced tomorrow for all we know.
Emerje
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Posted by wheeljack34 on March 22nd, 2018 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by wheeljack34 on March 22nd, 2018 @ 4:23pm CDT
hope this is the right place to ask. was thinking of picking up Grimlock MP-03 or Grimlock FOC chrome edition. Would the scaling fit better with a collection of standard deluxe figures than would a voyager? and which would stand the test of time with actual usage (play)? have a son that is 10. but careful with his toys
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Posted by primalxconvoy on March 22nd, 2018 @ 4:46pm CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 22nd, 2018 @ 4:46pm CDT
Grimlock, like most official releases of his character as a toy, seems too small, compared to other figures. MP Grim is too small compared to MP Prime, for example. Perhaps it would look good next to the "voyager" sized characters, such as CW Megatron, TR Soundwave, POTP Optimus, etc.
However, there is an upscaled, knockoff version of MP Grimlock (in both be metallic or comic colours) that's bigger than MP Optimus, making it a better scale. I wouldn't recommend ANY MP (even a KO) for a 10 year old. They're not really meant to be played with by kids.
However, there is an upscaled, knockoff version of MP Grimlock (in both be metallic or comic colours) that's bigger than MP Optimus, making it a better scale. I wouldn't recommend ANY MP (even a KO) for a 10 year old. They're not really meant to be played with by kids.
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Posted by wheeljack34 on March 22nd, 2018 @ 5:56pm CDT
Posted by wheeljack34 on March 22nd, 2018 @ 5:56pm CDT
Thanks for answering! i dont have any MP's for that reason. He enjoys big battles as I did when a kid. lol. i was trying to go for scale with the bots from CW and generations when i started buying again =)
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 23rd, 2018 @ 6:19am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 23rd, 2018 @ 6:19am CDT
Anyone have an idea if MP Hound is close at hand? Because I'm not sure if I should get Maketoy's "Hound" or should I wait.
I'm pretty sure Reflector will never happen so Visualizers is at least a sure shot.
I'm pretty sure Reflector will never happen so Visualizers is at least a sure shot.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:08am CDT
The next G1 MPs are to be Hoist and Trailbraker, along with an MP Beast Megatron. Those are the only figures Takara hinted to be working on at the moment.
Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:08am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyone have an idea if MP Hound is close at hand? Because I'm not sure if I should get Maketoy's "Hound" or should I wait.
I'm pretty sure Reflector will never happen so Visualizers is at least a sure shot.
The next G1 MPs are to be Hoist and Trailbraker, along with an MP Beast Megatron. Those are the only figures Takara hinted to be working on at the moment.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:45am CDT
Personally, I don't do 3rd party. It's HasTak or no one. Technically if MP Reflector were to ever happen (all three sold together, just as I would expect of Runabout & Runamuck and the Insecticons) wouldn't it have to actually be a working camera?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:45am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyone have an idea if MP Hound is close at hand? Because I'm not sure if I should get Maketoy's "Hound" or should I wait.
I'm pretty sure Reflector will never happen so Visualizers is at least a sure shot.
Personally, I don't do 3rd party. It's HasTak or no one. Technically if MP Reflector were to ever happen (all three sold together, just as I would expect of Runabout & Runamuck and the Insecticons) wouldn't it have to actually be a working camera?
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:50am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2018 @ 9:50am CDT
Megatron wasn't a working gun.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyone have an idea if MP Hound is close at hand? Because I'm not sure if I should get Maketoy's "Hound" or should I wait.
I'm pretty sure Reflector will never happen so Visualizers is at least a sure shot.
Personally, I don't do 3rd party. It's HasTak or no one. Technically if MP Reflector were to ever happen (all three sold together, just as I would expect of Runabout & Runamuck and the Insecticons) wouldn't it have to actually be a working camera?
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:00am CDT
A camera is a bit different to a gun. I'm sure some countries would love a toy gun that actually fires however, most countries pesky and strict weapon control laws wouldn't. They wouldn't be too upset by a Transforming Camera though. Bottom line there is three of them and it would be quite easily to weave them into a (digital) camera in this day and age.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:00am CDT
A camera is a bit different to a gun. I'm sure some countries would love a toy gun that actually fires however, most countries pesky and strict weapon control laws wouldn't. They wouldn't be too upset by a Transforming Camera though. Bottom line there is three of them and it would be quite easily to weave them into a (digital) camera in this day and age.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:32am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:32am CDT
Even though a MP Reflector that is a working camera would be neat, it would increase the cost of an already expensive figure by a large ammount.
