Wave 2 and 3 of Transformers Power of the Primes Listed in Toys'R'Us Database

Nova Star is Firestar due to trademark

bodrock wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Courtesy of some anon on 4chan, apparently Volcanicus looks a LOT better transformed like this:

I like it!

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Doesn't mean I'll buy Grimlock, but I see an improvement with this transformation.

Still no sign of the Prime Masters at Target or even TRU online. Bought the TR Arcee pack out of pure impulse, however, since I was at their website. And I really wanna see how she looks on Misfire's transtector.

I like seeing all the creativity going into fixing this combiner. I’ve been excited about getting the dinobots for awhile. Hasnro got my hopes up, but when I saw Grimlock it became clear that the ivory tower toy makers at hasbro dont actually play with toys. Nor do they understand the concept of building bots of the future while honoring the past. (See Abrams Star Trek for an example) I remember when the protype was revealed at Hascon. The designer had such a look of pride on his face. I hope he can someday redeem himself.

Also, why the skimping on dinobot weapons? Grimlock needs a desire and double barrel blaster!!!

Wow, autocorrect!!!

Grimlock needs a sword and double barrel blaster!

With primal coming out in wave 3, is this going to make him as hard to find as sky Shadow and overlord?

Va'al wrote:A regular source for this type of information, and so far never proven wrong with actual releases, TFW2005 user Mr Chaos was able to acquire information about the upcoming waves 2 and 3 for the Hasbro Transformers Power of the Primes line, for all size classes, from Legend to Leader. We have seen plenty of confirmation for several of these, as you can see in our coverage so far, but this gives us a better idea of what to expect when, and who will be 'partnered' with whom!

Prime Masters:
Wave 2
Landmine- E1116, 63050964886
Catilla- E1115, 63050964887

Wave 3
Octopunch- E1119, 63050970118
Bludgeon- E1117, 63050970119
Bomb Burst- E1118, 63050970120


Legends:
Wave 2
Tailgate- E1158, 63050969525
Duocon Battle- E1157, 63050969526
Duocon Speedt (name cuts off in directory)- E1158 (yes, listed as same as Tailgate), 63050969527

Wave 3
Outback: E1161, 63050970017
Cindersaur- E1160, 63050970018


Deluxes:
Wave 2
Sludge- 63050965922
Snarl- 63050965923
Darkwing- 63050965924
Rippersnapper- 63050965925
Moonracer- 63050965927

Wave 3
Cuttroat- 63050970020
Terrorcon Blot- 63050970021
Sinnertwin- 63050970121

Wave 4?
Novastar- 63050972421

Voyagers:
Wave 2
Elita- E1139, 63050964880

Wave 3
Inferno- E1145, 63050969904

Leaders:
Wave 3
Primal: E0904, 63050970009

One thing of note: Rodimus Unicronus is listed as, in the directory TBD. Just an interesting fact.

Wasn't ALCHEMIST PRIME with Submarauder already confirmed as a wave 2 Prime Master, and not Catilla?
And there appears to be no listing of the Wave 2 Voyager Hungrrr.

ThunderThruster wrote:Wasn't ALCHEMIST PRIME with Submarauder already confirmed as a wave 2 Prime Master, and not Catilla?

Could be an error. A different computer listing referred to Vector Prime/Metalhawk as Finback.

Deluxes:
Wave 2
Sludge- 63050965922
Snarl- 63050965923
Darkwing- 63050965924
Rippersnapper- 63050965925
Moonracer- 63050965927

Wave 3
Cuttroat- 63050970020
Terrorcon Blot- 63050970021
Sinnertwin- 63050970121

Seriously Hasbro. Would you stop it with the 5 deluxe wave followed by a 3 deluxe wave! Just go 4 and 4, so nobody gets short packed/over packed and we don't have to suffer even more revision waves down the line.

ChErikS wrote:Finally there is his combiner mode. It is actually surprisingly stable, though rather convoluted to arrive to. He is sporting his classic Starscream crown. Also his instructions only refer to this as his super robot mode, doesn't seem to have its own name and uses the deluxe wave one bots as his limbs.

