Why you Shouldn't Expect Much from the Maccadam Build A Figure
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While it will maybe be another 3 months or more before we get to finish Maccadam, half of his pieces have already come out and most actually connect together already so it gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect when we have him complete. So I wanted to write this article since many were interested by this figure, and to some this is the most interesting figure of the entire series so far since it's a character we never got. Well now that I have (some of) him in hand, I would highly recommend that no one invest in these toys solely for the Build a Figure component.
For those unaware, in the Marvel Legends line the Build a Figure component has slowly turned from a mere bonus item or something that could not be released individually to the main reason to buy a line. Hasbro released their Marvel Legends toys for Infinity War and the Build a Figure was Thanos, the movie's main character. And when it came time for them to make a line for Endgame, the Build a Figure was once again Thanos. So movie fans had to buy Marvel's Living Laser figure if they wanted to complete the big bad of the biggest movie of all time.
This is just to show where people accustomed to Build a Figure lines may be coming from. Be it good news or bad news, Hasbro has not elected that approach for Maccadam. Unlike Marvel Legends, the figure you build here is not at all on the same level of quality, articulation or even proportion as the rest of the line. It really is just a bonus and not something that could be released on it's own commanding a similar or greater price point as the rest. It's almost like a middle ground between the Marvel Legends approach and their mindset for their previous Build a Figure energon animals from the RID line, which no one felt compelled to complete.
We knew he didn't transform but in terms of articulation, Maccadam will also be lacking compared to the rest of the line. Maccadam's entire lower leg is 1 grey plastic piece with a little amount of paint on it. So the feet are not seperate pieces from the leg, limiting the articulation. These pieces are also very light, they are not on the same quality level as anything we see in the deluxes these pieces come with. You can see images below of how tall he is going to be compared to other deluxes and he does seem small.
None of this detracts from him being a fun bonus and a welcome surprise to a line of toys that were long overdue and that I'd recommend to any fan of previous cartoon based lines. However, a bonus is all he is and if you expect more, there is a strong chance you'll be disappointed. What's great is that for those who just planned on buying a few deluxe figures out of the 8 in this set, then you can rest assured that the price you are paying is going (almost) entirely to the nicely articulated transforming figure you bought rather than a good portion of it going to a piece that you will never use.
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Posted by no-one on January 10th, 2020 @ 2:41pm CST
I'm now considering getting at least one of the deluxes, but I have no interest in the BAF or any future BAFs, unless they transform.
Posted by Burn on January 10th, 2020 @ 3:37pm CST
Provided they get released here.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 10th, 2020 @ 3:46pm CST
On an unrelated note, I think our fandom could acclimate to this a little better, I feel that we're more used to buying, swapping, parting out figure's we do/don't want, unlike marvel legends where most people are gong to want most of the main line and all of the b.a.f. parts too; I think the forums here will get everyone sorted out for the most part on the figures that they want, be it only macadam or just the deluxes
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 10th, 2020 @ 7:32pm CST
I'm excited to finish him, it's gonna be torture to wait out the other wave of figures.
Also, it was nice that 3 of the 4 parts in the wave could attach to each other. Makes it easier to wait, but still very impatient
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2020 @ 10:38pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I actually was ok with the Maccadam parts, and it's really cool to be taking part in this. Sure, he will be a bit small and not Transform, but he's still pretty cool and actually just as articulated as the other figures when you get down to it. He may not have ankles, but he still has wrists, and he has the torso movement/ball joints to make up for the ankles.
I'm excited to finish him, it's gonna be torture to wait out the other wave of figures.
Also, it was nice that 3 of the 4 parts in the wave could attach to each other. Makes it easier to wait, but still very impatient
I like him too and really like this BAF approach as rrally just an extra. Its just that I wanted people to know what they are in for if maccadam is all they cared about.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 11th, 2020 @ 12:56pm CST
Posted by X3ROhour on January 13th, 2020 @ 12:44am CST
Are they good?
Or are they only good in comparison to the Warrior scrap?
Posted by Cobotron on January 13th, 2020 @ 10:09am CST
Posted by Full-Tilt on January 13th, 2020 @ 11:56am CST
Awesomepow wrote:Codes and Whirl Images Courtesy Of Prime Roller TFW2005
A -Bumblebee
C -Grimlock
E -Jetfire
B2 -Whirl (confirmed with purchase)
C2 -Chromia (confirmed with purchase)
D2 -Dead End
F2 -Ratchet
G2 -Megatron X
H2 -Stealth Force Hot Rod
Missing codes for:
-Shrapnel
-Arcee
-Optimus
I WANT IT.
Also, has anyone seen the first wave of Cyberverse tiny turbo changers? It has been a while and I haven't seen any
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2020 @ 6:42pm CST
Z3ROhour wrote:the new CYBERVERSE DELUXE FIGURES.
Are they good?
Or are they only good in comparison to the Warrior scrap?
They are pretty darn good. Bee is the best and shockwave is the weakest, but they are all still solid deluxe figures
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 13th, 2020 @ 7:56pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2020 @ 10:04am CST
Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion? I'm not sure if that is across all lines or just in the Aligned continuity. Either way, where to do rank him against other deluxe class Bee's?chuckdawg1999 wrote:My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2020 @ 10:29am CST
Cyberverse isn't Aligned.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion? I'm not sure if that is across all lines or just in the Aligned continuity. Either way, where to do rank him against other deluxe class Bee's?chuckdawg1999 wrote:My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2020 @ 10:48am CST
Really? Goes to show what I know. I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015. So it's the David S. Pumpkins of Transformers?Sabrblade wrote:Cyberverse isn't Aligned.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion? I'm not sure if that is across all lines or just in the Aligned continuity. Either way, where to do rank him against other deluxe class Bee's?chuckdawg1999 wrote:My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
The question still remains; how does deluxe Cyberverse Bee compare to other deluxe Bees based on whatever criteria is chosen to measure with. I already know how WJ88 and DMax feel.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2020 @ 10:50am CST
That makes no sense.carytheone wrote:I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015.