By the way, G1 Megatron IS a working gun. The Takara one at least. It's a BB gun. A very light and weak BB gun, but a BB gun nontheless.
By the way, G1 Megatron IS a working gun. The Takara one at least. It's a BB gun. A very light and weak BB gun, but a BB gun nontheless.
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Posted by shajaki on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:23pm CDT
What "technicality" makes you believe an MP Reflector would need to be a working camera? The original wasn't, and (so far) the MP's made with device type alt modes (Soundwave, Megatron, cassettes) are not functional.
Also your second statement about them being released as a single box while I think would be likely (if they were officially made) but not for your other examples. That would be like expecting Sideswipe and Sunstreaker to released together, or the Seeker trio's.
Posted by shajaki on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:23pm CDT
I've been going over this statement for a while, trying to understand it. And I don't. So help me out.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Technically if MP Reflector were to ever happen (all three sold together, just as I would expect of Runabout & Runamuck and the Insecticons) wouldn't it have to actually be a working camera?
What "technicality" makes you believe an MP Reflector would need to be a working camera? The original wasn't, and (so far) the MP's made with device type alt modes (Soundwave, Megatron, cassettes) are not functional.
Also your second statement about them being released as a single box while I think would be likely (if they were officially made) but not for your other examples. That would be like expecting Sideswipe and Sunstreaker to released together, or the Seeker trio's.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 10:35am CDT
Right. First off, I'm noticing a bit of a running theme here. Where clearly some of the more bloodthirsty among us wanted Megatron to be a real gun. I suppose some countries really do have a more lax attitude to firearms, after all. Different strokes for different folks and all that too, I guess
Secondly, Soundwave's altmode is functional, in that it can store (and deploy) the Cassettes, which also applies to the Cassettes in reverse. The word "music" is omitted from both his altmode and theirs for this reason. It's not a human tape player, much as Megatron wasn't a human gun. They just looked like them IE
To that end, Megatron's altmode too is functional in it's visual authenticity.
So, because I've just come home from a long day at work and I'm tired of repeating myself, let's break this down.
Reflector is a trio (or single bot with cloning, the fiction seems really vague). That is what they looked like in 1985/86.
Now we've cleared up what he/they were and what the original components did in their Gestalt form.
If Reflector did make it to them MP line, people are saying that they would pay a MP Collection price tag for a visually updated figure that did no more than one in 1985? Considering it would hopefully be sold as a Trio, no doubt Reflector would be more expensive than the average MP Car-Bot.
The difference between Reflector and every one else is that individually they transform into nothing. Also when it does Transform into a Camera, it serves no other purpose. Not a Car/Jet/Beast/Mini-bot carrier etc
Given the ingenuity that went into MP-36, I would logically think they could do more with a Trio of bots that turn into a Camera than leave it as an expensive and superficial plastic shell.
The Battlechargers are a noted (largely inseparable) pair. Not even brothers like Sunstreaker et al More like clones. One is coloured black, the other white. They are otherwise identical. It would actually make less sense financially to try to sell them separately, in that respect. Much in the same way you wouldn't sell Scourge and the Sweeps separately.
As for the Insecticons, my thoughts are given their size they would make more sense as a Multi-pack, as they did with the MP Cassettes.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 10:35am CDT
shajaki wrote:I've been going over this statement for a while, trying to understand it. And I don't. So help me out.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Technically if MP Reflector were to ever happen (all three sold together, just as I would expect of Runabout & Runamuck and the Insecticons) wouldn't it have to actually be a working camera?
What "technicality" makes you believe an MP Reflector would need to be a working camera? The original wasn't, and (so far) the MP's made with device type alt modes (Soundwave, Megatron, cassettes) are not functional.