C'mon Hasbro...You gotta give your Combiners a name

I think you just did!

coombiners

LOL fixed. I guess we really know the reason now Starscream wears that Crown.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Deluxes:
Wave 2
Sludge- 63050965922
Snarl- 63050965923
Darkwing- 63050965924
Rippersnapper- 63050965925
Moonracer- 63050965927

Wave 3
Cuttroat- 63050970020
Terrorcon Blot- 63050970021
Sinnertwin- 63050970121

Seriously Hasbro. Would you stop it with the 5 deluxe wave followed by a 3 deluxe wave! Just go 4 and 4, so nobody gets short packed/over packed and we don't have to suffer even more revision waves down the line.

Hasbro works in stupid mysterious ways.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Deluxes:
Wave 2
Sludge- 63050965922
Snarl- 63050965923
Darkwing- 63050965924
Rippersnapper- 63050965925
Moonracer- 63050965927

Wave 3
Cuttroat- 63050970020
Terrorcon Blot- 63050970021
Sinnertwin- 63050970121

Seriously Hasbro. Would you stop it with the 5 deluxe wave followed by a 3 deluxe wave! Just go 4 and 4, so nobody gets short packed/over packed and we don't have to suffer even more revision waves down the line.

Yeah, why not move Rippersnapper to be with his fellow Terrorcons

o.supreme wrote:

ChErikS wrote:Finally there is his combiner mode. It is actually surprisingly stable, though rather convoluted to arrive to. He is sporting his classic Starscream crown. Also his instructions only refer to this as his super robot mode, doesn't seem to have its own name and uses the deluxe wave one bots as his limbs.

C'mon Hasbro...You gotta give your Coombiners a name

If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.


Name: Starscream Maximus
Function: Chosen Champion of Cybertron
Motto: "Join me!"
Bio: Harnessing the combining abilities of Nexus Prime is a fast path to power, but for a lifelong conniver like Starscream, the idea of having a bunch of other bots inside your head is unappealing. Fortunately for Starscream, Liege Maximo knows the secret to the mental firewalls Galvatronus used to dominate others during the Combiner Wars.

Name: Nemesis Superion
Function: Emissary of Chaos
Motto: "Treachery has made me stronger!"
Bio: That time traveling Predacon had been more difficult to possess than the simple Sweeps in Galvatron's army, so Starscream's Ghost had no doubt taking control of an Autobot leader would be a challenge. With the help of Swindle and the Combaticons, Starscream's Ghost leapt into Silverbolt just as the Aerial bots were merging their programming to form Superion. The Aerialbots aborted the combination, but too late - reformatting Silverbolt from the inside out, Decepticon Air Commander Starscream was reborn, and left enough of his toxic personality in each of the Aerialbots to force a combination into Nemesis Superion.

Double post. Sorry.

I like the dossiers!

I checked the UPCs out at Walmart via Brickseek, and they're coming up....I wish they'd get some PotP in already.

Somehow... i just wish one of the Female Autobots have the BlastOff/Strafe mold.

Caelus wrote:If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

I admire your creativity. It's not that I cant come up with fan fiction, its just that, its not official if I do. I can justify head canon ideas between & much easier . I often will use the names of the latter if the formers' are not to my liking.

Albatross250 wrote:Are we getting a Female Autobot Combiner?

It's been my hope since the leaks first came out. We currently have 60% of a female combiner confirmed, just like we have 60% of a Starscream Combiner. I'm hoping comes through, even if doesn't.

bodrock wrote:I like the dossiers!

I checked the UPCs out at Walmart via Brickseek, and they're coming up....

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I wish they'd get some PotP in already.

Have we seen this stock photo of Moonracer yet?
She's got one hell of a backpack but other than that she looks really good.

Now that we mentioned a Fembot Combiner in this line, anyone now has an interest in getting Victorion or Megaempress?

Quantum Surge wrote:Now that we mentioned a Fembot Combiner in this line, anyone now has an interest in getting Victorion or Megaempress?

I already have them both. But having one based on characters from the original series and not "Fan Made" would definitely be more desirable IMHO.

steals_your_goats wrote:

bodrock wrote:I like the dossiers!

I checked the UPCs out at Walmart via Brickseek, and they're coming up....

IMG_8953.PNG

I wish they'd get some PotP in already.

Have we seen this stock photo of Moonracer yet?
She's got one hell of a backpack but other than that she looks really good.

Well you can balance out the backpack by using the hand/armor as a pregnant belly. Actually, you can do that, and put a prime master in there as the baby. [sigh] I have 4 daughters, I know this will become a reality for me at some point...

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

bodrock wrote:I like the dossiers!