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2020 @ 10:54am CST
Assumptions, like hairsplitting, rarely do. I haven't paid Cyberverse any attention until someone said "hey this toy is really good, you should check it out".Sabrblade wrote:That makes no sense.carytheone wrote:I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015.
Posted by Cobotron on January 14th, 2020 @ 3:11pm CST
But seriously, I feel like they are just cherry picking from every incarnation that came before it.
And, that is not a criticism.
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2020 @ 3:40pm CST
Much like Tina Turner, I don't need another hero (Bee).
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 14th, 2020 @ 6:11pm CST
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2020 @ 6:31pm CST
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 14th, 2020 @ 6:36pm CST
carytheone wrote:Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.
I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours
You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2020 @ 8:59pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:carytheone wrote:Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.
I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours
You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2020 @ 9:03pm CST
You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:carytheone wrote:Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.
I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours
You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2020 @ 9:32pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:carytheone wrote:Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.
I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours
You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.
No, I meant FE Bee. Slightly different but still some major proportion issues. Same shit different day. Plus they both suffer from lack of screen accuracy especially with the lower legs.
Posted by no-one on January 15th, 2020 @ 9:50am CST
The Prime Bees are a little broad in the chesticles. Unlike the SS line and the Cyberverse deluxe Bee, they suffer from real parts syndromewilliam-james88 wrote:No, I meant FE Bee. Slightly different but still some major proportion issues. Same **** different day. Plus they both suffer from lack of screen accuracy especially with the lower legs.Sabrblade wrote:You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.william-james88 wrote:FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:carytheone wrote:Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.
I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours
You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
Screen accuracy (like scale) is nice, but I judge toys by how fun they are. That includes, transformation, articulation, feels - you know, that unquantifiable stuff. I'm open to buying one-offs, if the figure hits those notes. That's why I have a few movie figures.
Posted by no-one on January 15th, 2020 @ 1:22pm CST
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Posted by ScottyP on January 15th, 2020 @ 5:18pm CST
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2020 @ 5:58pm CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 15th, 2020 @ 9:00pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 15th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CST
In this line?Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
Posted by Deadput on January 15th, 2020 @ 11:41pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:In this line?Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 16th, 2020 @ 12:49am CST
Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In this line?Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?
Me thinks you're confusing some releases. Cyberverse has no toys for Ratbat or Rumble, however, Siege does.
Posted by Deadput on January 16th, 2020 @ 1:06am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In this line?Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?
Me thinks you're confusing some releases. Cyberverse has no toys for Ratbat or Rumble, however, Siege does.
I think your confusing my sarcasm for a legitimate question.
Posted by no-one on January 16th, 2020 @ 9:01am CST
I read Cobbler and now I'm hungry. Not a bad option to fill that overpriced Lugnut sized hole on shelves.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Superbly tempted on Clobber
Posted by LE0KING on January 17th, 2020 @ 8:48pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2020 @ 9:34pm CST
LE0KING wrote:I picked up Clobber, and she's totally worth it. Good articulation fun transformation, and the gimmick is totally ignoreable if you don't like it.
Sounds great man, thanks for letting us know! I am really intrigued by the fun transformation you describe.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 18th, 2020 @ 11:49pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 21st, 2020 @ 6:06pm CST
Very good Bumblebee
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 22nd, 2020 @ 6:25pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 22nd, 2020 @ 11:50pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 23rd, 2020 @ 11:18am CST
The user also spotted Ultra Class Clobber on the shelf next to Prime! She features the same gimmick as Optimus. Check out the image below!
This is what the twitter user had to say about the sighting:
@Waspshot23 wrote:Sad to report Clobber is tiny but that brick Optimus? Weighs a ton. Could club someone with it.
It's hard to tell which store this sighting was made at.
Will you be hunting either of these down? Do you want a Clobber to go with your Lugnut? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by TulioDude on January 23rd, 2020 @ 11:52am CST
Day 23 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece toy news.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 23rd, 2020 @ 5:52pm CST
This figure is OK. not fantastic, but still good. His joints are a smidge loose, and he feels a bit thin compared to how I would like him to be, but he can pose pretty good, the tank mode is enjoyable, and the transformation is interesting, if a bit of a pain with the legs
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 24th, 2020 @ 3:37pm CST
https://www.thetoyshop.com/action-toys- ... 4603_shock
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 6:49pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2020 @ 6:59pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:48pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:How does he compare to the Warrior, which was a very decent figure?
Didn't get it. This is my only Cyberverse shockwave figure
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:48pm CST
For one thing, it is super cool to have another female Con bruiser. 2 it is great to have gotten a toy of a minor character in this line. 3 she is pretty good figure by herself. I wish her head could move a little, but the arms and legs can move so she still poses pretty well! The armor gimmick is kinda cool and doesn't inhibit her really at all, so it's a nice bonus.
She is good, worth the price point, and worth a pickup if you can get her. It also makes me excited for the Rack n' Ruin in this size!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:41pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2020 @ 8:55pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:How does he compare to the Warrior, which was a very decent figure?
Regarding articulation and paint job he is leagues beyond the Warrior. And it adds quite a bit of complexity in comparison as well. For instance, the warrior had 0 change for his hands turning into spider tank feet while with the deluxe you open up panels to store away the hands and replace them with actual feet making the parts look different in both modes. And it adds the mandibles to the transformation making the front of the tank different than just the robot chest flipped up.