Right. First off, I'm noticing a bit of a running theme here. Where clearly some of the more bloodthirsty among us wanted Megatron to be a real gun. I suppose some countries really do have a more lax attitude to firearms, after all. Different strokes for different folks and all that too, I guess
Secondly, Soundwave's altmode is functional, in that it can store (and deploy) the Cassettes, which also applies to the Cassettes in reverse. The word "music" is omitted from both his altmode and theirs for this reason. It's not a human tape player, much as Megatron wasn't a human gun. They just looked like them IE
ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
To that end, Megatron's altmode too is functional in it's visual authenticity.
So, because I've just come home from a long day at work and I'm tired of repeating myself, let's break this down.
Reflector is a trio (or single bot with cloning, the fiction seems really vague). That is what they looked like in 1985/86.
Reflector is composed of three distinct robots that combine to form a camera: Viewfinder as the central component with the lens, Spectro as the right-side component with the shutter button, and Spyglass as the left-side component with the flash. It includes a telephoto lens and old-style flashcube that doubles as a missile launcher,
Now we've cleared up what he/they were and what the original components did in their Gestalt form.
If Reflector did make it to them MP line, people are saying that they would pay a MP Collection price tag for a visually updated figure that did no more than one in 1985? Considering it would hopefully be sold as a Trio, no doubt Reflector would be more expensive than the average MP Car-Bot.
The difference between Reflector and every one else is that individually they transform into nothing. Also when it does Transform into a Camera, it serves no other purpose. Not a Car/Jet/Beast/Mini-bot carrier etc
Given the ingenuity that went into MP-36, I would logically think they could do more with a Trio of bots that turn into a Camera than leave it as an expensive and superficial plastic shell.
shajaki wrote:Also your second statement about them being released as a single box while I think would be likely (if they were officially made) but not for your other examples. That would be like expecting Sideswipe and Sunstreaker to released together, or the Seeker trio's.
The Battlechargers are a noted (largely inseparable) pair. Not even brothers like Sunstreaker et al More like clones. One is coloured black, the other white. They are otherwise identical. It would actually make less sense financially to try to sell them separately, in that respect. Much in the same way you wouldn't sell Scourge and the Sweeps separately.
As for the Insecticons, my thoughts are given their size they would make more sense as a Multi-pack, as they did with the MP Cassettes.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
Unless the The Battlechargers are tiny like cassettes, you can bet you left AND right nut that they would sell those repaints separately. Same thing with the insecticons.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:02am CDT
Here's the thing though, The Insecticons are about the same size as Ravage, Laserbeak etc The Deluxe Insecticons(that most people have forgotten about), not so much. But Bombshell, Kickback & Shrapnel are smaller than Bumblebee.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:02am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Unless the The Battlechargers are tiny like cassettes, you can bet you left AND right nut that they would sell those repaints separately. Same thing with the Insecticons.
Here's the thing though, The Insecticons are about the same size as Ravage, Laserbeak etc The Deluxe Insecticons(that most people have forgotten about), not so much. But Bombshell, Kickback & Shrapnel are smaller than Bumblebee.
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Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:06am CDT
When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:09am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:09am CDT
Well, MP Shockwave's altmode did less than what G1 Shockwave's altmode could do in 1985.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If Reflector did make it to them MP line, people are saying that they would pay a MP Collection price tag for a visually updated figure that did no more than one in 1985? Considering it would hopefully be sold as a Trio, no doubt Reflector would be more expensive than the average MP Car-Bot.
The difference between Reflector and every one else is that individually they transform into nothing. Also when it does Transform into a Camera, it serves no other purpose. Not a Car/Jet/Beast/Mini-bot carrier etc
Given the ingenuity that went into MP-36, I would logically think they could do more with a Trio of bots that turn into a Camera than leave it as an expensive and superficial plastic shell.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:10am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:10am CDT
BotCon 2009?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:15am CDT
No,no,no. I said "Sweeps", not Scourge.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:15am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:BotCon 2009?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
No,no,no. I said "Sweeps", not Scourge.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:35am CDT
https://tfsource.com/platinum/armada-of-cyclonus/
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 11:35am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
https://tfsource.com/platinum/armada-of-cyclonus/
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:17pm CDT
Exactly my point.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:BotCon 2009?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
No,no,no. I said "Sweeps", not Scourge.