I checked the UPCs out at Walmart via Brickseek, and they're coming up....

IMG_8953.PNG

I wish they'd get some PotP in already.

Have we seen this stock photo of Moonracer yet?
She's got one hell of a backpack but other than that she looks really good.

Well you can balance out the backpack by using the hand/armor as a pregnant belly. Actually, you can do that, and put a prime master in there as the baby. [sigh] I have 4 daughters, I know this will become a reality for me at some point...

Hey,my wife might make me buy 2 so she can have one at work! Awesome!

kurthy wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

bodrock wrote:I like the dossiers!

I checked the UPCs out at Walmart via Brickseek, and they're coming up....

IMG_8953.PNG

I wish they'd get some PotP in already.

Have we seen this stock photo of Moonracer yet?
She's got one hell of a backpack but other than that she looks really good.

Well you can balance out the backpack by using the hand/armor as a pregnant belly. Actually, you can do that, and put a prime master in there as the baby. [sigh] I have 4 daughters, I know this will become a reality for me at some point...

Hey,my wife might make me buy 2 so she can have one at work! Awesome!

I hadn't seen the stock photo yet, so it's great to see what her face sculpt is like! Looks fantastic.

And her backpack is definitely big, but I like the rest. I have Victorion (very cool) and would've loved the Takara Con variant....but I'd also prefer to see more G1 femmebots to combine with Elita-1.

Yeah, I'm banking on a five-member combiner team for the femmebots ... or I will be very, very disappointed. (Also, same for a nice Takara release of the same.)

It is very odd that we don't have any official name for the intended combiners using Starscream as core or Elita One. Come on Hasbro. Get our collective imaginations going here! It's bad enough we don't get a full bio or tech-spec anymore... the LEAST we could ask for is a name! (ha)

gothsaurus wrote:It is very odd that we don't have any official name for the intended combiners using Starscream as core or Elita One. Come on Hasbro. Get our collective imaginations going here! It's bad enough we don't get a full bio or tech-spec anymore... the LEAST we could ask for is a name! (ha)

Starscream is a spare torso like CW Cyclonus it looks like, so Hasbro may not have bothered considering a name for him. I'm going with King Starscream because of the crown

Elita-1 however... If PotP goes past 4 waves, we may get two more femmebots, but the Combiner art shows Jazz and Sludge as part of the combo.

Yeah, the CW instructions have always shown a rando combination of whatever bots were in the wave. But here's hoping to heaven they actually have a plan.

Only one Deluxe has been leaked for wave 4. We could get one or two more new ones for that wave, and if we get a 5th/6th wave, that could be plenty enough to finish new limbs for Starscream and Elita-1. Inferno however...? Getting 3 more deluxes other than Jazz, and separated so far from the others, does raise a lot of questions. Plus releasing him solely seems if anything Jazz may be an extra limb, and Inferno may be the extra Torso of this series, but I truly hope not.

o.supreme wrote:Only one Deluxe has been leaked for wave 4. We could get one or two more new ones for that wave, and if we get a 5th/6th wave, that could be plenty enough to finish new limbs for Starscream and Elita-1. Inferno however...? Getting 3 more deluxes other than Jazz, and separated so far from the others, does raise a lot of questions. Plus releasing him solely seems if anything Jazz may be an extra limb, and Inferno may be the extra Torso of this series, but I truly hope not.

The leaked Wave 4 showed nothing else but repacks outside of Novastar.

Its a damn shame that beside the Dinobots and Terrocon that, from the looks of it, they're just randomly throwing around spare torsos and limbs. This may be neat for those with an already extensive CW collection but I was kinda hoping we'd see at least one more complete combiner set.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, the CW instructions have always shown a rando combination of whatever bots were in the wave. But here's hoping to heaven they actually have a plan.

Actually, not quite for CW.
The only 2 misplaced team members were Drag Strip and Air Raid, so it doesn't really set much of a precednt for PotP. If I remember correctly Superion was shown with Dragstrip, but Menasor was shown complete since Dragstrip was already out. Every other limb bot was released with their combiner torso and shown complete. The non-combiner, or extra torsos usually had a mis-mash of figures that were released to that point, but not necessarily the current wave. Red Prime had the wave 1 limbs because he was also in wave 1 and nothing else was released yet, but I thought Cyclonus and Scattorshot had a mix of previous waves. They did however at least have combiner names (Ultra Prime, Galvatronus and Betatron).

^ nah, there was a lot of mish-mash with CW instructions, based mostly on when something came out. Deluxe Groove was said to be part of Sky Reign on his instructions due to being a late May madness release. That's why I stick with official combinations, and make up my own for the rest. Fortunately when combining all Con and Club exclusives, there are enough extra limbs to make totally unique Combiners for all the Torso's from CW & UW.

As for total conjecture on what they could do to round out an Inferno/Jazz combiner... they haven't released Ratchet to the USA mainstream audience. They could also easily squeeze out a Jazz repaint (or two) for Stepper and/or Ricochet (like the dark red/white Botcon figure).

Besides that We are still missing a Sideswipe toy from G1 'season one'. Hoping they'll get around to that (with Red Alert and maybe eventual G2 repaint for a store exclusive somewhere. Solid repaint potential there, too.).... all coming together in a nice assortment of red, white, and black limbs. Would be a nice looking bot assembled.

Hoping they realize we know when they leave someone out of the lineup.

o.supreme wrote:^ nah, there was a lot of mish-mash with CW instructions, based mostly on when something came out. Deluxe Groove was said to be part of Sky Reign on his instructions due to being a late May madness release. That's why I stick with official combinations, and make up my own for the rest. Fortunately when combining all Con and Club exclusives, there are enough extra limbs to make totally unique Combiners for all the Torso's from CW & UW.

Man if only I had gotten back into collecting 1-2 years before I did, I'd have wasted so much money building combiner armies...

Oh. Regarding Starscream, I'd love to see Skywarp and TC limbs...

Heck, I'd PREFER to see a couple of store three packs with ALL the original three (including a gratuitous Starscream so we can have the trio in same size) and another with Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet... which it seems like they have the pre-tooling for looking at the mold changes to Dreadw-guy.

Skritz wrote:

o.supreme wrote:^ nah, there was a lot of mish-mash with CW instructions, based mostly on when something came out. Deluxe Groove was said to be part of Sky Reign on his instructions due to being a late May madness release. That's why I stick with official combinations, and make up my own for the rest. Fortunately when combining all Con and Club exclusives, there are enough extra limbs to make totally unique Combiners for all the Torso's from CW & UW.

Man if only I had gotten back into collecting 1-2 years before I did, I'd have wasted so much money building combiner armies...

Well it all has to be taken in perspective. Most people here know I'm a Combiner fanatic. I've always been fascinated with the idea, and its my absolutely favorite thing about the entire Transformers mythology. Most people like the idea ok, but get burned out seeing all the reuse etc...

I jumped in a little late myself. Seeing Superion & Menasor revealed at BC 2014 was "neat", but I figured they'd never go full blown. I figured *maybe* like TF Energon, there'd be around 4 combiners, and that's it...but went above and beyond, and sealed the deal with their own unique variants on some characters. I also took a gamble trusting the word of a couple fine folks here that believed the system used to create the combiners would return at some point in the future to represent characters we never got in CW. It seems, the future has arrived


Now I will say, the Club and Con exclusives can brake your wallet....However, if you are patient, you can see some people start to unload their CW (and even in some cases UW) loose collections' on eBay, it's a fairly inexpensive way to build a Combiner Army.

Really good points here O.Supreme

And I'm right along with you. I've been having a blast growing my own combiner collection... and really had my imagination piqued at the notion of new mixes like Galvatronus and the other guys (Ultra Prime, Scattershot V1, Grand Galvatron...).

Just recently caught wind of Botcon's "Modulus" and other old-school G1 random mix-and-match guys like Comperian, Abomenaticus, Scramble 7, and Destron/Cybertron Super Scramble. While these old ones are a bit shrug-worthy, it still can be a fun afternoon of swapping limbs... since some are already possible with CW... and the remaining ones unlocked by the end of the year when the new Abominus is released.

Oh. I also forgot Bluestreak hasn't seen a main line release either. I'd still love a non-Botcon-diaclone version.

Don't make me paint these myself, Hasbro. That's just sad! Get some deals going with BBTS, Walgreens, Target and crank these out!!

At the very least I'm tempted to get the remaining 'G2' Combiner sets when it come to CW stock once I can afford them, as I know these guys aren't anywhere as popular as the G1 deco, meaning they can still be found.