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Posted by shajaki on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:19pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:19pm CDT
This is absolutely insane. With how difficult it is to make a toy gun these days, there is ZERO chance that a REAL WORKING GUN Megatron will ever be made. Nevermind it would be damn near impossible to physically achieve anyways. Honestly... I can't evenAllNewSuperRobot wrote:Where clearly some of the more bloodthirsty among us wanted Megatron to be a real gun.
Ok. When I say "fuctional", I mean him transforming into a working cassette player. Which he absolutely does not.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Secondly, Soundwave's altmode is functional,
Again, what you call "functional" differs wildly from what I do. You're expecting Reflector to be a working camera, but Soundwave/Megatron are allowed to simply "look the part"?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's not a human tape player, much as Megatron wasn't a human gun. They just looked like them IE ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
To that end, Megatron's altmode too is functional in it's visual authenticity.
The MP line is not simply about a visual update. It is (now) about updated engineering and cartoon accuracy. If they do those two things, they've done their jobs. By that definition they automatically do more than one in 1985. So what MORE do you expect him to do?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If Reflector did make it to them MP line, people are saying that they would pay a MP Collection price tag for a visually updated figure that did no more than one in 1985?
But... that's exactly what he's supposed to do/be. Again, what more do you expect him to do? And, if he were designed to do more outside of the scope of the G1 cartoon, it would be going against the current modus operandi Takara has for the MP line.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The difference between Reflector and every one else is that individually they transform into nothing. Also when it does Transform into a Camera, it serves no other purpose. Not a Car/Jet/Beast/Mini-bot carrier etc
MP-36 Megatron was ingenious, but he doesn't do anything outside of the "cartoon accuracy" scope. As in he doesn't do anything outlandish, and y'know what he turns into? A superficial shell. If an MP Reflector were made, all he would need to do is turn from a "superficial camera", into three dudes.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Given the ingenuity that went into MP-36, I would logically think they could do more with a Trio of bots that turn into a Camera than leave it as an expensive and superficial plastic shell.
Not only have there only 2 official Sweeps ever made, but only 1 of those was sold WITH Scourge. So I'm not sure where you're getting that from.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Much in the same way you wouldn't sell Scourge and the Sweeps separately.
Wonky cartoon scale aside, they are not as small as the cassettes. And certainly should not scale to the MP cassettes.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Here's the thing though, The Insecticons are about the same size as Ravage, Laserbeak etc The Deluxe Insecticons(that most people have forgotten about), not so much. But Bombshell, Kickback & Shrapnel are smaller than Bumblebee.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
I know exactly what you were referring too, it's still NO. Redeco's of Scourge are still Scourge. The closest thing to an Actual Sweeps release is the TR release with Gnaw, as it is a purpose built retool. Even that is essentially only a Headmaster and not the whole thing.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Exactly my point.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:BotCon 2009?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
No,no,no. I said "Sweeps", not Scourge.
I know exactly what you were referring too, it's still NO. Redeco's of Scourge are still Scourge. The closest thing to an Actual Sweeps release is the TR release with Gnaw, as it is a purpose built retool. Even that is essentially only a Headmaster and not the whole thing.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
Besides, Scourge himself has never been teal and gold (barring SG, which itself was just a repurpose of one of those Sweep toys). Those Sweeps were colored that way to distinctly show that they aren't him.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
That's not what you asked. You asked when Sweeps, just Sweeps, have been sold by themselves packaged separately from Scourge. That BotCon set was sold by itself as a separate purchase from Scourge. They did not come with Scourge.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly my point.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:BotCon 2009?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
When have the Sweeps (specifically) ever been sold on their own?
No,no,no. I said "Sweeps", not Scourge.
I know exactly what you were referring too, it's still NO. Redeco's of Scourge are still Scourge. The closest thing to an Actual Sweeps release is the TR release with Gnaw, as it is a purpose built retool. Even that is essentially only a Headmaster and not the whole thing.
Besides, Scourge himself has never been teal and gold (barring SG, which itself was just a repurpose of one of those Sweep toys). Those Sweeps were colored that way to distinctly show that they aren't him.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
This discussion is getting really boring and useless
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Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Well I'll be damned.