Plus I need two more limbs to attach to 'Nova Prime' (aka Battle Core Optimus), as I intended to assign Dreadwind and Darkwing to him once I've got them. Unfortunately, it seem the other spare limbs in PotP are all Autobots.

All I got are Onslaught and Motormaster *sob* That leaves me with the personal obligation to get Hun-Gurrr, and with him the Terrorcons, but the Stunticons and Combaticons are out of reach for now. O well, that's what you get for being scared of possible QC problems.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All I got are Onslaught and Motormaster *sob* That leaves me with the personal obligation to get Hun-Gurrr, and with him the Terrorcons, but the Stunticons and Combaticons are out of reach for now. O well, that's what you get for being scared of possible QC problems.

IIrc, Combaticons can still be bought on BBTS.

I wish they had held off on the datsuns until this line, so they could’ve been retooled from Jazz

exactly the same thought, ebo716.

ebo716 wrote:I wish they had held off on the datsuns until this line, so they could’ve been retooled from Jazz

Datsuns?

What I have:
UW 1-10 (only missing #11 Baldigus, will get him soon)

CW: Victorion, Computron, Liokaiser, and Predacus giftsets ( Computron is *my* Betatron while UW-08 is my official Computron ) I also have the TFCC 4.0 and 5.0 sets that make up Thunder Mayhem & Wreckage

Self made Combiners from extra Torsos & Limbs

"Optimus Maximus" Composed of Battle Core Optimus Prime, Alpha Bravo, Rook, Smokescreen, and SG Starscream

"Grand Scourge" Composed of Grand Scourge, Offroad, CW Blastoff, CW Vortex, and BC2016 Terrorsaur

"Magnaboss"Composed of CW Silverbolt, CW Ironhide, CW Prowl (with special stickers) BC 2016 Tigatron & Unit-3

That gives me an army of 20.

Now...as for Modulus that is quite problematic, but in my "dream" scenario it would require me to:

1. Obtain a single release CW Scattorshot (fairly easy)
2. Replace the Rook I have on Op Max with Marvel Comics Ratchet
3. Replace the SG Starscream I have on Op Max with G2 Ratchet
4. Obtain Medix
5. Obtain SG Ratchet and convince him to switch sides to be a Hero (since my Original Ratchet is dedicated to Lynx Master)...

If I were to ever get Modulus (not holding my breath...) Along with the 3 G2 sets that gives me a total Army of 24 unique Combiners (12 good and 12 bad)...

Skritz wrote:

ebo716 wrote:I wish they had held off on the datsuns until this line, so they could’ve been retooled from Jazz

Datsuns?

Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen are called the Datsun triplets, after their G1 vehicle mode, the Datsun Z by Nissan. It's known in Japan as the Fairlady Z.

I kind of wish Pounce, Wingspan, Fastlane, and Cloudraker had been made as CW deluxes, and released in both Autobot and Decepticon colors, as troop-builder combiner limbs.

gothsaurus wrote:Oh. Regarding Starscream, I'd love to see Skywarp and TC limbs...

I'd prefer soundwave, Astrotrain, Dirge and Thrust, for this guy

GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Oh. Regarding Starscream, I'd love to see Skywarp and TC limbs...

I'd prefer soundwave, Astrotrain, Dirge and Thrust, for this guy

I thought that comic was on par with Beast Within as 'didn't happen'!

Caelus — would have been awesome. nice thought.

O. Supreme — excellent collection, man! I like how you've fleshed out those extra torsos, too. The TFCC and Botcon combiners are a real cherry on top! Bravo.

Funny... the way Hasbro released extras kinda obliges each of us to concoct our own custom teams.

I'm still a bit stumped on pairing limbs with my own Grand Scourge... and thinking of doing my own custom-painted Magnaboss torso/limbs as well as ones for Modulus, since the stickers seem to be quite elusive. I wish they class had been a wee bit more kind to the masses. Sell some stickers on the club store or such... or through Toyhax/Reprolabels.

Skritz wrote:

GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Oh. Regarding Starscream, I'd love to see Skywarp and TC limbs...

I'd prefer soundwave, Astrotrain, Dirge and Thrust, for this guy

I thought that comic was on par with Beast Within as 'didn't happen'!

and we still got a dinobot combiner years later, lets be honest we can almost see some inspiration on the voyager screamer from this guy

HA! Thanks for that. Until an official name comes out... I can at least call this new dude Megascream.