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
https://tfsource.com/platinum/armada-of-cyclonus/
Well I'll be damned.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:01pm CDT
I realize now that set was never released in the US, so makes sense that you didnt know about it.
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:01pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
https://tfsource.com/platinum/armada-of-cyclonus/
Well I'll be damned.
I realize now that set was never released in the US, so makes sense that you didnt know about it.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT
Oh?
I bought mine on sale as an impulse buy. Some buyer remorse later I sold the set for store credits at my local geek store. No regrets there.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:When have Scourge and the sweeps ever been sold together?
https://tfsource.com/platinum/armada-of-cyclonus/
Well I'll be damned.
I realize now that set was never released in the US, so makes sense that you didnt know about it.
Oh?
I bought mine on sale as an impulse buy. Some buyer remorse later I sold the set for store credits at my local geek store. No regrets there.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
Agreed. So pedantry aside, we're moving on...
We have MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, Hoist, Trailbreaker and BW Megatron. Either imminently released or in the pipeline. So that's three Beast Wars and three G1, predictions on the next?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:This discussion is getting really boring and useless
Agreed. So pedantry aside, we're moving on...
We have MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, Hoist, Trailbreaker and BW Megatron. Either imminently released or in the pipeline. So that's three Beast Wars and three G1, predictions on the next?
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Posted by Emerje on March 24th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CDT
We're pretty sure Optimus Prime 3.0 is happening as well, probably the big release for the end of the year.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on March 24th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:This discussion is getting really boring and useless
Agreed. So pedantry aside, we're moving on...
We have MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, Hoist, Trailbreaker and BW Megatron. Either imminently released or in the pipeline. So that's three Beast Wars and three G1, predictions on the next?
We're pretty sure Optimus Prime 3.0 is happening as well, probably the big release for the end of the year.
Emerje
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 3:55pm CDT
Aww yes I knew I forgot one. So are all seven of these expected for release in 2018 or are the latter ones just to be announced?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 24th, 2018 @ 3:55pm CDT
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:This discussion is getting really boring and useless
Agreed. So pedantry aside, we're moving on...
We have MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, Hoist, Trailbreaker and BW Megatron. Either imminently released or in the pipeline. So that's three Beast Wars and three G1, predictions on the next?
We're pretty sure Optimus Prime 3.0 is happening as well, probably the big release for the end of the year.
Emerje
Aww yes I knew I forgot one. So are all seven of these expected for release in 2018 or are the latter ones just to be announced?
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Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 24th, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
Don't forget the movie MP figures as well.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 24th, 2018 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 24th, 2018 @ 6:06pm CDT
Beast Megatron and Trailbreaker are a financial disaster waiting to happen for me. Trailbreaker is my favorite TF of all time and I need a Beast Megatron. Man.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
The only MPs confirmed for this year so far are MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, MPM Ironhide and MPM Barricade.
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:This discussion is getting really boring and useless
Agreed. So pedantry aside, we're moving on...
We have MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, Hoist, Trailbreaker and BW Megatron. Either imminently released or in the pipeline. So that's three Beast Wars and three G1, predictions on the next?
We're pretty sure Optimus Prime 3.0 is happening as well, probably the big release for the end of the year.
Emerje
Aww yes I knew I forgot one. So are all seven of these expected for release in 2018 or are the latter ones just to be announced?
The only MPs confirmed for this year so far are MP Dinobot, Shadow Panther, 17+ Prowl, MPM Ironhide and MPM Barricade.
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Posted by Cobotron on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:29am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:29am CDT
I'm betting hoping we'll see a Diaclone-esque repaint of Sunstreaker this year in some form or another.
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Posted by Evil Eye on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
Oh yes. I'm not a big fan of how Sunstreaker looks (especially that head) but if we got the police deco, ESPECIALLY as a fembot retool ala Road Rage, I'd buy it.
Posted by Evil Eye on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
Cobotron wrote:I'm betting hoping we'll see a Diaclone-esque repaint of Sunstreaker this year in some form or another.
Oh yes. I'm not a big fan of how Sunstreaker looks (especially that head) but if we got the police deco, ESPECIALLY as a fembot retool ala Road Rage, I'd buy it.
